Foxysox is back in the game!!! =p

[foxysox]

Hey peeples!

I've been on a little vacation from growing, which is coming to an end soon!

So I thought that as I got things back up and running I would document the construction of my grow spaces.

It's all going to be very basic.

I won't be using odor control, as I don't need it where I am.

My operation is going to be a 2-room perpetual harvest with a third, small, room dedicated to breeding.

Soil and fertilizer will be very heavily oriented towards organic supplements and nutrient sources. I may try coco... we'll see.

I like the PureBlend Pro line for basic nutes, as well as TopMax bloom supplement and organic soil amendments.

The plants are going to be pinched into 'BOG bushes' (as my fertilizer guy affectionately calls them), and will be flowered only 7 at a time, in 3 gallon pails, on a 7-week crop cycle, with one bush harvested weekly.

The strains I'm going to be working with are from rescued mothers that have been in exile since I bailed on my last grow.

They include:
BOG Bogglegum
BOG *BlueMoonRocks
BOG unknown (from mix)
PlanB Black Indica
PlanB Smashberry
Rushman's *Toxic Lemon
Spice of Life *Grapefruit mix unknown- nice pheno
ChocolateChunk
Hindu Kush
My own Afghan x BOG medley cross
And a *Matanuska Thunderfuck-derived strain given to me by someone awesome. Big kiss to you cutie!!!!

*=focusing on these as they all carry a trait for SERIOUS hardiness!

In addition, my seed collection has about 30 named strains plus many unnamed/unstabilized works-in-progress in it and those will be grown out and added to the mother collection as I have space.

I'll be getting going on construction over the weekend, and trying to get all my lights back from the 4 corners of the Earth where they were scattered when I bailed.

This log is going to get off to a REALLY slow start.

I hope you guys enjoy it!

[Demeter]

Love it so far! You have some delicious sounding strains going- what is chocolate chunk like? I have a sweet tooth:stoned:

[foxysox]

Most younger growers probably aren't thinking about portability of a grow, but for those of us with some real dirt under our nails and a couple scares behind us, we know how important it is to be able to remove all traces of your grow from your home in less than 12 hours.

When I broke down my last grow it took me 4 full days, and it wasn't a very large grow either; it had just really taken over my whole house and insinuated itself into almost every aspect of my daily life.

I was finding grow items in places I could easily have forgotten about and left vulnerable to a raid... fertilizer stains on the door to the bathroom... perlite under every throw rug in the house... foot-long stems that the dog had been playing with and stashed under furniture for later... papers, books, catalogs, magazines, seed envelopes... scales, hash residue in cookpots, rootballs in my compost heap, trim in the vacuum cleaner, you name it, it was there.

So this time I am going to do it all modular. There will be no mylar stapled to walls or neem-oil overspray all over the floor.

My plan for a flowering grow-pod is pretty simple... it has to be foldable down to a size that you can just toss into a pickup truck and get gone in minutes. My ideas for this mostly involve PVC pipe with the connection fittings rigged with pins so they can be taken apart fast. Then PandaFilm as a cover. Another idea would be to use 4x8 sheets of shower-wall particleboard.
I have to go to Home DePOT and think about it, lol!

Protecting the floor is really important. Not just to protect the rug or whatever, but because you want to be able to just roll up a tarp and have it be totally clean. The heaviest tarp you can find is an absolute MUST for floor protection. 2 tarps is even better.

For a backup plan, I was lucky enough to know a couple people who took over my flowering females and equipment. But that isn't enough. This time I'm getting a storage unit too, although they aren't especially safe, you can buy yourself a little time. Just don't EVER put living plants in there!

These are all things I wish that I had taken into consideration last time around. No one wants to think that they might get raided, but until our rather draconian laws change, it's a hard fact that a grower lives with every day, whether you are aware of it or not, so it's better to be aware and prepared.

[foxysox]

what is chocolate chunk like? I have a sweet tooth
Hey sup Demeter
The chocolate chunk was a gift from a friend.
It isn't something that I would have bought myself... the high is too sativa-ish for my taste... but the flavor is nice.
Earthy with chocolate undertones.
It's a little on the finicky side to clone too.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

:dance: :thumbsup: :rastasmoke: :clap: :1baa: :giggity: :greenthumb: :greenthumb: :greenthumb: WB Foxy!;)

I'm extremely interested in the portability part. I'll be watching this thread closely.
Say, I'm going to be moving soon. Care to advise me on how to transport to the new home without upsetting my darlings over much?

[foxysox]

Care to advise me on how to transport to the new home without upsetting my darlings over much?
No prob.
Keep them protected from extremes of heat and cold.
Avoid weird light changes.
I moved my veggers in OPAQUE rubbermaid totes.
The mothers were only in 4.5" pots, very small, the tallest being less than 18" ground to tip, so they fit nicely in a garden-sized tote.
Flowering females MUST be moved during their dark cycle, very quickly.
Put each one in a double layer of a black plastic trash bag, blow into it to inflate it, and tape it up tight.
Do this right when the lights go out for the last time on moving day.
You now have 12 hours to get them where they are going.
If you miss that window, I suggest that you just skip the lights-on cycle for that day entirely, but DO untape the bag, fluff out the stale air, and reinflate and seal it again.
You don't want them to suffocate.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Righteous! Thanks so much. If you hadn't posted this, I would've f'd up and moved them during their light cycle.

[foxysox]

Well I've been doing a little work around the ol' garden.

And a lot of thinking.

Something I forgot to say in the 'security' post was that it really helps to always have SMALL versions of your prize mothers.

So sure, go ahead and grow yourself some mean trees to take cuttings off of, but keep a couple plants of each strain you can't afford to lose in small pots, clipped down short, that you can throw them all in the trunk in a rubbermaid tote and get them somewhere safe FAST.

I think that planning on only a single carload that you will be able to save is a good call... do you want to save a couple big trees, or 20 different strains?

Something to think about.

[foxysox]

Here's a few pics.
#1- The space that will be used for flowering when it comes time.
It's a walk-in closet that is ~6 feet wide and 8 feet deep, will be lit with 1400 w total HPS. When I scrounge up some lights.
#2- Some of my mothers came home last night! Here they are just chillin' under a MH250 that um yeah, my mentor lent me, lol. They survived everything by being small. Those are only 4.5 inch, 1 litre pots.
#3- my clone dome. It's in the pantry protected from drafts, and sitting on a seedling heat mat. That's just a single CFL. They don't need a ton of light. They are in rapid rooters, clonex, and plain city tap water. KISS.

Oh fuck me in the ear, I can't upload pics yet, WTF!!!!

Anyway when I can, that's what they will be, lol!

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Start posting your ass off. Go to one of the game threads. I'm extremely fond of the Vending Machine game. I'm all cracked out on it.

[foxysox]

Word.
I can post pics now.
And I didn't even have to resort to making rubbish posts, lol.
Here they are.

[Shovelhandle]

whazat #3? Solar pot roaster or something? <G>

no, what is it?

Shovelhandle

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Damn. Like pasta much?

[dusto2k3]

ahhhh yeaaa

[foxysox]

Shov- lol it's an 'altitude' propagation dome.
Better than regular because the cuttings don't touch the plastic and get all narsty.
But I suppose you could roast an um pot in there if ya had to.
DAMN I hate pot roast after having been tortured by my stepmother's shoe-leather-special before my father finally took over the cooking in the house.

Greenjeans- I love lasagne. The 'used food' store was selling high-end, whole wheat lasagne noodles 3 for a dollar. What could I do? I bought a case!

Dusto-----awwwww yeeeeee we doin' a'ight now. :D

[kindprincess]

wow, sounds like you got it going on foxy :thumbsup:

[foxysox]

Word, KP.

Here's the clones- day 3 (or 4? durrr.??)

Some flop, not bad, looks like they are all going to make it past the initial stage where you can lose a couple right in the first days.

Still can't get a hold of the guy who has all my HIDs. Freaking dude won't answer his cell. WTF. Guess it's the risks of the game... but... he got like 100 good sized plants for free plus I paid his ass to put my gear in storage... WTF!

Here's a pic of the little ones.

Left to right, there's Yeag's MTF, Toxic Lemon, some sweet tooth line plant, something else (have to check my notes), and a BOG unknown that was getting really branchy.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

That blows. I hope he answers soon. What's Toxic Lemon like? Sounds good.

[foxysox]

What's Toxic Lemon like? Sounds good.
I never had a chance to flower one but it's a Rushman strain, very sturdy. One of the burliest plants I've seen.
Thick stems, large, thick leaves.
Stinks a bit even in veg.

[Demeter]

Hey foxy, nice to see you here! What you say about the toxic lemon sounds like my ppp - there are two big fat ones that smell stinky already, and they are weeks away from the flower room! I need to build one of those carbon filters- I will see if I can get all the equip at Lowes this weekend.

How do you keep yourself from picking baby buds? They look sooooo cute I want to taste them, but I know I will be cheating myself out of good bud if I do, so I restrain myself, just barely.:jointsmile:

[foxysox]

Heya Demeter!
Damn... baby buds... I used to keep from picking them by having a perpetual crop going... and anyway I'm not a cashcropper, so whatever I grow pertty much goes to head stash, lol... always a bit of smoke about the house!
And anyway I know that I don't like the high too much... I'd rather wait for the buds to mature to that mellowing couchlock stage.

Update on the clones-
They were taken Monday night so this is day 3.5 in their little lives.
The ones that had flopped over are now upright and I predict 100% survival!
Temperature in my kitchen has been in the low 60s all week- this is why the heat mat is a NECESSITY.
It is helpful even when you have better climate control, but I was not seeing 100% survival until I bought one of those little $25 US gadgets, IMO one of the best inventions ever for propagation! (the other 2 being IBA or IAA, and rapid rooters, lol)
wOOt

[dusto2k3]

yeah, i need heating pads, mine take so long to root. It's too cold. The only reason I lose some is if I forget to water...poor little things (-1)

whats this..
(the other 2 being IBA or IAA, and rapid rooters, lol)
wOOt

[Weedhound]

I have one of those little "pot roaster" things but the light is a long flouro that slides through the top of it onto the seedlings. Good for keeping the humidity up etc... :)

[stinkyattic]

Oh those are indole-3-butyric acid and I think indole-acetic??-acid..
Common rooting hormones... IBA is the one in Clonex... that shit is hella tight.
Foxy's setup for rooting clones is pretty standard.
If you are forgetful, what you can do is pour a bunch of water into the main tray that holds the plug insert... not deep enough to TOUCH the plugs, but deep enough to keep a nice level of humidity since the heat from beneath is increasing the ambient humidity via increased evaporation rates.

[dusto2k3]

i use clonex. I have the same domes you have, 2 actuall in action now. I just missed one plug last water. Oh well. Thing is i never let the clipping soak for any amout of time...i just dip and go. Maybe i'll give it a chance to permeate next time. I'ma bum now, i lost my job due to school sched., so my funds to get them dam mats isn't available at the moment.

[foxysox]

my funds to get them dam mats isn't available at the moment.
lol you need to stop buying that expensive arrogant bastard!
Put yourself on a diet of Top Ramen and Black Label for 1 week.
You may die of dehydration, but at least you will be able to afford a heat mat.
You can also be way ghetto about it...get a plastic milk crate. Get a work light. Put a 75w INCANDESCENT bulb in it. (this is the only time you should ever let one NEAR your plants, lol!) Fix it so the bulb is up against inside the milk crate... can you invision this?.. put your prop tray over the lamp. Voila, instant heat. Not the best, but it will do in a pinch.

[dusto2k3]

Hey...how bout this... Throw my ballast under the little table they are on. I'ts make of 1/2" ply, so I dont think it'd get too hot. my "Day" is at night, so it might help with the lower end temp flux.

[dusto2k3]

lol you need to stop buying that expensive arrogant bastard!

Smack yourself.


75w INCANDESCENT bulb

LoL, i have a lot of these, i just replace my house with CFLs.

[foxysox]

I like that idea.
I am currently using my ballast to heat my 250w mother closet.
Unfortunately the little thing throws very little heat... but... word.
I've also in the past balanced my prop setup on top of a pair of shop flouros that were lighting the seedling trays beneath. That was okay... not great... just okay.

[foxysox]

Smack yourself..
lol I smacka you back.
I tried an awesome new local brew.. BBC raspberry strong ale.. not bitter enough for me (I'm a bitter girl, lol) but good. And my head hurts this morning something fierce.

[dusto2k3]

Ahhh, I have this pretty tight brewery here Callahan's, they have a nice Bluberry Wheat for us heffe lovers. Also killer Wings...wed is wing night, .35 wings...BBq, HOT, or SUCICIDE. They can ruin you. Than and Later.

[dusto2k3]

If you ever visit SD, I might even show ya 'round!! ;)

Headache...Fix is Menudo, or some Pho, i doubt you can get either of those where you are. sOrry

[foxysox]

I have family out that way... watch out what you wish for...lol
Wings... mmm... there's a place here called the Hangar... a wings place... amazing... every night is wing night, lol... spiciness from wimpy to 'afterburner' (you know what that is! When you regret it the next morning)... like 20 microbrews on tap.
I never got into heffes, but our best local brewery, Harpoon, makes a great one that I actually enjoy. There's also that Sea Dog blueberry that comes from Maine I believe... amazing... commonly served around these parts with frozen bbs floating in it, like the olive in a martini, but less gross.

