Let's try something...

[mrdevious]

So first off, I'm super high right now, so please excuse a potentially poor conceptualization of this idea... but I think it'll all work out... anywhoo....dotdotdot


As everybody here pretty much knows, the political forums aren't exactly the "hang out and chill" area. It seems everybody (including myself) spends their time here arguing, debating, discussing, whatever you want to call it. But there's definately an "us against them" mentallity around here.

So I thought it would be cool if instead of arguing, we share our values and see what we have in common. Not just in comon with your fellow thinkers, but with the conservatives, liberals, libertarians, fundy's, anarchists, nazi space-monky's, and so forth.

How we're going to do this:

I'll list off some of my ideological views. If you share any of the same, post that you agree with it. If you don't agree with some of the ideologies listed, just ignore it and don't say anything. After listing what you agree with, add some of your own if you feel so inclined. Definately clarify on a point you agree with if you'res varries a bit. So lets see what we have in common..

I believe in:

- THE LEGALIZATION, REGULATION, AND FAIR TAXATION OF CANNABIS.

- Medical care for all citizens, regardless of ability to pay.

- Taking serious action on the environment, the kind of efforts and spending nations usually put into wars...... but with something other than blowing shit up for once.

- The right of responsible, law-abiding citizens to own firearms.

- The legalization and regulation of all hallucinogens, in the purest sense (ie. salvia, shrooms, lsd, peyote, ayahuasca).

- A free market, with trade unions and social security.

- Free education, and massively subsidized (possibly free) secondary education since it's becoming so essential.

- Decriminalization of hard drug use, and harsh penalties for illegal production. If you commit crimes and it's deemed to be because of your hard drug use, you're forced into a detox camp for a period several months past the point of withdrawl. If you still go back to drug-related crime on a third offense, then you're facing jail time.

- Disarmament of all nuclear weapons, after an anti-nuke defense system has been perfected. I also don't believe a nation has the right to demand nuclear disarmament when they won't even partially do the same.

- Homosexuality, jackin off, sodomy, and oral sex are none of the government's or the law's damn business.

- Equality of all races, and I mean REAL equallity. No special laws for being a certain race, and no discrimination for being a certain race. If a certain group needs help out of the gutter, help them out. But the law regarding individual rights, taxation, and hiring practices should be the same.

- Majorly subsidized prescriptions for low-income people.

[iPot]

That certainly is devious. I need some time to bake that one.

[Zimzum]

Those are some good ideas you have. Only things I would tweak/add to it.


- more power put back into the hands of state government, less federal control on state matters.

- Elimination of all currency and debt, everyone scratches each others back to survive. Comparable to some forms of tribal law.

- Allow prescriptions to come from Canadian companies. Canadians are not dropping dead any faster then Americans when it comes to our medicines.



And if I did that wrong I'm sorry, and miss understood what you meant.

[Psycho4Bud]

Now THIS should be a great thread!!!

VERY strong on the defense issue....if there is any chance that our people are going to war.....they should have the best!

Line item veto for the President.

2 term limits on congress and senate

NO special interest groups allowed anywhere near the D.C. area/ Congress, Senate, President

Flat tax

Repeal of all laws binding the hands of labor unions...it's about time the C.E.O.s learn to share again.

Legalize all recreational drugs.......put 10% of that enforcement money wasted into treatment.

The arts should be a private matter and needs no endorsement $ from the fed.

Economic aid to whatever country would be eliminated. A person with a $40,000 and is currently over 3/4 of that in debt does not give money away.

The Great Wall of Mexico would be constructed and illegals would have the option of leaving or being catapolted across the wall when caught.


Well, that's a start...........:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[The Figment]

Now THIS should be a great thread!!!

VERY strong on the defense issue....if there is any chance that our people are going to war.....they should have the best!

Line item veto for the President.

2 term limits on congress and senate

NO special interest groups allowed anywhere near the D.C. area/ Congress, Senate, President

Flat tax

Repeal of all laws binding the hands of labor unions...it's about time the C.E.O.s learn to share again.

