First CFL bagseed grow

[r00tdoctor]

Hello everyone, I am starting a grow log. First since I have been reading these forums for a while (but not posting) I have to give everyone props,there is alot of knowledge in these forums. I been smoking since the early 90's , and have done a few outdoor grows with success back in the 90's.

This is my first indoor grow and first grow in around 8 years, So im a little rusty but am learning alot quickly.

The seeds im using are bagseed for my first grow (I didnt want to kill good beans), but its good quality bagseed. I plan on ordering some better beans (Mandala's Hashberry, Female Seeds ICE and Joey weeds Sugar Blossom or Cinderella 99) for future grows.

I sprouted 4 seeds and they cracked January 1st , even at the first set of true leaves I could tell 3 were Indica dominant , 1 was Sativa Dominant. They are growing under two 6500k 26 watt CFL's. The setup is a little ghetto but it is serving its purpose. Ventalation is provided by a playstation 2 fan. The soil is
walmarts expert gardener with extra perlite added.

Here they are about 7 days old.

[r00tdoctor]

After they got around month old there seemed to be a problem the plants seemed to stop growing and were very light green to yellow with some browning, at first I thought the ph could be off but it was fine, I had been giving them half doses of some old ass peters fertilizer (Later I found out 5 year old peter's fertilizer!).I was about to give up on them and throw them away...

Well I had a brain storm an realised the fertilizer was the problem. So i picked up some expert gardener all-purpose 28-8-16 fert at walmart. Within 3 days the plants were showing much improvement after a week they were starting to look healthy and new growth was happening in places leaves fell off at.

About 37 days old
(pics of them at after 1 week of good fert)

[r00tdoctor]

Now after around 22 days of good fert (2 feedings of half strenght fert/1 day water) The plants are starting to look really healthy again. (exept one but ill explain more about that later)It is amazing how well the plants responded once I gave them good fertilizer. And how badly they responded to bad fertilizer.About a week ago I transplanted them out of those tiny cups into 1 liter containers. The plants were really root bound but the roots were all nice and white so at least I know the roots were healthy. ( I will plant them into 2-3 gallon containers when I flower them in another grow chamber )

About 52 days old taken yesterday.

[r00tdoctor]

The 3 plants plants are all showing female preflowers ,two Indica dominant and the sativa dominant.

The one I call the 'finicky indica bitch' is having problems ever since she was small her leaves get brown spots on them and even after the fert change it still is hapenning even though shes alot healthier now. Also her leaves are curling under and slightly curling around the edges.

The other Indica dominant thats female is growing like a champ and I plan on taking cuttings from her for clones before I flower. Those two both smell alot! like a mixture of skunk,fruit and pine trees lol!

The other Indica dominant plant im not sure but I think it is a male :(

But hey 3 out of 4 plants female aint that bad after all , lol...

So far I have stressed these plants out quite a bit , so ill be glad if they produce any buds whatever.

For flowering I plan on give each plant 2 squre feet in 2-3 gallon pots, with two 26watt 6500k CFL's, and six 26 watt 2700k CFL's per plant for a total of 208watts of CFL per plant.


Any help/advice would be appreciated , expecially about the 'finicky bitch' plant who keeps getting brown spots on her leaves , shes not yellowing just keeps getting patches of brown spots on her leaves. Here is a pic of her see halfway down the plant the large brown spot on her leaves,she gets those quite often. They start off as a small patch of small brow dots then grow until eventually the leaf dies. Sorry for the photo quality my camera takes crap pictures up close.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Wow! You got a good ratio! Good luck with your grow.:greenthumb:

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks Mrs. Greenjeans, I wasnt sure if I would even get a female or even a living plant with the stress I gave them early on. I use a jewler's magnifer to see the preflowers so im sure the 3 are definetly girls with lil white haires commin out the preflowers. I been reading your grow thread its making me laugh, especially when you said "I glanced over at lily and there was her little pube". lol...

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

LOL! I'm so goofy sometimes. Well, most of the time actually. ;)
I had a finicky plant that turned out to be male. I still don't know what his problem was, only that the other plants never exhibited the same symptoms. Have you checked for mites?

[r00tdoctor]

I havent seen any mites, I did have a problem with fungus nats for a while but i cured that by letting the soil dry out more and putting a venus fly trap and pitcher plant in the box lol... I dont want to just trash the finicky plant, because she is a female but I wont be making any clones of her.

[Green Thumb]

nice indicas look healthy
how many watts u got runnin?

[r00tdoctor]

Right now there in a cramped 1 ft length by 1 ft width x 2 sq ft high box with two 26 watt 6500k CFL's.

Soon (within the next week or so) they will be given a bigger space and more light 1.5 ft length by 1.5 ft width x 3.5 sq ft height, and three 26 watt 2700k and two 6500k Cfl's per plant per plant ( 130 watts of CFL's per plant) Ill probally raise the ratio to six 26 watt 2700k , two 26 watt 6500k CFl ( 208 watts per plant) During mid flower.

Thanks ive had to will these plants back into health, sing to them , baby them lol. They were looking real bad so bad I didnt take any pictures of them during there near death , lol. The indica Dominant you see in the right hand side of all my day 52 pics is my favorite, And she already smells great, shes a female and I'll be making clones of her before I flower her.

The indica in the left hand side of the day 52 pics I think is a male but im hesitant to chop him/her down before I know for sure.

The other indica Outside the box in the day 52 pics is a female but is my trouble plant, no matter what I do for her she dosent like it, lol.

[r00tdoctor]

Ok Heres a few more pics of my favorite Indica female.
Just snapped these, Seeing if i could take any better shots with my crappy camera, this is the plant I love the most. Nice smell , has been though hell and came back like a champ.

[r00tdoctor]

She has grown ALOT in the last 10 days since I last posted, prolly doubled in size. So I think she has grown out of the shock I had my plants in when they were young and she is getting real bushy, growing nodes on top of nodes and branches everywhere.

Shes a little over 2 feet tall now, Her scent is very mild compared to the Indica's
I have.

[r00tdoctor]

She is growing at a slow but steady pace. If you compare the last photos I posted of her you can see how much bushier she has gotten from the top view. She smells skunky and fruity. My fiance is always joking I got baby skunks in our closet,lol.

I have them in a temp home in a mid sized box while im working on the flower chamber(they overgrew there smaller veg box) There are four 26 watt 6500k cfl's and two 26 watt 2700k cfls in there "mid" sized grow chamber.) The mid sized grow chamber is 2ftx2ftx3ft. I should be done with the flower chamber within a week.

The other 2 indicas I have are still in turmoil. One of them "the fininky bitch" is still giving me problems acting like nothing I do for her is good enuff, while the other indica Is still not sexed yet. I see lil preflowers but I cant see any white hairs yet and I dont see any "balls" or clusters of preflowers that would make me think its male so its sex is still undetermined...

Within a couple weeks (2-3) . I'll prolly clone and flower these little girls ta see what kind of women they grow into. Im going to take a few clones from the sativa plant I have and also a couple from my favorite indica, I wonder how well the clones will do now that I have a little better grasp of growing them.

Sorry for the picture quality Im going to try and get a better camera soon.

[Nocturnal Stoner]

I think she needs a transplant to a bigger pot, that's maybe why she's slow.

[r00tdoctor]

I know they have out grew these 1 liter pots in like less then 2 weeks. I was gonna wait a little longer to put then in bigger pots, but your right I should put them in bigger pots. Ill prolly move them up to bigger pots later today that should last them until Im done with there flower chamber.

[r00tdoctor]

Ok my plants are in 1 gallon containers now, up from 1 liter containers. Hopefully these containers will last then until im done with there flower chamber. Ill take some more pictures soon.

[INSpectaDeck]

dude i am so jelous of you, , ,them plants look b-e-a utifulll good luck with ur grow broo and thanks for all the help u give me with mine. . .im gonna get some new pics to show u all and i got them bulbs u were telling me about, i also got a hps and im dying to use it, check out y fourm i asked a question directed mostly 2 you so im hopin ull hit me back up on it LATAAA

INSpectah+Deck

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks bro you can have decent looking plants too just keep at it these plants almost died early on. I had to baby them back to health. I plan on posting some more pictures soon , I am giving them a little longer to grow more from a recent transplant before I post more pics.

[INSpectaDeck]

yeah i hear that. i think im jus gonna start them over with the new lights. i looked at them today and they looked pretty much the same so i dident even bother taking pics, i cant thank you enough tho. im just hopin this HPS lamp isent gonna kill my friends electric bill, hes kinda ify on using it, i told him it cant be too much on the bull but i really dont know that lol. i hope he doest weasel out of the whole thing, if he does thers nothing i could really do about it cuz its his house.:wtf:

[notorious P.O.T]

plants looks great so far.. u flowering yet?:rastasmoke:

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks for the complement. Nope im gonna flower soon I just wanted the plants a little bigger first , hehe I want to make sure they take up every square inch of the flower space and im gonna top the sativa also near flower to let the billion side shoots she has shoot up, Its getting close to flower time though.

[GeddaLiddleHI]

that soil you're using, would it happen to be this: http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8257/03100715441um1.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03100715441um1.jpg)

i was wondering because that's what i'm using (obviously) and was told on another forum that it would kill my plants, but it def doesn't seem to be doing that to yours

[r00tdoctor]

Yes thats the soil im using , "Expert Gardener Perfect Mix" i find it to be good soil. It does have trace amounts of fertilizer in it 0.10%-0.08%-0.06% , but that dosent seem ta harm little plants one bit. If your worried about your seedlings getting to much fert to early you could put them in jiffy cubes or use some other substrate until there roots grow a little. Even with those trace amounts of fert you will still need to use regular grow/bloom ferts or you plants will suffer I would suggest starting using half strength fertilizer once the plant reaches the 4th node. I like the soil because its got the dolamite lime/perlite in it and its got a nice texture along with the great price ($2.50 a bag in the usa at my favorite store walmart)

Those people who said that soil would kill your plants probally havent even used it before , or just ran into some bad luck.

Expert Gardener also makes good cheap fertilizers. There Expert Gardener 24-8-16 All purpose water soluble plant food is what Im using during vegg.
/me huggs (((walmart))) lol.

