View Full Version : How wasteful are joints?
Frank_The_Tank
02-28-2007, 09:01 PM
I love joints. especially when it is windy and all you got is a pipe that takes forever to get baked cause the lighter keeps blowing out. My friends dont like them because they say they waste too much weed. How wasteful are joints?? out of a gram of weed how much would be acually smoked?
rebgirl420
02-28-2007, 09:03 PM
Im not a big fan but to each their own you know.
I think whatever method you are using it seems to be working, judging from your avatar anyway. :stoned:
Pipes can be impractical. But with experience and the right lighter they work well. I prefer not to cmoke tobacco but I do miss a nice sweet ketama J when I am having a beer. I prefer to stay away from that dirty shit though, and i also like to be able to run a few yards without getting a split, I'm a terrible nicotene junkie.
I find humidity can often affect how well a pipe works. I just put up with it and consider myself lucky to be living this side of the North Sea.
I think smoking it in a pipe can be a little wasteful as tobacco ensures that the hash burns at the required temperature.
ValkyrieAg
02-28-2007, 09:04 PM
depends on how they are rolled. I have seen people roll a pretty joint, light it up, and you can barely pull on that fucker and a cloud of smoke rolls off the tip somehow. If your joint can't make you choke, then i would probably think its wasteful.
Next time you are fixing to roll a J, take that amount and smoke it in bowls, then ask yourself which high is better.
Frank_The_Tank
02-28-2007, 09:08 PM
cool thnx but one more thing , how the fuck do i make myself a signature at the bottom of each of my posts?
rebgirl420
02-28-2007, 09:09 PM
Go into User PC and on the side you will see and option for editing your signature
You need to pass 50 before it shows though.
xmordeciax
02-28-2007, 09:14 PM
joints can be a bit wastefull but honestly so can bowls... the only way your not going to waste a bunch of THC is if you go out and get a decent vaporizer....
Personally, joints and blunts are my favorite, but i usually only smoke blunts if i'm with a people, Joints and blunts are an occasional thing for me, cause when i roll a joint or a blunt... i dont mess around 3gram minimum for a blunt... 1gram minimum for a joint.
xmordeciax
02-28-2007, 09:20 PM
i just remembered a study i read about a while back... Supposedly in a study (i dont know the sources so i cant confirm that thier accurate) they found that 95% of the THC in marijuana goes up in smoke... generally the more potent bud has around 15% percent THC, so your looking at a whole lot of wasted THC (unless of course your using a Vape, hten your getting a prety decent amount of that THC
IceNine
02-28-2007, 09:20 PM
I myself am not a big joint fan. I think they are wasteful to some degree but not terrible. like you said it is useful when it is windy out.
I like bongs the best. With a bong, you can control how much burns at a time, and there is no weed constantly burning like in a J. even when passing it around there is a fair amount of smoke loss.
o well, whatever works for you.
newb420
02-28-2007, 09:57 PM
I abosultely love joints!!! I have become very good at rolling and have got it so it does not waste any more than a bowl... but then again as ValkyrieAg it really depends on how you roll them... when I started my joints burned like shit but now I love to smoke them more than anything else
I like to indulge in a good joint every now and then. Puffin on a joint is just fun to me. I don't do it a lot though cause I think it wastes a little more weed than smoking out of a bong or pipe. I usually roll joints with the bottom of my bag weed
orangeman
02-28-2007, 10:42 PM
Joints are not wasteful at all. They aren't as efficient as bowls are but they aren't wasteful. Now blunts are wasteful only if you don't have a lot of weed but IMO if you are by your self a joint would be better to use than blunt.
Nochowderforyou
02-28-2007, 11:02 PM
I don't find joints wasteful if you're with another person. I think joints are better and last longer if you're with a few friends. By myself I consider them a waste as I don't need that much. I only need 4 or 5 good rips and I'm done. A joint gives me like, 15 pulls. I'd be too fucked up after that.