Legalize all recreational drugs.......put 10% of that enforcement money wasted into treatment.

The arts should be a private matter and needs no endorsement $ from the fed.

Economic aid to whatever country would be eliminated. A person with a $40,000 and is currently over 3/4 of that in debt does not give money away.

The Great Wall of Mexico would be constructed and illegals would have the option of leaving or being catapolted across the wall when caught.


Well, that's a start...........:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

Ya know,you and I think along the same lines!! If I remember rite you are a concertive (please correct me if I'm wrong) but you really sound like a libertarian!!!! mabey that's progress!! I concider myself a Liberaltarian.:D

[Psycho4Bud]

Oh ya, when our job is done in the middle east I'd use these troops and the knowledge gained to clean up our cities. The bloods, crypts, GS-13 would feel the boot of the red, white, and blue right up their candy asses! It's a damn shame that people in this country are extorted by punks on our own streets.

Have a good one! :s4:

[medicinal]

VERY strong on the defense issue....if there is any chance that our people are going to war.....they should have the best!

Line item veto for the President. (Definently not!)
2 term limits on congress and senate

NO special interest groups allowed anywhere near the D.C. area/ Congress, Senate, President

Flat tax ( Not) I think the rich should pay a higher percentage

Repeal of all laws binding the hands of labor unions...it's about time the C.E.O.s learn to share again.

Legalize all recreational drugs.......put 10% of that enforcement money wasted into treatment.

The arts should be a private matter and needs no endorsement $ from the fed.

Economic aid to whatever country would be eliminated. A person with a $40,000 and is currently over 3/4 of that in debt does not give money away.

The Great Wall of Mexico would be constructed and illegals would have the option of leaving or being catapolted across the wall when caught.


Except for the line Item veto, and the flat tax, I'm for all of the above. It puts too much power in the Presidents hands and we're already out of control with that, and the flat tax would burden the middle class even more.

[medicinal]

I believe in:

- THE LEGALIZATION, REGULATION, AND FAIR TAXATION OF CANNABIS.

- Medical care for all citizens, regardless of ability to pay.

- Taking serious action on the environment, the kind of efforts and spending nations usually put into wars...... but with something other than blowing shit up for once.

- The right of responsible, law-abiding citizens to own firearms.

- The legalization and regulation of all hallucinogens, in the purest sense (ie. salvia, shrooms, lsd, peyote, ayahuasca).

- A free market, with trade unions and social security.

- Free education, and massively subsidized (possibly free) secondary education since it's becoming so essential.

- Decriminalization of hard drug use, and harsh penalties for illegal production. If you commit crimes and it's deemed to be because of your hard drug use, you're forced into a detox camp for a period several months past the point of withdrawl. If you still go back to drug-related crime on a third offense, then you're facing jail time.

- Disarmament of all nuclear weapons, after an anti-nuke defense system has been perfected. I also don't believe a nation has the right to demand nuclear disarmament when they won't even partially do the same.

- Homosexuality, jackin off, sodomy, and oral sex are none of the government's or the law's damn business.

- Equality of all races, and I mean REAL equallity. No special laws for being a certain race, and no discrimination for being a certain race. If a certain group needs help out of the gutter, help them out. But the law regarding individual rights, taxation, and hiring practices should be the same.

- Majorly subsidized prescriptions for low-income people.
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I agree with all of these, some more than others, but all of them I'll add a couple, stop the war immediately and bring back our soldiers. 2. stop jousting with the Muslims and let them run thier own countries.

[Daveracer]

I believe that people should be able to do pretty much whatever the fuck they want (to a point).

[thcbongman]

I believe......

- True Democracy, issues voted by the people, not representatives

- Defense limited to a response and logistics capability. Citizens regulate their own militia.

- Health Care, Education and Transportation get adequate funding and provided for all citizens. Any other funding is at limited discretion.