[dusto2k3]

Nice, i've hear/had sea dog i think. I like "afterburner". I grow Habeneros...I eat em because I like the high i get from them. A lot cant understand, but if you can get by the pain, they are bomb. I cant bring myself to talk about the morning after anymore...LoL

[foxysox]

I'm reading a book that shov gave me that is a neat bunch of stories by a journalist who travels the world learning about the hot pepper community and culture. It's great!
I grow peppers too... greenhouse in spring... wOOt.
But habaneros I have to be shall we say, discreet in my use of?
No afterburners, thanx.
Although I still can't resist Thai food... yow-eee- gotta take a fucking vicodin before ya take a crap, lol

[dusto2k3]

hahahhahahhahha...One time i was chopping them up for some salsa, and midway had to go take a piss. Forgot to put on gloves or even wash. HOLY SHIT. I was in the shower for like 20 mins. I was trying milk everything. I think Capt was gonna fall off. Holy Shit. I wince thinking 'bout it.

We fuckin chop 'em up and sit there and just eat them raw. I would dare eat a fryed one. Holy shit, i think tha'd kill/

[dusto2k3]

what do you think about putting a heated throw under the trays. It's got a dial...maybe tonight i'll test the tems and see what # is good.

[foxysox]

what do you think about putting a heated throw under the trays. .
Fold it up and put it in something waterproof.. like one of those big-assed ziplocs... just in case of drips.
Or just feed your plants some peppers.
OMG I can't even imagine the pain... you know, in some primitive cultures, if a woman was unfaithful, they would give her the hot pepper treatment... you can only imagine... omg... torture...

[dusto2k3]

wow, thats horrible. You know what though...Surely, those public and harsh punishments served as a great deterrent. Like in Singapore, caning is still practiced. They have little to NO crime...wtf are we doing here in America. I think if a rapist guy knew his dick is gonna get chopped off, or a thief knew his hand would be lopped off, he might think twice. Now they go to jail for a few months and are right back...WTF?

[foxysox]

Sup peeps
It's been a while but I have all sorts of updates!
So this weekend I got busy.
Pic 1: The closet. I didn't repaint (no time, but the paint is a REALLY light, bright sort of aqua)
Space is 66"x18"x8 feet tall.
I found studs for my hooks. You can't mess around with this step. Drop a light, and you have a dangerous situation.
Pic 2: My power strip is up off the floor for safety. I'm using the ballast as a heat source for now; I keep my house at like 60 degrees, being supa cheap.
Pic 3: I put in a shelf for propagation. I've got 2 of these little pot-roasters, lol. There's space for 3, but I'll be getting my New Wave T5 24" fixture back soon and plan to give rooted clones a couple weeks veg time under it just for an extra boost.
Pic 4: My ballast is a great little heat source to make my yeasts happy. That's a little 1quart CO2 generator. It has water, 1/2c. sugar, and a packet of yeast. Shortly after taking this pic I left and came back to find it had totally bubbled over so now it is on a dish. Lucky I caught it before it got the ballast wet and/or nasty.
BTW it STINKS. My dining room smells like a damn brewery.
Pic 5: The solution to my brewery stank problem. Little Trees. Fresh as a motherfuckin' BREEZE.

[foxysox]

Well, after reading bluebear's coocoo for coco thread (Bear - I totally respect your skills! :D) I am sold on the stuff. I am going to try it out and see how awesome it is. I got the good stuff... pre-leached, lower salt content than some schwaggy coco.
Obviously I'll be putting clones in it, but I did an experiment Saturday night (that's what the popular girls do on saturday nights... stay home repotting their houseplants, lol) to see how well my little mothers would enjoy being re-homed.
I started with 2 females, a Yeag's MTF and a Rushman's Toxic Lemon, chosen because they are tough plants, and the Yeag's MTF totally needed to be repotted anyway as it had been in that soil for like 6 months and a couple leaves were showing scorch.
So I tried a couple ways to get as much dirt off as I could.
The MTF got soaked in tepid water, rinsed, soaked, rinsed, until the soil was mostly washed away.
The Tox Lemon just got shaken over the rubbish until the soil fell off.
When they went into the new pots and medium, I spread the roots out and also tilted them sideways for future training.
As of this morning, neither is showing any signs of transplant shock at ALL. I am very surprised because I was a little rough with them.
So here's some pics..
1- MTF needs repotting pretty badly
2- MTF soaking
3-MTF root ball all wet
4-Tox L root ball, dry/shaken
5-MTF in her new home

[foxysox]

What a mess!
I could plant grass in my kitchen, there's so much dirt on everything!
Pics!
1- I got these little waste baskets at walmart for $1.50 each. I drilled holes into the edges of the corners, and on the sides too. That's the drill bit for the job. It's just a 1/2" paddle bit.
2- Breaking up coco bales SUCKS. Glad I have hefty forks. Not like the ones that your future in-laws give you as a housewarming present when you move in with your fiancee who they don't like... you know... where the knife bends when you try to cut with it? Even with a fork it took FOREVER.
3- AWWWWW aren't they cute? Seriously, see how happy everyone looks now compared to the first pics. That's just like a week of better temps, a MH250, and some PureBlend Pro Grow (organic, yummy! The fert smells almost good enough to drink!)
After seeing that the transplant took, I will be putting ALL my mother stock in coco.

Oh! I also started 2 white rhino x papaya beans in rapid-rooters, just for shits and giggles, to see if they are as awesome for seeds as they are for clones. I turned the plugs upside down and made slits with a razor, and just planted the seed directly in there, pointy end down, and put them in a baggie on the ballast. That was the 24th.

[dusto2k3]

yeah , the little throw helped immensley. I swear in the two days or so since i added it ive seen more happen than in the previous 8 days. But what about suspending their growth. Just water?

[foxysox]

What do you mean, suspending their growth? Like suspended animation? Urr? Why?
I just water mine with plain tap water. No problems!

[foxysox]

Headache...Fix is Menudo, or some Pho, i doubt you can get either of those where you are.
Another OW morning... damn you, jaegermeister!
Actually you CAN get pho around here... just not very good... I was a total pho junkie when I was working in Alaska.
My fave fix for a bad hangover is Indian food, the spicier the better. I just had a big plate of chickpea stew and chicken curry. Feelin' better already!!!

[dusto2k3]

What do you mean, suspending their growth? Like suspended animation? Urr? Why?

took 'em too early.

[foxysox]

ooooh.
Once they are done rooting you can put them somewhere with cooler temps and lower light intensity so they don't get too big for ya.

[dusto2k3]

Or maybe just grow tem big enuf to get a clone off of each one? then reclone again?

[dusto2k3]

I dont need them again until 3-25 (current crop wll be driend and ready to start flowering again.)or so. Last time (current grow) it took them like 3 weeks to really start doing anything. The temps were alot colder. Now, its a lil warmer and they are growing too fast. Maybe i should try and grow like 6 out and get clones off of them.

[foxysox]

You need to build a little veg area for the babies! Even just with CFLs, F'real.

[dusto2k3]

i have a little one. But i just don't want to veg. I let my last one go veg too long and now i'm poaying the price. I want to veg only like 5 days or so. Tonight i'll take some pics so you can see the crowdation in the hut.

i have endless 4" flouros

[Shovelhandle]

Back to old tricks...heheheh

Cool. Looking to getting caught up on the messages (and grow log) here.

"Let's talk dirty in Hawaiian"

Shovelhead

[foxysox]

Back to old tricks...heheheh

You know it, Shov! :D

[foxysox]

Well, everything went smoothly last night retrieving the remainder of my moms.
It was snowing and dark - great weather to sneak plants around without being hassled.

Here's some pics-

1- The condition of a plant that has been somewhat neglected in a 50 degree cellar for 6 weeks. It is showing signs of salt buildup, fungus, and new growth is really stunted from the cold. It's a SmashBerry female. Not the toughest strain I've ever worked with anyway, but she should pull through with a repotting, a flush with serenade, and a new home.
2- There they are! All the happy girls! There's a couple males in the back too that were too valuable IMO to kill when I bailed.
3- My temporary flower corner. HAHAHAHA no making fun of me!!! Yes, thats a MH400. My 'real' lights should be coming home this week. Those 7 plants consist of 2 Bogglegum, 2 Black Indica, a Yeag's MTF, a smashberry, and a Hindu kush. One of the bogglegums isn't sexed yet actually.
4- I still need to do some cleaning, lol. And yes, that IS a kilt in the upper left hanging off that shelf. Foxy's a proud Scot.

So today is officially day 1 of flower, starting this morning at 8am when the plants started their first dark period. Most of those strains are exceptionally fast finishers, because SOMEONE is a bit impatient when it comes to her gardening.

I'm going to repot them into coco in a week or so when they are recovered a little more from the shock of a new environment.

Another update is that from the new moms, I have enough viable shoots to do a clone run this weekend... we'll see if it happens... my man is coming into town and something tells me I'm not going to be doing much of anything that can be discussed in polite company, lol.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

ROTFL! "Yeag's MTF is my bitch now!"

[foxysox]

ROTFL! "Yeag's MTF is my bitch now!"
Stinky taught me. :D
Knew you'd get a kick outta that, eh!
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-lounge/96588-lessons-bonsai-bondage-p.html

[kdspecial]

Good to see those plants back in warmer temps...

Good to see you B.SOX fans around in a log format again...

I plan to try smash berry soon as well.

kd

[foxysox]

Believe me, the plants are the happiest of all!
Only 48 hours and they are perking right up.

Update, my rapid-rooter + bottom heat + seeds experiment is going fine, thanx; one little W Rhino x is poking it's little head up so far.

Let's see, that makes...shit, like 60 hours. Holy crap! That's the fastest I've seen anything break dirt, EVER, and that would be even AFTER pre-soaking, and these beans were NOT pre-soaked, they went RIGHT into the plugs dry.

[dusto2k3]

Woot WOOt, maybe they'll show the same vigor when budding!!!

Hey there woman.

[foxysox]

Word Dusto! I certainly hope so.
That cross should be interesting.
The white rhino DID seem to be a reasonably vigorous plant, and according to my somewhat sloppy at the time notes, the cross should have been a papaya male who had a touch of resin to him, and I expect a VERY solid product out of the mix.

[foxysox]

Yeah UGU really has his shit together.
I think that the Nirvana Papaya mango knockoff is one of the best deals on seeds around.
I was told by my local peeps when they were over for a wine 'n' weed tasting recently that I should focus exclusively on growing papaya production stylee, because it had the best flavor of anything they had smoked.
But of course that's not my game; I like ot mix things up, and anyway they have never tasted the SAGE, lol. Or the BOG bogglegum. Both standouts.

[dusto2k3]

BOG bogglegum

like whitney Houston said


"im waiting to Exhale"

Ahahahh, sometime i crack myself up...

[foxysox]

like whitney Houston said..."im waiting to Exhale"...Ahahahh, sometime i crack myself up...

Oh holy shit dusto you are killin' em this morning.

Oh yeah... crack is wack :S3:

[dusto2k3]

Oh holy shit dusto you are killin' em this morning.

Oh yeah... crack is wack :S3:

holy shit, the other day i ran out of boxers and was working on this car and toatlly forgot, and there were customers waling around and shit...Ya know, sometimes them pants are saggin...some said full moon, but i was like solar eclipse!!!!

[dusto2k3]

is that you shakin your little tuch at me or what...

[foxysox]

is that you shakin your little tuch at me or what...
naw... my tucas would break your monitor...

[dusto2k3]

holy shit, my stomach hurts.

[foxysox]

Okay today is SERIOUS DAY.... there will be no mirth, no hilarity, and NO SNICKERING!!!

Actually... forget it... I could use some cheering up... the sox game was less than thrilling last night... a tie (I hate preseason games, WTF!!! What's the point if there's no LOSER!!!) with the Twins, with their skinny, young new pitcher... up against Schilling... should have gone much better... the only good thing I noticed is that Big Papi is lookin' hotter than a tamale this season. BEEEEEEEEFCAKE!!! :D

Anyway no pics, but an update.
-W Rhino x... 3/4 have emerged from the rapidrooters... they went under a CFL this morning and lost their little mini greenhouse (ziploc bag)
-Looked through my plants again and found 2 of unknown sex, a Sweet Tooth and the most vigorous of my Afghan x BOG seedlings, which has grown into a good looking plant, so those went to be sexed this morning. That makes 3 unknowns, because there was that bogglegum too.

-The remaining mother stock is:

2 BOG unknowns
1 Yeag's MTF
2 SmashBerry
1 Sweet Tooth
1 Toxic Lemon
1 Hindu Kush
1 Bogglegum
1 Chocolate Chunk

So I am down to my goal of 12 or fewer mothers, and I'll be adding a couple strains and getting the duplicates into flower soon.

I also have males of:

BlueMoonRocks
Black Indica
Toxic Lemon

Those are just hanging out until I have more time/space/funds to build a breeding cabinet.

Of the clones, the first to show a full mop of roots was the Yeag's MTF, with a BOG unknown coming in second, but still not nearly as vigorous. Those got potted up in coco in 3 1/2" square deep pots, new ones, not salvaged ones like I've used in the past... no more freaking bugs, dammit.

