cabbinet grow

hey so i just planted 10 seeds in 10 diff cups under 1 26w CFL light in a cabinet just under my tv. the room in there is small. about 2 1/2 feet tall and2 feet wide by 3 feet deep. i dont intend on keeping all the plants in there, but just rather be safe then sorry. i dont have any room for a fan so that is why im only useing one 26w cfl, just so it does not get to hot in there. im useing organic rich soil with 10-12-10 plant food. some are starting to sprout. i also i have a problem with bugs. right now i have a couple little flies in there that look like fruit flies, there TINY, black, and have white wings. anyone no how to get get them out? some pics below
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the last pics of the flies im haveing problems with, there very small and hard to see with my camera. any comments or ideas or info on indoor cabinet would be very helpful. thanks

glennon

first, you'll need something taller for those plants. second, you'll need atleast 100w of CFL during veg. third, lose the foil in your grow box.

since bugs are n issue, you can either clean your house, or give the weed more isolation from surrounding environment.

Altho your effort is valiant, it will likely lead to disappointment, if you do not do some reading, and get the right tools for the job.

Nutes: seedlings don't need nutes, and are easily 'nute-burned', especially with a 10-12-10. (Schultz...?) Do some research, get the correct nutes.

Flies: Did you start the cups outdoors, then bring them in, or was your soil sitting outside for a while? Get some yellow no-pest strips.

Soil: What kind are you using?

Lights: One CFL light will not work. Half a dozen might. It's more important to have adequate light, and vent the heat out, than to worry about heat, and kill your plants due to insufficient light.

Cabinet: lol. Suffice it to say it's a tad small for anything other than seedlings. No closet available?

There are some minor gaps with your knowledge-base. Reading for hours on-end, and figuring-out how to rectify your growroom conditions are going to be important factors in your sucess or failure. All the info you need is on this site, but if you have more questions you can't find the answers to, give a holler.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

Ok since no one really responded to your questions directly and just dictated what should be done instead I will.

The flies - Well from my experience after just transplanting into some (non fox farms) organic soil. yeah yeah I'm cheap I know. The organic stuff seems to attract them. I never had that problem with my Premium perlite potting mix. (W/E it was). But now I do.

Nutes - Don't use them yet, wait until they develop at least 4-5 nodes ( pair of branches) Then it'll be safe to use them on your lil babies.

CFL - The CFL is fine for seeding. ( Did you try to germinate? most swear by the paper towel trick, I just stuck mine in a glass of water 3-4 at a time and let it sit 1-2 nights and waited for a white tail to pop out. about 80% worked but I call that good for bagseed.)

Back to the light. I'd say your fine with it, I sprouted under my kitchen sink fluor tube. It was a 12" 30 watt I believe. Took awhile but it worked, so no reason why your 26w CFL won't do better in a closed space.( Might help to also to put your CFL on it's side, I've read it uses the light more efficiently)

Fan - Don't worry about a fan right now, it'll help after they sprout, but you might have some stagnant air in the cups if the soil line is low, which with the organic could make your pest problem worse.(Where the fan might help, move stagnant air and disrupts the bugs ability to fly.)

Either way don't let people tell you, it's not possible. I know mine are now over a foot tall after just experimenting in crappy conditions and upgrading as I went along and got more serious. I'll post any more info that might help as it comes.

I look forward to your progress.

Good Luck my friend.

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Originally Posted by Dyranty

Ok since no one really responded to your questions directly and just dictated what should be done instead I will.

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I beg your pardon...:wtf: Gee...I was just wandering around looking to offer help, and BAM...my moron-meter red-lined. You can't say you didn't read the responses... you paragraphed it almost exactly like my responses.

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Originally Posted by Dyranty

The flies - Well from my experience after just transplanting into some (non fox farms) organic soil. yeah yeah I'm cheap I know. The organic stuff seems to attract them. I never had that problem with my Premium perlite potting mix. (W/E it was). But now I do.

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Quite informative, thank-you for sharing. But I'm pretty sure none of us care how to attract the damn flies.

