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Sweeney
03-02-2007, 06:16 AM
I got a friend I get high with all the time. He's pretty new at it but claims to be tough shit bout it. He always over exagerates how much we smoke. He'll be like how many bowls have we smoked 8? 9? And i'd be like nah more like 4 man. He'll argue with me saying he's positive we smoked that much.

One thing that I notice bout him is when he smokes as soon as he takes his mouth off of the pipe hes already exhaling. I call him on it all the time and he just continues doing it. Anyone else smoke with people like this?

BabyFacedAbortion
03-02-2007, 06:18 AM
Not to sound like a bitch but this has been discussed before...

it doesn't matter if you hold hits or not. the thc is immediatly absorbed into your lungs. Please search for threads containing this information because i'm way too tired to do it for you.

smoking habit
03-02-2007, 06:20 AM
no, I hate noobs like you.

Sweeney
03-02-2007, 06:25 AM
no, I hate noobs like you.

Contrare.

slipknotpsycho
03-02-2007, 06:25 AM
no lol? i exhale my smoke prettty quickly as well.. i'd prolly slap you if you started trippin on me for blowing it out... 97% of the thc in the smoke is absorbed by the lungs within 3 seconds...

Matt the Funk
03-02-2007, 06:25 AM
Holding hits don't do much, but exhaling that soon is just weird.

JaggedEdge
03-02-2007, 06:27 AM
*edit* deleted

stoned ramblings that didn't make any sense.

buhman200
03-02-2007, 06:32 AM
I'm curious about one thing. I've heard a lot of people claim that it doesn't matter how long you hold a hit in, but I've never seen any scientific explanation/evidence that it doesn't matter. Logically, it seems to me that when you inhale, the smoke contains a certain percentage of THC, which will get chemically absorbed into the lungs like any other saturation type reaction. Most chemical reactions take at least a non-neglible amount of time, so to absorb THC should take at least a -few- seconds. I'm speaking in an entirely general sense, learned from a year of college chemistry, however I don't know much about the specifics of THC absorbtion.

slipknotpsycho
03-02-2007, 06:34 AM
I'm curious about one thing. I've heard a lot of people claim that it doesn't matter how long you hold a hit in, but I've never seen any scientific explanation/evidence that it doesn't matter. Logically, it seems to me that when you inhale, the smoke contains a certain percentage of THC, which will get chemically absorbed into the lungs like any other saturation type reaction. Most chemical reactions take at least a non-neglible amount of time, so to absorb THC should take at least a -few- seconds. I'm speaking in an entirely general sense, learned from a year of college chemistry, however I don't know much about the specifics of THC absorbtion.

97% of all the thc contained within the smoke in your lungs is absorbed within 3 seconds...

search for it, cuz it's been scientificly broken down, this used to be a point of a large debate...

Skink
03-02-2007, 06:35 AM
I am from the old school and held hits till I was blue in the face... once I read about it here I tried hitting and immediately exhaling and to my amazement i got fucked up just as well..

slipknotpsycho
03-02-2007, 06:38 AM
when i started i used to hold it that long as well (in my head the longer i held it in the better) then eventually i started smoking alot fo joints/blunts and i started smokin 'em like cigs without thinking about it... then eventually someone pointed it out to me, and i said "well i've been getting just as high" months or maybe even a year later that first thread popped up...

vileoxidation
03-02-2007, 06:46 AM
no, I hate noobs like you.

Dude, if your rep wasn't disabled, I would totally be adding to it right now.

And I sounded like a valley girl right then.

But I'm high so its okay.....:D :thumbsup:

slipknotpsycho
03-02-2007, 06:52 AM
youc an still rep someone when they have disabled rep... just no one will see it really but them...

Polymirize
03-02-2007, 07:01 AM
I am from the old school and held hits till I was blue in the face... once I read about it here I tried hitting and immediately exhaling and to my amazement i got fucked up just as well..

times change. Now it's the new school, much like the old school, just... better informed.

Still, mad love for all you old school veterans...

vileoxidation
03-02-2007, 07:10 AM
youc an still rep someone when they have disabled rep... just no one will see it really but them...