In other news...
I removed the CO2 yeast thing.. whatever.. it just smelled too narsty.
I also moved the heated clone dome back to my pantry, and got the ballast out of the closet, as temps around here have been springlike and my house isn't colder than an igloo with the door open anymore. The temps in the closet got into the mid 80s. Fine now though. That little MH250 throws VERY little heat.
Growth on most of my mother stock is looking really good. There are a couple individuals though who are showing classic symptoms of salt tox and will have their roots washed and get repotted in coco probably tonight. I was just waiting to see if the other 2 took it well, and for the new arrivals to acclimate a bit.
Oddly the worst affected are the 2 Smashberry plants. While I LOVE the flavor of the final product, they seem to want a little more attention than your average indoor plant, and dislike the sort of abuse I've been heaping on them.

[Shovelhandle]

you get preseason games? That sucks. I can't afford the cables or anything like that. What to do, what to do???

Anyhow, I enjoyed reading your update, Foxy

Go Sox!

"Saladmaster!" (banging pots together...)

[foxysox]

you get preseason games? That sucks. I can't afford the cables or anything like that. ....

"Saladmaster!" (banging pots together...)

Naw I don't have cable, I have to go out to the bars... I'm lucky enough to live near a cool indoor country club/sports bar where they have golf simulators and all that good shit. And drinks are still pretty cheap. And they don't mind if you order take-out from somewhere else!

Saladmaster????

[Shovelhandle]

lol Childhood memory...Boston
WBZ TV spnsor of the early morning shows way back in the 50s and 60s. Top quality cookware they would demonstrate how tough it was by having a chef bang two pots together, the Saladmaster pot would cave the living shit outta the "other" pots and pans. <G>

tough day...

Shovelmaster

[foxysox]

lol Childhood memory...Boston
WBZ TV spnsor of the early morning shows way back in the 50s and 60s. AAAAH I get it!!! lol
Hope your evening is relaxing anyway!!!
:D
Spend some time with the little woman... smoke some bubblegum... get outta the work boots.... dream about the spring!!!!
Awww, yeah.

[foxysox]

Update... all 4 W Rhino x seedlings are doing fine... roots already poking out of plug... no signs of nute problems... will use rapidrooters for seeds from now on.

Took another ~20 clones from my girlies... some from the first batch are lagging behind but most are ready; I've got 2 pot-roasters anyway so it is not a big deal... I think I'll get in the habit of taking some cuts every week.

I'm expecting a package from Canada in the mail today... mmmm.... BOG SourBubble BX3... thx kd...you rock. Those will be getting popped this week. That strain is a total FREAK of crazy flavor and frost, bred from a pheno of Bogglegum, which I already work with, and which is no slouch! It clones easily too, bonus.

I feel like shit this morning...uuuuuuggghhhh my peeps and I put a hurtin on a couple bottles of shiraz last night.... I got to try out some other local homegrown too... WOW... ima go crawl under my desk and take a nap.

[Scarlet Sky]

foxy, i need your help...

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-lounge/105866-bluebear-ones-you.html#post1291852

also some details in the women's war... hey, do you have stinky's email? i bet she would know...

[foxysox]

foxy, i need your help...
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-lounge/105866-bluebear-ones-you.html#post1291852
also some details in the women's war... hey, do you have stinky's email? i bet she would know...
tracking.... tracking... yeah I'll send her over there, lol =p

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, foxy. How's things?

I demand more pictures! At once! :D


Hope things are well. Looks like they are, but I gotta see for sure! :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

Hey, foxy. How's things?
I demand more pictures! At once! :D


Geez, okay, okay!!!
Pics for our favorite f[r]oggy.
Here's a 'what not to do' pic!!!
This girlie has survived 6 weeks in a 50 degree cellar, been overwatered by her plantsitter, also underwatered, is suffering major lockouts as well, and is rootbound as all get-out.
She's a ~6 month old Plan B Smashberry that has been chopped for clones 4 times and not repotted since, oh, October of 2006.
So last night she got a good flushing and will be given a new home this weekend- if she shows signs of recovery, she'll be flowered next month.
This strain takes poorly to abuse and I would not recommend it for a nOOb. Other plants in my garden that have been subjected to the same treatment are still looking pretty good, considering.
In other news... my BOG SourBubble BX3 arrived safely... beautifully packaged by a clever fellow grower... I moistened the beans this morning, just 4 of them, directly into rapidrooters. The test I did with the White Rhino X went fine (lost one that decided to grow INTO the middle of the CFL, damn I need to get my T5 fixture back, lol!) and the remaining 3 seedliings are now in coco.

[TheGreenFog]

Wow, that's one jacked up plant. I'm sure you'll bring her back, though. :)

Thanks for the pic, albeit grainy and bright as hell. ;)


Just goes to show how much abuse they can take, though. :thumbsup:


Your sig made me LOL. Ha.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

Wow, that's one jacked up plant. I'm sure you'll bring her back, though.:

Ugh I'm not even sure if I want to bother... I have clones off her... she might get culled as a waste of space.

Updates,
I started 4 Bogglegum x BlueJay (BGG X BJ) and 4 BlueMoonRocks x ??? (BMR X)-accidental pollination, not many seeds, like 8 on the whole plant, but suspect it was blown onto that plant when I did my Papaya F2 cross... oops!
It should be good either way, as both are strong plants with very solid growth characteristics, flavorful, and strong.

In the flower room, things are looking nice. I'm not to the cottonball buds stage yet, but pistil production is picking up! I've got MH400 + HPS400 lighting a space that is only 2x3 feet... will be changed this weekend when I replace the bulb on my HPS1000 but for now, whatever; it's still early in the game.

[foxysox]

I demand more pictures! At once! :
A peace offering to the f[r]og... some fresh pics:
-My 2 'pot-roaster' clone setup, that cycles weekly, 20 cuttings a week, giving each group 14 days to grow good roots... they root well enough in that time that I have not had any humidity shock taking them out from under the domes, even without slow acclimation as is typically good practice
-here's where they go after!! It's only temporary... I lent my t5 to a friend... buying a new one Monday, maybe the *sigh* 4-footer!!!
-a closeup of the plant that is about to get culled. I'm really leaning towards root-rot on this one, on top of all the other shit... there's no hope for it really in this case, as the plant is already so stressed! Moral of this story, you got a strain you love, keep 2 mothers! It's all good, she's backed up by several clones.
-this is how I'm starting seeds to go into coco, 4 at a time, in rapidrooters, in a tupperware, then in a labelled baggie, set on top of a ballast that runs 24/0 for constant, gentle heat.
-here's their next home, 3" pots in a bed of coco fibre. I know those CFLs suck!! hush up!!! I'm redoing the grow room this coming week.

[dusto2k3]

too bad your pics aren't as cool as you!! ;)

[foxysox]

HEY SHUT UP WITH YOUR MANLY ESSENCE!!!!! BOOOOO!!!!!
Why don't you go piss up a rope, and then send me $150 to get something better than the stupid 1.3 megapixel JOKE I bought at walmart out of sheer desperation, that only holds a battery charge for long enough to take like 6 pics, even though I bought the memory upgrade to HOLD like 100!!!! FUCK!!!!!

edit: I still <3 you, you JERK

[dusto2k3]

LoL, I tried pissing up a rope but it came back down on me.. :( I can afford like .25 cents a day, like those commercials.

You made my morning!!! (still 1045 and i got a midterm in like 15 and in stoned as hell...dam 4'er)


STill ROTFLMAO

[foxysox]

LoL, I tried pissing up a rope but it came back down on me.. :( I can afford like .25 cents a day, like those commercials.
You made my morning!!! (still 1045 and i got a midterm in like 15 and in stoned as hell...dam 4'er)

Well then why don't you take a long walk off a short pier instead?
Well, go de-golden-self-shower yerself and good luck on that midterm!!!!

[TheGreenFog]

Thanks for the peace offering! Good pics!...(although I kinda have to agree with Dusto about the quality of them)

Hope to see some more soon!


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

I'm only posting with a quick update.
I put another Yeag's MTF and a Sweet Tooth into flower last night. They are both retired moms about a foot tall with a foot canopy spread, pruned to 4-6 main growing tips each.
I've got another small batch of clones going, no big deal, just a few each of Toxic Lemon, Yeag'sMTF, and Bogglegum.
Seedlings are fine albeit stretched from the poor lighting I had before. There are a couple new ones too, some bagseed from some amazing smoke that my man picked up in a club when he was in Atlanta recently... Fulton County's finest, lol. We'll see how those turn out.
The lights shown in the previous pics are gone- now there's aMH 250 over the rooted clones and seedlings, and a MH400 over the moms. I still don't have my damned T5 fixture back yet.
Flowering is going fine; I repotted the plants at different times and the ones that were repotted earliest of course have the most growth, including bud growht.
That Bogglegum that had been re-vegged is smelling so good I can't get over it- candy sweet- like sour hard fruit candies- mmmm. Bud denisty sucks because she was re-vegged and I'm monitoring very closely for herms.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

CFLs do not suck. They are the best thing poor potsmokers ever had next to Ramen.

My freaky ass weed was vegged on CFLs. I heart them. Matter of fact, it was CFLs that led me to Cdot. Bob Bong's thread about his CFL grow pops up on Google. I read that, and the rest, as they say, is history.

Papi wants me to quit looking for a job and grow dope fulltime.
We have a winner!

[stinkyattic]

CFLs do not suck. They are the best thing poor potsmokers ever had next to Ramen.
lol @ ramen.
CfLs are fine but those- did you notice they were pinkish? Not the nice cool white ones- foxy just went around her house ripping bulbs out of fixtures because she was expecting to get her T5 back MUCH sooner but her neighbor was trying to do his veggie starts under it!
(she told me herself)

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Ohhh, I feel for Foxy. Tell her to tell her neighbor to buy his own doggone T5, since he makes a dollar for every 73 cents that Foxy makes. Stoopid penis-havers.

I have email to return. ;)I haven't forgotten. Just had a doc appt about my stupid hand. Tendonitis and whatnot.

[stinkyattic]

tendonitis! you're a chick! I can't tell you to stop spanking it! damn.
Yeah f'real but I drug his ass to Vermont last week and pushed him into the grow shop and over to the T5 display so now he has his own. Bout time.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Well you could tell me to stop spanking it, but I wouldn't listen.
Funny you should say that...I went to the doc about my right hand. That's the hand I do my gross motor movements with. Fine motor skills (smoking, driving, masturbating, writing) I do with my left.

Now I have to get a shot in my left hand. Coincidence? I think not.

[stinkyattic]

Now I have to get a shot in my left hand. Coincidence? I think not.
lol that's too much. Guess you'll have to switch it up there girlie.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

I'm running out of hands.

[foxysox]

Well, I spent half an hour last night taking apart the 100+ year old doorknob assembly on my veg closet to get the lock to work properly, I even found a skeleton key at the local hardware store that fits, so now I have a way to keep nosy dinner guests out my bizniz.

Here's a couple pics.
1- YES I know these seedlings are wicked stretched, I'm getting my light back today for sure, my friend swore up and down yesterday he'd drop it off... they're alive though.
2- Clones, just chillin' until there's room in the flower room
3- Here's a Yeag's Matanuska Thunderfuck clone that is totally ready to transplant and will be flowered in ~1-2 weeks. It has good side shoots, GREAT top growth, and isn't making 'stress leaves' (those little single bladed ones that often come out first after cloning).
4- Root porn! WOW I was excited to see this... coco rox my sox. This is amazing for such a short time. Yay, coco!
5- Here's the little bitch looking all sexy in her new 1 gallon home.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Hey, can I get your help on the shotglass grow thread?

[foxysox]

okay lessee,
The tall one in the first pic is a Hindu Kush, behind her is a sorta scruffy BOG unknown and in the far corner is a Sweet Tooth male in full flower... STILL... after removing him from the flower room almost a month ago. Horny bastard.
The tallest one in the other pic is a BOG unknown, and in the foreground of that pic is a chocolate chunk that JUST got transplanted last week, and needed it BADLY... I'm not too thrilled with that strain and will probably just flower her out and not do the Chunk any more. She's too finiskity.
Both these plants almost died in the move but after repotting in coco and flushing like crazy have come back to life and are almost tripled in size.

In other news, I started 3 Jillybean, 4 BlueMoonRocks (because I'm forgetful and forgot I already have some going, durrrrrrrr) and 4 Purple Star. The purple star is a sort of meh strain but I want to grow a couple plants of it outdoor this summer.

[foxysox]

Hey, can I get your help on the shotglass grow thread?
have you been having problems with coming too late? :D hahaha

[Bree1978]

your log is AWEsome. and then some. Or, Gee your log is foxy, foxy. Thanks for keeping it up for us to see!

:jointsmile: Bree

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

okay lessee,
The tall one in the first pic is a Hindu Kush, behind her is a sorta scruffy BOG unknown and in the far corner is a Sweet Tooth male in full flower... STILL... after removing him from the flower room almost a month ago. Horny bastard.
The tallest one in the other pic is a BOG unknown, and in the foreground of that pic is a chocolate chunk that JUST got transplanted last week, and needed it BADLY... I'm not too thrilled with that strain and will probably just flower her out and not do the Chunk any more. She's too finiskity.
Both these plants almost died in the move but after repotting in coco and flushing like crazy have come back to life and are almost tripled in size.