[GeddaLiddleHI]

aw good. i was in panic mode for my little happy plants. coincidentally, that's the exact same fertilizer i'm using too. also, there was supposed to be a comment in there somewhere on yours, lookin good man, lookin very good. And kudos on pulling them back from the brink, that's talent

[r00tdoctor]

Ok ive snapped a few photos of my plants in there new grow area I have right now 156 watts of cfl and a 48 inch floro tube. I plan on adding more lights as the weeks progress (when I start flowering).

These plants are probably gonna stay in veggative stage another week or so.
I plan on taking clones off the 2 plants in the left hand side of the photos below. One is My best Indica female , the Other is my Sativa bush.

The area is in the back of a walk-in closet in a space above my stairs, in a area that was used for storage. The area is quite large 4.5'L X 3'W X 4.5'H I only plan on using 3'Lx3'Wx4.5'H and using a tarp to tarp of the rest when the plants flower. I painted the area flat white and made sure everything was nice and disinfected , I still got my other grow box for vegg/clones and seedlings soon I should be able to harvest every 2 months. :smokin:

First here are a couple of all the plants together, The two plants on the right hand side are the 2 plants I am probally gonna kill the smaller indica one in the back it is so small becase I keep it in a smaller container because I think its a male even though he hasnt shown any "pairs" of balls yet. The other three plants are female.The plant in the lower right hand side is my "finicky bitch" plant she dosent seem to like living.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is some pics of my sativa female.

[r00tdoctor]

Here are a couple pics of my favorite Indica female.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is a pic of the plant I think is a male,im not 100% positive yet is the reason why "he" hasnt got chopped down. Its also why his container size hasnt been raised.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is my pitiful "finicky" bitch indica female. she grows BUT her leaves curl under , she gets spots , Her leaves even curl at the sides making here look like a sativa plant. I think she gots plant AIDS or something. I am prolly still gonna flower this pitiful plant maybe ill get a couple grams off her ,lol. But ill never ever clone this pitiful specimen.

[r00tdoctor]

Another picture of my sativa female plant (a side view) and a picture of all the plants with the circulating fan on them (I noticed there was a huge dust build up on the fan as you can see in the picture , from years of use lol, so I shop vac'ed it off.)

[pennywisdom26]

How did you make that light fixture? I'm trying to build my own cabinet and a cfl setup like that would be great. Thanks in advance. Great grow and good luck!!!!!!!!!:rastasmoke: :jointsmile:

[r00tdoctor]

Pennywisdom, the light fixure is simple to make its made of all walmart parts and requires no wiring (good for not burning houses down lol).

Heres what you need , per 4 cfl bulbs is :
--4 cfl bulbs "GE daylight 100's (6500K)" or "GE soft white 100's (2700k)",this depends on what cycle there being used for vegg or flower. Or you can mix spectrums.

--1 cheap extension cord ( like $1.25 at walmart)

--2 twin socket adapter (like $1.50ea at walmart) (you find these near the lighting section of walmart near timers,light sockets stuff like that) These look like a Y Shape , with a light socket on the end of them.

--2 Plug-in Outlet Adapter (like 1.25ea at walmart) (you find these in the same place in walmart that the twin socket adapter is in) These have a socket that accepts light bulbs that you plug into a electricity wall outlet.

Thats all ,no wiring just its just plug n play , also I got the multiple extension cords taped together with electrical tape.

[r00tdoctor]

I wish the plant that I think is a male would show his balls , Im tired of keeping him around if he is a male. He gots preflowers that look diffrent than my female plants preflowers. But he dont got "pairs" of them yet so im still not positive maybe after I switch to 12/12 he will start bloom quick so I can Know

[pennywisdom26]

Sweet! I bought I few porcelain lampholders at walmart and they are just too heavy. They also cost three bucks a pop so that saves me some money. :jointsmile: :rastasmoke: I'm going to go pick up those plug-in outlet adapters today.

Thanks for the advice

[Dizzy1]

That's looking great for small op! And it's giving me real hope of testing my green thumb. :)
So do you plan on keeping them in that small of a space? If that's the case, then things really look good for me in the future. Thanks for sharing!

Oh yeah! How much of a harvest do you guesstimate you'll get?

[r00tdoctor]

The space there in now as you can see from the last few post is a decent sized area for a small grow ( 4.5'L X 3'W X 4.5'H ) , before this they were in a small
(1'L X 1'W X 2'H) Veg box ( you can see this in the first few post I started this thread in).

Yes the flower chamber is gonna be where they stay During there full flower the space is just about the right size for a few nice sized plants. I do plan on increaseing the amount of Cfl's soon. And possibly getting a hps for my next grow. I have 3 female plants im hoping to get atleast 2ounces. Ive got female clones going from my two best females(1 indica / 1 sativa) and I plan on making bonsai mother plants out of the clones.

Thanks for the complements dizzy.

[Dizzy1]

You're more than welcome!
I'm really glad to of found this place (website), the more that people like yourself share, the better the people, like myself, are going to be when it's our turn to create. I didn't realize how productive a "small" space could be... it's seriously opened up a lot of possibilities in my home. Hell, even under my damn computer desk!

Funny you should mention the "bonsai" mother plant... I remember when I lived with my mom many many years ago, her "man" had a decent Op, about 150 plants that helped fund the local Hell's Angels. Really really long story short, he had a "Bonsai" mother plant. You talk about a ROUGH looking ganja granny. I would swear the diameter of the trunk was at least 3".

Didn't mean to go all reminiscing in your thread, but that's what came to mind! hehe

[r00tdoctor]

Yea small spaces are great for vegging , or even flowering (some people flower in pc cases lol). Like I said my veg box is only 1'x1'x1' and my flower space is
4.5'x3'x4.5' so you can get good results in small areas. I would suggest you have
2 seperate "spaces" 1 for vegging/clones/seedling and one for flowwering , that way you can have a continual harvest and get buds around every 2 months.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Root, your girls look like fashion models, all lit up in the studio;)

Good growing hon!

[Shovelhandle]

Looking Good, Doctor!
I started my last grow with MG potting soil w/perlite,vermiculite, composted manure and peatmoss and I had no growth problems at all.

This grow I've changed the base potting soil to one with no added nutes but I mixed the same ingredients as before with it.

G/L
Shovelhandle

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks Mrs. Greenjeans dunno about fashion models , lol trying to do my best.
I hope your girls recover, and hope you can find a spot for them to have a new home.

Shovelhandle thanks for the complement ,Im fairly sure that the expert gardener soil im using is similiar to mg time released soil. Some people dont like it but its working fine for me. I eventually will move up to using fox farm ocean forest soil and organic nutes , but I needed to get my feet wet since its been years since ive grown.

[KL4D4]

See I wanna add one more light to myset up I didn't realized walmat had such cheap socket's aka just the cord that plugs into the wall.. whatever its called lol

[r00tdoctor]

Yea KL4D4, Walmart can be a cannabis grower's wonderland if your looking for cheap useful products. Im gonna eventually go to a hydro store that's about 45 minutes away from me but for now walmart is my favorite grow shop.

[r00tdoctor]

Just a small update on how my favorite indica female is doing she's starting to look like a bush. She has got some huge leaves on her too.

My sativa female is also doing good , just didnt feel like getting her out for a photo (shes big and real bushy). My 3rd female is still finicky but im keeping her around just to see how she smokes.

How do you all think shes looking , Ive got some clones going of her at the moment (If shes good smoke I plan on keeping her around for a while).

[ThE pRoBlEm]

all of em are beautiful, great grow

[Bree1978]

This looks really good, thanks for sharing the log. That indica looks really bushy...I love her!

I know what you mean about far away hydro shops...sigh. Hey can you show us your clones and what technique you went with?

Again looking good!

:jointsmile: Bree

[r00tdoctor]

Bree , Thx for the complements. Yea that Indica female is a nice plant , not bad at all for a bagseed, im hoping she makes nice potent buds. If so, I prolly keep her around for a long time. Maybe even do a small breeding project with her (With seeds im gonna order) Nirvanna's "AK-48 male"x"My Indica female" lol. I like her alot because she has a sweet citrusy smell with mild hits of skunk , deep green leaves and she is very hardy I dont think I could over-fertilize her , she loves all the fertilizer I throw at her and her node space is really tight.
I can just imagine How shes gonna smell flowering.

Im cloning Using a wick cloner similiar to this

Text (http://www.cannabis.com/growing/cloning-what-is-a-wick-cloner-and-how-do-i-build-one.html)

Simple and easy to make lol.

They (the clones) have all survived and will soon be places in 1-Liter pots in my vegg box.

I'll try and post photos of them in the cloner later tonight. Along with some more photos of my 3 other female plants. I killed the 1 male plant ( I actually felt bad for killing him R.I.P) I kept a couple of his big indica leaves to remeber him by.

Im getting anxious to flower so they will be flowered very shortly ( I wanted to make sure my clones took before I flowered).

As for posting my grow log , just trying to do my part getting people to overgrow the governments of the world.

[sharer6969]

I have to agree with everyone else - I'm impressed r00tdoctor. Your plants look very nice, period. BUT they are especially nice given the (relatively) "minimal" lighting set up.

I think "bag seed" gets a bad rap - after all, if the seeds were from some killer bud you just smoked, that is a helluva lot more "telling" than anything some seed breeding company might tell you about the plant. Unfortunately/fortunately, around here finding a seed in your baggie is INCREDIBLY rare, at least if you're buying "middle of the road" (and up) quality buds. Even the local or east coast stuff, besides the stuff from B.C., is generally bred and raised with good technique (hence, no males or hermies left in crop.)

Oh yeah, and while I like all of your plants (even the "bitch" doesn't look that bad really), obviously the Indica bush you've got going there is the real stunner. Awesome phenotype - it looks like a perfect specimen of the "indica stereotype." I hope it smokes as good as it looks - whatever the case, I'm glad to read you've kept clones, because even if you're not totally happy with the stone, you can at least take a crack at breeding it into something you DO like.

[r00tdoctor]

sharer6969 thx for your insight/complements on the subject. Alot of people say bagseed will produce hermie bud which isn't nesscarily true. Some growers make there own seed stock to plant outdoors and inevitably miss killing a male or two especially if they have a large outdoor crop or multiple crop locations. I know a couple of outdoor growers from around here and thats the methods they use.

