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1212awwaww
12-04-2004, 03:04 PM
i was just thinking about this... like if you have green eyes do you see red as a different colour to someone with blue eyes... and how can this be proved... cos if one person identifies a colour as red, they wouldnt actually know if it was different to what everyone else thinks of as red... because since birth they will have seen everyone elses blue as red and therefore just associate the colour as red...

...im confusing myself so much !

so do people with different coloured eyes see colours differently !?

...like maybe we all have the same favourite colour but interpret it as different....

Encatuse
12-04-2004, 11:48 PM
Nope. Eye-color doesn't effect how we see color.

thecrackbaby
12-04-2004, 11:56 PM
or else bowie would see different colours from each eye

RESiNATE
12-04-2004, 11:57 PM
There was this kid at one of my schools:
He was amazed that his younger brother could tell what they were having for breakfast, one day - he was, like, "How did you know that we were having eggs and bacon?"
The younger brother replied, "because I smelled them being cooked by mum."
At 7yrs of age, this kid suddenly discovered that he didn't have a sense of smell!!
Wierd, eh?

Anyways, no is the answer lmaoo

Although, pigeons cant watch films at the cinema..because their brains read images at 7000fps, and humans read them at 700fps..which means that the image on the screen would appear like a still photo to them.

The answer is still no, though

:D

maryjanemama
12-05-2004, 01:19 AM
Wow, Res, the kid never he knew he couldn't smell because he couldn't smell. I've been getting stoned very rarely, lately, but I just did, FINALLY, and you just blew my mind for a while!

GHoSToKeR
12-05-2004, 03:45 AM
I know what you're saying.

Since I was born, i've been seeing things of the colour Red, and being told that they are Red. The same goes for Blue, Green, Yellow, etc. The same has happened to you, and everyone else.

So when I see an object that I have been taught to recognize as Red, I think 'hmm.. that's Red'. When you see the same thing you will also think 'hmm.. that's Red'. Logically, that makes sense. lol

You and I are both looking at the same 'Red' object and identifying it as Red, because we have learnt that that particular colour is called Red. But, how do I know that you are seeing the same colour that i'm seeing?

You may be seeing what I know as 'Blue', but you are calling it 'Red' because that's what you have been taught to do. So, when we see a Red object, we both identify it as the same colour (Red), but we're not actually seeing the same colour. But, there's no way to tell if we're seeing the same colour or not, because whatever colour we are seeing, we have both been taught to identify it as Red. :p

I've often wondered about that.. Funnily, i'm nearly always stoned when I do. lol

apsinthion
12-05-2004, 12:54 PM
I'v thought about this before too. But there's nothing I can say that GHoST didnt in the last post.:)

F L E S H
12-05-2004, 04:44 PM
You know, I've thought about that many times too... In the end though, after taking some physics classes, I think everyone sees colors the same way, though don't quote me on this, I might be totally wrong. The colors we see are just different wavelengths of the visible spectrum (the entire spectrum ranges across radio waves to x-rays to gamma rays--visible light is only a very small fraction of that), ultra-violet being high-frequency (short wavelength) and infra-red being low-frequency (longer wavelength).

we all have rods and cones in our eyes, and when they are stimulated by a certain frequency I think each individual's brain should interpret them pretty much the same way, unless someone is color blind, of course.

Meh, I just wrote but I'm still not sure lol :D

GHoSToKeR
12-05-2004, 04:46 PM
but how do you know we're not all colour blind? lol :p

Just because we both see a car and think it's Red, doesnt mean we're both seeing the same colour.. If a thousand people see the car, they'll all think it's Red, but who knows if they're all seeing the same colour lol

RESiNATE
12-05-2004, 04:56 PM
I've also wondered if we hear the same things too.
Like, when I go to the bank and ask for a financial boost - they think they've just heard a brilliant joke :confused:

1212awwaww
12-05-2004, 06:21 PM
or else bowie would see different colours from each eye

True.

This thread has made me relise that my origanal post is alot of slevers, but you can see where i was coming from tho, kool :p

maryjanemama
12-05-2004, 08:28 PM
but how do you know we're not all colour blind? lol :p

Just because we both see a car and think it's Red, doesnt mean we're both seeing the same colour.. If a thousand people see the car, they'll all think it's Red, but who knows if they're all seeing the same colour lol
Because if all of those ppl would disagree that the color is red. Right? I mean there's no way we could all agree that the color was red if we all saw it as a different color. Am I making any sense?

jacquelyne
12-05-2004, 08:43 PM
i was just thinking about this... like if you have green eyes do you see red as a different colour to someone with blue eyes... and how can this be proved... cos if one person identifies a colour as red, they wouldnt actually know if it was different to what everyone else thinks of as red... because since birth they will have seen everyone elses blue as red and therefore just associate the colour as red...