In other news, I started 3 Jillybean, 4 BlueMoonRocks (because I'm forgetful and forgot I already have some going, durrrrrrrr) and 4 Purple Star. The purple star is a sort of meh strain but I want to grow a couple plants of it outdoor this summer.
Do you even have an outside of the house job anymore, or do you just grow dank?:wtf: LOL! You must never sleep.;)

[Bree1978]

HA!

[Demeter]

The many faces of foxy- lady you sure have a :greenthumb:

[foxysox]

I know it has been a while.
The first plant in flower that is showing signs of starting to ripen is the Yeag's MTF; it's only 36 days in and the hairs are starting to turn on a couple lower buds. Aroma of that plant is strongly of black peppercorns.
The Bogglegum looks like it may be next and smells ridiculously fruity and is SO sticky.

Here's some canopy pics! My camera hates HID lighting. The crappy looking plants are rescues from the cellar ordeal that never really recovered. The others recovered fine as you can see. All of the plants in flower ATM are left over from a previous grow that had to be broken down for security reasons. The next batch of clones that are vegging right now should be ready in ~2 weeks.

Actually the pic that ISN'T crappy is fro the veg closet, oops!

[foxysox]

Okay here's some pics of the setup.
1-The hps 1000 is hung off eye hooks that are 4" long and screwed into hemlock studs. They aren't going anywhere. I could hang a mfing hammock off them, lol
2-Here's a shot of the whole room sorta... that hose on the floor is an active 4'' intake blowing in among the plants
3-Here's a shot of the view from outside during lights on. I have a fan in the light lock and clip back the outer layer of panda film so there's more air circulation. Temps are in the low 80s.
4- This is the exhaust
5- This is a diagram of the floor plan. The main area is ~5x5 and then there's a little side area under a 400 for new arrivals. There's nothing under it atm so it's off.

[Demeter]

Very cool place, foxy! The bars however, make me feel jailed- what causes that- blinds? I would love to smell that MTF- sounds good enough to cook with!

[Bree1978]

Is that one of those booster fans in pic three?

[Shovelhandle]

Nice set up. How many plants in 12/12 right now?

Shov

[foxysox]

Demeter- The stripes are a response of my cheap-as-fuck digicam to HID light. It's most pronounced under HPS but noticeable under MH. Someone who understands electronics better than I can give a better explanation.

Breeeeee- Yup, it was $27 at Home DePOT plus a 'power tool replacement cord'. I had to wire it for being plugged into an outlet but it took like 5 minutes. Yes that's duct tape over the junctions... I forgot to buy wire nuts and my stupid ex stole ALL my electrical supplies... I'm redoing the junctions more safely this weekend.

Shov- I think 10, plus those couple ugly ones that don't count because they is almost daid... lol.

Ummm lesse, there's

1 Hindu Kush
1 Chocolate Chunk
2 Yeag's Matanuska Thunderfuck
1 Bogglegum
1 Sweet Tooth
1 Afghan x BOG
1 toxic Lemon
I'm sure Im forgetting something, lol.

[Markass]

lots of lumens in that room :D nice :thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

I decided to repost this here from Dutch and Harris' log... useful.


My girl Foxy was having major problems with her last run of clones and I talked to the fertilizer guy about it.
Despite bleaching the prop trays etc and using sterile tools, the slips started developing necrotic patches within days of coming off the plant, and this despite a nice mist of copper fungicide 2x a day.
Guy said that it sounded like a Ca problem and showed me his cucumber and melon plants, which are VERY heavy feeders and seem to need extra Ca indoors, and they had been showing pretty similar problems... parts of an otherwise healthy leaf just going brown and papery while the rest of the leaf stayed fine... weird.
Anyway she's starting to prep her moms with calmag now and we'll see how the next run goes.
BTW this became a problem when she switched my old moms to coco when she took them over. Very interesting. I had always assumed our city water had plenty of dissolved Ca in it...
Ima go repost this in her log too.

[foxysox]

Updates...
Well there's not a whole heckuva lot going on but I am starting to get a feel for what the final product of the various strains is going to be like.
My personal favorite out of the ones that are nearing the end of flower is actually Stinky's (Afghani dream x homegrown) x BOG unknown. She has very dense buds and smells like a freaking DREAM... perfume and fruit... and very sticky. She is also the most vigorous plant in my garden.
The Yeag's MTF is definitely reeking of sweet black pepper.
The Bogglegum has thick thick pistils and a heavy frost, and smells intensely of fruit.
The Black Indica is frosty and sticky, but doesn't smell until you squeeze a bud, and then the aroma is subtle spice. I expect her to be a very nice smoke.
The smashberry that is almost dead smells like berries, lol.

Okay, here's what the girls got for breakfast this morning:
1 gallon of water
1 oz pure blend pro bloom
1 oz top max
1 oz neptune's harvest kelp extract
1 oz molasses dissolved in hot water

My last run of clones has officially rooted (roots are coming out of the plugs, they 'stuck' after only about 2 days!), woot, that's only 10 days! I heart rapidrooters.

Um lesee, I still haven't picked up any calmag and am getting it today, but yeah, I guess I REALLY needed it going from soil into coco; Stinky had been using that fish emulsion that has a bunch of Ca in it, like 1 ppm according to the company. I'm not using it in coco and the last run of clones suffered losses that I at first thought were fungus but my fertilizer guy identified as Ca deficiency, and then I started noticing it on the otherwise healthy mothiers too, yikes, caught that one just in time.
I'm starting some new seeds from a friend today too... Foggy Day #4... we smoked a little this week and of his 2 strains, #4 and #5, this one is more my style. It has a strongly earthy aroma that comes through in the taste too, surprising too since I've never gotten that from a plant grown in hydro, I expect great things treating it organically!

I'll try to get some good pics tonight right before the HIDs come on, under just flouros, so you can see the frost better!

That Hindu Kush mother that I decided to flower is turning into an unmanageable monster and I've got her ties to stakes stuck into other plants' pots, lol!! My goal even with all the different strains is to keep the canopy no more than 2 feet off the floor, so everyone is getting bent over and clipped down.

Something neat I recently saw at an orchid show was using those little decorative plastic hair clips, the ones that look like 2 combs and a spring, to clip stems to stakes. The little mini ones that are only about 1cm seem really promising to do all the training and still be able to undo the clips and move plants around as they grow and ripen at different rates.

[foxysox]

Here's some more setup info!


Ohhey sup, I just updated actually.
You want to keep your humidity LOOOOW!!!! Mine stays in the high 20s.
The thing is I DO have a second grow space which is a small mother/cloning closet. You can easily build one with a portable tool shed like Xcrispi did. His is VERY nice.
I've only got a single 1000 going right now because I don't have enough plants to fill the space, but doing all the work myself, the total is going to be:
2x1000HPS Sunsystem X.... $350 each including all the toys
1x400HPS inside sun... I think it was like $150... it's for the first 2 weeks that the plants are in that room, I can just cram a whole bunch under there because they are still short and the light penetration isn't a problem.. it's suitable for only a 3x3 foot floor space, hung ~20 inches from the plants
Exhaust shit... 2 duct booster fans, $30 each at home depot, 16 feet of flexible duct hose, the good shit, not that plastic crap, $25 also at home dePOT, and a roll of duct tape. You have to wire that shit yourself.
Okay also a bunch of Panda film to make a light-lock entryway where I can keep additional fans... even though I have an active intake, there's a fan in the entryway blowing even more air around the edges of the film. That fan only comes on when the lights are on but the duct fans are on 24 hours a day to make sure temperatures remain not constant, but dont fluctuate more than 15 degrees.
The room that the closet is off has an air conditioner in it that is on a thermostat and runs when temps get above 70, and the closet stays below 85.
MR Overgrow I can't say this enough!! You need LOTS of airflow and LOTS of light.
ima go copy part of this post back into my log too.

[foxysox]

Update,
All plants in both grow rooms got flushed 2 days ago.
This is the first time I have had to do a flush on coco and I found it to be far faster, cleaner, and generally less of a pain in the tuckas than soil.
I have been feeding aggressively... a little TOO aggressively... while I am not seeing much in the way of burns per se, there are definitely signs of lockouts such as red petioles, bright yellow streaks surrounding necrotic patches, plus signs of Nitrogen overdose such as upside-down canoe leaves and dull, dark green growth, plus visible white salt crystals on the surface of the medium.
This is interesting to me- in soil, those salt crystals just aren't that easy to see, but in coco they stand out and make it even easier to diagnose problems early.
Since the flush, the one plant that was practically dead from N tox has made a full recovery and new growth is looking not GREAT but it will survive no problem.
They will all be getting another flush this weekend just to be on the safe side, and then fed on a little gentler fert dosage.
Thx P! :D

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

I loveth thee. Your threads are so educational. Gives me lots to chew on. And also makes me feel hopelessly inadequate. But that's my problem.

[foxysox]

lol.. thread -S-? hee hee this is the only one i think.
ahhhhh grasshoppa! :D

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Okay, thread, singular. ;) It's still early in my world. Gray, gloomy, half a beer buzz left over from last night.

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, Foxy! How's it going? Looking good. Glad you are able to do that for a friend. It's good stuff. Ummm...so I am getting more and more interested in Coco...so I'm gonna have to keep doing research on that. Sounds like interesting stuff. Must hold much more water than hydrorocks! LOL Love all the strains you have going on. I'd love to puff on summadat. That new strain Foggy Day #4 seems like it's right up my alley. :D Sounds delicious. Is there a name for the #5? Mambo #5 perchance? That would be cool. :) Looking forward to seeing those in action. Keep posting pics! :)


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

Updates.
Moms, shown in closet, have been flushed, treated with CalMag, and prepped for cutting using my method of bloom fert instead of veg fert for the last couple feedings, and sprayed with wilt-pruf. I will also clip the fan leaves down to half while they are still on the living plant to give them time to heal before cutting and avoiding the potential for disease to enter while they are in the warm, humid cloning environment. It's just a precaution. I've done it both ways.
Started some more seeds; 3 bluemoonrocks, some more Yeag's MTF, a sage x, and a BOG unknown x of which the female showed very strong purple traits and a grape/grapefruit flavor, and was a very sturdy plant.
The closeup pics are of a Yeag's MTF less than a week from chop.
There are 4 plants in the flower room that will be coming down very soon.
Have some pics.
1- The closet
2- Some transplanting
3- A BOG unknown plant that grows .. uh... too fast, lol!!
4- Bonsai... Ain't she purdy?
5- Toxic Lemon

[foxysox]

Bunch of flowering pics

[Bree1978]

Hey I really like the new photos. Did you get a new cam? I also wanted to ask, what makes your soil so 'brown'...is there coco in there? do you use less perlite than others or do you just add 50/50 perlite/vermiculite?

Thanks for sharing, Im gaga over the last pic the most. Hey, where can I get a flowering cannabis tree?????????????? LOL again, love it.

:jointsmile: Bree

[foxysox]

Cool.
It's the same cam, but I'm not using it under HID lighting, and I'm propping it on shit so it focuses better. It still sucks equally.
Medium... actually it is 100% coco, the Botanicare stuff. VERY good product. The reason you are seeing traces of perlite and shit in there is that those plants WERE transplanted out of dirt that was REALLY salty and toxic after those poor girls were in my friend's basement- you can see the bright yellow and burnt leaves on parts of the plants; that's left over from all that mess. I tried to wash the roots pretty well but there was enough left to make it look like I'm using some weird mix, lol.
Last pic... yeah it's a little deceiving; that plant is only about 20 inches tall from the soil surface but looks bigger in the pics. That one is a Plan B Collective Black Indica.

Check the pic that has my hand in it- It's a Yeag's Matanuska Thunderfuck that was topped and cut for clones earlier in its life. The internodes on that beast are less than an inch apart, and that's under conditions tht the other plants were showing quite a bit of stretch. VERY impressed with that strain. She's also showing GREAT frost. That one, a Black Indica, a Bogglegum, and a couple others are getting chopped tomorrow or Saturday.

[dusto2k3]

Cool.
It's the same cam, but I'm not using it under HID lighting, and I'm propping it on shit so it focuses better. It still sucks equally.


looks to me like someone might have read the darn book or something.

[foxysox]

looks to me like someone might have read the darn book or something.
NO, I did not! I don't even know how to read instruction manuals. They piss me off. Especially the instructions for furniture-in-a-box.

[Weedhound]

Fox how much square footing would you say you have total for all your growing delights?

[foxysox]

Flower room= ~5x6, so 30 square feet in there with a HPS1000 and an additional HPS400 for when I get closer to capacity.
Veg closet= 2 levels, each about 5x2, so 20 square feet in there, lit by 650 W total of MH
Seedling shelf- has not been posted yet- just lit by a 24" T5 new wave fixture, 2 square feet.
Cloners- 4 square feet when they are both full, lit by just 1 CFL each.