The 3 Indica bagseed Plants I grew (2 females/ 1 Male) Was from an ounce of Good green. It was locally grown outdoors , there is alot of outdoor grow bud in my area considering my state has got some of the most fertile soil in the usa. Im not sure of the bagseeds lineage. The ounce I got the seeds out of only had three seeds in it. They all sprouted and the one indica female has been turning out nice.

The other seed (the sativa dom) I got out of some real good trippy chronic I smoked with a friend. It looked like it was outdoor grow also I found 2 seeds in his stash, I actaully made him let me break up the buds to look for seeds lol. Only one sprouted , it turned out to be female so I got lucky.

And about my Indica pheno now that I know more about her needs/wants I think her cloned daughter's will turn out even sexier. And by next grow I plan on having a 600watt hps light to really see what she can do. Well keep watching because the fun of flowering is gonna start soon.

Now mexican brick bagseed might be bad to use , lol. I can get quarter pounds of that for $225 a little seedy but decent looking, not something I would want to take the time to grow though. (Mexi sativas can get huge)

[r00tdoctor]

Ok, I had to update my avatar with a new pic of my favorite Indica lol.


Heres a couple pics of my Sativa and Indica bushes. The sativa plant has minor burned tips on some of her fan leaves because a few days ago I accedently gave her too much fert , I thought I poured the fert in my water container but I poured it into a container that alreasy had fert in it oops! (I was high at the time, mental note: messing with plant food and smoking chronic dosent mix), I noticed the mistake before I gave it to my indica plant , I gave the sativa a mild flush and shes fine and healthy besides the minor burn, Seems it made her get even more bushy too. They have out grew there containers again , I think tonight ill move them up to 3-5 gallon ones , so that means a trip to walmart.

I didnt realise how big n bushy the sativa was until I took them out of the closet for photos, shes got 1000 leaves I think. Shes "big", but its a bushy sort of big , not a streched sort of big. Alot of sativa plants I see on here are more of a tall strechy sort of big. And shes is this bushy and I havent even topped her or anything.

I will post photo's of my little wick cloner later tonight.

Here you girls / guys go:

[Bree1978]

I didnt realise how big n bushy the sativa was until I took them out of the closet for photos, shes got 1000 leaves I think. Shes "big", but its a bushy sort of big , not a streched sort of big. Alot of sativa plants I see on here are more of a tall strechy sort of big. And shes is this bushy and I havent even topped her or anything.

I will post photo's of my little wick cloner later tonight.

Here you girls / guys go:

OH my goodness....that sativa is very large and bushy.....I want to see you flower that....she will be a freaking monster when done :eek:....will you have the room? And :yippee: about the cloner...I want to see it!

:jointsmile: Bree

[r00tdoctor]

Yea I should have the room if not theres lots of tall closets in my house lol , I will snap some photos of the wick cloner later tonight.

[INSpectaDeck]

yo i told u i got mad questions. . .if i was gonna let my plant grow only about 2- 2 1/2 feet. . .how big should the pot i use be?? your plants look lovely by the way. . .i would be very excited

[GeddaLiddleHI]

since we have almost identical growing conditions you're pretty much my source for info/help.

anyways, my plants finally broke soil, except...well it's weird. 3 little...things have popped up. they're like very small stems with a blade at the end. the thing is, they've all popped up kinda far away from where the seed was planted and...it was only one seed. it's easier to just show, so i'll do that. the pics kinda fuzzy cause i used low res to make it smaller, but you can still make out what i mean. basically: what is going on?

[notorious P.O.T]

gedda.. thos sprouts are not cannabis.. the soil prolly had some other spores or seeds in it before you planted the seed... just pluck em out.. and wait for ur seed to raise its might head..

root- plants are looking superb so far.. cant wait to see those beasts in flowering... its gonna look like a jungle in ur closet...lol a great magical jungle..:jointsmile:

[r00tdoctor]

I been very, very busy , But my grow is comming along well and ive been planning for better future grows. I will post pictures soon. My plants have been moved to larger containers and are looking pretty happy even the finicky plant is looking ok.

I will have some decent genetics soon also (even though im gonna keep my best indica and sativa around, maybe to breed with?).
I ordered Mandala's Hashberry , Nirvanna's AK-48 , and Nirvanna's Northern Light's. With my order I should be getting some freebies of 'Sour NLX' beans :
( Sour Diesel x (Northernlights x White Widow) ) with my order also.
I should have those seeds this tues or wed's.
I will post here when I get them and also do a full report of the place I ordered from In the strain/seeds section.

Ive also got a 600watt hps light now from htgsupply (a relative sent me), I still need to get it a bulb and work out better ventalation for that beast of a light. Im probally gonna order a bulb from htg's ebay store in the next few days since they got them for real cheap.

Gedda did ur seeds pop? Just curious.
Notorious they just might be beast when I flower them with a hps lol.

[splatm1n2]

Keep the pics going boss. :)

[GeddaLiddleHI]

actually i pulled those seeds. i got some much better ones and the originals weren't look too hot anyways. the new ones are from a much stronger strain and sprouted really fast. i'll post some pics in a couple days.

[GeddaLiddleHI]

alright i lied. i tried to do this as an edit but it was too late. here's some fuzzy pics. the first one's the "good one" and is taller than it looks in the pic, it's also tilting slightly to the right right now due to having a single CFL (which i plan on remedying with the same solution you used soon) the second one just popped last night. they were both put in 6 days ago.

...they wont' be as fuzzy when i get used to the new camera.

[horror business]

get the CFLs really close, that way it won't stretch, because already it looks really tall, so if it's taller, that's not a good thing, but besides being stretched, it looks healthy so far. Good luck geddaliddlehi.

[r00tdoctor]

Hello everyone im glad your all reading my grow. Im up pondering if the seeds I ordered are going to arrive today lol (I am up early as hell gonna be waiting patiently for the mailman) I estimate they will be here today or tommorow so Ill post about that then. Also I went to take some more pics and I cannot get my camera's battery charger to work so im going to stop by radio shack today to get one. I will post pictures later tonight after I get my charger , It will prolly be late tonight because Ive got a training seminar for my job today.

Gedda ,at least its a cannabis plant this time lol , but fo real it is very streched for being grown under cfl's how far do you have the light away try and keep it 3inches or less but not closer than like an inch at that size when the plants bigger youll be able to bove the lights almost touching the plant.
what wattage of cfl bulb(true wattage not equvilent) and spectrum are you using. Also do you have the plant in an enclosed space because if not you should , that way lumens are not lost . (have it lined white or with mylar)
Just make sure you have a pc fan or something as ventalation because even cfl's in a tiny space will cook a plant without ventalation.

Well thats just a small update , wish me luck with recieving my seeds! lol

[GeddaLiddleHI]

actually i got it in a small place reflected with aluminum foil, so trust me, that shit reflects everywhere, i just need the time to go buy more bulbs, with Tues being my 21st and all, it could be a couple days. honestly, i'm pretty forked right now, apologies

[r00tdoctor]

Well I recieved some of my seeds today some Nirvanna Northern Lights and some freebie NLX. Hopefully Ill get my hashberry and AK-48 tommorow. Heh...

[r00tdoctor]

Heres my females: (all photos taken on 4-12-07)

pic #1 is my "finicky indica" plant shes still a little finicky but she is doing ok.
pic #2 is my favorite indica female she is a lil beauty.
pic #3 is my female Sativa bush... eeerrr tree lol...

Sorry about the crappy quality im tired and didnt feel like doing any more photos tonight , work sucks...lol.

Tell me what you all think... I cant wait to pop the new seeds I got im still waiting on 2 more packs(Mandala Hashberry & Nirvana AK-48) but have got Nirvana Northern Lights and Alien NLX so far , but plan on keeping a couple of these bagseed genetic clones of these around (depending on how they smoke)...

[r00tdoctor]

I havent got the rest of my seeds yet :( hopefully They come in the mail tommorow , im crossing my fingers. Im probally gonna pop a few of the Northern Lights Seeds got this weekend , Along with a few hashberry (thats if the hashberry come before this weekend).

[50ul }{4ck3r]

Looking good r00tdoctor....I wanna see those hashberry's...keep up the update's

[GeddaLiddleHI]

r00t...those plants look AMAZING! w007 to you. and now for a more coherent response than my last: i finally got more bulbs, so that one plant has stopped stretching upwards, even got another set of true leaves for a a total of four now. i'm usign this thing i foudn called an "Ott-Lite Plant Growth Bulb" supposed to be just like "natural daylight without the heat." i don't know a whole lot else about it, but it seems to be working pretty good. lastly, since we're using the same soil and fert, when did you start adding fert to your water? my plants will have been in soil for 2 weeks on tues (at least i think that's right) and i'm still using just plain old H2O. and again, those plants...damn, i can only hope i make out as well.

edit: forgot, where did you order seeds from? i've been having trouble finding places that ship to the US.

[horror business]

r00t: your favorite indica looks beautiful. Well, all of them do, but your favorite is my favorite as well. Did you get your seeds today?

Gedda: Wait until your plant has 2-3 more sets of real leaves, then it should be old enough to handle nutes. Can you post some pictures? I'm not that far behind you, so I'm interested in how yours are coming along.

Peace,
horror business :rasta:

[r00tdoctor]

Thx for the comlements , The second round of seeds hasnt came yet dunno why but they should be here soon. I will email them if the dont come buy monday but I have faith they will come in the mail saturday or monday. Im really wanting those hashberry seeds!!! I want to grow the Northern Lights (I hope nirvana's NL has the deep piney taste I remember northern lights to have) and Hashberry next so im hoping the hashberry makes it to me with the utmost speed.

Geddah dont fert until your plant is on the 4th or 5th set of true leaves,And only then Fert 1/4 or 1/2 stregth. Also fert for 2 waterings , then use straight water on the third. And dont overwater , Test the soil with your finger ( even though I can just tell by sight if they need water) but until you know your plants test the soil by sticking your finger down in it to see if it needs watering.

Work sucks lol that is why I havent been posting as much but I have some time off the next few days so I'll post more and such.

I have been putting off flowering my babies but the time is finally near Ive learned alot , and got the rustiness from not growing for so many years out the way. So soon well see how these girls look when there craving male's.

[stangle12]

Hey root,
i was wondering about your light fixtures. Im looking to get a similar dual bulb socket. do CFL bulbs fit in standard sockets?

[KL4D4]

All your talk of Hashberry is making me very jealous, I also will be curious to see how the NLX. Too bad hashberry seeds don't grow on trees!

