Starting to loose hope

[Metaphor]

I get so disapointed when i count the classic rock, punk rock, and yes even TOOL threads.
There are so many of these and everyones listening to their bands thinking that Pink Floyd is the definition of psychedelic rock. Anyone who likes them would love many of the bands i listen too, but you all have such thick skulls, imediatley dismissing any music that wasnt made in the 70's.
As for all you in the "punk rock", emo, indie, all those various rock genres are missing out on all the good stuff. Why dont you go download some Lightning Bolt or Brainiac. on another note, any of these Kurt Cobain is god people would shit their pants if they heard Smack Bunny Baby.
Fucking Tool, where to begin. there good, yes. there the only band that sounds like tool? NO!! Get off your ass and download some Slint and drop your jaw listening to spiderland. June of 44 is also loud 'brooding' music for all you guys.
GOD DAMN, there are so many rock genres and sub genres that most of you people dont even know about, it saddens me. Everyone that thinks there taste in music is so unique, when there just listening to the same albums from the same time period.
Do the words ShowGaze, Post-Rock, Avante Garde, Math Rock or Lo-Fi mean anything to you????

dont get me wrong, i respect a few peoples taste in music on these boards, but deffinatley not all of you.

sorry for the rant. someone had to do it.

[Metaphor]

another thing. NOT ALL ELECTRONIC MUSIC IS TECHNO/DANCE/HOUSE!!!!!!!! but thats a whole other rant...

[Samwhore]

math rock, whoa! yes, there is different tastes in music, but you cant expect us to like all music can you?

you have your music, we have ours, as long as you have what you like, why does it matter?

[Metaphor]

I guess thats one way to see it sam, and i dont really have a response to that because it really dosent matter. It just bothers me on a fundemental level when people are talking about how origional all these bands are and they dont even bother to look at the roots of the music.

please i know your a tool fan, download Spiderland(1992) by Slint and tell me you dont like it. They got there eerie repetitave guitar riffs and their songs are structured similar to tools, especially stuff like Schism & 10,000 days, (the stuff that starts off soft then builds up over 5-6 mins) Its not as electronicly distorted as tool is, but theres no way in hell you can say they dont rock just as hard. So uhh, can you do that for me??

[Samwhore]

sure, ill do that, if it will download, lemme lookie :)

found some, any specific songs?

[Metaphor]

lol come to think of it Spiderland would be a good album to put in the Funeral Music thread

and if ur having trouble getting it, i can send you it via aim or w/e

[Samwhore]

breadcrum trail is downloading, If I like, I will download more,

thanks:)

[Metaphor]

breadcrumb trail is pretty good, Good Morning, Captain is where its at tho.

[slipknotpsycho]

generally, i won't listen to anything that's not rock, and even more so... anything created before the 90's... with very few exceptions, metallica being the largest one...

i have a certain taste in music and i know where to look to find it... it's not back in the 80's or 70's, it's not in any genre then rock (or some extension of it) some call that close minded-ness... i just call it not wasting my fucking time when i know i'm not going to like the shit...

that'd be like going to one of those idiot pop singer's movies.. you know you don't like that person, you know you don't like what you've seen of it so far (previews) but you go anyways...

[thcbongman]

Great post Metaphor. Someone had to say it :)

Tool, Led Zeppelin, those classic rock bands, "mainstream" punk bands,for the most they're good bands, Tool is a great band, use to listen to them frequently when I was younger.

It's just when you start to limit yourself to these bands that you submit to the power of the mainstream. To a lesser degree, it's like watching MTV to influence your choice. Same with rap, electronica, and every genre.

Not everyone has the same tastes, but that's exactly why there so music out there. There's something for everyone. You have to do yourself a favor and start expanding your horizons. Out there are music that's just unbelieveable. It might not fit to your tastes, at first, but you have to give it a chance.

There's different ways to listen to music. There's music that immediately catches on, and there's music you have to listen to a few times to soak the complexity of the sound, to age like wine.

To counter your quote slip

"that'd be like going to one of those idiot pop singer's movies.. you know you don't like that person, you know you don't like what you've seen of it so far (previews) but you go anyways..."

You can't always judge a book by it's cover. There is so many choices out there, but you can d/l everything for free these days, no one has an excuse to not go beyond their horizons. Perhaps one day you d/led a song that you didn't think much at first, but one day you're sitting back and the song hits you out of the blue. You wouldn't know if you didn't at least reach out for it. I'm aware of the bias within everyone that prevents them from expands their tastes because of preconceptions. You gotta battle it, because if I didn't, I'd still be thinking Kurt Cobain is the ONLY god.

You gotta check some of their b-sides, metaphor, it's pretty damn rockin'.

[Metaphor]

Yeah, sadly, when i was younger i used to be on that Kurt Cobain was god bullshit, but even then it was wayyyyyy before the box set, wayyyyyy before the journals came out and definatley way before all that You Know Your Right and greatest hits albums. I was rockin to in-utero in 6th grade. Sadly i was too young to have ever seen them live, along with a ton of other bands i wish i had.

but you make a valid pont thc,

There's different ways to listen to music. There's music that immediately catches on, and there's music you have to listen to a few times to soak the complexity of the sound, to age like wine.