I also find passing a bowl between a few people, the bowl gets hot. Yes, even glass if the glass isn't super thick, so fuck it, I'll just spin one up. :thumbsup:
evan5502
02-28-2007, 11:09 PM
I abosultely love joints!!! I have become very good at rolling and have got it so it does not waste any more than a bowl... but then again as ValkyrieAg it really depends on how you roll them... when I started my joints burned like shit but now I love to smoke them more than anything else
how do you roll a joint that is less wasteful? I think using two papers helps but I dont really like doin that.
skoal
03-01-2007, 12:18 AM
Im kinda new at smoking and i made a pipe using a powerdrill on a block of wood and a hollow pen lol (it sounds crappy but works surprisingly good). I find my stash will go alot longer if I smoke out of my pipe instead of a joint.
hisbiggness36
03-01-2007, 12:46 AM
joints are definitely more wasteful than a bowl. you can use so much less weed in bowls. joints waste more because they naturally burn fast, you probably would need more weed for it, and the weed is in a constant burn. you guys were saying how a joint is good in the wind? i have to disagree because the wind blowing at it causes the joint to burn sooo fast its not even funny. it probably divides the smoking time in half (which is naturally already short with a joint).
soteksguard
03-01-2007, 01:13 AM
If you are bad at rolling joints, they burn fast and you waste weed. Good joints can last fifteen or twenty minutes, though, and you lose less smoke than you would passing a cherried bowl.
I dunno, watch the end of your joint. If there are clouds coming out of anywhere but your mouth, either you should practice your rolling, or get a bowl.
newb420
03-01-2007, 01:56 AM
how do you roll a joint that is less wasteful? I think using two papers helps but I dont really like doin that.
After rolling a while, you will get a feel for the perfect joint. Not too loose, not too tight, not too much paper. They will burn for what seems forever, hit hard when you want them to, and do not waste any more smoke than a bowl. I wouldn't advise using two papers because it just starts to mask and overtake the great taste of your cannabis.
Joints just feel like a waste.... atleast .4 for a small joint, and the joint gets be a lil buzzed. If I took it in one bowl.... I would cough my ass off, and get nicely high. If I took 4 .1 bong hits (nice size) in my 18'' I'd be stoned :stoned:
I dunno joints just dont hit me that well.... well only a large joint.. .7+ or more would get me stoned if I smoked it to my face :)
man i agree with everything u just said. but i dont got an 18" just a 12" so i clear like 2 .3 snappers and get fucked or like 3 or 4 depending on how high i wana get
zalami128
03-01-2007, 02:32 AM
Bowls are way small amounts of herb. Joints suck since they taste like shit, are fragile, run, and hold small amounts of herb. A blunt requires a lot of herb and is the best way to smoke, it's herb rolled in tobacco so it's way smokier than any other way and tastes delicious.
All hail blunts. I just smoked 2 peach optimos and a swisher today.
Matt the Funk
03-01-2007, 02:38 AM
I use to think joints were wasteful, but now that I can actually roll decently well, they are pretty fucking good. I'd say that are about as effecient as bowls maybe more, depends on the roller.
crazyhorse
03-01-2007, 02:55 AM
Joints all the way,I've twisted mother earth's gift since 8th grade, and I can twist quite the party ! Uh huh
jaGerbom
03-01-2007, 02:59 AM
lets hope lip doesnt see this thread or he's gonna get into some arguments.
He says he can make a joint last 45 minutes.
if thats true....that is nooo waste.
RyanTheCaveman
03-01-2007, 03:02 AM
Well i personally lover joints. if i have a fat one to myself i get pretty baked.
bowls are good too. blunts are great.
affasd
03-01-2007, 03:03 AM
I love joints, there only really wasteful and run if you suck at rolling them, i mean im not even really that great at rolling them but mine always work fine, and the amount of smoke you lose isn't really that much at all
Dmo18
03-01-2007, 03:23 AM
joints are not wasteful at all. shitty rolled joints are. with practice you can get regular sized joints to burn for 10-15 minutes. by regular sized i mean .6-.9 (thats regular for me anyway)
Ghettoguy
03-01-2007, 03:51 AM
I like smoking my weed using a bong esp. when the amount of weed is small as shit I also belive that smoking the same amount using a bong gets you times higher then if you use a joint, those gram+ joints are a real waste if ur using regular papers, they burn like hell... :stoned:
soteksguard
03-01-2007, 09:20 AM
A gram of decent weed, spliffed with a little bit of tobacco and wrapped in rizlas should last no less than fifteen minutes, and that's if you're hitting it like a motherfucker. A twenty minute joint isn't odd, if you know how to roll 'em.
