Education

[GHoSToKeR]

How should it be run?

Poll Option 1 - Stricter

This means more rules, more punishments, ergo more control. Control the kids, make them sit down and shut up and do what they're told, and learn what they're supposed to learn whether they like it or not. Control what they wear; their hair length and colour; control how they speak, what they say; basically if they do what they tell you then they'll learn what you teach them.

Poll Option 2 - More 'liberal'.

This means less rules, less punishments, ergo more respect from the students. Let them decide how they dress, how they act, how they talk. Stress to them how important education is, and let them decide how much work they do. Respect them, treat them like adults, and get respect back. Be friends to the students, not dictators. Let them make their own dicisions, and take responsibility for those decisions.

So, which do you think is the best way for schools to be run?

[JohnnyBravo]

Option 1, without a doubt.

Bring back the cane and sort the little bastards out. Everythings got too slack these days - eg. You give a kid a clip round the ear and next thing you know your up for child beatin - load of bollox.

[Day Dreamin Faze]

I think the schools should be run under Option 1 to a certian age. Like when they get to middle school/high school they take on option 2. Because highschool is there to prepare you for your future.

[never 2 much]

I think the schools should be run under Option 1 to a certian age. Like when they get to middle school/high school they take on option 2. Because highschool is there to prepare you for your future.
i tottaly agreee with you...
hell, i got exspelled in high school, but now that im out i realize that it was actually a good thing..i've learned more than i probably ever will....and have grown up alot....
school, is basiclly for nothing after a certain point...you only use so much of that knowledge in the 'real world'

[SmokeyPotter]

The vast majority is obviously going to go with option 2. This is a pothead forum after all.

[BOgart.bitch]

option 2 ;D

[acrca]

i think option 2 because im in school and option 1 would suck.

[yoda]

option 2. that way the kids who really do want to learn will, and more emphasize can be put on them. option 1 would cause too much trouble. how the fuck is a school gonna tell me how long to keep my hair(maybe that would piss me off cause i have long hair now). to me, thats them trying to tell me how i live my life outside of school. next thing you know, they'll be enforcing drug tests there.

[nuggetgirl]

definitely option 2. I believe the way school systems are run more like option one, and it takes away the creativity and imagination all children posess. Society wants everyone to be the same.

[halo]

I haven't voted yet but im at a catholic high school and #1 is definetly how they operate. It kinda sucks i guess, but kids don't jack around as often. Some of my teachers are cool and let you goof off to some extent. More learning is definetly accomplished than at a public shool. Actually i am going to vote number 1 because public schools are pretty much doing #2 and that isnt working. I mean just look at where we rank compared to other industrialized nations. We aint good. I dont think the hair or clothes matter but punishments should definetly be stricter in public schools

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

How should it be run?

Poll Option 1 - Stricter

This means more rules, more punishments, ergo more control. Control the kids, make them sit down and shut up and do what they're told, and learn what they're supposed to learn whether they like it or not. Control what they wear; their hair length and colour; control how they speak, what they say; basically if they do what they tell you then they'll learn what you teach them.

They already do that dude. wtf u on about? Apart from hair lenght but they don't let you dye ur hair any UNnatural coulors like pink or some green ect. and yes they do control how we speak, if i want to ask to take my blazer off i have to say "MAY i take my blazer off?" and not "CAN i take my blazer off" other wise i get shouted at. They control what we say, they make sure you don't swear, they make sure you don't talk about anything apart from the lesson subject. Its already like that so why is that option there as "stricter"?

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

Option 1, without a doubt.

Bring back the cane and sort the little bastards out. Everythings got too slack these days - eg. You give a kid a clip round the ear and next thing you know your up for child beatin - load of bollox.

hitting someone else's child IS wrong. peroid.

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

I haven't voted yet but im at a catholic high school and #1 is definetly how they operate

Yes, i am at a catholic school too. You HAVE to do what they say, wear what they say, and your not aloud to talk in lessons, peroid. If you do you'd get sent out and if you kept doing it you'd get kicked out the school.. They tell us what we can and can't do at my school. EVEN outside school. When i was waitin for my bus i was smokin a cig and a teacher come's up and tells me to put it out. because im still near the school and still in school uniform they said it gives the school a bad word. Its just fucking bullshit these days. Or it is at my school anyway. You loose more or less ALL rights and freewill when you walk in.

[halo]

Yes, i am at a catholic school too. You HAVE to do what they say, wear what they say, and your not aloud to talk in lessons, peroid. If you do you'd get sent out and if you kept doing it you'd get kicked out the school.. They tell us what we can and can't do at my school. EVEN outside school. When i was waitin for my bus i was smokin a cig and a teacher come's up and tells me to put it out. because im still near the school and still in school uniform they said it gives the school a bad word. Its just fucking bullshit these days. Or it is at my school anyway. You loose more or less ALL rights and freewill when you walk in.

