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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    Paul Joseph Watson | May 3, 2005

    Infowars | May 4, 2005
    By Alex Jones

    Nearly four years after the tragic events of September 11th, the 9/11 Truth Movement has expanded from a small group skeptics and activists into a real political force.

    Over time several individuals have sought to place themselves at the center of this unprecedented citizen campaign by declaring themselves to be its 'founders.'

    Whether their motivation is fueled by malevolence or by a genuine desire to steer people toward the truth, their behavior is dangerous to the ultimate success of the movement.

    Within a popular front such as this, the title of "founder" carries with it enormous authority to many people. Those who claim to have founded this movement are also claiming the moral authority to define what others should investigate, what they should focus their efforts on, and what they should believe.

    Shouting at the top of my lungs, I came forward months in advance of September 11th, trying to warn the country of the sinister events on the horizon, and of the impending crime that powerful, elite members of the federal government were going to perpetrate on the American people under the guise of foreign terrorism.

    Shortly after the attacks, I released the very first 9/11 film to expose the government connections to the attack. Yet, despite being first to champion the truth about 9/11, I do not seek the title of 'founder,'

    I only seek to further warn others in this crusade to beware of those who would attempt to limit and control the scope of our investigations, who would tell us what we ought to believe and who would stand in the the way of our mission to expose deceit and reveal the truth.



    Four years ago in May 2001, I watched a British Channel 4 documentary about Alex Jones' infiltration into Bohemian Grove. At first glance the show seemed to be a hit piece aimed at discrediting Alex and his work. But I wanted to make sure so I visited Alex's website and started listening to his radio show.

    Alex was gripped with anguish and apprehension. He was talking about how the government were about to carry out an act of terrorism to bolster the construction of a police state and a new world order.

    Alex dubbed his campaign 'Expose the Government Terrorists' and urged his listeners to call the White House and tell them to call off the operation.

    He gave out White House switchboard numbers on his radio and television show on a daily basis.

    On his television show Alex elaborated on the fact that the Globalists were about to use their asset Osama bin Laden to attack New York. Alex is not psychic. He did not have a crystal ball. He was able to make the call because he could see the conditioning in the media. Bin laden is a threat, bin Laden will attack. When bin Laden attacks, give up your rights.

    This was the incessantly replayed mantra from the controlled media.

    Click here for a clip from Alex's TV show, taped on July 25th 2001.

    I watched all this develop before I even spoke to Alex Jones or started my own website.

    Alex predicted the 9/11 attack BEFORE it happened.

    On the day of the attack Alex called in to the Derry Brown show which was being broadcast on GCN before Alex's own show came on air.

    Alex was adamant that the government were behind the attack. They had been conditioning the public before the attack and they had the most to gain from carrying out the attack.

    While others were squabbling over issues of prior knowledge, Alex was firm in pointing the finger directly at the criminals inside the Military-Industrial Complex for being intimately involved in 9/11.

    The evidence is now overwhelming and clear that this is exactly what happened.

    In the days and weeks following 9/11, Alex was the first to draw attention to the crucial testimony of people like David Shippers and Greg Palast, respectable figures blowing the whistle on government connections and protection of the terrorists.

    Greg Palast thanked Alex for being the only radio host to pay attention to W199I, a leaked document concerning FBI protected of groups linked to Al-Qaeda.

    In mid to late 2004 several prominent self-proclaimed 9/11 ringleaders started talking about the fact that wargames were used as a cover for the operational execution of the 9/11 attack. Alex was talking about this two years beforehand in his film, Masters of Terror and again in an April 2004 television show, a clip of which can be viewed here .

    I point out these examples not to lionize Alex Jones as some kind of messiah but in response to the claims of many researchers that they are the 'grandfather' of the 9/11 truth movement or words to that effect.

    It is disturbing to note that in many instances these same researchers have been seen to push obvious frauds like the peak oil theory.

    At least three years ago Alex Jones warned people that the establishment would allow the truth about 9/11 to get out simply because it was too big a monster to hide.

    Alex pointed out however that the establishment would spin the issue to make people believe that the evil right-wing American imperialists were behind the terrorism and so the only solution would be a left-wing world government to counter them. So you would be forced to accept a false choice between a right-wing world government and a left-wing world government.

    Many prominent 9/11 researchers, either unwittingly or deliberately, have promulgated this dangerous notion, stating for example that we need a 'global democracy' to defeat the evil right-wing Neo-Cons.

    The fact that these individuals have been labelled the 'godfathers of the 9/11 movement' is therefore a worrying development. This has given them the credibility required to create a '9/11 orthodoxy' and marginalizes anyone who discusses 9/11 issues that THEY feel shouldn't be circulated.

    We vehemently disagree with and are highly suspicious of people who claim to be the bellwether 9/11' authority figures,' especially when people like Alex Jones and others were way ahead of the curve on 9/11.