Oh really? I just figured it wouldn't work if it was disabled. Thanks. :)

ImStonedNILikeIt
03-02-2007, 10:14 AM
Seriously...You may think you're "better" but cut the poor kid some slack :)Okay, so it is a bit annoying, a lot annoying. But do what I do. "Shut the fuck up, you did not smoke that much" Instead of being like "haha my balls are bigger i inhale longer."As what many have said, it works all the same, and it gets you high.And also..if it annoys you that much, i'd advise you to hang with someone else, less annoying, and "better" at getting high. That away you'll have nothing to bitch about later:)And Remember dear, there was once a time, when you too were just a "Noob"

No offense though.I've experienced this before as well.

Peace.:thumbsup:

lazy smoker7
03-02-2007, 10:21 AM
dam the past fucking 6 years ive been holding all my hits in for long amounts of time when I could have just been smoking it like cigs... ive done extra damage to my lungs than I should have if weed even damages the lungs. but usually if a so called noob blows out their smoke right away i dont get angry or anything because I was a noob once to and noobs cant always handle a bong hit or what ever so if they blow out a huge cloud of smoke ill just try to inhale what ever is left in the air from what he blew out lol. I love getting noobs high :)

buddymyfriend
03-02-2007, 10:28 AM
I too used to hold my hits until I was blue in the face and couldn't hold my breath any longer. It makes naff all difference, the only difference being is the head rush you get from lack of oxygen to the brain. Now im older, wiser I just smoke a joint like a fag. Inhale...exhale, its that easy...:thumbsup:

Peace

Buddy

bud luv
03-02-2007, 10:35 AM
\ so if they blow out a huge cloud of smoke ill just try to inhale what ever is left in the air from what he blew out lol. I love getting noobs high :)


inhaling people's second hand smoke? That, my friend, is noobish.

peace.

Reefer Rogue
03-02-2007, 12:31 PM
A study done by a group of doctors in Canada at Dalhousie University, concluded that more than 90% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs within the first seconds of inhalation. Another study confirms this, but they put their number at 95% absorption. The 5-15% of THC that isn't absorbed is due to THC loss in trace smoke, or smoke that never enters the lungs.

Drug Detection Times @ Drug-Test-Facts.com (http://www.drug-test-facts.com/drug-detection-times/)

rebgirl420
03-02-2007, 12:34 PM
He's new guys let it go. He's just asking a simple question (even if it has been beaten to death). Don't worry Sweeney, dont let some of these guys get you down.

benagain
03-02-2007, 12:56 PM
Are we talking about not inhaling? I've seen that happen a few times. They fill thier mouth with smoke and barely let it into the lungs. IF this is happening, then screw the nooB. He's wasting your stash.

lazy smoker7
03-02-2007, 01:54 PM
inhaling people's second hand smoke? That, my friend, is noobish.

peace.

how is that noobish.... only considering ive been smoking bud since 6 years ago and i get a kick out of geting a hit of a cloud of smoke in the air..... i never knew that all the thc is gone when u exhale until I read this thread so you learn new stuff all the time... i think the word your looking for is misinformed not noob...

420Toaker
03-02-2007, 04:30 PM
inhaling people's second hand smoke? That, my friend, is noobish.

peace.

How is that noobish have you ever heard of giving someone a shotgun? And yes that person can get high just from shotgunning off of someone. I know girls that will only hit someones shotgun because they dont like smoking blunt/joint/bong.

JeenYuss
03-02-2007, 04:34 PM
I am from the old school and held hits till I was blue in the face... once I read about it here I tried hitting and immediately exhaling and to my amazement i got fucked up just as well..

im not from tha old skool but i basically had tha same thing, i held the smoke in til the blunt came BACK to me(even if it was like 7 ppl...DAMN) i read on here sumthin bout 3 seconds an shit now all my budsmokers that get mad at me if i dont hold it in, i tell all them the 3 second thing

MaryjaneAndHashley
03-02-2007, 04:49 PM
How is that noobish have you ever heard of giving someone a shotgun? And yes that person can get high just from shotgunning off of someone. I know girls that will only hit someones shotgun because they dont like smoking blunt/joint/bong.

A shotgun is not inhaled smoke, lol

GRB.4.Life
03-02-2007, 04:51 PM
Yea I'de say about 5 seconds is plenty.

