Some pics of my 3 week old ice and bubbleicious

[bluntman & chronic]

Hey guys, can you give me your opinion on these?

We added nutes for the first time yesterday, the plants were at 3 weeks old but some leaves were slightly browning and some dying with crispy leaves.

They seem to have perked up a bit since yesterday since we added nutes and moved the fan to eliminate the possibility of wind burn. Do they look good otherwise?

Mylar coated room, 2ft x 5ft, 250w cfl, basic rockwool nft setup with pump running 24/7, added aqua vega a + b, ph at 6.0, temp at 90 degrees.

[bluntman & chronic]

Oh, by the way, it's not all bad. We have some plants that seem to be thriving :D

[xxxhazexxx]

they look ok cut the damagsd leaf off i grow nft have done since 92 its the best way them babys will grow so fast good luck.what part of uk u from peace:thumbsup:

[bluntman & chronic]

Cheers mate, thanks for taking a look.

We went in today to take pics before the cfl light turned on and noticed lots of droplets (of water?) hanging off each leaf. Is this just dew or is the room too humid?

Are you sure I should cut the decaying leaves off? I read somewhere on this forum that you are supposed to leave them on as it helps the plant so now i'm confused.

We are first timers from S. Wales. What about your self mate?

[Cornelius]

leave that fan in there. I think water is coming out of the leaves, because mine were doing the same thing. I think the plant is releasing extra water, but without a fan in there to circulate air the water isn't evaporating. Just a guess.

also, what nutes are you using? and in what concentration? What is your pH? Those first pics did look a bit sickly, make sure your pH is between 5.5-5.8

[socialistpete]

Are you consistantly at 90 degrees or do the temps differ when your lights are off? 90 is pretty warm I think.

[bluntman & chronic]

Hey guys,

The fan is still in the room, just on a lower setting now.

The nutes we added were aqua vega a + b and we added them at half strength as it was the first time the plants have seen nutes in 3 weeks.

The temp is now a touch lower than 90 as I didnt realise you are supposed to take the temp in the shade so I have moved my thermometer into the shadow of the nft tank. The temp does lower when lights are off but it's still fairly warm in there.

The PH has always been perfect thanks to the lovely water we get here from the mountains of the brecon beacons.

All in all we are seeing constant improvement since we added the nutes. My main concern right now is how far the light should be from the plant tops as I want to keep the plants fairly stumpy. We are using a 250w vegging cfl, any suggestions?

Also, does anyone have any opinion on whether or not to remove decaying leaves?

[socialistpete]

Take the dead leaves off.

[Scarlet Sky]

take off the dead leaves

i'd say your light needs to be +/- 12 inches.

[tomasinho]

A good way to see if the lights are too close is to put your hand on top of the plant for 20 seconds or so. If your hand feels uncomfortable - the light is too close. Easy. You can usually get cfl's very close to the plants (closer than HPS or MH) if you have a decent fan in there. Dont worry too much about the plants getting windburn - I have a 12 inch fan that sits about 3 feet away from the plants and usually its on high speed. The plants next to the fan will adjust by building a strong stem. If you want to keep the plants short just make sure to flower them when they are about 8 inches tall. You can also try LST (training) or topping but these techniques will make the plant wider - I dont know how much horizontal space you are working with. It is easier on the first grow to just flower when they are short and dont worry about training.
The goal is to get the lights as close as possible with the temps as close to 70 as possible and flower early. Peace.

[xxxhazexxx]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: hello mate yes take the dead leaf of when they are that far gone they rob energy from the plant and try and get your temps down to 76-78 thats perfect,each to they own but i dont like that food i use g,h 3part and superthrive good luck dude

[bluntman & chronic]

Thanks for your help guys, the plants are looking good now, it looks like it was the lack of nutes causing the yellowing of the leaves as you can see from the pics they are starting to look nice and healthy.

We've lowered the lights slightly and the fan is back on full pelt. By the way, we are using a metal halide 250w not a cfl like I said in one of my other posts.

Is it right that they can quadruple in size once you start flowering? I have planted four 'Ice' seeds and eight 'bubbleicious'.

[mattmao]

nice man keep posting on the ice thinking of growing it myself.but get those temps down way to high will only give you major problems in the future,being growing nft for 16 years,once you get it right you will never change you system.good luck and may the force be with you.

[tomasinho]

I have grown nirvana's bubblicious in soil before - it was my first grow actually. It turned out shitty because my temps were too high! Oh well - I hope yours turns out good! Cant wait to see how everything goes!

[bluntman & chronic]

Nirvana's Bubbleicious is exactly what we've planted. I think now the fan is back on full power we'll see that temp fall right down to 78.

The problem is, we mixed up the ice and bubbleicious so we have no idea which plants are which, lol. Is there a way to tell?

[bluntman & chronic]

Hey guys,

Here's a few pics from today. Plants looking much better now, nice and green and bushy. Tallest plant up to 6 and a half inches. Not bad considering we only added nutes for the first time 6 days ago! :)

At this rate, the veg stage will last a total of 2 weeks! That cant be good can it?

Temps steady at 78.

[tomasinho]

I am not sure about all the pics but the one on the bottom left definatly looks like bubble. The two week veg is a good thing - the power of hydro lies in the short veg time. You might want to consider flowering soon if you are trying to keep the height down (let the plant grow two or three more inches max). The plants will grow a lot taller during the first few weeks of flowering. Another good reason why you might want to flower early is that a 250watt does not have a ton of penetrating power. If the plants get too tall, your buds at the bottom will not get enough light and they will end up whispy. I hope everything goes well! Peace.

[bluntman & chronic]

Hey Guys,

Got some pics today for you to take a look at, everything seems to be going fine, the plants are growing at an amazing rate. I'll be going onto the 600w HPS in a couple of days. Tallest plant up to 9 inches now. Lucky we got a nice tall room. :)

Changed the reservoir water today and added full strength nutes. As you can see from the pics we added some mylar tape to the white reservoir cover just under the plants a few days ago to give the undersides of the leaves more light and they seem to love it.

[allkillanofilla]

they are looking good but i would trim the bottom of the plant to get the most air flow underneath also make sure your room temp is never over 81

[stinkyattic]

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March 2007.
Those plants are nothing but a puff of smoke lingering in someone's living room by now...