[Bree1978]

Cool.
It's the same cam, but I'm not using it under HID lighting, and I'm propping it on shit so it focuses better. It still sucks equally.
Medium... actually it is 100% coco, the Botanicare stuff. VERY good product. Could you give me a link to actual product, I looked for it, but don't know the actual name and had problems finding it. I'm going to start researching everything about using coco. The reason you are seeing traces of perlite and shit in there is that those plants WERE transplanted out of dirt that was REALLY salty and toxic after those poor girls were in my friend's basement- you can see the bright yellow and burnt leaves on parts of the plants; that's left over from all that mess. I tried to wash the roots pretty well but there was enough left to make it look like I'm using some weird mix, lol.
Last pic... yeah it's a little deceiving; that plant is only about 20 inches tall from the soil surface but looks bigger in the pics. That one is a Plan B Collective Black Indica. I tend to like the fat indicas..I'm gonna try black dominaCheck the pic that has my hand in it That is a good plant (ha ha means a lot from me!!), I just couldn't comment because I haven't cloned and clipped.if that made sense. I don't have a comparison. I'd like to see the trichs on her!...How old is she approx.?) - It's a Yeag's Matanuska Thunderfuck that was topped and cut for clones earlier in its life. The internodes on that beast are less than an inch apart, and that's under conditions tht the other plants were showing quite a bit of stretch. VERY impressed with that strain. She's also showing GREAT frost. That one, a Black Indica, a Bogglegum, and a couple others are getting chopped tomorrow or Saturday.


:jointsmile: Bree

[Weedhound]

Damn that makes me feel small.........oh wait....I AM small. :)

[Bree1978]

Now that I'm further into research, is it bonticare nutes you are using with the coco, or a specific coco product from bonticare?

:jointsmile: Bree

[foxysox]

Heya bree
-I can't show you trichs because my camera is evil
-I'm using both the actual botanicare coco media, AND the Pure Blend Pro nutrients that are very nice in coco or soil. I think Botanicare makes really solid products, both media and nutes, plus their line of supplements is really comprehensive, reasonably priced; I personally think the Power Plant/ Power Flower stuff is great too, but it's not from organic sources.

[foxysox]

more pics... I took clones last night... lots of em.

[foxysox]

soory pics are so dark
1- all set up; don't forget to write shit down!!!
2- A slip from a low branch that has had the lower fans and secondary growth removed
3- What a mess!!!
4- Rushman's Toxic Lemon... AFTER being cut... that plant grows FAST.
5- Clones as theyu appear this morning, shiny from the wiltpruf, absolutely NO droop, flop, wilt, whatever. Notice all the leaves have been snipped down to 1 inch.

Latewood-
These plants were prepped with a bloom fert and superthrive for the last 2 waterings. I'll let you know how it goes.

[foxysox]

more pics

[foxysox]

1- another pic of veg closet after taking all the clones
2- Smashberry that almost died; was put into flower March 10, look at that toxic salt damage... she probably has 4 more days to ripeness but I just got sicka looking at her sorry ass.
3- Before manicure, after removal of fans
4- After manicure.
5- HEY!!! We're in the shower! Can we get some privacy?

[foxysox]

Yeag's MTF came down last night @51 days.
Good bud density, easy trim, very good development on all bud sites... this is not a strain that gets a shitload of popcorn buds... every branch has a well-developed cola. Very nice! High five!

Check the knot of roots in the last pic. Thing is nice and sturdy. No wimpy pot plants!!!! BOO!!!

[foxysox]

Bad news... I lost my last run of clones. We got a VERY unseasonably hot day, the room that my cloning setup is in gets SW exposure and has very large windows, and I haven't plugged in my a/c yet this year.... durr it's APRIL.
So temps got into the 90s in the room... prop tray is sitting on a heat mat... I imagine the temps in there probably hit 100 and well, whoever coined the term 'pot-roaster' for my tray-and-dome setup was DEAD ON.
So the next batch is getting rooted in the bathroom, that has blinds on the windows and is the coolest room in the house.
SHIT.
In other news, Plan B Black Indica came down the night of the 22nd and smells FABULOUS and got my fingers stickier than anything I've ever trimmed.
Oh you have no idea how freaking pissed I am to lose those clones. I have to get my flower room restocked since I've got 3 more plants coming down this week.

[foxysox]

I copied this from a different thread...
xcrispi, I took a bunch of new cuttings last night using the clonex and rapidrooters and this time instead of humidity dome + misting, I made up the recommended 10:1 dilution of wilt-pruf and added ~4mL of copper based fungicide to a 20 oz volume of wilt pruf working solution. Then I shook it up like crazy and used it to dunk the entire cutting into. I also took more clonex in a dropper and sort of filled up the rest of the holes in the rapidrooters with it. Just an experiment, lol! What I noticed this morning is:
-no wilt at all
-some leaves are showing the signs of suffocation from the gooey wilt pruf, little dark translucent green patches on the underside of the leaves. It doesn't look too severe and unless it gets wose, I'm not worried.
My big thing is, I want to see if the copper solution inhibits rooting or harms the cuttings in any way. I'm just sick of mold, since my temps are so high at this time of year, and it has been a problem the last run.

Here's some pics anyway... notice how glossy and wet-looking the cuttings are from the anti-transpirant. I fear I may have overdone it a bit!
I put the dome on them at night just to keep them a little warmer.. furnace is off for the year and night temps are a little chilly still.

[foxysox]

MMMMM bud porn, and a couple homemade water pieces
The big pink one is the Queen Bee. You can't really see the engraving on it, but it has hibiscus flowers and little bees all over, and a big bee under the stem. That's for Dutch Pimp, whose quote is in my sig, lol!

[Demeter]

Hi Foxy- Everything looks delicious, and I can't wait to hear how it all smokes!
I chopped two Pure Power Plants this past weekend, and will post pics of the dried bud- talk about sticky- my fingers stuck together even after washing several times. I eventually used olive oil to unstick :)

[dusto2k3]

Stoked, i wish i could fast forward myself to that time again.

[foxysox]

Hey guys I'm glad you posted... I was starting to get that talking to a wall feeling!!!
Phew!
Well Demeter and Dusto, I can assure you that you will not have to wait for a smoke report!
Demeter, let me know when classes are done and you're out from under your piles of paperwork! I would actually be down for tossing the canoes on the car and maybe doing the Concord and Assabet rivers... whatcha think? It's a nice paddle this time of year, a little crowded thx to all the yuppies from Middlesex County, but still pleasant.
Dusto, hahaha a fast forward button would be great. If I had a super power I think that would be in contention... it would save me having to sit through my mother's "why haven't you gone back to graduate school yet you're wasting your life and btw you should be dating a guy with a PhD" lectures... AAAAGH!!!! I just got another one of those last week. It is probably the most unpleasant thing that happens to me on a regular basis. Well, that and menstrual cramps, lol!! Thank goodness the cramps are more frequent than the lectures. And I know when to expect them so I can take a Vicodin and a nap.
But yeah... the little bit of ugly smashberry I salvaged is pretty much done and smells like mixed berry jam, YUMMMY!, the Yeag's MTF went into a jar yesterday, the Black Indica went in today, and a Bogglegum got chopped last night. The weather has been warm and dry here so things are moving along nicely and I expect smokeable product by this time next week... which means I get to bring some MTF out to the Yeag when I go visit next weekend!
wOOt.
Anyway good things are coming your way guys.

[dusto2k3]

...Yeag when I go visit next weekend!

LoL, so so is that vacation or business

Them cloes are lookin nice. hows the coco goin. Mine is kickin ass, i'll havta show you sooner than later.

Take care

[foxysox]

haha it's MY business ....you REALLY don't want to know the details... hee hee hee
Naw we're gonna hit up a baseball game and a botanical garden (of course!)
And then... :D
But f'real, the coco is hot shit.
But as for the clones.. shit... I'm pissed that it went from snowing last week, to too hot air conditioner weather this week, and I don't have all my window a/c units in yet. I have to convince my neighbor to come help me put the one in my veg room back in place.
Yeah I really want to see a real coco drip grow in action. Fert guy is after me to get with the program and join the modern world.

[Scarlet Sky]

sorry to hear about the slips foxy. if you can will you stop by my new thread? i need some q's answered...

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/113395-hey-all-you-electricians-out-there-i-need-your-help.html#post1395264

[dusto2k3]

yeah, now alls i gotta do is just add like 5 gals of feed every week. I'm sure later in flower they will drink more, but its OK, sooooo much better that hand water. Like sometimes i forget it's even there. And the place stays a lot cleaner. Now wqe don't bitch at each other talkin bout...you gonna water...

i'm scared, my landlord is coming over now, short notice, last night cuz we noticed a leak in the drain of the master shower, so i think he's just gonna take a look. I think if he ever saw the hut i'd tell him not to open cuz i do photography and it a mini dark room. The ventilation is for the chems that it takes...whaddoyathink...funny huh

[foxysox]

sorry to hear about the slips foxy. if you can will you stop by my new thread?beat ya to it already responded

Dusto that's a great excuse, hahaha do you have a bunch of photographic equipment that you can have laying around, like maybe hit up a couple pawn shops for old-school manual cameras? A trick I have used recently when company comes over, to mask the smell, is to pour a bunch of white distilled vinegar into a tray and leave that in a hidden spot in my entrance hall... it smells like vinegar... I just say that I had to scrub a spot off the carpet where [insert excuse such as dog peed, roommate's girlfriend got smashed and yakked, etc] hahaha works like a charm; all you can smell is acrid/chemical stank.

Of course, with your luck... watch the landlord be an amateur photographer and be all, oh cool, let's talk shop! :D

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, Foxysox! How are you?

Those buds look very nice. The Black Indica sounds good. I would love to try some of that. :jointsmile: Sorry to hear about the clones. That sucks...but you've got more going, so you'll only be a little behind. Didn't you say before that you started more seedlings a couple weeks ago? How are they doing? :D I hope they did not get kilt along with the clones. :eek:


yeah, now alls i gotta do is just add like 5 gals of feed every week. I'm sure later in flower they will drink more, but its OK, sooooo much better that hand water. Like sometimes i forget it's even there. And the place stays a lot cleaner. Now wqe don't bitch at each other talkin bout...you gonna water...

i'm scared, my landlord is coming over now, short notice, last night cuz we noticed a leak in the drain of the master shower, so i think he's just gonna take a look. I think if he ever saw the hut i'd tell him not to open cuz i do photography and it a mini dark room. The ventilation is for the chems that it takes...whaddoyathink...funny huh

That's the beauty of auto-irrigation. So smooth. Love it.

That's a good idea with the LL situation. Hope it goes smooth.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

Well I am at my wits end re: stupid stupid clones.
Suddenly I am having problems.
Like, this time I did 1:10 wilt pruf + just a small amount of copper fungicide as a dip.
The plants aren't wilting, but they are showing even worse signs of suffocation, and I suspect they won't survive.
I get the feeling that the listed 1:10 dilution on the antitranspirant is only suitable if one intends to apply it as a light MIST, not dunk cuttings in it.
I have to get get some expert advice here f'real.
Why do I think I'm making this overly complicated?

[Bree1978]

Looks incredibly good! Yum, I like the bud porn!

:jointsmile: Bree

[Scarlet Sky]

foxy, i can honestly say this... please take it for what it's worth....

the less i care about my cuttings, the better results i have; i've used an aerocloner, it works, it's cool, but....

rootone and dirt is my best bet; always has been, cut, dip, stick in the dirt.

k.i.s.s. ;)

and i don't use anti-wilt; i just mist lightly once a day.

[dusto2k3]

yes woman, too complicated, but surely there is some method to your madness..what happened to clonex and rooters....

[foxysox]

hahaha dusto I'm just overcomplicating everything this week. I mean, EVERYHTING.
I was trying to get around a heat problem, which I have since solved, and thought this way would be neat to try...
Well it's back to clonex and rooters, lol... someone smack me.

So since I apparently can't grow cannabis properly this week, I shall now turn my attention to making specialty candles... :D Shit's dry enough to pack. Cure en route, lol.

[dusto2k3]

...someone smack me.
/smack


So since I apparently can't grow cannabis properly this week...

blame it on temporary insanity.

Turns out my landlord and i had a tal;k about the medicinal effects of pot, hes like a 65 year old from the phillipines and he was telling me how his grandma used to grow it and it, and i quote him...

"the number one son of a gun for the headaches and stomach"

made my day. Now i just gotta convince him to let mke blow up the whole room!!

[foxysox]

"the number one son of a gun for the headaches and stomach"
!!

OMG that's priceless... sounds like the instructions on the back of some random Asian herbal remedy... number one for the headaches and stomach!!!!! hahaha

oh and thx for smack now i have headache and must smoke sonofagun.

[dusto2k3]

its even funnier, cuz he says it in a thick Tagalog accent.

Might i jojin ya...(smoke)...well at lkeast in spirit. :)

[Shovelhandle]

wow, too much going on to keep up with, Foxy. At least lost of it is good news. Have a good time at the Ball Game. What game will it be? Bluejays vs. Rangers? I'll be listening to the Red Sox-Yankees for shur. Have a good one.


I decide that I do not have the room to cultivate clones or keep a mom at this time. I do have two males (both afghaniXBog) in segragation and will probably introduce a nice female to them sometime soon. So, I'll hedge with seeds for now then.
Wishing for some sativa beans for outdoors this season...

Shov

[foxysox]

Right right shit I gotta get to the post office~~
Ballgame is going to be Tigers at Royals. 2 sucky teams battling it out. Good times.
Yeah anyway gotta love that the yanks are in last place hahaha course my friend up your way is a Yankees fan... weirdo... it's a perversion against Nature!... every so often I have to go slap some sense into him... at least now I get to gloat, too.

awww can't smoke until after 4 when I jet outta here.