Where did you order your seeds from I need to get on that here before summer comes.Hopefully one of the job application I've submitted around town here will land me some $. I just can't justify dropping 60$ on 10 seeds right now when I'm so broke because my mom got into some financial trouble due to being unable to work because of a felony charge. 7k on a lawyer better get that shit dropped down, or she can't work in health care ever again in our state.

Anyways in the time I've spent thinking about it all I found these hashberry grows check em out!

United Hashberry Grow Support Thread. - UK420 (http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=81248)
and
Theory's Grow - Hashberry Utd And Others. - UK420 (http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=81249)

I can't wait to see what sort of monsters grow from your 600 hps system!!! :jointsmile:

[Mista Sparkle]

Your Walmart CFL setup has inspired Mista Sparkle to create another design. I've been thinking about a custom CFL setup for clones/veg for a while now. Imagine the components in the crude image below mounted horizontally to a piece of plywood (covered with Mylar)...

[r00tdoctor]

hello everyone, ill answer the questions as best as I can , though im tired as hell so I might need to go into further detail when I wake up.

stangle12 : the light fixtures can are simple walmart parts 1)a plug in socket adapter ,2) a y socket adapter and 3)normal "medium base" socket cfl's ( yes you can plug most cfl's that you buy in places like walmart into a regular light socket because the bulbs have built in ballast) 4) cheap extension cords it requires no wiring just plug and play lol.

KL4D4: hello again , I got my seeds from aliengrowshop. The hashberry + shipping is about $25 bucks, not bad plus aliengrowshop ships there seeds in the unopened in the original breeder packs which is good because you know your getting the real deal. Heh thanks for the hashberry links ive bookmarked them , and yes once I get the hang of the 600 watt im sure ill be able to create some sort of monster. Im keeping clones of the sativa and my fav indica plant around , and now that I know how to take care of the fininky plant I might keep her around too lol they all are looking nice,alot better then I hoped for when I started growing again. But I will fine tune things as you can see ive been doing throughout my grow, gradually getting more equip / ect . Soon ill be were I want to be in growing , that still some time away but after This first harvest and I have my mothers and start selecting mothers from the hashberry/nl/nlx/ak48 ill be a happy grower. I think im gonna do the hashberry and northern lights first. Dunno but definetly hashberry and something. That was a lil rambling lol but im high so I hope you understand.lol

Mista Sparkle: that will work let me see how it turns out. Im sure you'll be happy with how cfl's vegg plants. Im glad ive inspired someone,lol.

[horror business]

New pictures soon? Have you started flowering them yet?

[GeddaLiddleHI]

k. so my "good plant" is now up to 5 sets of true leaves, but 3 are just starting and still very small, so i'll be holding off on the fert for a little while yet. however, my other, slower, plants has met...i dont' know. when i went in to check on them just now it was laying on its side in the dirt. the top portion, where the second set of true leaves had just become as big as the first, had been severed from the stem. my first suspicion was bugs, but there were no bites in any of the leaves or anything, it had just been detached, so i'm not sure. also, there's still about 1/2 inch of stem sticking out of the dirt, i'm pretty certain this plant is now dead, but just in case is there any chance of new leaves budding from the stem, or do i pull it and drop a new seed? lastly, any ideas on what caused this and how to stop it from happening again? my "good" plant is untouched as far as i can tell.

[horror business]

can you post pictures?

[r00tdoctor]

Man sometimes shit just breaks and luck isnt on your side lol , ive had to work on my car the last few days its been making me not have very much time to post on here but now it should be in working order. First a coil spring broke , and I had to fix that. Then The tire went flat so I put a donut on that,that went flat also lol , so had to go get a new tire today so now it should be ok hopefully.. lol

I did some minor lst to my sativa giant (member invision recommended it to me) nothing major just trying to get her ready for flowering maximising all those side bud sites shes grown , pics will follow. The finicky bitch indica plant isnt looking so bad anymore she's looking actaullty well now. She only likes ferts about once every 4 feedings and thats half strenghth fert. Were as my my sativa plant likes ferts about once every 3 feedings. And my favorite indica plant likes ferts three out of four feedings lol. All the plants got many preflowers on the as they are quite mature plants, and I can tell they will prolly switch to the flower phase just fine.

horror business: Ill post some more pics soon,along with some pics of my clones, and how the whole grow area is comming along. I would rather do it in daylight better because the pics will come out better with my camera. I havent started flowering because with my car probs I havent had a chance to go to walmart/lowes and find a squirell cage fan and piping for the 600 watt bulb as the ventalation I got for it now just wont cut it for the 600watt. Plus I need to make sure the flower area is light proof which I plan on doing this frid/sat. I have family comming over saturday so I will prolly get working on the final touches on the flower chamber sat night. And start flowering them right after that. Ive got the timer, flowering fert's n everything else ready to go though.

GeddaLiddleHI , its hard to say what chopped your seedling down maybe a carpenter ant?? or do u have any children / siblings / mother who could be trying to put an end to your project? hard to say what caused it without a pic then it still would be hard. Yes id say pop a new seed, you can reveg a mature plant with very little leaf structure but that is because it has a good root structure, your plant prolly has a small root structure so id say just pop another seed if it had a leaf or two id say let it live lol but since it dont just pop another.

[r00tdoctor]

Heres a pic off all my new seeds for the people who havent seen the thread I started in in the seed section of this site. I scanned them with a scanner I think the scan came out good.

[DoobieMan]

Hey Doc, wow ur girls look amazing:jointsmile:
Thanks for the tips on chat:thumbsup:
any more pics?
:rasta: :rastasmoke: :smokin:

[GeddaLiddleHI]

yeah, actually i'd say carpenter ants, i know they're in my house. as for someone trying to get rid of my plants, well there's just my mom, and she ate some of the "special" brownies i made on 4/20 with me, so i don't think it's her. anyways, here's the pics horror business requested like...weeks ago.

i figure the plant is a little over 3 weeks now. also, i'm not sure how early you can sex them, but i think it's female based on what i see at the branch splits. that's what the second pic shows, the little (what i think are) female parts that are on each split. if i'm wrong, let me know...

[r00tdoctor]

Geddah your plant is to young to show signs of pre-flowers, the branches havent started alternating nodes yet. There will be sets of leaves comming out of where the nodes are so dont be suprised by that, thats where there preflowers will also be when the plant is mature enuff to show preflowers or when you flower. Those lil spur things you think are preflowers thats showing in the second picture showing near the top node set are on both plant sexes and are not preflowers.

Thx doobieman, and others who want to see more pics, I will post pics soon, at the moment im having hps lighting trouble (posted about it in the indoor lighting section) and it is stressing me out hopefully monday when my new bulb comes ill post good news along with lots of pictures. My Girls are huge now and if it wasnt for my hps light problems would be in flower already hopefully it will be solved on monday.

[r00tdoctor]

Ok I got my new bulb and it works.! The other bulb must have been faulty so now I got 55,000 additional lumens of budding power. My lil (big) girls are finally going into 12/12 today. I am so glad it was just a faulty bulb and not a faulty ballast. lol well ill post tonight so stay tuned.

[Scarlet Sky]

hope it goes well; if you have starting probs again, post; could be one of several things, most of them quick fixes. here's a good wiring diy and diagram too, just in case...

How to wire your own Marijuana Grow lights &Save Money & Wiring 2 Rooms With 1 Ballast, (http://www.onlinepot.org/grow/wiringlights.htm)

[r00tdoctor]

Scarlet Sky Thanks for the diagram. Im hoping it was just a faulty bulb and not a ballast prob, but thanks for the diagram. I actaully had it all apart seeing if there was any loose connections.Im glad this bulb works lol. Its like having the sun in my grow area lol. Right now there is a 400watt hps 55,000 lumens , plus 150watt's of cfls about 10,000 lumens. 65,000 lumen's total. Not nothing super amazing but its a nice step up for me.

[horror business]

How is everything? Can we see some pics?
Peace,
horror business :rasta:

[r00tdoctor]

Here is a group shot and my new grow light a 400watt hps with a batwing reflector its a 55,000 lumen lamp. Also a closeup of my favorite indica.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is some more plant pics of my girls. Also a couple shots of rooted clones of my sativa bush and my favorite indica plant.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is a few pics of my sativa bush, its got alot of future bud sites.

[r00tdoctor]

Finally here are some pics of my "finicky bitch indica" she isnt so picky anymore and has a nice citrus orangy smell. And also another group shot.

They have been flowering for 2 days now , they all have many, many female preflowers because they are quite mature plants. I am debating on putting them each in 10 gallon containers in the next couple days because these plants are large. I am happy that I moved up to hps , but I still have 156 watts of cfl's in the flower chamber so 55,000 lumens hps , about 10,000 lumens cfl's 65,000 lumens total. Hopefully I have a nice first indoor harvest , I am going to now germ some hashberry and northern lights beans so they will be ready to flower when these girls are done.

[skatin_foo15]

lookin good doc

[r00tdoctor]

I hope everyone is liking my recent pics I posted of my new light and stuff.
Thx skatin_foo, and everyone who has been following my grow which seems like alot of people since my thread has like 3000 some views lol.

I got new news I think growshopalien has sent me more seeds on accedent, lol. I got a pink slip in the mail from there address (growshopaliens) its registered mail which they send some orders out that way. The seeds will be picked up from the post office in a few hours when it opens. Hopefully they accedently sent me some high dollar strain or strains lol. Or maybe there just being extra nice for the original order slip up lol. Either way the aliens rock. Not everyone can say there seeds came from aliens lol.

In other news , I was examining my favorite indica plant. I musta been a lil rough with it when I was setting up the new grow area because one of the lower branches was bent over looked like it wasnt going to heal its self so im making a clone outta that branch and prolly will veg it for only a short time and put it into flower with the girls I got going now lol. The plant itself looks fine you cant even notice that small branch is missing.

Its still tripping me out that I have seeds waiting for me again! lol. Wish me luck!

[r00tdoctor]

I must have have a lucky streak commin because I just got another pack of Mandala Hashberry and another pack of Nirvana Ak-48 in the mail today. I dunno what beans I should pop for the next grow ,
hmmmm im thinking Hashberry and some other strain??????

Ive got (2) packs of Mandala Hashberry, (1) pack of Nirvana Northern Lights , (2) packs of Nirvana Ak-48,(1) pack of Nirvana K2 and (2) packs of Alien NLX , I need to pop the beans in the next day or so because there gonna need time to grow while my current girls are in flower.