-All election for officials are funded by the government with free, but limited access to media. No more fund-raisers, lobbyists, the works.

-Flat Tax for everyone that makes less than $500,000. Rich pay more appropriate to income.

-Ban on unions

-limited funding of art to projects with state and historical significance

-Deregulation of all illicit substances

-No military aid. Economic incentives to 3rd world countries that do business with America.

-No wall, less restrictive border controls

-Environmentally sensible

-Citizens allowed to bear arms due to militia

-free market

-consolidation of power away from coal and oil, to solely wind, water, solar, and nuclear energy

-Government stays away from religious and social issues

-Concept of race is not recognized by the government. No affirmative action

[The Figment]

Oh ya, when our job is done in the middle east I'd use these troops and the knowledge gained to clean up our cities. The bloods, crypts, GS-13 would feel the boot of the red, white, and blue right up their candy asses! It's a damn shame that people in this country are extorted by punks on our own streets.

Have a good one! :s4:

Now,that might be a bit much. I agree with you on the Gang problem but US military on our streets acting like LEO's strikes a bit too much like marshall law! mabey using the tactics and training to train the cops as to how to deal with gangs?? Also better wepons to help them? Gangs are TOO well Armed!!
And mabey the enterainment industry need to stop glorifing Gang Lifestyle so much,There's nothing worng with music style until it glorifies things like "Slappin Bitches,Poundin 40's,Puttin the hoe's on the corner and generally acting like Thugs!!

[mrdevious]

P4B, I'm starting to like you more and more, a conservative that understands more than one political spectrum :)


VERY strong on the defense issue....if there is any chance that our people are going to war.....they should have the best!

Agreed. Though personally I think it should be in the form of a somewhat medium, well equiped and trained, elite force. Not a massive army built for conquering.



2 term limits on congress and senate

Absolutely! Here in Canada the senate is appointed and have 45 year term limits. It gets very elitist and biased in favor of the party that appointed them.


NO special interest groups allowed anywhere near the D.C. area/ Congress, Senate, President

cool.


Flat tax

Out of curiosity, how would this work? Do you mean somebody making $120,000 a year, and somebody making $30,000, should both pay the same $15,000 tax?


Repeal of all laws binding the hands of labor unions...it's about time the C.E.O.s learn to share again.

Very much agreed!


Legalize all recreational drugs.......put 10% of that enforcement money wasted into treatment.

Sounds good to me.



The arts should be a private matter and needs no endorsement $ from the fed.

agreed.


Economic aid to whatever country would be eliminated. A person with a $40,000 and is currently over 3/4 of that in debt does not give money away.

Yes and no. I'm not big on the relief money (in large quantities really), but I would support funding to establish national stability so that nation can have a stable market and standard of living. But I don't agree with just supporting the foreign population because they can't take care of themselves.


The Great Wall of Mexico would be constructed and illegals would have the option of leaving or being catapolted across the wall when caught.

I have nothing against imigrants, not even illegals, but I sort of agree with this. Only sort of because I havne't given it a huge amount of thought. The point is, imigration should be a regulated thing where a country can choose how many people it can support, not a system where we kindly let in random people who are anywhere from engineers to serial rapists.

[thcbongman]

Out of curiosity, how would this work? Do you mean somebody making $120,000 a year, and somebody making $30,000, should both pay the same $15,000 tax?


They pay the same percentage of tax.

[Psycho4Bud]

My idea of a flat tax is a tax put on ALL so called luxury goods excluding food items and "some" clothing items. Some as in non-designer style clothing. Everything else would have an additional flat tax of lets say 5% added on to the purchase price just as it is already today.

If your poor just getting by your tax rate "should" be at 0% based on purchasing no luxury goods. Joe millionaire that changes up his Rolls Royce and designer underware by the score would pay out more and with the loss of tax loop holes.