[dusto2k3]

ha did you see my Padres lose last night, Peavey threw 16 k's in 7 innings only to have Hoffman get a walk off 2 run HR in the 9th, WTF

[Weedhound]

Foxy I just finally made it to this thread. Are your clones doing any better? Love your photos and growing equipment.!!!! :thumbsup:

[foxysox]

Updates!
Well stranger things HAVE happened, but not in my garden.. up to this point!
Af X BOG decided to turn maroon... true, clear, rich maroon... over the course of the last 2 days, and temps are staying above 68 even at night! What WHAT???!!! She's a beauty though, already the prettiest lady in my garden BEFORE her chameleonic turn!
The clones from the last 2 runs... a few from the first one, with the heat anr rot, seem like they are going to make it. I think there are 3 that will survive.. a little ratty, but alive.
The ones from the run that was dunked in wiltpruf, I lost half within the first 24h but of the ones that survived, they appear to have already struck... the stems don't pull out of the plugs easily... they are still perky, but damaged! Weird.
So I took another lot last night, effectively cleaning myself completely out of avaliable cloning stock, and went back to the old way of doing things, but using the wilt-pruf dunk I made as a foliar mist instead. Moved the whole setup back into my pantry, where it had worked well before (constant temperatures, no sunlight), and propped the dome a little so the humidity is higer than the room, but lower than it had been in the past.
This morning everyone is looking very very perky.

[dusto2k3]

i'll withdraw my smack now. :)

I love it when they change colors, like mine did last time, some went purp.

Glad to see you remembered how to clone...LoL

[dusto2k3]

howa bout a pic of the changer?

[stinkyattic]

i'll withdraw my smack now. ....
Glad to see you remembered how to clone...LoL

very funny

So I went and picked up 5 lbs of wax yesterday and scrounged up a passable mold... did a lil experimenting... finally after a couple tries cast a professional looking candle.

Because you know how important it is to set the mood for your toking sessions, right? :D

[dusto2k3]

LoL, aromatherapy, right.

[stinkyattic]

LoL, aromatherapy, right.
Actually no, I assume in most cases that single men have apartments that smell like ... I dunno, single men! Feet! Gym bags!!!
hahaha

[dusto2k3]

Yes yes, now that there is no more soil or anything around, the earthy overtones are gone to leave behind that oh so familiar funk. I notice my coco doesn't have that scent to it.

I've been scheming on a way to get more indoor plants in my house. I just don't know where to find any!!!

[stinkyattic]

MMMM bring on da FUNK!!!

I don't know where to find plants either. It sucks.

How about you lay wall-to-wall Astroturf instead, in your Man Land? You can build putting greens and pile-o-dirty-sock traps! Shit! I'm in the dirty sock trap again! Someone give me my sock wedge!!! CADDY!!!! :D

[dusto2k3]

i just put the shoes away in favor of flip-flops cuz all the socks are dirty...damit.

I have a home edition of Golden Tee, so we don't need the putting greens. And i really really suck at real Golf, I need to get "my size" clubs custom so I can swing correctly, and as of now, those aren't part of my game plan. I feel if its good enough weather to go golf, I should be surfing or something.

Thats funny you call for a Caddy, cuz thats what I do when we go golfing, I just get drunk and drive the cart around. It's not too bad, as long as there's enough beer and a pipe. One cart even got wrecked, we drove it it back to them with 3 wheels my roomie crashed into this huge water fountain

[stinkyattic]

I golf at this shitty chip-and-putt where they have a big, mean, domestic goose to chase away all the Canada geese, but instead it chases the golfers more often. All the guys who play there are landscape contractors from the hill towns, who play shirtless and barefoot pretty often, and they allow coolers. I must say the scenery is very nice there.
The other course I play is at someone's house up in Newark, VT, a half hour north of St. Johnsbury. It is seriously this old retired guy who had an excavating company, and his grandkids gave him a bag of greens seed as a joke, and he built a REALLY good par-3 behind his house. You just stick $3 in his mailbox, or $4 for the whole day.
No carts at either of these places... just lots of empty bud light cans.

[dusto2k3]

Actually ya know, i do like those pitch & putts. I just cant drive. My short game is alright, occasionally. If i were him, i'd throw up a recycling bin and really try to capitalize. At my house, we recycle (for cash) glass and aluminum, we fetch about $65 every month.

Sorry Foxy for Hijacking. LoL

[foxysox]

Sorry Foxy for Hijacking. LoL

this is officially the funniest thing that has been posted all day!

NAw the guy in VT DOES make a killing on cans. I've been there myself.:wtf:

[dusto2k3]

LoL.

hows the coco, i hear you are about to build a drip system

want some mone in depth pics of this one?

edit: why do i ask, hold on i'll email

[foxysox]

Still chillin'.
The flower room is hand-watered and will be out of necessity; the plants and pots are all different sizes and different strains and they all use different amounts of water.
However the top shelf of my veg closet, where everyone is in little 3" pots hanging out, could use a nice little mini drip-to-waste system. It's a real bitch trying to get in there with a watering can. There's not that much space!!!
Edit: lol I was going to say just email... then you edited!!!

[dusto2k3]

ahhh, rats. i didn't even think about that. But your right, its better cuz variety really is better. I'm almost sick of this AK, but its really nice and it makes some killer bub hash. email

[dusto2k3]

Hey you know what though woman, listen to this.

If you just do ALL coco, then you can plant them in the same drip system as long as the strenght required is close. then just go recirc, then wa-la your done.

[foxysox]

word...tracking....
love the AK end result though.

[dusto2k3]

i know, thats what keeps it (ak) around...

[foxysox]

Nice system. I have to go on a much smaller scale. I hope the guy at the fert shop ordered some more 4'x18" or whatever size they were trays, that look like they are ideal for the space. I am even considering a small gravity-fed system! Let me draw a crappy diagram... hahaha I suck as bad as my camera... double suckage!!!

[foxysox]

here it sux
Actually now that I think about it recirc is going to be easier to stuff in that space.

[dusto2k3]

yeah, i like the set up. It will work well, you just have to make sure there is enough fluid to keep the pump "wet" while its pumping. But yeah, you dont even need drippers if you fashion up your own drip rings like i did.

EDIT: just move the gravity fed thingy over to the other side, and you wont have to pump so far, and its just easier, maybe?

[dusto2k3]

does that ttray ur getting have pump and drain hoples?

[foxysox]

That pic contains 2 different potential setups.

The res shown on the right, that would be for drip to waste, with the lower res being for waste.

The alternative is to use the lower res for nutes in a recirc fashion. It would then have a pump and pump to emitters in each pot.

Yeah I know about wetting the pump from my dithering around with flood/drain.

Tray is not predrilled but Foxy's a handy chick.

[dusto2k3]

ahhh, i see. Thats good you know a handy friend (Stinky). Haha.

oh yeah, so far all i've done is top off my rez about every week.

[foxysox]

Thats good you know a handy friend. .
oooooooooooooh thems fightin words. Now it's my turn to smack YOU!
I can handle myself around power tools, thx.
grrrrrrr

[dusto2k3]

oooooooooooooh thems fightin words. Now it's my turn to smack YOU!
I can handle myself around power tools, thx.
grrrrrrr


I edited my post...

[foxysox]

Smack retracted
Seems most of the smacks around here are retractable! lol
Now about that fancypants microbrew.... :D

[foxysox]

Sup peeps.
I have some updates to report, and for a change, they are... OMG.... positive!
100% survival on last batch of clones. Apparently I was just going through a slump. lol. Even more surprising is that many of these cuts were what I would consider to be 'undersirable' shoots- from mothers that weren't prepped all that well, and not necessarily the nice, vigorous shoots high on the plant that I typically would like to take. But wOOt, not even the smallest hint of fungus this time round!
Also I picked up some new treats yesterday.
First off, a new type of bloom fert. It's locally produced and is called 'Cornucopia Bloom')- From Vermont, very very inexpensive, and comes with a recommendation from a [now retired] grower who now uses it happily on hydro veggls.
Also a friend lent me an extra hydro tray to do some experimenting with automatic drip. It's a small one, the EXACT size that would be ideal to veg under a New Wave T5 4' fixture, which I am too po' to buy atm, but covet, lol. So that's what I get to tinker with this afternoon instead of doing laundry and vacuuming like I am supposed to.
Gardening pwns housework. If only June Cleever had figured this out....

So anyway that's that.

Oh wait my bad it's not. I've been on a Rotenone campaign for the past week. I mixed up a litre of the stuff and have been HOSING my veg room with it. Stupid thirps. Plan is to knock them back hard and then hit the survivors with Avid... mwahahaha!!! DIE thrips! Going well so far.

[Scarlet Sky]

no more super species eh? i believe that if all life on earth were extinguished in a great explosion, the spider mites in my basement would still be there to repopulate the planet. lil fuckers are invincible!

tell me more about the special vermont bloom fert?

[stinkyattic]

Their website:
Hydroponics Formula X Bloom Tricarboxylic Acids Plant Fertilizers Hydroponics Growing Systems Organic Fertilizer (http://www.cornucopiaplus.com/)
A reseller's writeup:
GTG Hydroponics presents Cornucopia Plus (http://www.gtghydroponics.com/cornucopia.htm)

[foxysox]

Updates.
Tray table is in.
Very nice fit in the space, btw, for any of you who live in Victorian-era homes that have those little shallow closets in them...
I ended up putting the tray on its table in the bottom half, then lowering the top shelf, and creating a larger area to move the mothers 'upstairs'. It's nice. I stuck my MH400 in the top half for moms, and the MH250 in the bottom for rooted cuts, there's space UNDER the table for the propagation trays and a res or waste bucket.
Pics tomorrow.

[TheGreenFog]

Foxysox, that new room setup idea you have there is very interesting looking...albeit not easy on the eyes to decipher. Can't wait to see that setup! :D So, yea those T5s do look very intriguing when it comes to vegging new clones. VERY INTRIGUING! :D Congrats on the slips. :D Looking forward to the pics. :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

Here's the closet as it is right now. No automation yet.
Just running 6 moms upstairs... have a couple smaller replacements for 'retired' moms downstairs... total # of strains is actually pretty outrageous atm. It's over a dozen. hahahaha I'm like the poster child for what ADD can do for an indoor gardener...

I also have a Black Indica smoke report to share.
I think I may have a new winner...
Smell is very spicy
Flavor has a pine-woods (not like fresh pine, but like if you pick up a handful of needles from the forest floor... earthy and musty, but still definitely pine) aftertaste, and my friend said almost a hint of CHIVES, lol! What I got was piney-earthy and he says piney-chivy. hahaha go figure. But he was chowing on steamed dumplings with garlic sauce at the time and may have been tasting Chinese takeout.
Okay, as for the buzz... this is the best part.
Effect is noticeable after only one hit. Surprisingly alert for how much of a calming effect it has. Happy high, totally functional, very very relaxed. Both of us have anxiety and we agreed it's dead on the money for that.

Oh, the last pic is a clone that died of suffocation from too much wiltpruf.

[Scarlet Sky]

nice setup foxy; very nice! looks very similar to my old setup for moms/clones/veg...

if i may inquire (and thanx for the link on the fert), what is the lineage of the black indica? sounds very much like something going around here; they're calling it black cherry (no fruit taste whatsoever) and it's good stuff; friend said she got it from vermont...??

anywho... i look forward to your experiments with water and coco :p i was wanting to try coco coir, i just can't find any coco...:p

side note:

my field cuttings (no knife, scissors, or rooting agent) are doing great. they are in a raised delta in a stream. plenty of water, but not too much... i'm interested to see what mother nature can do by herself. if they take, i'll take pix.

nice to see a stand up proffesional grow. i'm jealous (more like wistful?)

have fun! hope the cuttings do good for you!

[foxysox]

I have never dealt with BC Bud depot; they just happened to have the info posted. This isn't an endoresment by any stretch.

https://www.*****online.com/seed_packs.php?seedID=1098&category=Plan%20B

I picked up my Black Indica seeds at Sacred Seed in Toronto.

Thing is, although the plant is a tad darker in color than most, it's not purple and I can't see where the 'black' came from, but very stocky and dense. I think I need to pick up another pack of these seeds and see if any other phenos crop up, because in the strain description there is no mention of pine flavor.

Thanks for the props re: professional... hahaha far from it but hey, it works for me!

[Scarlet Sky]

link didn't work :( but that's ok; i was just wondering... i lost my black dom moms. they failed to reveg, but that's ok too... my other moms are thriving outdoors (other than the blasted spider mites) and i think they'll make it through the summer no prob. if not, that's ok too; i have some new stuff to run, when i get back to it... ;)

freinds are a blessing! :p

and i may be dissapearing for a while... don't think anything of it; just lots to do. i'll be around now and again.

thanx again foxy!

[xcrispi]

Really well thought out use of space in the closet sis .
Very nice.
Crispi :jointsmile:

[TheGreenFog]

Loving the veg closet, Foxy. Looks nice and proper, now. :) So, what do you do for ventilation in there? I see you don't have air-cooled hoods, so do you just leave the door open or do you have an exhaust hidden in there somewhere? The plants look good. Mothers look like they're doing WELL. :D You need a tray under there to catch your runoff, don't you? ;)

So, how about a pic of your flower room currently? :) You propped your camera up for these pics, didn't you? :)


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

Thank you so much... Crispi, coming from you (you seem to be a bit of a neat freak about your garden!) that's QUITE a compliment!!!