So any ideas of what beans I should pop with the hashberry??????

[r00tdoctor]

Well my plants are on there 5th day of 12/12 , and they are doing great under the hps lights. The only thing ive had a problem with is it seems my 2 indica plants really love the extra lumens alot, so much so that seems like there using the lower leaves on the plant to produce newer top and side growths ive noticed that a few of there lower leaves have turned brown and fell off. There is alot of new side growth's on all the plants. And I dunno if I am crazy but seems like alot of the fan leaves are already starting to get some crystals on them. Hope you have all been enjoying this grow as much as I have , and to think the best parts are still to come lol. I am finally going to germ 5 hashberry seeds and 5 ak-48 seeds for my next grow. That way I should end up with 4-5 nice females.

[Bree1978]

I hope everyone is liking my recent pics I posted of my new light and stuff.
Thx skatin_foo, and everyone who has been following my grow which seems like alot of people since my thread has like 3000 some views lol.

I got new news I think growshopalien has sent me more seeds on accedent, lol. I got a pink slip in the mail from there address (growshopaliens) its registered mail which they send some orders out that way. The seeds will be picked up from the post office in a few hours when it opens. Hopefully they accedently sent me some high dollar strain or strains lol. Or maybe there just being extra nice for the original order slip up lol. Either way the aliens rock. Not everyone can say there seeds came from aliens lol.
In other news , I was examining my favorite indica plant. I musta been a lil rough with it when I was setting up the new grow area because one of the lower branches was bent over looked like it wasnt going to heal its self so im making a clone outta that branch and prolly will veg it for only a short time and put it into flower with the girls I got going now lol. The plant itself looks fine you cant even notice that small branch is missing.

Its still tripping me out that I have seeds waiting for me again! lol. Wish me luck!

WTF? Shit like that never happens to me, ha ha! You're grow is hella cool, I like the new light! I can't believe all that has happened in the past few weeks! I'm going to start flowering mine tomorrow! However, mine aren't the monsters yours are. I'm glued to my monitor!

:jointsmile: Bree

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks bree I know I was tripping it ended up being another pack of hashberry and ak-48 , so now I have enuff seeds to last me for a while, considering im gonna keep moms of the two best plants I got going now and moms of the hashberry and ak-48. Thats awsome your starting flowering tommorow , are plants will only be 6 days apart in flower time lol.

Yes my plants are monsters lol , I let them vegg alot longer then intended because I was getting equipment around not a bad thing though it will just mean a bigger harvest lol. Yes my grow has came along alot in the last few weeks alot has happened lol, had its ups and downs but its a great learning experience.

[r00tdoctor]

Well folks I thought I would post a few more pics , since im bored at the moment.

Here is a couple that show what a preflower on my finicky girl looks like.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is some pics I just took of my fav indica plant , notice how it has a bunch of new side shoots growing. It has only got these since I got the hps light so it has grew them quick in the last week.


Also is a picture of the finicky girl plants branch structure.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is a couple of my sativa bush , or redwood tree lol dunno which one it is.

It is absolutely loving the hps light. Shes gonna have like 100+ budsites on it i think lol.

[r00tdoctor]

Jesus I didnt realise how much and bushier my sativa has gotten in the last 6 days since she has been under hps. Compare these two pics side by side and see:

Sativa day 1 under hps: http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/closet-cabinet-growing/133874d1178091610-first-cfl-bagseed-grow-sativafullbush.jpg

Sativa day 6 under hps (5th day of 12/12):
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/closet-cabinet-growing/134436d1178409344-first-cfl-bagseed-grow-sativa-aka-giantredwood.jpg

She has gotten a little taller but shes gotten almost twice as bushy, all that in a week! lol (((I love hps)))

[r00tdoctor]

Just a quick update folks , My plants are on there 7th day of 12/12 and I can finally notice the first signs of buds forming. Seems like there getting smellier by the day , lol. All 3 of the plants got preflower pistils everywhere so im hoping for some nice buds come harvest.

[r00tdoctor]

Well the lil girls starting to grow up. The macro on my camera sucks, but for all of you watching/reading my thread I made sure to take some half way decent macros so you can see the lil buds forming.

All the plants are on there 8th day of 12/12.

First up is a couple macros shots of my sativa girl. Notice in the first picture the glistening of tricomes already starting to appear on the leaves...

[r00tdoctor]

Here are a few shots of my favorite indica girl taken today (day 8 of 12/12) Notice how in the picture showing the whole plant , it has grown many budsites. It has grown all these in the last 8 days since being placed under hps. I will post photos of my other indica the "finicky girl" when my grow light comes back on it turned of for the night while I was snapping photos. One thing I noticed about the finicky indica girl is she seems to have quite a few tricomes on her leaves already.

So how do you all think the girls are comming along?

[horror business]

nice man, nice...

[horror business]

I don't know if you read my posts, but a week ago, I killed all four of my plants, because I was convinced they were male. They had pre-flowers, that were male preflowers. Well, they had a bunch of little "preflowers" but no pistils, and when I separated the preflowers, they formed a "petal".

I'm starting to wonder though, if some of them weren't males, and I'm getting pissed, thinking of the fact that I could have killed some females.

So, when female preflowers show up, do they start as pistils? Or do they start as a little preflower, and then grow pistils?

[r00tdoctor]

They start out as a little tear drop shape things and then get either 1 or two white hairs that can take a long time unless you flower them. Male preflowers usually are not "pointy" like a female preflower and usually come in pairs or more,
you should always wait to kill a male until your 100% positive its male. Sorry about your bad luck bro are you gonna try another grow?

[horror business]

...Well, I'm pretty sure I killed three females and 1 male then... Because only one of the three, had a cluster of those things, and was on a stem. I was 99% sure it was a male. I used a jewelry magnifying glass and everything.

But, the other three, they each had one of those pointy tear drop shaped things, that I assumed would turn into a male like the other, since it kind of looked similar, and I didn't see any white pistils...

Until just finding this out, I was discouraged about ever growing again, unless I had a clone, or feminized seeds, or lowryder, all three of which are hard to get.

But, now that I think I might have had females, I might try again, but I'm going to save up for a hydro system and a grow box this time.

By the way, do you have any close of pictures of female preflowers BEFORE they show their pistils, that way I can be sure of what I had?

Thanks again,
peace

[Bodom Children Of]

lol, thats why you don't kill before your sure.

anyway...r00tdoctor goodluck on your grow

[r00tdoctor]

horror business nope dont got any pics of preflowers that are that early in development my camera that I had then wouldnt have been able to take a pic of them. You really need to wait until there are sign's of pre-flowers that tell sex before you cull your plants. Dont kill a plant unless your sure its male, (that it has at least a pair of balls next to each other)

Bodom Children Of , thanks for stopping by my grow stop back again im gonna keep this grow updated till harvest and smoke report time.

[r00tdoctor]

Im currently working on building a very stealth veg/mother cabinet, with a "kitty liter" carbon scrubber and all. Its gonna be very stealth because its gonna be in a cabinet underneath one of my aquariums in my living room no less.. lol. Will prolly post pics of it when its further along.

On another note I picked up a cheap "soil ph/light/wetness' multi probe thing from lowes for like $9 bucks and it sucked (at measuring ph) so I took it back. There $20 soil ph-only probe is alot nicer though. (Im tired of testing my soild with aquarium test kits lol)

My girls are comming along nicely there now on there 9th day of flower! lol...
The buds are starting to form nicely , hopefully this is a sign of giant colas in my future.

[orangeman]

Nice plants, I sure wish I could have a 400W instead of a 250W >:[. I hope you get a nice harvest, will be watching :). Next time I think you should LST like I did. That one plant looks like if that tall plant grows any more it will be taller the the lights lol.

[r00tdoctor]

Ive got a 9ft ceiling in my grow area so im cool for vertical space. Lol. Stop by often I will be updating alot since there flowering.

[GeddaLiddleHI]

i swear i feel the need to blaze every time i visit your thread, must be them beautiful plants. anyways, need yer help again. since i keep guessing wrong, about when should i expect my plants to sprout their...ummmm, genetalia? and where should i look? at the split of any branches, or at one in particular?

[r00tdoctor]

The first preflowers usually form near the middle of the plant then sporadically in other places , the older a plant gets the more preflowers it will have. The will usually show there first preflowers right around the time the nodes (branches) start alternating instead of forming in pairs. You will be able to spot them at the "v" where the branch splits off, at first they all look the same (like a lil numb)so dont kill a plant until your sure its a male. A female preflower will look sort like a tear drop with a pointy end and grow 1 or 2 little white hair's comming out of it , while a male will look more like a "ball on a stick" and male preflowers will form in little groups or clumps of pre-flowers (you will see male preflowers form more then one next to each other ;first there will be one then more will grow next to it) Dont kill a plant until you see sets of "balls" growing lol. Thanks for your complements on my grow.

[Weedhound]

Nice plants rootD! They all look really healthy and happy. :thumbsup:

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks weedhound,

I'll be posting a few pics today so keep an eye out.

[r00tdoctor]

Hello everyone first Im going to show you all a picture of a rooted clone from my favorite indica plant. The method of cloning I use is very simple , requires no special materials and anyone should be able to have success with this method.

I clone my plants by old fashioned water cloning. I dont use a humidity dome and I dont use root hormones. I just take a cutting and place it in a glass of water (cutting the stem at an angle so theres more room for root growth). I poke a hole in aluminum foil and place that on top of a glass of water and put the clone in the hole. It stays under 24 hour lighting in my veg area. I change the water in the glass every 1-2 days , and mist the clone once daily. Once it grows roots I them place it in my soil. Then I have me a new clone. One thing I like about this method is it has very high success rate (in my trials all the cuttings I have tried it on have grown roots in 7-12 days) and you dont need root hormones or humidity domes or anything; just plain h2o. Also after the first 24 hours there is very little wilt and you dont need to mist very often , I usually mist once a day.

Hopefully this cloning method will help people out who are having a difficult time cloning with other methods.

I cloned this little branch because a few days ago when I set up my flower area I must have been a little to ruff with my favorite indica plant. Because there was a branch that was almost broke off and starting to die so I decided to rescue it, lol.

