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Samwhore
03-07-2007, 02:41 AM
What makes you believe in your religion/ keep the faith?
I find that a hard question and wonder myself.
enjoy the discussion:thumbsup:
Matt the Funk
03-07-2007, 02:53 AM
I don't lol. Nothing to make me believe. So yeah, that is my input.
MY faith is unique to me so if I don't keep it nobody else will.
JunkYard
03-07-2007, 03:08 AM
I suppose because I have expereinced the effects of my faith in such a manner that I simply cannot NOT believe. My faith didn't start as faith, it started as fear, then moved on to wanting to please my God, but neither satisfied my inner man. It wasn't until I sought after inner peace (KOH) that I came to my current belief and faith in it. It turned this ex-tweaker into something I'm proud to be.
(Liberal minded Christian)
One Love,
Junk~
smoke it
03-07-2007, 03:35 AM
i dont beleive. have a lack of beleif, which will continue untill i die and find out what is really going on.
Oneironaut
03-07-2007, 04:06 AM
I don't see the point in having "faith". If I'm going to believe in things without evidence, how will I know what to believe in? I mean, is it really just a toss-up between Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Scientology, and Greek polytheism? I couldn't imagine just picking a religion and having faith in it without some kind of really compelling evidence that the supernatural exists and that that particular religion accurately describes how it works. Such evidence, it goes without saying, is severely lacking.
Guerrero
03-07-2007, 04:12 AM
I believe because life is to beautiful to be made by an accident. When I'm out 15 miles in the woods on my bike, looking over creation, the beauty of it makes me know that this is not an accident. When I see my kids running around the yard, laughing and screaming, I know that this is not an accident. When I pray for strength, and I get it, I know that this is not an accident. My proof doesn't have to be proof at all. I have faith, and it has made my life all the more worthwhile.
Pass That Shit
03-07-2007, 04:18 AM
This is why I believe.....
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
If you don't have substance and evidence, you don't have FAITH.
Oneironaut
03-07-2007, 04:19 AM
Of course life wasn't a random accident. It was the result of gene frequencies changing in self-replicating organisms in huge numbers over incredibly long timescales. Our puny little ape minds cannot comprehend the sheer huge numbers evolved with natural selection, so we find it rather hard to believe that this purely physical non-random process could create things as complex as ecosystems and frontal lobes. But the scientific evidence supporting a naturalistic evolution of every organism on earth from a single progenitor is rock solid; there is no point in the process where the laws of physics are not in complete control and we need to evoke the powers of some mysterious invisible supergenius.
Life is indeed beautiful, but it's not made any less beautiful by the fact that it's all matter and energy moving around in spacetime according to the laws of physics. In fact, the fact that we can understand life makes it even more beautiful.
MarzVooolta
03-07-2007, 06:04 AM
Life to me means experiences. No matter what gets us down no matter what obstacle is always seemlessly ALWAYS around the corner. That feeling of shit and utter dispair really is nothing compared to the joyous times and tear jerking beautiful experiences in your life, and thats what keeps me believing. I believe in beauty and that divine piece of me that I know exists... thats belief. I wouldnt say I belong to any religion but I do believe I belong to spirituality ,I think we all do in our own way, what makes me keep faith is knowing that I have an unconditional love that is rooted deep down inside me always trying to reach its head to the surface.
sm0k1t
03-07-2007, 06:33 PM
Kinda simple for me, I believe that life is just more than the laws of physics and all the domains of sciences. I put my faith not only in science but in man. I guess I feel that there is a purpose for everything and that purpose comes with choice and choices require consciousness. Man has this so he creates things with a designed purpose. I don't know who HE or SHE is or THEY are but I think something or someone (probably a group) created the universe and the laws of physics and so on in a eternal loop of creation (the creators are created and create) So, I'm thankfull for all the good in this world wich is worth fighting for to preserve it.
Just a thought....we are on the verge of creating a very advance AI so if you were this AI (machine) and we humans are extinct with no records of our passing maybe they would be in our situation...
Erosea
03-07-2007, 08:32 PM
I believe what makes the most sense to me. I don't follow any particular organized religion or path - I simply believe what seems most likely to me, and what I "feel" is true (which includes a loving God, reincarnation, enlightenment, the idea that God is best found through nature, I'm a Pagan at heart). So it's not like I'm trying to wrestle with certain doctrines of a given religion that I don't believe in. If something happened in my life to make me feel differently than I do now, then I would just change my beliefs - however, I think it would take something incredibly massive to do that.
mrdevious
03-08-2007, 06:28 AM
I don't know if "believe" is exactly the right term. I try to learn all I can about this existence, explore all perceptions of it, and use an exploration of my own conscious processes to keep adding to my knowledge. But all knowledge changes and grows. All I can do is formulate a view of reality as accurately as possible with the information I've gained.
Now as to why I believe in buddhism.... I suppose that's a complex question. When I started reading about it, it felt as though my perceptions and thoughts had been explained, and clarified, more than I would have done of my own accord. It was like telling me something I already knew, but barely understood. What I particularily like about the buddha's teachings though, is that it delivers what it promises. It lays out the techniques and practices for developing ones mind in that direction... for ending suffering, ending ignorance, and gaining control over ones karmic path. And while the Buddha's teachings are the core of my spirituality, they aren't the only ones. There's incredible knowledge and understanding to be gained from many different philosophies, and they don't all have to be religious. I've also gained invaluable information from taoism, entheogenic shamanism, quantum theory, relativity, biology, neuro-chemistry, yoga, meditation, and my own life-experimentation with perceptions and actions and their observable results.