Yeah the space is being used SO much better now, and it has to be. If you go back to page 1 of this log, you can see what my closet evolved from in the course of the last 2 months. hahaha it was pretty bad, but then again I had like no plants anyway. Now that I'm back up to speed, optimizing the space is super important.

Ventilation, I've got 4 of those little fans you can see in one of the pics, and I prop the door by ~5" at night and leave it even further open during the day. The room that closet is off has very poor temp control. I am happy if the closet stays in the 80s!!! lol that's changing very soon though. There's a good chance I will knock a hole through the wall that separates that closet with the one off my living room, and which also has chimney access in it, knock a hole in the chimney, and run duct. All my home systems are the fancy direct-vented shit so the chimney isn't used any more.

Anyway those 2 little MH are a 250 and a 400... they don't throw a ton of heat, and the ballasts are outside the closet.

Yes I need a runoff tray... will be picking one up when the next stock order comes in to the grow shop... identical to the one that that table is made of most likely. Then I can do a drip up there if I feel like it..

I actually didn't prop the camera... just took pics before my morning pot of coffee... lol when I'm not all spazzy and shaky.

Flower room... not a hell of a lot going on in there atm. It looks just like it did last time... I take a plant out for harvest and put a new one in to flower... the overall view stays the same. Booo-ring!!!

[Demeter]

Hi there- I think you are out of town right now, but I have just surfaced after being in the weeds (not in the good weed way, but in the restaurant lingo I am so swamped way) for about a week, so I am just saying hi foxy!
The pics look great and the black indica sounds wonderful- I have been feeling a litle anxious lately, so would love to try some :jointsmile:
The pure power plant I harvested is pure delicious! Much more densely packed buds than the blue haze, very rich herb tasting, and the high is up and calming at the same time. Today is my first day of vacation and I am sampling it right now-:bonghit:
I still have one ppp in flower which should be ready to chop in a week or so, along with three blue haze clones that got too big for the veg room.
I just added the seven sisters (one is a SAGE and one is a BBXtrainwreck and I am not sure of the other five) to the flower room and it is even more crowded than when you saw it last!
I will post some pics later on my grow log- right now I need to go out and plant some sage, swiss chard, dill, sunflowers, broccoli, etc.

[foxysox]

Heya Demeter
I'm leaving tomorrow! The girls are in good hands for the weekend.
I can't wait to hang out.

[stinkyattic]

Hey...
I just had my first sample of the Yeag's MTF from Foxy's garden!
And I am pretty much planning to be sitting in this lawn chair for the rest of the evening.
I saved it until now so the Yeag and I could smoke it together. lol for some reason it seems to be having the opposite effect on him and he is in the process of barbequeing everything that won't run away...
VERY nice high. Good flavor. Strong as a mofo.

[Demeter]

Hey...
I just had my first sample of the Yeag's MTF from Foxy's garden!
And I am pretty much planning to be sitting in this lawn chair for the rest of the evening.
I saved it until now so the Yeag and I could smoke it together. lol for some reason it seems to be having the opposite effect on him and he is in the process of barbequeing everything that won't run away...
VERY nice high. Good flavor. Strong as a mofo.


It sounds like you are having fun! I spent the morning planting the few dahlias that survived overwintering in the basement- about half were either mushy or dried up- good thing I bought 5 new dahlias :hippy:
Now, I am going to have a puff of nice pure power plant and go for a walk on this beautiful day!

BTW- I have had some problems with my cheap timer, it hasn't been working right the past few days so the light hours in the flowere room have varied a little- have I ruined the harvest? Please say it will be okay now that I reset the timer:( There are plants almost ready to chop as well as seven who have been in the flower room for about a week, so far no blooms. I sure hope they recover!

[Markass]

that's a nice setup...:thumbsup:

[foxysox]

Markass- Thank you. It is a constant evolution.

Demeter- Yikes, keep checking for nanners- do you trust the timer or have you replaced it?

I still have those snowdrops that I have to divide pretty soon... down for a little gardening within the next couple weekends? :D

[dusto2k3]

constant evolution.

for sure, once you nail it though, it's worth all the work!!!:greenthumb:

[JackHerer]

Hi Foxy

Like the use you have made of your grow space, thanks for giving me some ideas on what I can do with my own. :thumbsup:

What size fan are you considering for your ducting? I have much the same size space to vent and also have to get rid of some heat.
:rastasmoke:

[foxysox]

for sure, once you nail it though, it's worth all the work!!lol nail what, evolution? Doubt it. I just learned to use simple tools last year, and I've almost mastered the art of walking on 2 legs.




What size fan are you considering for your ducting? I have much the same size space to vent and also have to get rid of some heat.
:

Thanks! For the next set of ducting it will probably be a duplicate of the ducting in the flower room, which is a 6" boosted exhaust, plus a 4" boosted active intake. It's not quite enough for that space, but will be NICE for the veg closet!!

[Demeter]

Hi Foxy- Are you home now? Why not swing by mi casa next weekend and we'll do some gardening and fire up the brick oven for pizza? I have tons of plants to share:hippy:

I have actually found some seeds in the cured blue haze bud, but only a few here and there, and I never even saw nanners then:wtf: so I am a bit worried about the girls in the flower room now since they had two days of spastic disruption. I think the timer is working now, it just comes on later than before, but with the same 12 hours. so hopefully the damage is slight.

How I wish I lived on several acres - I would have my own little plot of heaven under the sun!

Hope to see you soon!

[dusto2k3]

HEY, how about some nug shots?

[stinkyattic]

lol nug shots.... like that camera would show anything... I could go out and make a little ball of lawn clippings and take a pic, post it under 'pictures', and all the 13 year old kids would be like, MAAAAAAAN that's some dank dro!

[dusto2k3]

oh yeah i forgot!!

Whats going on with that coco thingy pump or no pump?

[dusto2k3]

dusto2k3 Gallery - Cannabis Photo Gallery (http://gallery.cannabis.com/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/51840...look) at what i found that other day in the woods!!

[stinkyattic]

Nice. Very nice.
No pump yet. But it's going to happen I think. I just got back from almost a week with the Yeag to find some pretty unhappy looking plants, including one dead. As much as my neighbor is such a sweetie for looking after my girlies, we all know how tough it can be for a novice to judge when a plant has been watered properly.
On the up side, the not-very-well-rooted 1 week clones that I had to leave did okay! I lost a few but turning off the heat mat, a good mist with wiltpruf, and sticking the whole flat UNDER my drain table seems to have done the trick.

[dusto2k3]

dam, that blows, oh well, luckily there are more to go around eh. So did they just neglect watering? I've personally found it really hard to kill my babies by not watering, but if they are young its a lot easier.

Oh oh oh, and i just took some clones of some p91 that a friend gave me two beans of!!! cant wait to see what i have

ever use rapid rooter that have completley dried and resoaked them?

[stinkyattic]

Naw he watered, but missed a couple pots on the 3" pot table. One died. Not a big loss really.

Yeah I have but I'm not sure if it's a great idea, and I would NEVER use them for cuttings, only seeds, because I don't know what sort of condition they'd be in. Mold and all.

[dusto2k3]

oh well, just did it like 5 mins ago out of necessity and what not, oh well, we'll see whats gonna happen if anything

[dusto2k3]

Yo, what you best idea on how to get these thrips out of my garden. I'm pissed. These fuckers....is there something i can add in to my rez to get them out of my coco. They live there right, so a foliar spray or fog wouldn't take care of those. How are your plants doing in the coco. I have seen unprecedented growth in my plants. For example, my stalks used to be like sharpie marker thickness or slightly thicker when they were finished, and now they are already magic marker thickness. Think that that will flow thru to bud size? One thing i miss tho is being able to give personal attention to each plant cuz they are locked in due to the drip tubing. I have those rings around them.

Whats goin' w/you?

[postmandave]

nice set up foxy.top thread to.the postman.

[foxysox]

As for my coco endeavours.. lol... this is what I'm finding:
-Vegging is fucking AMAZING. They grow like wildfire.
-Calcium problems are rampant. Apparently there is actually a chemical interaction between the coco and Calcium, and I am going to try pre-conditioning my medium in the future by soaking it in a solution of water, bone meal, and Soil Syrup (organic acid) to try and get all the binding sites on the coco pre-saturated with Calcium.
-I am returning to a compost mix for flowering to avoid nute problems. The one I'm thinking of still inclueds 1/3 coco, but also 1/3 compost and 1/3 perlite. I expect that it will help immensely, and I will be able now to use the organic soil amendments that I have been happy with all along.

[stinkyattic]

Okay, I had a chat re: thrips with my local fertilizer expert...
The consensus is that thrips are evil.
Their life cycles in 4-5 days.
When you fog, you have to repeat the fog in 3-4 days to be assured of a complete kill because there is little penetration of the media.
This is how the little fuckheads operate:
Adult lays eggs in the meristem of the plant
Eggs hatch
LArvae emerge- it is this life stage that is most damaging, as I'm sure you have noticed!!! - and proceed to eat everything in sight
Larvae tend to hang out on the undersides of the leaves, making them harder to kill.
When they are all full and ready to pupate, they drop off the leaves and onto the soil surface, then burrow down a bit, pupate, and emerge as adults to breed and repeat the cycle over again.
Temps in the high 80s make the cycle 4 days... other wise it is a little longer.
We talked about a way to interrupt it. One thing he said is to protect the soil surface so that the larvae never reach the soil, and die without pupating. You have I'm sure seen the hydro grows- particularly waterfarm stylee- where the grower will put a slit styrofoam party plate around the stem to keep humidity confined? Same thing works to keep thrip larvae from ever finding your soil.

[dusto2k3]

Foxy - HEy girl, when i went to the hydro shop near me, i was gonna buy a non-canna coco block. The guy there recommended that i use the Canna Buffer. It's to pre buffer the medium and resoplve the calcium issues. I hear you cannot let it dry out inbetween watering, you you will have Ca issues.

Stinky, ahhh, jus twhat i'm looking to hear from ya. Ima go and do the raid bomb at HD, the blue and yellow ones. and do 3 bombs4 days apart. Hey, its saye to used during week 3-4 correct?

Thanks for you info :)

[stinkyattic]

I just bought that bomb last night but silly girl that I am forgot to set it off this morning, because I was so excited about finally catching the damn mouse that has been terrorizing my kitchen every night. lol. Cute little fucker... dead now.

I checked the label again and it's permethrin.

I'm going to look it up, but I'm bombing tonight and a couple plants are only a few days from harvest, so if you don't hear from me, I'm dead. lol.

That's really interesting about the drying out bit. I don't see how that would make a difference unless the chemistry is dependent upon a reaction IN an aqueous solution. Hm... Very interesting. Either way, I only see this shit in the flower room where temps are higher than fuck. I think I am FINALLY going to have to break down and buy an air-cooled hood. Oh, hell. That means poking holes in the wall to my crawlspace too. Can I tell you how excited I ain't about that?

[dusto2k3]

You can do something decorative to hide the hole??? Lucky you are capable eh.

Just stay by that vent hole you are punching when you bomb if ya need that fresh air!!

Let me know what you find about that chem.

Lol, there was a mouse in my kitchen too, but i waited up one night with my pellet gun and took that little fucker out!

[stinkyattic]

You can do something decorative to hide the hole??? Lucky you are capable eh.

Oh you did NOT.. hahaha you KNOW I don't know how to use power tools so I was going to get drunk, call my ex, pick a fight, and then just punch the holes with my fist. :D


Just stay by that vent hole you are punching when you bomb if ya need that fresh air!!

Naw I'm just gonna leave the house and take smelly-the-dog with me.


Let me know what you find about that chem.

Let me look that up-- PERMETHRIN - Insecticide Fact Sheet.. Read before using this poison (http://www.safe2use.com/poisons-pesticides/pesticides/permethrin/cox-report/cox.htm)

Interesting that the persistence of synthetic pyrethrin is MUCH longer than the real shit.

Hm maybe I will rethink the app after bud-set. Seriously wtf I know that last time I used a raid bugbomb I DID find a pyrethrin one.... ??? Where's it go?


Lol, there was a mouse in my kitchen too, but i waited up one night with my pellet gun and took that little fucker out!

Oh yeah I forget that you are like crazy sharpshooter guy! lol I used to shoot competitively but no longer keep weapons in the house. When my friend in VT finally agrees to teach me to rabbit hunt, things will be different. mmmmm bunnies are delicious... :D

[dusto2k3]

hell ya, bunnies are good. But my urban bunnies, i'll have to pass. I snipe them from our balcony cuz they eat my outdoor garden. My neighbor gave us the green light to hunt in hius backyard too, he says just pick up the dead ones cuz his wife would trip!;)

Lol, i learned one day that the walls have studs behind them!! (broken hand)

[stinkyattic]

You have to go around your house with a studsensor and mark that shit beforehand if you are prone to wall-punching fits of rage... lol

Rabbit braised in red wine with celery, carrots, and caramelized onions, with a big glop of creamy garlic polenta underneath to catch all that juice... OH. MY GOD. It's like an orgasm for your mouth.