Here is the broken branch off my "favorite indica plant" that I saved and made a clone out of using this method:

[r00tdoctor]

Here are some pics of my favorite indica plant day 10 of 12/12. She is comming along nicely.

[r00tdoctor]

Here are some pics of my giant sativa bush at day 10 of 12/12.

She is turning out to be a very bushy and beatiful plant, im glad ive got clones of here.

[Bodom Children Of]

lookin' good, keep the updates coming.

[r00tdoctor]

Thx bordom , im really pleased how my plants are comming along. I want to update the photos everyday lol. But im restraining myself to only update every couple days lol. My walk in closet is looking like a forest at the moment my 3 plants are really filling up the closet with a sea of forming buds. lol. Ill prolly post some updated pictures later tonight.

[r00tdoctor]

Ok I snapped a few photos of my fav indica plant , in the process I broke a side branch off my "finicky bitch indica" plant she has so many branches though I couldnt even notice. Its ok though I decided to make a clone out of the branch I broke. I do like how that finicky plant smells though it actaully has the best smell out of all three of my plants , sorta like orange peels mixed with pine forest. So I wont mind making a clone of her ,lol. Hopefully It clones ok since the plants already in flower , but hey I wasnt about to just throw the branch away.


Ok here is my favorite indica at day 11 of flower:

[evertking]

nice looking plants r00tdoctor!

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks evertking , im trying to make my girls come out nicely. Hoping for a good harvest down the road.

Been having all kinds of thoughts for the future of my grows , I am truly considering getting a 1000watt hps and a light rail down the road along with a 9 bucket dwc setup. Also on my list of things I want is a camera with a super good macro thats not too costly. But for now this 400watt hps is gonna work just fine.

Im working on my stealth veg cabinet and also gonna bite the bullet and buy a 6" vortex fan soon (dang they sure are expensive lol) and im building a carbon filter/cool tube. Ive got alot going on but once I get my setup "dialed in" my grows should come out even better.

Oh yea and my plants are now on day 12 of flowering!!!

[Bree1978]

Everything looks really gorgeous! We probably should get together a few weeks after our harvests and share our finished beauties, lol ha ha. I love the stage you are in right now. I personally am a flower lover and find this paticular stage very beautiful and photogenic....see my avatar...!
As always, I'm watching! just to mention as Tony the Tiger says, (your plants are ) gRRRRRRRReat!

:jointsmile: Bree



Edit: the cheapest I found a vortex was at maryland hydro. You don't have to pay sales tax there( I'm sure you found a slightly cheaper one at planlighting, but price it out, maryland is the better price after shipping and all) I got Vortex six inch 449 for my 800w...:jointsmile: B

[Bree1978]

Edit yet again: plantlighting not what i typed in previous post (planlighting)...not the best place but wanted to clarify. :jointsmile: Bree

[r00tdoctor]

Hello again bree , that would be cool to smoke out with each other lol;And if your into girls me and my girl can make it a great smoke time haha. I wondered where you been stop by more often! lol.

That is a good price for a 6in vortex , bghydro is $10 more expensive. Do they ship fast/plainbox? I'll post a more few photos of my plants later tonight prolly.

[r00tdoctor]

Just a quick update a few photos from day 12 of flower , first pic is a forming budsite on my sativa (one of over 100 budsites) , then the next three pics are of my fav indica.

All from day 12 of flower:

[hydrocannabis]

looks good.

[r00tdoctor]

thanks hydrocannabis, was away from my house for the night but my plants look great will post pics later tonight if I have a chance.

[r00tdoctor]

Ok heres one of my favorite indica lil buds forming; day 14 of 12/12.
(The plant is needing watered ; which I did right after I took this picture)

[Rock.Steady]

NICE grow dude!:thumbsup:

[r00tdoctor]

Thx rock , im trying my best to give my girls what they need. There are still alot of areas I can make improvments in which you'll see in future grows.

[Matt the Funk]

Good shit man. Nice seeing them mature.

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks matt , yea they get so pretty when they start flowering. It really brings the beauty out in them.

[techieboy666]

Looking good root, that last set of pics is making my mouth water since I'm out of bud atm. :(

[r00tdoctor]

Here is my favorite indica at day 16 of flower:

[r00tdoctor]

And here is a few more of my favorite indica at day 16 of flower:

[r00tdoctor]

Here is a few of my finicky indica at day 16 of flower:

[r00tdoctor]

Heres a few of my pretty sativa day 16 of flower:

[r00tdoctor]

And finally a couple room shots from day 16 of flower:

[hydrocannabis]

holy shit. your garden looks great.
and your sativa looks like a hotty.

:eek::D:joint1::S5::greenthumb::greenthumb:
:greenthumb::greenthumb::greenthumb:

[Bree1978]

Hey r00t, I wasn't even going to log on today...but then I saw how well that indica lady is doing at 16 days of flower.....WOW! She'll probably be a faster finisher for some quick steller smoke.........Oh, how I love indicas!


:jointsmile: Bree


Edit, although after review, that sativa close up is a mighty fine pic if you ask me!

[r00tdoctor]

hydrocannabis thanks I appreciate everyone who stops in and takes the time to post.

Bree1978 hellooo stranger! I know they are flowering pretty well; even the sativa dom plant is flowering at a good rate. Im glad I took clones off these plants.

[invision]

thats a nice grow man i would never have the patience to grow out a sativa, it kills me as it is.

tell me....how do you like this 400watt light? would you have rather gone to a 600 instead?

im trying to figure out what i want for my next light, i thinking of going the 600 route but tat worries me a tad so im thinking a 400, dammit.

[INSpectaDeck]

very niceeee!!!

[r00tdoctor]

INSpectaDeck thanks ;hows your grow doing bro?

invision thanks; I like the 400watt hps alot I got a great deal on it at htgsupply it was less then $150 (with the bulb+reflector) , but I can see myself upgrading to a couple 600watt or a 1000watt in the future (ill prolly get a dual 600watt for more even light distrabution, plus about 50k extra lumens over a 1000watt). I think a 600 is a good choice for lumen/wattage ratio , it all depends on how much penetration/yeild you want really. Im really happy with how my plants are doing under the 400watt hps. Also the bigger the light the more heat you got to deal with so it depends on what your looking for. But you prolly know all this already lol.

I have been working on my ventalation system as it is ghetto at the moment (but gets the job done for the most part) but I found a nice diy stanley blower mod that will solve my ventalation problems. Will prolly post pics when its completed. Its going to be a cooltube/blower/carbon filter with all diy parts. Going to walmart to pic up the blower tommorow. I was gonna get a $150 vortex , but a $40 stanley blower and $10 worth of parts to mod it seems like a great deal to me, and ive seen people cooling 1000watts+ with these diy blowers on forums (even running them though carbon filters) and still being able to keep things cool. So after I mine set up let you all know how its working.

Keep posting people let me know what you all think! I enjoy hearing from you all.

[r00tdoctor]

Heres a few pics of my favorite indica day 17 of flower:

[Bree1978]

I have been working on my ventalation system as it is ghetto at the moment (but gets the job done for the most part) but I found a nice diy stanley blower mod that will solve my ventalation problems. Will prolly post pics when its completed. Its going to be a cooltube/blower/carbon filter with all diy parts. Going to walmart to pic up the blower tommorow. I was gonna get a $150 vortex , but a $40 stanley blower and $10 worth of parts to mod it seems like a great deal to me, and ive seen people cooling 1000watts+ with these diy blowers on forums (even running them though carbon filters) and still being able to keep things cool. So after I mine set up let you all know how its working.

Keep posting people let me know what you all think! I enjoy hearing from you all.


Just a heads up, that blower will be super loud (unless you build a sound muffling box which I have seen on here). Personally I need to be stealth and that is why I chose the Vortex. Even with it being much quieter than a standard bathroom fan, I still built a sound muffling box.....

:jointsmile: Bree

[r00tdoctor]

Bree hey I picked up the blower before I read your comment; the blower does make some noise but its not very loud at all. Once I get the ducting and carbon filter on it it should be pretty quiet. It puts out alot more air then I thought It would and for $40 bucks I couldnt beat the price. It will be able to cool the hps in the cooltube and filter air though the carbon filter no problems once I mod it to be able to work with ducting. (also if it ever breaks walmart with replace it lol ;walmart owns!)

Here is a pic of my blower for those who are curious. Ill post pics of it tomm after It is modded to work with ventalation ducting also.

[Dizzy1]

Those plants are gorgous, man. Looks like your treatin yer ladies good. :pimp:

[invision]

hope that fan works out for you, i ordered the piece i needed for mine yesterday so hopefully friday i will have it all in place and ready to go.

they look great so far.

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks bro I have been real busy and its been cool out here so I havent set up the fan yet but will in the next day or so. My plants are looking good and I swear my 2 indicas are smelling more and more like northern lights every day , there buds are starting to get a deep danky piney smell. I wonder if there is any nl in there lineage.

[Dizzy1]

And tell us how loud it is please. I saw they have one at Wally's here in town and the price is definetly right at under 40 bucks. I can't spend 100+ bucks on an inline and I think I might smoke out the biggest PC fans I have if I add the 150watt HPS.

[r00tdoctor]

The sound isnt loud at all dizzy , it makes less noise then a box fan. Plus it has three speed settings and with a 150watt low/medium speed would probally work fine and low speed is really quiet.

[invision]

trust me no ones fan is louder than mine, you walk in this room and your like..."dude what the fuck is that"?

one day i will have to do something about this and thankfully i dont let to many people in the house.

[r00tdoctor]

Lol thats funny invision ,makes me think your grow area sounds like a helecopter landing in your room ...

Here is a pic of my favorite indica day 21 of flower for all you folks to enjoy.
Notice the tricome production already , hopefully this tric production continues to the end so I end up with some super frosty dank buds.

[Bree1978]

OkAY you haven't been posting much, I'm hunting you down.

:jointsmile: Bree



Is there a congrats in order????????????????

[r00tdoctor]

OkAY you haven't been posting much, I'm hunting you down.

:jointsmile: Bree



LoL , u really did hunt me down!

[Dizzy1]

Hehe, back a few years ago I got into something called overclocking. You do this to a computer to make it run faster. (very undetailed explanation, I'm saving you all ;) ) Anyway, back in the "day" you either used water or high powered PC fans to cool the processor. I went the air route, In my PC case were (4) delta "Black Label" 60mm fans that spit out about 55-60db of high pitched motor and air noise each. You'd think the computer case was going to hover. And you could hear it when you walk in the front door of the house. Boy I mis those days... not.