PureEvil760
03-08-2007, 01:52 PM
probably the thousands and thousands of intricate recorded spiritual experiences
MotleyCrueBoy24
03-10-2007, 12:05 AM
I believe myself to have spiritual experiences on psychadelics. Experiences that I may believe to be an encounter with a higher power. Whatever you want to call that higher power. I would be really leaning towards athiest if it wasn't for the natural herbs the higher power put on this Earth. After all in the bible it says God gave us all his herbs for our use.
MotleyCrueBoy24
03-10-2007, 12:07 AM
I don't see the point in having "faith". If I'm going to believe in things without evidence, how will I know what to believe in? I mean, is it really just a toss-up between Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Scientology, and Greek polytheism? I couldn't imagine just picking a religion and having faith in it without some kind of really compelling evidence that the supernatural exists and that that particular religion accurately describes how it works. Such evidence, it goes without saying, is severely lacking.Drop acid and go to church. See what happens.
dutch.lover
03-10-2007, 12:22 AM
nothing makes me believe (in a religious sort of way).
the only thing I truly believe in is myself.
The.Devil.Himself
03-10-2007, 12:38 AM
I believe because i know my religion is the one, true path to god....
For those wondering which religion is the one to pick....
The Zion Mormon-Science Witness' Cult of Southern Idaho (now with 19% more faith!)
You can thank me in Heaven. :)
The.Devil.Himself
03-10-2007, 01:10 AM
:) no really though, i'm agnostic.
Rub it in and you'll be seeing my ass through a straw on the sidewalk.
....think about it.
MotleyCrueBoy24
03-10-2007, 01:24 AM
Ha, not for one minute did I believe you were serious. But if it were true I certainly would not hold it against you. I love religious and cultural diversity.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
03-10-2007, 02:13 PM
my faith, i craft my own, i do not partake in religious practices, or daily routine, i look to the world with an open heart and mind, and take in what i perceive. i philosophies and put it together as logically as possible.
therein i have much faith in my beliefs.
eg420ne
03-10-2007, 03:27 PM
Drop acid and go to church. See what happens.
Done it, never do it again
twist n shout
03-10-2007, 07:29 PM
All I have to do is look around me every day and see the immense beauty that is present in this great state of Idaho in which I live,and you can bet your a** I believe.Yessiree, I believe.
The.Devil.Himself
03-10-2007, 07:42 PM
All I have to do is look around me every day and see the immense beauty that is present in this great state of Idaho in which I live,and you can bet your a** I believe.Yessiree, I believe.
Idaho huh?? Without getting too specific on a marijuana forum, where in Idaho??
I'm in idaho too! yay! My area has a lot of movie stars, snow skiing, mountains, etc... I'm about an hour from Twin Falls, care to take a guess? :)
Good to see another idahoan here! And yes, this is a truly beautiful state. So much diversity, but everything is pure and unspoiled by progress. Definately a change of pace from Orange County.
mirvana
03-10-2007, 08:05 PM
I believe because life is to beautiful to be made by an accident. When I'm out 15 miles in the woods on my bike, looking over creation, the beauty of it makes me know that this is not an accident. When I see my kids running around the yard, laughing and screaming, I know that this is not an accident. When I pray for strength, and I get it, I know that this is not an accident. My proof doesn't have to be proof at all. I have faith, and it has made my life all the more worthwhile.
damn.
twist n shout
03-11-2007, 05:38 AM
Sup Devil? Im guessing your up around Sun Valley. Im just outside Boise. I just moved down here from up by Tamarack in Valley County. Great state we live in, aint it? Gods country I call it. Drop me a line, maybe we can meet up sometime.Later
lazy smoker7
03-12-2007, 12:39 PM
I believe because ever since the beginning of time ppl have been talking about a god and hell there probally is one then. Also when I look out at beautiful sceneary and I am smoking a joint... I know for damn sure some awesome kind good god made this for us to enjoy... it couldent have just happened from molucules exploding etc and all that scientific bull crap.. Also I feal some were inside of me that I was indeed created by some type of god.. also that when i am scared shitless ... i start praying... so thats why i believe ... the only thing I have not answered yet is why would this god let evil be on this earth? I mean i just cant understand why he hasnt stopped it yet and is waiting... I hoping one day to find out this questions....
pandorasbox
03-14-2007, 05:33 PM
I don't think I have a soul, at least one that will retain my memories, personality, and experiences. If anything, there could be some sort of life force, some sort of unified consciousness, but I honestly do not believe that I will ever be aware of it.
I am somewhat of a materialist, but I am open to new ways of thinking about consciousness. I just don't see how an individual can survive brain death. Everything you are and experience is due to your brain, therefore anything in the "afterlife" would have to exclude this kind of experience, unless you believe in some magical God who can reconstruct your brain exactly the way as it was (which I don't).
jdmarcus59
03-21-2007, 09:53 PM
What makes you believe in your religion/ keep the faith?
I find that a hard question and wonder myself.
enjoy the discussion:thumbsup:
it is in man to belive in somthing, cause in are hearts, we know that there
is somthing bigger then are self...:)
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