Besides, I can't rip a bong in between classes.
tom_mate
03-01-2007, 09:33 AM
The thing about joints is that they're so practical like I can walk around town smnoking a joint in the middle of the day but you couldn't go around hitting a bong or a pipe or whatever.
xblackdogx
03-01-2007, 09:37 AM
i heard joints only allow 10-20% of the thc to get to your lungs, bongs are most efficient allowing up to 75% of the thc through. I dont roll joints b/c i've got so much glass and i do think they waste weed. *tokes from bubbler*
five0addict
03-01-2007, 11:19 AM
if you smoke joints your stash wont last as long as if you used a piece. serious.
idk what you kids are smoking but my buds are almost too good to waste in a joint.
if you got a choice mix it up, dont smoke out only one way.
Nochowderforyou
03-01-2007, 04:49 PM
lets hope lip doesnt see this thread or he's gonna get into some arguments.
He says he can make a joint last 45 minutes.
if thats true....that is nooo waste.
If I remeber right, he also uses about 10% tobacco in his J's. Cannabis joints burn about 5x faster than tobacco, so add some tobacco in the mix, it will burn slower.
ValkyrieAg
03-01-2007, 09:24 PM
Hold on now. I smoke at least 2 blunts per day with my smoking 'partnah'.
While I can pull and fog out a blunt with the best of em, I would never say that a blunt is better than a bowl/bong....unless you are smoking some schwag maybe. But if its dank, I rarely roll a blunt.
My friend rolled 3 blunts to go between 6-7 people and they all lasted 30-33 minutes apiece, which is impressive because really the blunts don't get a huge rest...someones always pulling on them.
I agree with an above post....i can't get heavily stoned off joints.
Pipe Dreams
03-01-2007, 11:35 PM
Bowls are way small amounts of herb. Joints suck since they taste like shit, are fragile, run, and hold small amounts of herb. A blunt requires a lot of herb and is the best way to smoke, it's herb rolled in tobacco so it's way smokier than any other way and tastes delicious.
All hail blunts. I just smoked 2 peach optimos and a swisher today.
LOL @ You for not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground.
idostuff69
03-02-2007, 03:26 AM
I like joints, I like how you don't have to light them pretty much everytime. And I can easily walk the neiborhood with a joint and not get caught, where a bowl is too bulky for that.
coledog855
03-02-2007, 04:10 AM
Joints are awesome b/c you can always get pulled by the cops and just eat a joint.
JustinSKS
03-02-2007, 06:04 AM
I'll smoke a good j any time of the day, but I never really ever spin my own stash up. Not to seem stingy, I mean I just usually pack a bowl or something. I can spin j's up. I've done it. I tend to prefer a pipe/bowl/bong. Whatever, I really do like to switch it up sometimes, smoke a fat blunt or something. Like I bought a half-o one time and we rolled a fatass blunt. It was pregnant to say the least, but it was all good. Fucking stoned before we could get half way...Hahaha.
smitty420
03-02-2007, 10:35 AM
I used to smoke joints to the face... then i moved back to bowls... my new thing is I use mini blunts like garcia vega minis. I roll up like a .4-.5 and its awesoe
Reefer Rogue
03-02-2007, 01:03 PM
I've always seen a joint as 2 bowls worth. As i only need one bowls worth to get high, I'll only smoke a bowls worth. I only smoke from my bong when i'm by myself. When i'm with my friends all i smoke is joints. I can't roll, can't be fckin bothered with it.