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Originally Posted by Dyranty

Nutes - Don't use them yet, wait until they develop at least 4-5 nodes ( pair of branches) Then it'll be safe to use them on your lil babies.

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Hmm...didn't I mention something about it being too early for nutes...?

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Originally Posted by Dyranty

...Back to the light. I'd say your fine with it, I sprouted under my kitchen sink fluor tube. It was a 12" 30 watt I believe. Took awhile but it worked, so no reason why your 26w CFL won't do better in a closed space.( Might help to also to put your CFL on it's side, I've read it uses the light more efficiently)

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Some of us prefer more than a half-assed approach if possible. Waiting 6 months for an insufficient harvest is likely not his goal, nor should it be, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by Dyranty

Either way don't let people tell you, it's not possible.

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??? Re-reading the entire thread, I didn't see word one about it not being possible, but that research and insight from experienced growers may pull him thru.

And I quote from my post above:

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

All the info you need is on this site, but if you have more questions you can't find the answers to, give a holler.
Good luck. :thumbsup:

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If your goal is insignificance, it appears to me like you are well on your way to the finish line.

Sorry Glennon...regardless of what others think, say, or imply, we are here to help. (but we can not do the learning for you)

Ouch did I strike a nerve or did this just turn into the rants and raves forum.

My goal was to encourage him, not to tell him his stuff sucks. Saying you need better crap doesn't exactly put money into your pocket to go get it.

Sometimes people need help to get through the rough times till they have money.

I don't understand why you have turn and attack me, I'm sorry if you're offended.
It wasn't what I was shooting for.

Yet again I'm Sorry.

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Ouch did I strike a nerve or did this just turn into the rants and raves forum.

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Intent or not, your explination sounds like bullshit to me. If all the help you can offer someone is to stroke them and tell them it's ok to be inadequate, while at the same time directly challenging and insulting those that provided sound advice...well, likely one of us is in the wrong forums.

"Ok since no one really responded to your questions directly and just dictated what should be done instead I will." You will...? When...?
Answers had already been given, and yes, he was directed to look into what he should be looking into. Who the fuck are you, as an inexperienced grower, to determine who's responses are inadequate, and who's aren't? I'm pretty sure glennon should be the judge, not you.

Planning ahead prevents some situations from becoming a disheartening 'learning experience', rather than a successful harvest.
And blowing smoke up ones ass and saying it's aromatherapy, is counter-productive.

I know mine are now over a foot tall after just experimenting in crappy conditions and upgrading as I went along and got more serious."
Gee, I'm just not into telling folks how to pull-off a crappy grow.
But I'm not sure the difference, you telling him you had to upgrade as you went along, and me saying up-front that his listed equipment was soon to be inadequate? For all we know, he has all this covered already, but then...the thread was still ongoing.

If you have a beef with me, or anything I've posted anywhere on this site, fine...we can discuss it in another thread. I have nothing against intelligent discourse. But blindly pretending you've the knowledge to step on others posts, is in bad form.

You know saying sorry should of been enough, instead of hi-jacking this thread to re-quote me a second time to tell me how screwed up I am. I don't know why you can't accept my apology.

yet again I'm sorry.

I fail to see why you can't just let this be.
Either way I won't challenge or insult you or anyone else in this thread any more.

Hell I'll even burn one for you.
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yea i'll second that.

rusty you need to take a step back dude. Sure the original post was full of newbie misconceptions, false info and no he didn't read a trillion posts before posting like it says to, but its not the end of the world.

well maybe it is... chances are the poster will never post here again do to your unwarranted outcry.

i imagine you have parallels in your life and this is a pattern for you so i guess we can just chalk it up to that....

this is not a personal attack, i'm sure you know your shit and have a larger yield than everyone on this post added together and all but seriously chill bro. i'll just be here w/ D and a fatty whenever you want to join.

piece.
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whatz good ? i live in chicago and i want to grow 2-4 plants can you let me now what i need to do.///im thinking about building a grow cabinet what size should be