Industry would also be paying their fair share based on purchasing consumer items to keep the buisiness running and O.E.M. items for the parts needed to assemble a final product. MORE incentive to create things in house instead of farming out for goods. Parts brought in from overseas would also have a flat tax based on purchase price for the goods........call it a tariff if you like.

Why wouldn't this be passed? Because the people we have in office right now are the ones jet setting making the big bucks. I've yet to see the government pass something that would directly effect their own personal pockets.

Have a good one!:s4:

April 15th comes and there's NO taxes to worry about or all the paper work, etc....that the government now has to contend with.

[Psycho4Bud]

P4B, I'm starting to like you more and more, a conservative that understands more than one political spectrum :)

I don't care much for the label of a certain political party.......seems to hold down the thought process. Unfortunately with the way things are presently, we get the media coverage of the two favorites which for some odd reason nobody likes. When we go to vote these days it not based on "I like this dude"........it's all about how "I hate this one".

It always amazes me on how people in here use a "litmus test" for a candidate based on only one issue. Some are all about the weed forum, others about the war. What about the several hundred other issues? LMAO!...if a dude went on TV today and stated that he'd legalize weed as soon as elected BUT ALSO would nuke out Iran, Syria, and the rest of the middle east I can see some dumbasses in here saying "WOOOHOOOO, legal weed! That's my man!".

Have a good one!:s4:

[latewood]

I think if you merge mrdevious, zimzum, and p4b...you might have something. I want the flat tax...all us poor people want is that the rich bastards pay tax too!

NO more million $ tax breaks for corporations running South to dump the unions, and getting millions of tax breaks in order to make more millions. Meanwhile local infrastructure suffer under the burden. Hell someone said "give the states back their power. I agree, but the states should answer to the people. So we need to throw out electoral college which only benefits the rich ,and big cities. Bring back the popular vote, So that the president is elected by the majority of voters, that are all supposed to have equal rights and values. Peace

KUDOS! This thread is exactly what I have been on my soapbox about in relation to the politics forum...Wish us all; goodluck!

[Psycho4Bud]

This is a great thread with few responses as to the thread title.........sure would like to see other regulars in here post their positions.......

Have a good one!:s4:

[latewood]

I don't care much for the label of a certain political party.......seems to hold down the thought process. Unfortunately with the way things are presently, we get the media coverage of the two favorites which for some odd reason nobody likes. When we go to vote these days it not based on "I like this dude"........it's all about how "I hate this one".

It always amazes me on how people in here use a "litmus test" for a candidate based on only one issue. Some are all about the weed forum, others about the war. What about the several hundred other issues? LMAO!...if a dude went on TV today and stated that he'd legalize weed as soon as elected BUT ALSO would nuke out Iran, Syria, and the rest of the middle east I can see some dumbasses in here saying "WOOOHOOOO, legal weed! That's my man!".


Have a good one!:s4:
Meanwhile we wouldn't be able to grow it, due to the nuclear fallout and dirty bombs. Not lol lw

[higher4hockey]

i would like to see not the legalization, but the derciminalization of cannabis.

i would like to see the second ammendment upheld for the rest of this countries existance.

i would like to see a healthcare system implemented.

for me military spending is a no brainer. it takes a lot of money to run an army. "without supply, you will die" no soldier, sailor or marine should have to die because he didnt have something that 'cost to much'.

some things i don't agree with and why:
ban on unions. don't agree with that, i'm an electrician.

no wall, dont agree with that either, there is a right way to enter this country. and this country has many rules that need to be followed, if an immigrant can't follow the rules on how to enter this country, how can they be expected to be a productive citizen and follow the rules of our society ?

[Psycho4Bud]

some things i don't agree with and why:
ban on unions. don't agree with that, i'm an electrician.

They should NEVER ban unions. Both my parents were union workers and my mother stood outside the gates of a tire company in the 60's with a baseball bat looking across at cops and nation gaurdsmen. THAT is the problem these days, they took away the strength of the union to the point that scabs can cross lines for cheaper pay screwing the trained workers. Hell, back in 81 I was on strike in a laundry plant and my fucking father in law crossed picket line.....LMAO...I took my 2 year old son to the strike the VERY next day with a sign saying" MY GRANDPA IS A SCAB!".....How the family loved my ass then!!