Anyway, that fan you got sounds like a winner in my book, if this home made 120mm inline fan thing I'm making doesn't do well, I'm getting it.

Thanks!

[r00tdoctor]

Heres few random pictures of my girls at day 24 of flower first a couple of my fav indica , then a couple of my finicky girl , then a pic of the sativa. As u can see the heat stress my girl had from it being too warm thats why I had to upgrade the ventalation. Well she seems to be fine other then a few fan leaves that are gonna fall off. The heat didnt affect the finicky indica or the sativa just my fav girl but shes recovering so I dont think there will be much harm from it.

[Dizzy1]

Still very good looking plants!

[r00tdoctor]

Yes I fixed the heat problem before it escalated we had a couple of hot days here and the ventalation I was using wasnt capabable of keeping things cool , thats why I had to upgrade. No worries though I still love her.

[Bree1978]

Lookin sweeeeeeeeeeet.


:jointsmile: Bree

I'm staaaaaaaaaaaaaayin aliiiiiiiiiive....

[INSpectaDeck]

yoo doc id say its going pretty swell. . .one all three plants have white pistils on them, two of witch have some small bids growing, as for the other one it seems to be talking along time to grow buds, theres like alot of small leaves growing but no signs of budss im gonna see if i can get some more pix, , , its been hard for me since i dont go see the plants often. ill keep ya posted

[r00tdoctor]

Hey bree I left you a comment on your log , thx for the complement(s). How did your weekend go?

Inspecta post some pics when u get a chance in your log so I can see.

Ill prolly update my pics later today if I have a chance. Till then smoke up my friends.

[r00tdoctor]

Ok heres a small update from day 28 of flower (week 4 is now finished!); suprisingly if the sativa bush I gots keeps budding at the rate it has been I think its gonna be the biggest yeilder; it has so buds forming I cant count them all.
I considering purchasing a small room sized a/c for the room the grow area gets its ventalation from for future grows. During the summer without one is making keeping my tempatures in range impossible. (air can on be as cool as its source).My sativa and finicky indica dont seem to mind the higher temp , but my fav indica does; so to fully see her potential in terms of trich production/yeild I think ill need to keep the grow area at a lower temp. It wont be a problem this fall when temps cool down but during summer heat an a/c is very useful when temps are hitting 90+ outside.

The first pic is a close up of my favorite indica just so you can see how good its trich production is even with its heat problems. The next pic is one of the many side cola's on my sativa , the last two are of my finicky indica she produces alot of resin she glisten's with a resin coating on her leaves.

[hydrocannabis]

well it looks very nice.

[r00tdoctor]

Thx Hydro. And thanks for everyone watching my grow , Lots of views; I wish more people would leave comments but hey I was a lurker once too.

Ok heres a few pics of my finicky indica girl day 30 of flower:

[r00tdoctor]

And heres a few of my sativa bush day 30 of flower, ive had to tie her side cola bud sites up because they were already starting to weigh her down (which is a good good thing lol!) and also to maximize the light bud sites where recieving. She is budding alot quicker and more then I thought she would. She has over 3 dozen "good" side cola sites. She seems like she is going to yeild very well.

[Bree1978]

I like the new pics. You must have a better camera than me :wtf:

I had to chuckle when I saw the sativa's harness! They are such unruly wenches!!! She looks like a huge squid that you are holding captive :D

:jointsmile: Bree

[Rock.Steady]

nice grow.:thumbsup:
i need to get a towel, im drooling all over my keyboard:D

Rock.

[r00tdoctor]

Thanks bree im getting better at takin flicks, the sativas not tooo unruly shes just real bushy and her buds were already starting to weigh her down so I decided to tie her up so she would have some support. Where u been! I never know when I should get ahold of you. LoL Ill take an updated pic of the "squid sativa" tonight so you can see how shes doin.

Thx rock im trying to grow these girls well.

[r00tdoctor]

Just a small update on the progress of my girls;

A couple pic's of the Sativa Bush , A pic of a cola on the finicky girl and a close up of My fav indica's tric formation. All taken on day 35 of flower.

[Bree1978]

OOH, that's a little rich. I did the same thing to mine...gave them too much N because I was loosing too many leaves.

Back off on the nutes....Nice and frosty looking though, my mouth is watering!

:jointsmile: Bree

[r00tdoctor]

I have been a little stong on the nutes heh , but the sativa plant has always been nute sensative. Thx for the compliments again girl.

[Tomthehippie]

Looking good! :)

[r00tdoctor]

Hello everyone my plants are comming along nicely still there on day 54 of 12/12
on there last leg of there journey , I will be updating my pictures in the next day or so. My lady just had a daughter is the reason why ive took a short hiatus away from the site but now we are home so ill be updating soon.

[Bree1978]

:thumbsup::hippy::cool::D:p:4::jumphappy::1baa:

In words, CONGRATS!

:jointsmile: Bree

[r00tdoctor]

Thx bre , ill update some pics tonight when the light come on , the buds are sure getting large expecially the finicky plants ones , also the sativa gots many many large buds , she prolly will take 65-75 days i think, im go to take the other plants down around day 60.

[r00tdoctor]

Heres a few shots of my plants , the first is my finicky indica. The other three shots are of my sativa. I didnt have time to take super good photos so these are just some quick shots. These are day 54.

[orangeman]

Damn those are some buds. I can tell they must be heavy with all the support haha. Nice keep it up! :thumbsup:

[Bree1978]

Beautiful!

:jointsmile: Bree

[hydrocannabis]

how big is UR sativa and the indica. do U have a shot of them at full size.

anyway they look killer.

[r00tdoctor]

My sativa is around 6ft tall and it would be over 5ft wide if I didnt have the branches tied up. My Indicas are around 4 1/2 ft tall. I'll try and take a pick of them with something in the picture so you can get an idea of proportion tonight.

Thanks for all the comments everyone, ill be updating again soon.

[xanlexian]

r00tdoctor:

Unfortunately, I do not pics of my current iteration of my "cabinet" grow box.

I'm being *VERY* mindful of power comsumption. I'm using STRICTLY CFLs for the entire operation. I'm pulling just over 300 watts. It just looks like a mid-range computer running all the time. I'm using solar and wind power to charge batteries that power my fans. Hey, it's a start! My fans are battery-powered and the batteries are charged daily with solar and/or wind power. Eventually, I'd like to run the whole thing off of batteries of some type that are charged by sun/wind/stationary bicycle/waterfall.

Anyways, I've been following your 'grow-guide' since day one. Using your setup as an outline is providing amazing results over here!

So, I'd like to thank you for paving the way to successful growing!

I'd also like to thank that guy on here that helped me out in person with everything!!

P.S. -- Luckily, I started with clones. My first two iterations of my grow, I germinated. First time around, I had a serious heat problem (got up to 120 degrees Fahrenheit!!!). Second time, I had males. The one female, the cat got to. This go-round, clones baby!!

[r00tdoctor]

xanlexian thanks , I hope you continue to read my work, have fun with your growing keep at it and you will be successful.

[r00tdoctor]

Here is some buds I picked off my fav indica today I picked some of the smaller side buds , I figure its around an ounce dry wieght off these few lil buds. These buds have a lot of crystals on them though its hard to see in the pic , and the cut buds have a real "spicy" smell peppery almost.She still has a couple more ounces on her. Plus i figure the finicky indica has 3-4 ounces on her dry, and the big sativa has probally 6-8 ounces on her dry. So I should be having a great harvest in the comming weeks.

[Tomthehippie]

looking sweet man! :)

[r00tdoctor]

Here is a close up scan of one of the fav indicas harvested buds , taken with my scanner notice all the lovely crystals. !

[hydrocannabis]

yumm yumm.

[Bree1978]

Here is some buds I picked off my fav indica today I picked some of the smaller side buds , I figure its around an ounce dry wieght off these few lil buds. These buds have a lot of crystals on them though its hard to see in the pic , and the cut buds have a real "spicy" smell peppery almost.She still has a couple more ounces on her. Plus i figure the finicky indica has 3-4 ounces on her dry, and the big sativa has probally 6-8 ounces on her dry. So I should be having a great harvest in the comming weeks.

:yippee:
:greenthumb:

But also, :wtf: ! You are awsome!

I really wanted the jaw drop smiley...but I can't find it?????? maybe that is from another board....

How is the smoke, have you had any?

:jointsmile: Bree

[horror business]

they look amazing r00tdoctor.

[CRIME IN STEREO]

and to think you were gunna throw them out:wtf:

[MistaGanja]

Damn, nice grow. I have question when they start budding on like day 30 did you cutt out the water to make them easier to cure???, what did you do to cure. Cause my buddy grew some nice budd but eff'd them up when he tried to cure them.

[princedapimp4]

nice buds man. i'm using only cfl's right now for vegging and was thinking about using a 400 watt hps for flowering because i didnt think i would be able to use cfl's to get good size buds, but after seeing yours it has helped me alot. im just worried about the temp rising along with electricity spike suspicion. have a great harvest!

[1stimegrower]

holy shit bro your gonna overdose on 1 bong hit of that
fuckin gorgeous bitch! indica baby!!!!!!!

[Rock.Steady]

where is rootdoc???

that musta been some amazin smoke:jointsmile:

[r00tdoctor]

Sorry for the hiatus, but me and my girls newborn has been a handful and sleep has been rare, lol. Now that she is sleeping though most the night I will be around more often. Im glad I was missed a lil and thx for all the comment's and views everyone.

[r00tdoctor]

Hey everyone; here is a pic of a couple of buds from those plants the one on the top is a cola from my cucumber/grape smelling plant , the one on the bottom is a bud from the finicky bitch indica , who by the way turned out to have the best smelling , best tasting buds skunky,pine soly, danky all around awsome buds and she had a great yeild. I got about 10oz total off my 3 plants about 4oz off the finicky girl , about 4oz off the cucumber/concord grape smelling plant , and about 2oz off the fav indica plant. Thats all dry weight. The fav indica's yeild was lower due to her being overly sensitive to heat.

I still got clones of all the plants (there actually in flower right now) along with ak48,alien nlx,hashberry and northern lights growing at the moment I will go into more detail on that later. I was really happy the bagseed girls turned out so well shows just what some decent bagseed's can produce.