BluBerrywidow
03-02-2007, 03:36 PM
thrown some D's on that bitch,
ganjah
03-02-2007, 07:48 PM
I've always seen a joint as 2 bowls worth. As i only need one bowls worth to get high, I'll only smoke a bowls worth. I only smoke from my bong when i'm by myself. When i'm with my friends all i smoke is joints. I can't roll, can't be fckin bothered with it.
You would probobly be surprised. I have a glass pipe which I've had for like a year and it's about 1/2 inch longer than a mini bic lighter and without knowing it if I pack a big bowl it is like .4-.5. If you have a small bowl on your pipe then you will use less weed. I like to roll up joints because if you can roll one up right they always get me higher than just smoking one bowl. I can just as easily pack as much weed in my bowl as I do in my joints and both get me stoned, equally I'd say its hard to distinguish. Although if you can't roll then I wouldnt suggest rolling joints, but if you are intersted in joints like I was, it just takes a little bit of practice and you'll be rollin some pieces of art.
Blood Shot Eyes
03-02-2007, 10:51 PM
its simple just start rolling blunts. its only 50 cents for a swisher mann and its worth it. i just dont get you joint smokers. it makes no sense to me why you would smoke out of such a thin paper. with blunts they burn so much slower and if you can roll a mean joint then it makes sense that you could get nasty wit a blunt. blunts dont be wasting shit if you can get tight. i just like the way that blunts smell and taste anyways. they hit real good too im telling you.
Dr.Hashman
03-03-2007, 12:54 AM
How I do it is I make a bong out of a waterbottle using a bong-converter I made out of a rubberstopper, a 1/2" male to 1/4"tubing adapter, its a perfect bowl, and then I drilled 2 holes in it, have... well.. I'll just draw it out.
I can pack that bowl with about 1/2 a gram and I clear the whole thing in 1 hit using a pencil blowtorch. I basically char the whole thing in 1 hit while sucking really hard. You have to have ice water or else hitting it so hard and so fast all in 1 hit will burn.
I made it with a .99 cent stopper from home depot, a 2.99 adapter from home depot, the aquarium hosing from petsmart costs like $2, have it from my hydro setup, and the ganja costs like $50 an 1/8 from my dealer (good stuff though).
kushy420
03-03-2007, 05:26 PM
damn i love rolling j's and smoking em but i can barely get a buzz off of one fuck i have a high tolerance
hogikiamay
03-03-2007, 09:24 PM
i usually smoke joints or blunts.. and i use my pipe for roaches after i smoke the joint
CChrisgat05
03-03-2007, 09:42 PM
look for cellulose rolling papers if you want a good long joint they are called trip i just picked up a pack of forty and the joint will last 20 mins + pending on how u roll it and how much u put in since the papers are loong and wide
Dr.Hashman
03-03-2007, 10:17 PM
I wish I didn't care about my lungs :( I don't smoke out of pipes, J's, or blunts alot. I only use a pipe when snowboarding and I use a J when I am driving to my friends house that lives 20 minutes down a dirt road lol. It is so fun driving to his house because the road was made by just driving in the desert so much. My favorite is when you have to cross the wash because you can jump your car down into it.
Does anyone know how I can store a J for the road in a crushproof container? I tried using a clean ph test tube with the cap but the J sweats and gets soggy.
Reefer Rogue
03-04-2007, 09:30 AM
You would probobly be surprised. I have a glass pipe which I've had for like a year and it's about 1/2 inch longer than a mini bic lighter and without knowing it if I pack a big bowl it is like .4-.5. If you have a small bowl on your pipe then you will use less weed. I like to roll up joints because if you can roll one up right they always get me higher than just smoking one bowl. I can just as easily pack as much weed in my bowl as I do in my joints and both get me stoned, equally I'd say its hard to distinguish. Although if you can't roll then I wouldnt suggest rolling joints, but if you are intersted in joints like I was, it just takes a little bit of practice and you'll be rollin some pieces of art.
Cheers but I've given up with joints, for now at least. I have loads of friends who roll them anyway. I'll just stick to my 0.3 bongs, getting high every time :smokin:
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