Laws have been slated way to far in the favor of industry regarding union matters.......it's time for the fat cats to share the wealth!

Have a good one!:s4:

[VaporDaddy]

Great thread!
-health care is a human right ( if the U.S. govornment diverted drug war funds to national health care problem solved.)
-Education is fundamental to a progressive society. Education must be among the very top priorities.

[Breukelen advocaat]

The problems of unions are compounded by their support of bad policies like affirmative action and socialistic government programs, and the politicians who support these policies as well.

I attended large union rally during the last presidential electionâ??s Republican Primary Convention in New York City (Sept. 2004), and I was outraged at the speakers they had , which included several well known Bush-hating celebrities. I donâ??t need the AFL-CIO to tell me who I should, or should not, vote for, much less the extremely wealthy, left-wing Hollywood people they brought in to speak at the rally. I believe that some of these celebrities' comments were shown to us via live satellite broadcast. I was on 9th Avenue, they were on a beach in California or Hawaii, lol.

[latewood]

I personally am not a fan of unions and B.A. hit the nail on the head as to why? Not to mention their unfortunate, but obvious ties to Organized Crime. Unions started as a great idea, but they are in need of an overhaul much like mainstream government.

continuing a great thread...next

[midlifecrisis]

I personally am not a fan of unions and B.A. hit the nail on the head as to why? Not to mention their unfortunate, but obvious ties to Organized Crime. Unions started as a great idea, but they are in need of an overhaul much like mainstream government.

continuing a great thread...next

Agreed, I am involved in construction and it is ridiculous......If I dig a hole by hand I need a Laborer, If I use a bobcat I need an operator. If I pour concrete into the hole, Laborer again. If the concrete needs to be finished, yeah a concrete finisher. If I want to set a steel post in the concrete in the hole, Ironworker. If the post is wood, Carpenter...and so on and so on.

I have no problem paying someone a livable wage or better if they get the job done, I do have a problem with some self appointed job pimp telling me who can and can't do work.

Politics and unions both need a healthy slap of common sense.

Flat tax....yes

Army...best of the best

Term limits...absolutley, however I would be ok with 3, no more 20-30+ year congressmen, er um congressperson.


Of course legalization of cannabis.

:cool:

[Dutch Pimp]

I believe that people should be able to do pretty much whatever the fuck they want (to a point).

...compared to today.....IT use to be like that......

[birdgirl73]

I’ve jotted these down over the last three or four days since this post went up, but I’m sure I’ve still forgotten some big ones. I believe in:

Medical, drugs, and health care
- The legalization, regulation and taxation of cannabis

- The decriminalization of other harder drugs, adding easily accessible safe-needle programs for IV users and clean, safe drugs combined with addiction treatment programs for addicts

- Medical care for all citizens. This can be done through a combination private and public program, and it wouldn’t mean a decline in quality care, no matter what opponents like to say. This includes prescription drugs at affordable prices for everyone.

- Worldwide plans to address AIDS/HIV through education, prevention and treatment and to address imminent global disease threats such as bird flu

Education
- Free, quality public education for all children, with a plan that requires the completion of either high school or basic vocational school and allows everyone who completes high school/basic vocational school to have two years of subsidized junior college, university, or further vocational training (this would have an amazing effect on crime, among other things)

- Second-language education a basic part of all primary and secondary schooling from day one of kindergarten through the last day of high school so all native-English-speaking children will have language proficiency in at least one other language besides English

- Standardized educational testing that measures achievement but doesn’t encourage school systems to teach only toward those tests

- Non-government- or religious-influenced sex education, which include both contraception information and abstinence education, for all children during their school years. For teenagers beginning in middle school, encouragement (but without government mandates) of birth control, safe-sex practices, and vaccination against HPV

- Routine education about money matters and budgeting, saving and retirement planning beginning with school children.