[Rock.Steady]

nice nugs Doc.
congrats and welcome back.!:thumbsup:

hmm, have i been here long enuf to welcome anybody???:wtf:

Rock.

[evertking]

Nice buds! Enjoy the youngen:thumbsup:

[r00tdoctor]

I've currently have Nirvana Ak-48, Nirvana Northern Lights , GrowShopAlien's Nlx and Mandala's HashBerry growing. These pictures are taken at 18 days from putting the seeds in paper towels to germ. I have 4 plants of each going , and had 100% germination success with all my seeds. They will be vegged under 104 watts of cfl's, and then flowered under a 400 watt hps and 156watts of cfl's and (2) 4' uvb 10% floro tubes.

[r00tdoctor]

Ive also got 1 plant of my own creation going just to see how it turns out it was created with a clone from my finicky bitch indica (who i actually fell in love with) that i stressed out with heat and light cycles to forcibly hermie. And that pollen seeded a clone of my grape/cucumber tasting sativa (it smells like cucumbers during vegg , and the buds start to smell more and more like grapes during late flower.) Well so here is my finicky bitch / grape F1 hybrid. This picture was also taken 18 days from seed.

[CharlesWysockis]

i have been following this thread and i am excited to see how the new beans will turn out:thumbsup:

[miley]

Awesome grow man!!

[mark78214]

nice grow keep it up

[smokenss]

nice grow . im using 400w hps and 280w's of 4ft fluros was veging under jus fluros and now moved them to the sides and using in combo

[GodBud]

So whats the latest on this grow?

Peace

[pastetea]

Hey, nice grow.

How did you set up those CFL's with those fixtures, I'm really looking to set up something similar and not to sure how to go about it.

[GanjaGardener]

Wow i just looked through the whole thing and their was a huge change from the start till the harvest... this just keeps getting better and better

[r00tdoctor]

Well its been awhile since I have updated, family life and lack of free time makes it hard to make time to post on these forums. That and being oh so very high off the fruits of your labors makes posting very difficult for me sometimes. :rasta:

The second harvest was done early december all the plants turned out nicely. I ended up with 1 ak-48 female , 3 nlx females , 2 hashberry females and 3 northern lights females. Total harvest was about 6oz dry. But I rushed them, I did not give them long to veg before flowering them so the yield could have been higher with a lil longer veg. I also have revegged a northern lights , the ak-48 and 2 nlx's and will be taking clones off them for my next grow in the next couple days. (I tried revegging my favorite hashberry but she didn't take well to being revegged) so eventually i'll plant some more hashberry seeds)

My best plant's were a tie this grow the ak-48 and 2 of the nlx's were three amazing in terms of ease to grow and how healthy and vigorous they grew. Both strains are super potent knock you on your ass types of weed. The nlx has a real complex flavor with lots of earthly tones to it, the ak's smoke is a little more lungbusting but both taste great. And both are covered in layers of crystals. I also had one northern lights plant I really loved
her taste reminds me of "passion fruit" and she gots crystals and a nice high to boot. The hashberrys are really stocky plants with very thick stems and a strong plant structure. The high is more mellow and great for wake n bakes and smoking if you need to still be able to cope with the world.

On another note my revegging mothers somehow managed to get
thrips! I went to walmart and got some sevin dust and now the thrips are history (((sevin dust is great)))

I have started using blackstrap molasses recently and my vegging mothers seem to love it. Im using brer rabbit brand (the same stuff the 3lb's recommends) funny thing is though the nutritional values of it seem to be even better for cannabis now (im talking about the calcium 20% , iron 25% ,magnesium 25% those are human values) compared to other people who have posted those label information's online of brer rabbit. Anyone with any input on why the brer rabbit molasses seems to have higher calcium/iron/magnesium now ?

[theelectrician]

i admire ur greeness ur walkin it world wide imagine how much juice we use

[r00tdoctor]

Well its been awhile and because of the summer heat I had to break down my grow, but now that the temps are more manageable I have started afresh.

I have constructed a nice flower area in a cabinet 48in long,18in deep,6ft high. It has a 400watt hps and a 400watt mh in it , so approx 133 watts sq ft LOL! Temps are staying between 75 - 82 when both lights are on. The Two Hid lamps are at the top of the cabinet with its own intake/exhaust with glass keeping the heat out of the flower area. The flower area gots its own intake/exhaust powered by a stanley blower/ with a diy carbon filter attached to it. Im Using homemade co2 this grow (5 gal bucket,5 gal sugar,yeast) and pure blend pro bloom (for soil) , pure blend grow, liquid karma , Brer rabbit blackstrap molasses , bat guano, ph up/downing properly the whole nine yards lol. The soil mixure im using is perfect mix organic, worm castings and lava rock. My grow will be 90% organic (hey cant give up some things yet lol)

I currently have (4) Mandalla hashberry, (6) Alien NLX, (4) Nirvana AK48, (6) Nirvana K2,
and (3) Nirvana Northern Lights seedlings 23 total. They were germed in paper towels with ph'ed spring water on sept 18th. Some of the NLX was already showing taproots 12 hours later. Now all 23 are in the cabinet in 40 ounce cups and looking happy. Right now just the 400 watt mh is on in the cabinet but during flower both lamps will be on.
I am hoping for some dense flavorful aromatic nugs and a good yeild per sq ft.

I plan on also making some seeds for the future both feminized (using homemade colloidal silver) and regular. So im hoping to get at least 1 good male out of each strain. (the males will be housed in a "pollen safe" lol rubbermaid chamber in another area once the plants are sexed) with some trusty cfl's.

I plan on ending up with 10-12 females for the flower area.

Sorry Ive been away for spells but life doesn't wait for anyone hopefully old folks will stop by and give me there 2 cents and new ones too lol. I will probably start a new log once the girls n boys get bigger but for now we can all chat here lol.

[hydrocannabis]

some new pix please if ur growing.

[r00tdoctor]

I'll post some picks of the new cabinet and the seedlings in the next couple days. I need to find my memory card for my camera, I dont know what my girlfriend did with it last time she took it to get pictures developed.

[r00tdoctor]

Here's some pics of my new grow cab so you can get an idea of what i'm working with , during veg just the 400watt MH is running , but during flower both the 400 watt MH and 400 watt HPS will be going. The lamps are separated from the grow area with a couple sheets of glass, with there own ventilation. The grow space also has its own separate ventilation.The cabinet is 6ft tall 4 ft wide and 18 inches deep of grow space. During peak flower there will be 133watts sq ft in that bad boy. I tested the lamps pre-grow and am having no problem keeping the temps in range. Right now seedlings are on a platform to be closer to the lamps during growth I will have to lower the platform because I have a fixed lamp position. Ive still got some things to do before I get this bad boy exactly the way I want it but as it stands now when I crank both lamps on its like a lil sun coming out of there, heh.

[r00tdoctor]

Just a quick update my new plants are coming along nicely probably will switch them over to flower around oct 20-25th. Ive been turning on the hps for a few hours a day along with the mh , to give them time to adjust to the high light intensity. So far so good. Ive checked the pH of the soil water runoff a couple times and its staying right around 6.5.
Has anyone who's reading ran light intensity's as high as I'm running them on this grow? (133 watts a sq ft of HID lighting) Is anyone keeping up with my current grow? lol ... I'm sure once the flowers start getting juicy and phat peoples will be lusting over my thread lol.

[Dustox420]

Let me know, Whats cracking about those seedlings im interested in that strain K2, let em know about height per week if your willing to man. :stoned:

[swright1975]

yo dude whas up? those babys look nice as hell. let me ask you a question. i just built me a veg box, and since yours look good , i was hoping you could offer some advice.
my question is. will it work? it is 40 inches high x 50 inches long x 18 inches wide. i am using 4 48 inch floro's. they have 2 40 watt daylight bulbs and 2 warm light bulbs.. the box is big enough to hold 1 mother up to 5 plants total. i plan on having 1 mother and grow 4 clones every 2 months. i plan on keeping all plants no bigger then 3 feet at full maturity.i would also like to know how you hooked up all 6 of you cfl's to 1 power supply.i plan on using 4 150 watt cfl's for flowering. so any help would be great. thanks

[oSecretGardeno]

Still out there rootdoctor? It's been over a month since a post ... hope all is well. Let us know how things are going if you can.

- Secret

[poolo2k9]

my set up is the very same could u tell me how your powering ur ps2 fan i have mine 2 a 6v battery but im sick off buying them they waist to fast
:jointsmile::jointsmile::rastasmoke::jointsmile::j ointsmile:

[fluid69]

my set up is the very same could u tell me how your powering ur ps2 fan i have mine 2 a 6v battery but im sick off buying them they waist to fast
:jointsmile::jointsmile::rastasmoke::jointsmile::j ointsmile:
find an ac adaptor

[Rock.Steady]

find an ac adaptor

x2,

find an old 6 v adapter from phone,computer gadget,shaver,drill,etc
i got a box full o crap like that in the basement.

i bet u could go to 9 v as long as its low amp.:cool:

[ralex999]

Just a quick update my new plants are coming along nicely probably will switch them over to flower around oct 20-25th. Ive been turning on the hps for a few hours a day along with the mh , to give them time to adjust to the high light intensity. So far so good. Ive checked the pH of the soil water runoff a couple times and its staying right around 6.5.
Has anyone who's reading ran light intensity's as high as I'm running them on this grow? (133 watts a sq ft of HID lighting) Is anyone keeping up with my current grow? lol ... I'm sure once the flowers start getting juicy and phat peoples will be lusting over my thread lol.

One of the saddest days in my life is watching this thread end. It's like a novel that you keep waiting for the end, but you never want it to end. Oh well, there are only 3,098 more threads to go....

[Jungl3Jim]

Your Walmart CFL setup has inspired Mista Sparkle to create another design. I've been thinking about a custom CFL setup for clones/veg for a while now. Imagine the components in the crude image below mounted horizontally to a piece of plywood (covered with Mylar)...

Heya MS,
I had the very same idea but have a slightly different design to squeeze as much light in there as possible.
All I did was swap the direction of the lights, basically double the intensity for the same area.
-Peace-

[Jungl3Jim]

and then I click....

OLD THREAD JIMBO!

[no1169nn]

whahh yo I'm going to do the same setup as you! good job, happy toking bro