    The examples presented in this article underscore our conviction on this matter.
    pisshead Reviewed by pisshead on . The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement Paul Joseph Watson | May 3, 2005 Infowars | May 4, 2005 By Alex Jones Nearly four years after the tragic events of September 11th, the 9/11 Truth Movement has expanded from a small group skeptics and activists into a real political force. Over time several individuals have sought to place themselves at the center of this unprecedented citizen campaign by declaring themselves to be its 'founders.' Rating: 5

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    and u call yourself a republican? Sound more like a dem, or an anti republican to me!

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    Here's what I think on 9/11. Did they know something Might happen. Probably. In New York probably. In New York City? Maybe. But on the When and How this attack might take place they probably had no clue. And what should they have done. Evacuate the entire city of New York. The events that happened were tragic, but I feel the goverment had no clue on how and when these things were going to take place.

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    if anyone knew it was coming who do you think it was???i will lay it out for you.

    -in february 1993,the world trade center was bombed by muslim fanatics,killing 5 people,wounding hundreds.

    clinton did nothing.

    october 1993,eighteen american troops were killed in a savage firefight in somalia.the corpse of one american was dragged through the streets of mogadishu as the somalin hordes cheered.

    clinton responded by ordering our troops home.bin laden later told abc news"the youth realized the american soldier is a paper tiger and runs from battle after a few blows."

    november 1995,5 americans killed and thiety wounded by a car bomb in saudi arabia set by muslim fanatics.

    clinton did nothing.

    june 1996 a U.S. Air Forse base in saudi arabia was bombed by fanatics.

    clinton did nothing.

    months later,saddam attacked the kurdish city of erbil.clinton lobbed some bombs into iraq,HUNDREDS of miles from saddams forces.

    november 1997,iraq refuced to allow un weapons inspectors to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a u2 spy plane.

    clinton did nothing.

    february 1998,clinton threatened to bomb iraq,but called it off because the un said no.

    august 7,1998,U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by al queda.

    clinton did nothing.

    august 20,monica lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before a grand jury.

    clinton responded by bombing afghanistan and sudan,severely damaging a aspirin factory.

    december 16,the house of representatives prepared to impeach clinton the next day.

    clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against iraq.

    october 2000,our warship the USS COLE was attacked by al queda.

    CLINTON DID NOTHING.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    so what did u want him to do, go bomb every single fucking country? Clinton was actually smart, and didnt jump to a conclusion and bomb who he THOUGHT had done it. If it was GW in that same situation, there would be nothing left of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran. All those countries would retaliate and there would be nothing left of America. Clinton actually cared about international support for America, so thus, he didnt just GUESS, he wanted to know, unlike GW who had no fucking clue what he was doing, and obviously still doesnt. Also, the economy wasnt in a HUGE shit hole during the Clinton presidency, GW was left with the biggest surplus in history, and now were in the biggest deficit in history. Al queda is distributed throughout the whole fucking world, should we just bomb the whole world because of some crazy ass mother fuckers? Al queda knows this, but unfortunately, you dont!

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    Quote Originally Posted by sensiskunk
    so what did u want him to do, go bomb every single fucking country? Clinton was actually smart, and didnt jump to a conclusion and bomb who he THOUGHT had done it. If it was GW in that same situation, there would be nothing left of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran. All those countries would retaliate and there would be nothing left of America. Clinton actually cared about international support for America, so thus, he didnt just GUESS, he wanted to know, unlike GW who had no fucking clue what he was doing, and obviously still doesnt. Also, the economy wasnt in a HUGE shit hole during the Clinton presidency, GW was left with the biggest surplus in history, and now were in the biggest deficit in history. Al queda is distributed throughout the whole fucking world, should we just bomb the whole world because of some crazy ass mother fuckers? Al queda knows this, but unfortunately, you dont!
    WIERD.,THE RECESSION STARTED UNDER CLINTON?

    with the HUGE victories in the middle east and eastern europe toward democracy i believe you might be the only one on the planet in the know who isnt wondering,"was bush right all along?"

    learn your politics kiddo
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    at least he could have stood up for our country.clinton was a scum bag who couldnt help but steal 175,000$$ worth of white house furniture when he left.what a joke.

    please run hillary in '08,please.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    Your a funny guy! Bush is making millions off of us, and u bitch about 175K, who gives a fuck! Clinton was by far a 10X better president than Bush, no matter what right wing propaganda you try and say, its common sense bro. Every leader in history has a downfall, but Bush, in my opinion, is one of the worst.

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    clinton!LOL!CAN YOU SAY IMPEACHMENT?that dumb shit will always be remembered for lying before congress,on national television, and sitting on his ass.what a legacy that is.LOL.

    i know that isnt alot of money,but they STOLE it and then had to return it when they got popped.scum.the perfect example of the democrat party is clinton.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    The Real Origins Of The 9/11 Truth Movement

    the new york post ran real article about 2 years ago titled " The 25 most evil people of the millennium"

    only hitler edgedout clinton by 39 votes.he handily beat STALIN by 20 votes,

    sure,clinton is a real legend.keep telling yourself that.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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