Budgetary matters
- A balanced national budget and a requirement that it must stay balanced, even with war spending

- Proportional taxes. That is, the rich pay the same proportion as the poor and middle class, which is far from the way it is now

- Immediate attention to the disastrous financial course the U.S. is on now so we can get out of the deficit hole we’re in and save the programs we have currently, making Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid sound once again

Defense, military and anti-terrorism
- A strong national defense that has bipartisan agreement and support

- Functioning nuclear defense, then nuclear disarmament in steps

- A requirement that a diplomatic route always be the avenue of first resort before offensive military action is taken and that diplomatic approaches continue even after offensive action is initiated

- A biometric identification program for all travelers into and out of the United States modeled after those that are already in place in well developed Middle Eastern countries

Political, government, and election reform
- Ethics/lobbying reform and term-limits. Ethics reform would change the way lobbying, wining-and-dining of elected officials, and other lavish influence-spending is done. Lobbyists can still lobby but gift-giving, free trips, large contributions, and other types of financial influence would cease.

- Popular election of the U.S. President. Get rid of the Electoral College.

- Implement common, fair, across-the-board election procedures from state to state, with voting machines that also leave a backup paper-trail for recounts and to ensure fairness. Hold elections over weekends instead of on weekdays. Implement and promote combination voting-lottery registration that all voters are eligible to win

Private-sector ethics and business reform
- Private-industry ethics reform to stop the lavish influence-spending of pharmaceutical and insurance companies to influence physicians and hospitals. Further reform to prevent unethical practices such as ophthalmologists referring patients to their own doctor-owned eyeglass stores or neurologists and other physicians referring patients to imaging centers or other care facilities in which they have vested business interests.

- An expansion or offshoot of Sarbannes-Oxley laws to include even further oversight of corporate accounting practices and protection of employee pension assets and retirement plans, making those funds safer still from being raided, dipped into or dramatically altered in ways that change the ultimate financial benefits for faithful contributors

- Better SEC oversight of insider-trading and unethical business practices among corporate chieftains. Limits on stock and security options granted to execs and much tighter limits on the buying and trading of granted options by corporate execs

- Limits on golden parachutes/huge goodbye payoffs for departing C-level executives

- Assurance that earning power of high-level corporate executives is commensurate with company performance/bottom-line success and limit it so that is not so vastly out of line of individual-performer-level employee salaries

- Reform of our nation’s legal system in a way that doesn’t incent plaintiff action and plaintiffs’ attorneys

Environmental
- Strong encouragement of environmental responsibility, including tax credits/incentives for people, companies, educational institutions, non-profit organizations, and government entities or municipalities who go green

- Incentives for businesses for research and development of alternative, non-petro-fueled cars and for cities and states that develop clean-powered mass transportation

- A treaty that dramatically reduces greenhouse gasses and CFCs around the world (implemented in steps)

- Worldwide plans for how to address coming droughts and water shortages

Privacy/Freedom of Reproductive Access/Equality
- Government stays out of the business of sex and sex-resulting matters. This includes sodomy laws and, as I already mentioned above, abortion on the grounds of privacy and personal choice

- Reproductive rights and abortion access for all women, which, if the sex education plan mentioned in the Education category above is implemented properly, will be far less needed. An adoption-encouragement step is a routine part of the access procedure. Women who’ve been through the adoption-encouragement step and still want an abortion can then proceed to termination, but with better sex education, access to birth control, and the adoption counseling approach, this should be the exception rather than the rule.