I'm with you on that one Billion.

Personally I don't like power tokers. I hate it when people power toke the bowl then hold it in until they cough. I don't see the point in it.

Technically the only thing that is going to make you feel any "higher" is the lack of oxygen to your brain while you're holding your breath...And believe it or not, the longer you hold your breath, the more brain cells you kill.

geonagual
03-02-2007, 04:52 PM
I usually just light my joint and let it sit in the ashtray. There is just too much pressure to do it right.

GRB.4.Life
03-02-2007, 04:54 PM
:wtf: So...You basically wafe the smoke instead of inhaling it traditionally?

lol, J/K.

Yea, whatcha gonna do you know? Some people just like to over-do it...I say leave em be. :thumbsup:

But if they're hittin off my bag they better be smokin it how I want them to smoke it...:p

Humboldt215
03-02-2007, 04:55 PM
wether I am smoking bubble hash, or nugs I only hold it for a sec or two then exhale.. guess im a n00b too


sux to be me

KL4D4
03-02-2007, 05:01 PM
I watch one of my lady friends take a huge hit and just keeping her mouth open, not even inhaling the smoke and I was nice enough to let them smoke the last amount of weed I had with me, like 2 bowls worth and shes wasting it lol I was mad but didn't say anything

Breukelen advocaat
03-02-2007, 05:02 PM
If holding smoke in kills brain cells, I wouldn't be capable of typing this right now.

Before recent revelations about the lack of benefits to holding smoke in for long periods, most people held it in for long periods. Coughing wasn't considered "cool" - so we would take long hits and inhale little bits of air while holding the hits in, usually for 15 - 30 seconds. It's probably far less dangerous than living in an area with bad air quality.

SwirlyMass
03-02-2007, 05:32 PM
I can really say that you are the stupidest mofo ever if you are steadfast about your beliefs about holding hits.

First off, as everyone here has pointed out, it does NOT get you higher (5% - 10% hah thats laughable) second of all smoke doesn't enter the lungs all at once, unless you're doing a gravity bong or a bong or something similar.

So you're already getting more tar than you need by holding it at all, because usually people take at least 2-3 seconds to hit the pipe but the smoke is transfered to the lungs as soon as they start to hit it; the smoke pulled from the start of their hit has already been cleared of THC before they are even done hitting the pipe.

I still hold for a fast 123 count after finishing a hit.

One summer I was smoking at home and in order for my dad not to catch me i would clear my hits and then blow them into my computer intake fan. It worked fine but after that summer my lungs ability to filter oxygen and even hold smoke decrease INCREDIBLY. It really sucks, I wish I wouldn't have done it now.

I get really bad chest pains and cough up all kinds of shit that would make the blob look like a tuesday night special.

Nochowderforyou
03-02-2007, 05:32 PM
I don't care how other people toke weed. As long as I'm getting stoned, they could do bong hits from their asshole for all I care. Then I'd need my own bong. :p

If people are annoying when high, I simply don't associate with them and ignore them. It has worked so far.

SwirlyMass
03-02-2007, 05:36 PM
If holding smoke in kills brain cells, I wouldn't be capable of typing this right now.

Before recent revelations about the lack of benefits to holding smoke in for long periods, most people held it in for long periods. Coughing wasn't considered "cool" - so we would take long hits and inhale little bits of air while holding the hits in, usually for 15 - 30 seconds. It's probably far less dangerous than living in an area with bad air quality.

that depends on how much you smoke, if you're a 'few times a week' smoker than maybe. even if you're a 'one joint a day' kind of person i think this statement is invalid.

notransfer
03-02-2007, 05:37 PM
im def not a noob and if i was to smoke again thats how id do it..

in the recent past id do that because although i believe you get higher from holding it in, exhaling quickly like a cig will result in a more subtle buzz so you can take more hits..

compare: small toke from a joint you exhale quickly to
huge plume rip from a bong you hold in till the exhaled smoke is thin..

Sweeney
03-02-2007, 05:41 PM
Are we talking about not inhaling? I've seen that happen a few times. They fill thier mouth with smoke and barely let it into the lungs. IF this is happening, then screw the nooB. He's wasting your stash.