Yeah most of the music i listen too i had to find one song from an artist that i would keep playing over and over till i got comfortable enough with their sound, then ide listen to their albums. Thats not always the case tho, i love hearing an artist for the first time and and getting instantly hooked. Only a few bands have done that though.

[TheFatKid]

I don't have one taste in music. I like basically EVERYTHING except emo, screamo, Xcore, and country. If your looking for real music, go no further than Scandonavian black metal. These guys do it for the love of themselves. Ildjarn makes shitty, yet deeply philosophical music because he doesn't care what people think. He wanted to make a statement, like Kurt Cobain, but he has done it way more efficiently.

[sleepless]

their rock is not our rock.

[slipknotpsycho]

You can't always judge a book by it's cover. There is so many choices out there, but you can d/l everything for free these days, no one has an excuse to not go beyond their horizons.

yeah actually i do, read back further, it's called not wasting my fucking time... i'm not saying i don't listen to new music... cuz if i didn't wouldn't i still be listening to like one singal band?

i said i know where to look for my music, and i won't go past those boundaries.. new music isn't a problem... it's why bother wasting my time going back in time giving 'songs a chance' that i know (and yes i know, i've given them the chance) i'm not going to like, why bother giving boy bands a chance, when i know the whole time i'm going to want to shove pencils in my ears..
actually since you can get music free and easily these days, there's even less of a reason to give other music a chance.. before it'd be listening to some crap on the radio you hate just becuase you can't fast forward through it and what not.. why bother listening to the crap you don't like just because you don't want to risk missing anything good, when now youc an get all the music you like, and leave out all the crap you dont?

it takes me all of 3 seconds of a song to know whether i'm goign ot like it or not... (not always the first three, sometimes they have those talking intros, or something tha'ts not even like the song really is.. just three secodns of the song it's self and i'll know whether i'll like it or not and it's never failed me, i've never wrongly judged a song..) i use pandora to find new music.. it plays music that is similar to the paremiters i set... and if i don't like the song they choose for me, i can jus tskip it.

[Metaphor]

i hope you play out your "heavy metal" and are doomed to a life of musical bordem. Seriously, that has to be the most narrow minded statement ever made, but whatever theres no use arguing with someone whos as stubborn as you, even if i made you look like fool, ide be the real one for thinking i changed your mind. any further post shall not be dignified by response. (hittin a keg with a baseball bat is totally rad)

[Samwhore]

met, I listened to that song, they were good but I have to get used to the vocalist, hes a little, "squeaky"

[slipknotpsycho]

i hope you play out your "heavy metal" and are doomed to a life of musical bordem. Seriously, that has to be the most narrow minded statement ever made, but whatever theres no use arguing with someone whos as stubborn as you, even if i made you look like fool, ide be the real one for thinking i changed your mind. any further post shall not be dignified by response. (hittin a keg with a baseball bat is totally rad)

lol you misjudge me... you know so little about me, but claim to know so much? :rolleyes: people who assume things are the only ones who end up looking like idiots.. such as you..

i'm sorry your insulted i don't want to listen to men who sound like they have a vice clamp on their nuts, or a bunch of ignorant people who got lucky with their career, saying the same retarded basic lines over and over, and ontop of that don't even use real words... they suck so bad at the english language they have to make up words so their rhymes are just a bit less retarded... or some idiot, who never even seen a farm or tractor sing about his farm, or a 'city slicker' gone country, trying to sing country... and don't even get me started on girly pop singers like jessica simpson, brittney spears or christina aguilera...

and i'm actually a very open minded individual... why bother keep listening to some genre of music when the whole time i sit there and i want to kill myself cuz it is so retardedly horrible? do you sit there listening to every singer/band of a genre you don't even like, just because there might be one song out there? i mean unless you listen to every last song in every last genre (which i can pretty much garuntee you don't) you're just as close minded as me...

btw, you can't just say you made me look like a fool and that makes it true.. dunno where you got you made me look like a fool tho...

[Metaphor]

your the king of this thread. go stroke your ego you fucking mongrel.

[slipknotpsycho]

lol whatever you say.

[InsidewantsOut]

i don't want to get in the way of anything, but i just look at this thread and i see alot of good and bad. I think that both of you are being a little narrowminded because each of you aren't respecting the other person's taste.

Metaphor, i agree that poeple need to branch out more and try new music, because i wish more people would try Widespread Panic, or Stringcheese Incident, or Ripple Groove. But you can't force someone to try something new if they don't want to.

And Slip, i think that you're right that it only makes sense to listen to sounds right to you, but that doesn't mean that you should be so judgemental about music that's different to you.

I don't want to create further argument, i just want for everyone to listen to whatever makes them feel good, because you can't make someone else like something they don't want to

[sleepless]

its like the old mods vs rockers thing, only in text format. brighton beach beware. i like listening to lots of different types of music, punk, metal, blues, psychedelic, stoner, doom, avante garde, indie etc, etc but if i dont like a style, genre or there is something about a band that i dont like you can forget it. im not going to listen to it. if that sound like im blinkered or narrow mindeded i dont give a shit, i wont listen to something that i dont like because someone says i should, and i dont listen to anything to fit in with anyone else either.