- The ability for all people, gay or straight, to form contractual unions/marriages if they choose to

- Equality and anti-discrimination for individuals of all races, genders, disabilities, sexual-preferences, transgendered and other minority status (and here I don’t just mean racial minorities). Where applicable, enforce hate-crimes equally from group to group

Immigration
- Address the immigration problem with formation of a North American Union instead of walls at the northern or southern U.S. borders. The union would allow for free trade among countries yet would allow each country to maintain its own laws and unique identity. Each country would issue ID cards to all citizens. All employers ranging from large companies to small day-labor-hiring outfits would be required to check ID cards and adhere to specific hiring practices. Mexican, Canadian and U.S citizens could live and work in other NA union countries under visas and under the oversight of their employers, who’d be subject to alien hiring restrictions. Health and human services would be covered by citizens’ native countries or employers, not picked up by the countries into which people had immigrated. In rare instances where services were emergently provided to aliens/immigrant workers by host countries, those expenses would be billed back to the alien’s country or employer of origin. Free trade and regulated but open borders would benefit the three union countries in various ways, particularly with prescription drug and buyable good prices, and it would help liberalize our own country’s cannabis laws. A union approach would vastly improve the standard of living in Mexico, which would help stem the tide of immigrants coming to live and work in the U.S. The U.S. and Canada would have to help Mexico get its crime and corruption problems under control initially, but that could be done.

- - - - - -

I wouldn't be myself if I didn't have others on my list. We need to help prevent human rights debacles in other countries such as the Sudan. We need to completely revamp our country's approach to child and adult-protective services and need an overhaul of our foster parenting program, too. There are many many more but if I tried to articulate and solve all the world's problems here, I'd never get any studying or work done in my real life.

[dutch.lover]

Here are some of my interests/values/goals:

-equal opportunity for everyone: affordable health care, housing and education are ways to do this

-the environment...I just wish people would take global warming seriously. I think gas/carbon should be taxed at a ridiculous rate to deter consumers, and then use that tax money for environmental initiatives

-equality for minorities, women specifically...women still make considerably less than men in the workforce, and have to work wayyyyy harder to get into the same position as a man.

-legalization of all drugs, I don't believe laws should exist that solely affect the individual. ie i think laws should only be there to protect society, if someone wants to 'harm' themselves with drugs that should be their right

-if I were a US citizen another of my concerns would be to ABOLISH ABSTINANCE ONLY SEX EDUCATION. stupidest thing ever, it has been PROVEN NOT TO WORK!!! It's soooo ridiculous and closed minded.

i could go on for a long time, but i will say one last thing which has really been bothering me lately. I wish Canada would sever a lot of ties with the US when it comes to trade and shit, cause the US controls Canada like nobody's business, and I hate it because the two countries are very ideologically different. Here's what bugs me the most: Canada as a country could be COMPLETELY independant. We have the most resources in the entire world, and could exist alone. Yet, we import a ton of food, water, energy, and oil (among other things) which we don't need to do. We do this, because of the ill thought out relationships we have formed with other countries, like the states. (eg. NAFTA)

thats my rant for the day

[rebgirl420]

I'm 100 percent anti gun control (im a NRA member)

I am against socialized health care

I am against welfare

I am for the legalization of all drugs

I am for gay marriage

I am for the war, though we should fight Patton style

lowered taxes and less federal control over trade

oh and pretty much less government in general, its so big it cant get out of its own way

[Psycho4Bud]

I'm 100 percent anti gun control (im a NRA member)

I am against socialized health care

I am against welfare

I am for the legalization of all drugs

I am for gay marriage

I am for the war, though we should fight Patton style

lowered taxes and less federal control over trade

oh and pretty much less government in general, its so big it cant get out of its own way

DAMN girl........you single? hehehe

Have a good one!:s4:

[rebgirl420]

hahah well I like to believe im a libertarian with Thomas Jefferson views haha, politics are important to me, my dad got me into them haha, thats why Im majoring in American History so I can be a teacher:)

[KiEfBoyjBm]