This is exactly what i'm talking bout.

notransfer
03-02-2007, 05:43 PM
oh not inhaling....much different haha

kids gotta learn not to waste your stash hah^^

Nochowderforyou
03-02-2007, 05:48 PM
Ohhh okay, yes no inhaling is a much different story.

If this happened to me, I'd tell them to inhale it, and if it's my stash, until they inhale the smoker, they won't get anymore of mine. May sound harsh, but no inhaling it, shit, I might as well flush it down the toilet.

Luckily I never run into people like this anymore.

dark0ne
03-02-2007, 06:34 PM
i just smoke it. If i hold it in good, if not what ever. just as long as it passes the 2 criterea for smoking weed 1. the device smokes. 2. gets me high. Thats it!

What pisses me off is when i smoke with a complainer. "thats ALL the tree you got? thats not gonna get ME high! i need more BECAUSE OF MY TOLERENCE" or they say "we smoked that whole bag, and i'm not high" meanwhile i'm baked as hell. i have 2 freinds that i refuse to smoke up because they keep complaining about weed thats not theirs, and NEVER put in.

Nochowderforyou
03-02-2007, 06:47 PM
What pisses me off is when i smoke with a complainer. "thats ALL the tree you got? thats not gonna get ME high! i need more BECAUSE OF MY TOLERENCE" or they say "we smoked that whole bag, and i'm not high" meanwhile i'm baked as hell. i have 2 freinds that i refuse to smoke up because they keep complaining about weed thats not theirs, and NEVER put in.

I hate complainers too, especially when they don't have any of their own stash. The one that bugs me most is when they have no weed and say to you, "hey, you want to smoke another bowl?" God I hate that! I hate it even more when there's a couple more people who don't have weed, then they expect you to get everyone in the room stoned too, then when you don't, they get pissed off at you and call ytou cheap. :S4:

Pipe Dreams
03-02-2007, 06:47 PM
I got a friend I get high with all the time. He's pretty new at it but claims to be tough shit bout it. He always over exagerates how much we smoke. He'll be like how many bowls have we smoked 8? 9? And i'd be like nah more like 4 man. He'll argue with me saying he's positive we smoked that much.

One thing that I notice bout him is when he smokes as soon as he takes his mouth off of the pipe hes already exhaling. I call him on it all the time and he just continues doing it. Anyone else smoke with people like this?

Dude you gotta be talkin bout Jeffey :D

vileoxidation
03-02-2007, 06:53 PM
One summer I was smoking at home and in order for my dad not to catch me i would clear my hits and then blow them into my computer intake fan. It worked fine but after that summer my lungs ability to filter oxygen and even hold smoke decrease INCREDIBLY. It really sucks, I wish I wouldn't have done it now.

I get really bad chest pains and cough up all kinds of shit that would make the blob look like a tuesday night special.

Do you not clear your hits now? Or do you just exhale then clear it and exhale that? I learned to clear by holding it in, so I had to reteach myself to exhale and then clear it.

dark0ne
03-02-2007, 07:04 PM
i just got off the phone with this guy i smoke with occasionaly. He asked me if i wanted to get stoned. i said ya, then he asked me if had anything. After i just told him how glad i was because i have had NOTHING but resin for weeks. he said "i'll smoke resin man, i need to get high." morons! i'm surrounded by morons! any NON-moronic people in MASS wanna get high?

Nocturnal Stoner
03-02-2007, 07:06 PM
I don't hold my hits at all and i'm not a "n00b", if I want to further damage my lungs and not get any higher but feel like I am because of oxygen depravation then I will, but for now I think I'll pass.

Greenport
03-02-2007, 07:19 PM
no, I hate noobs like you.

no offence but i think you shouldent hate some1 because of what they say.

Breukelen advocaat
03-02-2007, 08:49 PM
When Bill Clinton said he "didn't inhale", he was probably referring to holding it in for a long time - which most smokers used to do.

slipknotpsycho
03-02-2007, 09:41 PM
i thought it was only 95%,,, im probably wrong but i thought i would create a debate on this pointless thread..

you sure you're not getting that confused with the volcano vap rates? a volcano is said to extract 95% of the thc out of the bud..

i looked i can't find the transfer rate... i'm sure someone else will if they can tho.. it's out there i just can't find it o.0