I know its the same at my school. It sucks cause we have an awesome football team and they get way too many fucking privelages. Like 2 years ago there was some party in a brand new house that was still kind a being constructed. Apparently people got drunk and really trashed the house. Like punchin holes in the drywall and stuff. Anyways long story short all the guys who were not on the football team got expelled (all guy school), but not the football team. Oh God Forbid if players on the football team get in trouble. Pisses me off

[halo]

I really do not think they should be able to control you outside of school though. Thats wrong.

[Reefer Rogue]

I know kids in secondary schools have very little respect for teachers. I know it was very disruptive at times when there wasn't enough discipline. I prefer college because if you don't want to be there then they kick you out. They don't have time for bullshitters and neither do I!

I chose option 1 but I disagree with schools dictating hairstyles and clothing. I don't see how those two things affect learning...

[Torog]

How should it be run?

Poll Option 1 - Stricter

This means more rules, more punishments, ergo more control. Control the kids, make them sit down and shut up and do what they're told, and learn what they're supposed to learn whether they like it or not. Control what they wear; their hair length and colour; control how they speak, what they say; basically if they do what they tell you then they'll learn what you teach them.

Poll Option 2 - More 'liberal'.

This means less rules, less punishments, ergo more respect from the students. Let them decide how they dress, how they act, how they talk. Stress to them how important education is, and let them decide how much work they do. Respect them, treat them like adults, and get respect back. Be friends to the students, not dictators. Let them make their own dicisions, and take responsibility for those decisions.

So, which do you think is the best way for schools to be run?

Howdy GhostToker,

I picked option 1,but I don't think it should be quite as strict as you lay out..students should be able to express themselves in a debate,for instance. Kids should be treated like kids,not adults..even 17 year olds,should be treated like kids,unless they're like I was and went into the military,at the age of 17. When they turn 18,they should start being treated like adults..they should be encouraged to register to vote as well as register for the draft. Kids need discipline and order,in their lives and it's up to the parents to do that and help them git their priorities straight too.

School uniforms save lives,because when kids sometimes wear the wrong colors,they git attacked and sometimes,killed over it.

Have a good one ...

[D.Boone]

i think they should keep it just the way it is. i mean our system has been very effective. if u look at graduation rates around the country most people are graduating. howeever it doesnt always work out for everybody. like in my case. but thats y they have alternative high schools now. if u implement to many rules then the students will just fight back. if u let the students decide how shit is done they will just make it way to easy and everybody will be dumber for it. so like i said the school system right now might not work for everybody including myself but i still thinks its the best system we could hope to have cause it works for most people.

[D.Boone]

its need an option 3 - no change

[cannabis campbell]

They already do that dude. wtf u on about? Apart from hair lenght but they don't let you dye ur hair any UNnatural coulors like pink or some green ect. and yes they do control how we speak, if i want to ask to take my blazer off i have to say "MAY i take my blazer off?" and not "CAN i take my blazer off" other wise i get shouted at. They control what we say, they make sure you don't swear, they make sure you don't talk about anything apart from the lesson subject. Its already like that so why is that option there as "stricter"?

lol you must go to a really posh school especially with blazers

[dog420]

Option 1

I remember the old days when dad used to be in the army, thos schools used to kick ass :O, no shit was taken from any lil kids who though he/she could rome around doing what they wished!

Kinda made me grow up fast!

Peace

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

But it should be up to the kids parents to disipline them, the teachers are there to teach, they should'nt take away freewill. Hell, i can't even say i don't believe in god other wise i'd get fucking sent out the class room, stupid assholes just try to make everyone else think the way they do. "marijuana's bad" fuck off, your bad.

[Skink]

I choose 1... If half the parents today did there job,,, then I would have a different opinion....

[HiddenBeauty]

I choose 1... If half the parents today did there job,,, then I would have a different opinion....

I am of the same thought but saying that I also understand that there are uncontrollable kids who love nothing more then going against any kind of authority.

[benagain]

mostly option 1. But a little of option 2. If kids are to decide how much work is done, nothing would be completed.

[psychocat]

To achieve anything discipline is a prerequisite.

[bentleygtgirl]

option 3- ran with higher budgets and a more even playing field so all kids in america are given the same chances...

oh, and about 30% of high school kids on average across the country will not graduate...time mag. just did an article on it.

[HiddenBeauty]

I can't see this being a fair judgement because most of the people on here are still in education so I think they most of them would go for option 2 but people who are older remember how respectful youngsters were when there was more discipline and how disrespectful most are now.

[GHoSToKeR]

Wow where did this thread come from?


Howdy GhostToker,

I picked option 1,but I don't think it should be quite as strict as you lay out..students should be able to express themselves in a debate,for instance. Kids should be treated like kids,not adults..even 17 year olds,should be treated like kids,unless they're like I was and went into the military,at the age of 17. When they turn 18,they should start being treated like adults..they should be encouraged to register to vote as well as register for the draft. Kids need discipline and order,in their lives and it's up to the parents to do that and help them git their priorities straight too.

School uniforms save lives,because when kids sometimes wear the wrong colors,they git attacked and sometimes,killed over it.

Have a good one ...

Howdy Torog, i've missed ya, man! We haven't disagreed about anything for a while now! I've been having withdrawal systems and stuff :D