...im confusing myself so much !

so do people with different coloured eyes see colours differently !?

...like maybe we all have the same favourite colour but interpret it as different....

Its the black part of the eye (pupil)that actually sees not the coloured part of the eye and everyones pupils are black so we all see the same.

The C
12-05-2004, 09:03 PM
Sholdnt it, i would think we all have a different perspective of reality beased on what and how we see, things are a set colour and we presieve them the was we do because of our eyes.

But then again thats just a passing thought. Would be neat though.

opiuser
12-05-2004, 09:13 PM
Because if all of those ppl would disagree that the color is red. Right? I mean there's no way we could all agree that the color was red if we all saw it as a different color. Am I making any sense?

the thing is that we all could possibly see this color "red" as a different color... like whenever u see it, it's "red", just a name... but what you perceive to be "red", you might actually be seeing it as my perception of green looks to me, and i may see it as your perception of blue looks to u. just like some people are nice, others mean, some women, some men.

i've always thought about this... just one of those weird quandries... ive also thought about how weird it is that when i think, i hear it as english, and i can also think in spanish. my thoughts always take the form of pictures, feelings, or sounds...

and another thing... smell is supposedly the strongest sense tied to memory... but i cant remember any smells... except for that of pot.

Proof
12-05-2004, 11:54 PM
lol shit man i have greeny bluey eyes what wil i be seeing?!

Supportradicalhabits
12-06-2004, 01:23 AM
this thread cracks me up, wish i was stoned

Mogizzle
12-08-2004, 03:21 PM
had no prob wit this.. guess my right brain owns the left eh?

Ammie
12-08-2004, 06:16 PM
w0w that just makes my brain hurt thinkin about it :confused:

Minnie
12-08-2004, 08:11 PM
different textures reflect some certain wavelenghts of light...so..even we see colours...they dont exist...as in we can't kno the real colours of the objects cause the light makes us see em in some certain colours :P in english this sounds v odd...
anyways the light goes in ...to tht black part of our eyes....so...the rest dont matter at all

awp
12-08-2004, 08:48 PM
the color of your eye has nothing to do with how you see color. but i do know what your trying to say minnie. people agree that a car might be red and even a specific shade of red, but people might see it as a different shade but it would be so similar to the actual color that they couldnt tell the difference. this might be from shitty genes or other factors like mabey you looked in a laser pointer as a child too much. mabey you got poked in the eye last week and now everthing in one eye seems to be shadier. thats how it is for me

Minnie
12-08-2004, 08:51 PM
men have more problems wif colours than women :) yay
tho europeans have more problems than the rest of the world...there goes the joy

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
12-08-2004, 11:29 PM
what does a rainbow that a colorblind person would see look like? lol i typed in color blind rainbow in google and this is all i got lol AHH RAINBOW RAIDER!

4252
12-09-2004, 12:50 AM
1212,

I've wondered about this for a long time, and the phrase "in the eye of the beholder" always comes to mind. Even if our sensory organs are all of the same type, and scientific instruments can be used to make precise measurements, who can say that the connections between our eyes and brains are wired up all the same? There's such diversity in humanity, I seriously doubt that I see exactly what you see, and that we interpret it the same way in a kind of universal understanding. Isn't that what art is all about?

It would be interesting to devise an experiment that would determine the answer to the question, but first I must finish my perpetual motion machine.

4252

powair
12-09-2004, 12:53 AM
I've also wondered this. It's a very interesting concept and could very well be true. There's no way to tell if red to me is the same to you, and thats weird.

GHoSToKeR
12-09-2004, 08:27 AM
1212,

I've wondered about this for a long time, and the phrase "in the eye of the beholder" always comes to mind. Even if our sensory organs are all of the same type, and scientific instruments can be used to make precise measurements, who can say that the connections between our eyes and brains are wired up all the same? There's such diversity in humanity, I seriously doubt that I see exactly what you see, and that we interpret it the same way in a kind of universal understanding. Isn't that what art is all about?

It would be interesting to devise an experiment that would determine the answer to the question, but first I must finish my perpetual motion machine.

4252
lol cool post :p

4252
12-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Thanks!

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