[postmandave]

You have to go around your house with a studsensor and mark that shit beforehand if you are prone to wall-punching fits of rage... lol

Rabbit braised in red wine with celery, carrots, and caramelized onions, with a big glop of creamy garlic polenta underneath to catch all that juice... OH. MY GOD. It's like an orgasm for your mouth.my god That sound delicious:stoned:(not the orgasm in the mouth part)the rabbit.I wanna eat a rabbit now.:stoned:

[stinkyattic]

.I wanna eat a rabbit now.

Hows about a beaver instead? :D

[foxysox]

Stardate May 14th...

Yeaaahhhh... it dropped down below freezing at my house last night... What The Fuck. It is fucking MAY. The MIDDLE of fucking May. I woke up to find the house at 50 degrees and my dog huddled up shivering on the sofa. Plants don't seem to mind though.

Anyway a lot has changed in my garden since my last post. Acutally, my life has been in a state of flux in general... Between a death in the family, my relationship going through a really intense growth spurt, and my friends acting even more self-destructive than normal (that's saying a LOT)... all I feel like doing is sitting in the flower room, the only warm spot in my house atm, and just watching the plants grow.

There's someone who deserves a HUGE thank you- you know who you are- the only person I can talk to candidly atm who can dish out sane advice on life as well as gardening, even after like 3 pots of coffee so strong it would send most people into freaking orbit. And who, in the last 3 days, has not only been the ear that I needed, but also booted my ass into gear and resolved the worst remaining problem with my garden. Mad props to you.

Anyway I am the proud owner of my very first ever air cooled reflector!!! Even hooked up kind of half-assed because I haven't cut holes in the walls yet, the max temps have already dropped 15 degrees, right down into the sweet spot of 78. Just a little more tweaking and I'll make it permanent.

I took down an Af x BOG, shown. Nice color, but not as purple as it had been before I went away and returned to find max temps while I was gone were over 100 degrees. Now it's just sort of silvery but holy hell are those buds DENSE, like rocks.

Teh plant shown on my kitchen island is an unknown BOG that is a retired mother and went into flower last night. I replaced her with a cut and expect to get a good yield off her.

I took 15 clones last night as well, 5 each of the following : Toxic Lemon, Yeags MTF, and a BOG. They look fine so far. I cut up my prop trays so they would fit into the dishwasher between uses, lol... I'm sick of bleaching everything!

All right, now for the big one:

I'm back to compost for flowering. AAAGH! say the coco- nuts. Don't get me wrong, I still like the stuff but the amount of abuse my plants take in flower, I really need the security of a humus-based mix. I'm running between 1/3 humus and cow manure, 1/3 coco, and 1/3 perlite, and 1/2 humus and manure, and the rest a mix of the lighteners. Not very precise but that's the beauty of the humus, you don't have to be. It's tough to fuck up.

In my little veg closet, I am still using coco. The growth rates are GREAT, it's clean, and in small pots they can be removed and stuck in the shower for a weekly flush and de-thripping, which they really seem to enjoy.

Oh, and I bombed the veg room with permethrin yesterday. Yay, nothing like chemical warfare against a 6 legged enemy.

The pics are fairly obvious as to what they are.

Hope you like my color-coordinated Japanese maple and Queen of Night tulips! :D

[TheGreenFog]

Wow, Foxy. Lots going on over there. I think everyone must be getting mighty busy in their lives cuz these boards have been at a snail's speed crawl for sometime now. I'm very sorry to hear about the family death. :( Hope all is well with you.

That new hood looks w00t! :) As do your clones and your little BOG harvest there. That looks sweet. Let us know how she tastes.

What gets me more is that Japanese maple! Nice tree there! Looks so much like Cannabis, it's freaky! LOL. I'd otherwise have to say NICE STALK on that MJ plant! LOL

So any updated pictures of your flower room?


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[postmandave]

exellent nuggets foxysox. that strain looks real intresting .sorry to hear of your troubles things get better pal dont let them get you down:thumbsup:best of luck and nice reflector.


stinky you make me blush:rolleyes:

[stinkyattic]

Thanks postman, that's the cross I made that got the nice purple color under the sugar leaves. Shov is running it too. Smells lovely.

Get your paws on any castor canadensis lately? :D

[postmandave]

castor canadensis:D i had to search that raflmao. im thinking castor canadensis not heard of that strain lol your aff yer nut as wee would say here in bonnie scotland.nice one stinky and well done on that cross it looks awesome.the postman.

[stinkyattic]

:D aff yer nut fa sure. I couldn't ae said it better meself.

[postmandave]

heeheehee love it lol.

[Demeter]

Hi sweetie- wow, you are a grownup grower now, with that fine hood! Very impressive, as is that branch of bud- delish. I also love your aesthetic as shown by the tulips and Japanese maple. You have a grower's heart and a designer's eye!

This weather better not mess up my tomato and pepper plants:wtf:

I know you are going through a tumultuous time right now, so whenever you need to run away, just give me a call, come on down and hang out - the hot tub is always on!

[stinkyattic]

Hey girl, I was replying to your thread as you were posting on mine!
Thank you re: my garden. That is my pride and joy. The front of my house faces east, and there is a large cliff directly across the street, so it gets only a couple hours of morning sun. The idea of that garden is a combination of shade-loving and native plants. I have a wonderful fern collection... they are HARD to dig up, lol, and when I go hunting I have to take a hatchet to break off a chunk! I bring back a bucket of the substrate as well and plant them with their 'feet' underneath the front porch to keep cool.
There are also some other really neat forest plants in that garden- trillium, jack in the pulpit, yellow spotted fawn lily, and then the more mundane astilbe and tradescantia. The tulips are just there for color until the ferns come up.

Speaking of messing up plants, Yeag called the other day about his own veggies- with all the rain everyone has been getting, the only things that seem happy are the tomatoes and tomatillos; most of the peppers did NOT take well to the run of wet weather the Midwest has been having.

lol Ima go check your thread now

[Demeter]

Hey girl, I was replying to your thread as you were posting on mine!
Thank you re: my garden. That is my pride and joy. The front of my house faces east, and there is a large cliff directly across the street, so it gets only a couple hours of morning sun. The idea of that garden is a combination of shade-loving and native plants. I have a wonderful fern collection... they are HARD to dig up, lol, and when I go hunting I have to take a hatchet to break off a chunk! I bring back a bucket of the substrate as well and plant them with their 'feet' underneath the front porch to keep cool.
There are also some other really neat forest plants in that garden- trillium, jack in the pulpit, yellow spotted fawn lily, and then the more mundane astilbe and tradescantia. The tulips are just there for color until the ferns come up.

Speaking of messing up plants, Yeag called the other day about his own veggies- with all the rain everyone has been getting, the only things that seem happy are the tomatoes and tomatillos; most of the peppers did NOT take well to the run of wet weather the Midwest has been having.

lol Ima go check your thread now

heehee this is funny, like hide n seek! Demeter and Stinky are chasing each other around the board!
Oh I hope my peppers don't suffer like yeag's did- they are my favorites!!! I have to go outside in the drizzle and check on them now. I'll call you :smokin:

[stinkyattic]

Tag, you're it!!!!
Talk to ya in a bit!

[postmandave]

well foxy has the temp sorted now with the aircooled hood?:Dyou wouldnt happen to have any BOG genetics(seeds) lying around you wanna trade:jointsmile:iI wouldnt mind havin some of those genes in my garden.davey the postman.

[foxysox]

Hello it's been a while then...
Postman, I'll be playing with some crosses and backcrosses over the next few months so expect great things! :D

The temps are beautiful. The flowering girls potted up with compost again are basking in the light- I added another 400w of HPS now that the temps are under control. Everyone is loooking good.

I started some skunk #1 and Northern Lights recently as well. And something else... although I will have to go have a look... oh yes, I remember what it was, it was a cross I made a year ago that the most recent generation had a pheno that stank almost like kerosene, and I am growing out a bunch of seeds from that particular female.

Why skunk and NL? Couple reasons... I need a good male, basically. My recent genetics acquisitions, the Kush, Afghani, and PPP are all in female clone format and I feel that having a couple males of VERY well stabilized strains is vital. To this end I also popped some more seeds from the Yeags Alaskan stock in hopes of a good male, as that strain is nice and predictably hardy.
I'm still having a hell of a time with the clones, since my mother plants are still stressed from my coco fibre misadventures... I'm not on top of things enough to give coco the attention to detail that it demands to really produce, and my pH was consistently FAR too high for that medium. Back in compost I'm free to water happily with unadjusted tap water, lol.

After a permethrin bomb and a few good spritzes of rotenone, I haven't seen a thrip in my veg closet in a couple weeks. Rotenone isn't the best stuff to be around, particularly if you are a thrip, but for humans either, so I basically sprayed, ran, and shut the damned door behind me, lol.

The five local cuts that I was gifted recently, the afghan and kush, are potted up in compost and growing very well- thanks man. They are still too small to really show their true structure but I will post pics soon to see if one of the old-timers around the boards can distinguish which is the Kush. Only one came with a label.

Well I guess that's the update for now. Seeya next time...

[foxysox]

Okay here's some pictures.

The coco experiment is officially OVER. Too much bother. Everyone got repotted last night back into compost.

Here's a couple of the veg closet... got some nice clones in there and a really high-end and VERY expensive odor control system.

The plants on the top shelf are showing the lingering symptoms of neglect+coco, not a good combination. Basically my pH was way too high and micros were all locked out.

There's some from-seed plants too- a couple Skunk#1, a couple of my own cross derived from a similar line as the ones Shovelhandle has, but using a different mother who had even MORE purple in her but also came originally from a BOG medley, that's the one in the solo shot with the BIZARRE way it holds its fingers all together like that... very sturdy little plant though. And there's a SAGE X in there too.

[Bree1978]

I can only say you rock. Kinda blows that the coco didn't work out...I was hoping you'd be off and running with it.....and then I could copy. I like to ignore my plants occasionally so lesson learned for me, sigh.

I did want to point out I chuckled quite loudly when I saw that pine air freshner hanging in pic one. Tell all the newbs it works....tee-hee.
J/K everyone.

:jointsmile: Bree

[stinkyattic]

No really it DOES work.. right under a MH250, in the hot spot, it releases Royal Pine scent like a champ!!! Next time I am going to try New Car Scent, just for variety, lol.

I'm bummin about the coco a bit but the ability to run off for the weekend without risk of killing my plants is just too important atm as I am in a long distance relationship and need to be free to travel.

Okay: Let's vote on what kind of Little Trees Foxy should buy next!!!

Royal Pine
New Car
Cherry
Vanilla
Ocean Breeze

And any other flava I have forgotten...

Yeag, you are NOT allowed to say cherry, thx. :jointsmile:

[Bree1978]

I think cherry would be a good choice....I made that decision before I saw the last line.........

I tried the stuff from the hardware store (industrial stuff), and I put it in my hot spot....but all it did was mask it and not all that great. Gosh darn it, bleep, now I'll have to try it to see how well it works.......My brother told me when he gets right to the door he can smell skunk a bit...even with the filter. I'm oblivious though, I can't even barely detect that fresh smell anymore...
:jointsmile: Bree

[stinkyattic]

My tenants have been whining... I'm like, bitches, I should be charging you EXTRA for the privilege of breathing my stank dankness 24/7. Ungrateful bastards.

I love that smell. You can only imagine. I want to walk around in a cloud of that wonderful pot-candy scent that gets released when you brush up against a nice sweet ripe Kush bush.. AAAAAHHHH drool... My ripening Hindu Kush is just so amazing, I go in there before bed and shake her a little, better than Yankee Fucking Candle...

All right, one vote for cherry. Gawd. The big guy fucks with me by using cherry chapstick and then trying to kiss me... but I'm getting smart, and too quick for him, lol! If it doesn't have a pit in it, it's not a real cherry. And tastes like booty.

[foxysox]

I took down that chocolate chunk last night, it was pissing me off.

[Demeter]

Hi Foxy- poor chocolate- I love chocolate! How is the little PurePowerPlant princess? Hope she made it home safely.

I had no idea those little trees worked! When the blue haze and ppp were in flower, you could smell it when you opened the front door of the house! I shall stop by the car supply place and pick out some.
I always like vanilla (and chocolate!) but ocean breeze sounds very pleasant too.

[stinkyattic]

LOL the car freshener is a joke, and probably not a very good one at that...
Chocolate Chunk got culled, more than harvested...
PPP is looking perky and I have already taken a couple cuts off her and put her in a nice big pot of compost. Thanks again!!!

[stinkyattic]

Foxy got a New Car Scent little trees for her closet!!!
It's GREAT. I think this is going to be a new thing.

[Shovelhandle]

I think I'll try coconut trees... j/k <G>
How about pina colada then?

The afghanixbog grow is getting close to done. I was considering putting two outdoors after I cut all the top colas off. I put one of my earlier clone experiments outdoors a while ago and it's a midget! Just like them shotglass plants. Problem is, I don't know if I took the slips from a male or female? Well, odds are female anyway.

Go BoSox

Shov

[Bree1978]

LOL the car freshener is a joke, and probably not a very good one at that...
Chocolate Chunk got culled, more than harvested...
PPP is looking perky and I have already taken a couple cuts off her and put her in a nice big pot of compost. Thanks again!!!

See you told me to jump, and I said "how high miss?" lol. wHHHHHat a dumbass..........


The butt of the joke yet again, lol.....


Wooly Booly is all I've got to say in my defense....

:jointsmile: Bree