Immigration
- Address the immigration problem with formation of a North American Union instead of walls at the northern or southern U.S. borders. The union would allow for free trade among countries yet would allow each country to maintain its own laws and unique identity. Each country would issue ID cards to all citizens. All employers ranging from large companies to small day-labor-hiring outfits would be required to check ID cards and adhere to specific hiring practices. Mexican, Canadian and U.S citizens could live and work in other NA union countries under visas and under the oversight of their employers, whoâ??d be subject to alien hiring restrictions. Health and human services would be covered by citizensâ?? native countries or employers, not picked up by the countries into which people had immigrated. In rare instances where services were emergently provided to aliens/immigrant workers by host countries, those expenses would be billed back to the alienâ??s country or employer of origin. Free trade and regulated but open borders would benefit the three union countries in various ways, particularly with prescription drug and buyable good prices, and it would help liberalize our own countryâ??s cannabis laws. A union approach would vastly improve the standard of living in Mexico, which would help stem the tide of immigrants coming to live and work in the U.S. The U.S. and Canada would have to help Mexico get its crime and corruption problems under control initially, but that could be done.

Howdy Birdgirl!

NORTH AMERICAN UNION??

Are you positive that you want that, do you want the United States to slowly fade into obscurity? Of course I am not going to agree with everything that you say, although I do like many of your ideas. But this has to be one of your worst. I would rather sacrifice the right to smoke ganja (if I had it to begin with) than to relinquish our sovereignty and jeopardize our national identity.


An expansion or offshoot of Sarbannes-Oxley

Sarbannes-Oxley is raping corporations as it is, if we don't consider reducing its strength, America may loose its competitive edge. Corporations are now considering going private because compliance is so difficult. Tyco, Enron, etc. did hurt our nation, but that does not justify punishment of all public companies and their leaders. I think there is probably a place in the middle that I would be comfortable with.


Reproductive rights and abortion access for all women, which, if the sex education plan mentioned in the Education category above is implemented properly, will be far less needed. An adoption-encouragement step is a routine part of the access procedure. Women who have been through the adoption-encouragement step and still want an abortion can then proceed to termination, but with better sex education, access to birth control, and the adoption counseling approach, this should be the exception rather than the rule.

Each year, 1.3 million women in the United States undergo an abortion. Abortions have become a convenience for irresponsible people to avoid responsibility. The sex ed argument does not fly with me...I went to a very conservative high school (Barbara Bush MS, Ronald Reagan HS), I go to Texas A&M, and my parents really didn't tell me shit about sex. This did not turn out to be problem...I know all that I need to know about contraceptives and I have known these things since probably the 6th grade. Ignorance should not be accepted as an excuse. Information flows as freely as it ever has...giving out handfuls of condoms hardly seems to be a better alternative to abstinence only education, which I will admit has become an extremely partisan issue.

Just my two cents...Happy 420 all!

[Hardcore Newbie]

Something my dad always talks about if he got to choose would be to change all laws so that they aren't written in legalese, but ENGLISH! If you can't understand the laws that are supposedly written for you, how can you be held accountable for it? Making lawyers so damn powerful... many laws today have no reason for existing.

[kassidy]

Rebgirl, you are my new hero girl!

[rebgirl420]

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[GotWake88]

I believe in:

Civil Liberty first and foremost. The government should stay out of the personal lives of Americans.

-All recreational drugs should be legalized, with the tax from them going to rehabilitation of hard drug addicts.
-All victimless crimes(including prostitution) should be phased out of the lawbooks
-Homosexual marriage should be legalized.
-Patriot Act repealed, Military Commissions Act repealed.

I believe in fiscal responsibility
-putting forth balanced budgets is vital. A nation that spends money it does not have is always riding on the brink of economic crisis.
-Welfare reform
-I believe the income tax should not be lowered, but repealed altogether and the IRS abolished. This could be replaced with a federal sales tax. The current tax system penalizes Americans for generating wealth and damages the economy. Of course this would require cutting back on spending, which should be done anyway, and would be easy to do.

I believe in a foreign policy of non-intervention.
Our current foreign policy only stirs up more resentment towards Americans and is a significant contributing factor to terrorism against the United States.
"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto."
-Thomas Jefferson