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Psycho4Bud
02-07-2007, 09:06 PM
An Italian judge has indicted an American soldier for the shooting of an Italian intelligence agent in Baghdad in 2005. The soldier will be tried for voluntary murder. He is expected to be tried in absentia. Sabina Castelfranco reports for VOA from Rome.

Mario Lozano of the U.S. Army's 69th Infantry Regiment is being charged with the fatal shooting of an Italian intelligence agent at a checkpoint in Baghdad in March 2005. A judge in Rome Wednesday ordered that Lozano be tried for voluntary murder.

The agent who was killed, Nicola Calipari, had just secured the release of kidnapped journalist Giuliana Sgrena. The agent and the journalist were being driven to Baghdad airport when the U.S. soldier opened fire and fatally wounded the agent. The journalist was wounded.
VOA News - Italy Indicts American Soldier for Shooting of Italian in Iraq (http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-02-07-voa43.cfm)

HEY, ITALY........:S4:

Have a good one!:s4:

higher4hockey
02-07-2007, 09:13 PM
do you remember the movie apocalypse now ? there was a line in that movie that said something along the lines of : handing out a murder charge in this place is like handing out speeding tickets at the indy 500


accidents happen when young men are handed deadly weapons and told to do a job, no amount of training can prepare you to deal with the fear felt in a combat situation, and no amount of training can stop fear from turning into anger.

Kid Dynamite
02-07-2007, 09:31 PM
yeah...like the accident that happened when 2 American fighter jets blew the shit out of a convoy of British APC's... Bush, next time you wanna start a war, dont call us...

Psycho4Bud
02-07-2007, 09:48 PM
Bush, next time you wanna start a war, dont call us...

First off it was a JOINT EFFORT. Next, I think I recall 131,028,000 U.S. military people that gave their lives helping the Brits out or saving their asses, however you want to look at it...... Your so very welcome.:D

Have a good one!:s4:

Kid Dynamite
02-07-2007, 10:16 PM
Yeah thanks a lot...so nice of you to step in BEFORE Pearl Harbour...oh yeah, think i've got something mixed up a little bit there...

not to mention the fact that if the Senate had ratified the League of Nations, WWII might never have happened.

And in response to the "joint effort" i agree...and i hold Tony Blair in just as much contempt as George Bush when it concerns the war.

Bong30
02-07-2007, 11:04 PM
Im sure Kid D....was cheering for when Pat Tillman was killed by Friendly Fire.

It is Sad that anyone has to die, but it is war, (that Radical Islam started), and people die in war.

Death is Reality, peace is a dream.....

Breukelen advocaat
02-07-2007, 11:19 PM
A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They sit down and engage in an animated conversation.
The lady sitting behind them ignores them at first, but her attention is galvanized when she hears one of the men say the following:
"Emma come first.
Den I come.
Den two asses come together.
I come once-a-more.
Two asses, they come together again.
I come again and pee twice.
Then I come one lasta time."
"You foul-mouthed swine, " retorted the lady indignantly. "In this country we donā??t talk about our sex lives in public!"
"Hey, coola down lady," said the man.
"Who talkinā?? abouta sexa? Iā??m a justa tellinā?? my frienda how to spella Mississippi

Q. What's the sales pitch for a used Italian Army Rifle?
A. Never been fired and only dropped once.

Q. Why does the Italian Navy put glass bottoms on their new ships?
A. So that they can see the OLD Italian Navy ships.

Q. What does FIAT stand for?
A. Frenzied Italian At Traffic-lights.

Q. What's an innuendo?
A. An Italian suppository

;)

Bong30
02-07-2007, 11:31 PM
BA... LOL

Thepossumdance
02-08-2007, 12:02 AM
not to mention the fact that if the Senate had ratified the League of Nations, WWII might never have happened.


im not a big fan of the war in Iraq... but the above comment is both blatently wrong and completely retarded

??? so what you're telling me is that a global organization weaker than the UN, which is already unable to handle relatively small regional conflicts (bosnia, sudan, etc etc), would have been able to stop WWII

your claim is completely baseless please return to 10th grade history

Kid Dynamite
02-08-2007, 12:04 AM
Im sure Kid D....was cheering for when Pat Tillman was killed by Friendly Fire.

It is Sad that anyone has to die, but it is war, (that Radical Islam started), and people die in war.

Death is Reality, peace is a dream.....

Excuse me? I dont know who Pat Tillman is, but im sure as hell not happy he's dead. Why would i cheer that he was killed by friendly fire? You think that im happy when America looks incompetent, you think i find it funny? Because i dont, especially when it results in loss of life, whether that be British, American or the life of an innocent Iraqi citizen. And i accept that accidents happen in war, but when the American government covers up such incidents, such as in the case of Pat Tillman and Matty Tull, well that is truly abhorrent and disgraceful. The least that these people deserve is that their families receive an accurate report of the events leading to the deaths of the husbands sons or fathers. They deserve to know the truth about how their loved ones died.

And i agree, peace is a dream. I dont object to all war, because sometimes war is necessary. But i do object when a war is started under false pretences...and im sure you won't agree, but radical islam didn't start the war in Iraq. The war in Iraq started because Saddam stopped being friends with the U.S, and an invasion was necessary to protect their interests in the Middle East, primarily oil, and the interests of Isreal. Before you start blaming radical Islam for the confilct in the Gulf, please remember that Osama Bin Ladens Afghani Jihad was funded by the CIA during the 80's to combat the Soviet influence in Afghanistan. The backlash or radical islam is a response to repeated and numerous american interventions in the middle east. It didn't come out of nowhere. And i dont disagree that Saddam was pure evil, and deserved everything he got. But was the toppling of his regime really worth the result, plunging Iraq into a bloody sectarian conflict that has no forseeable end? However much you supported the war, bong30, you can deny that it has been a fuck up of the highest proportions.

Please excuse me for ranting and raving, but i have strong views on this matter,especially when it means that my countrymen are being killed in a war that we shouldn't be involved with in the first place.

rant over.

Kid Dynamite
02-08-2007, 12:08 AM
im not a big fan of the war in Iraq... but the above comment is both blatently wrong and completely retarded

??? so what you're telling me is that a global organization weaker than the UN, which is already unable to handle relatively small regional conflicts (bosnia, sudan, etc etc), would have been able to stop WWII

your claim is completely baseless please return to 10th grade history

in response to this, your totally missing the point. My point was that IF the US HAD been in the league, it might have had the power needed to stop Hitler. And i dont mean defeat Hitler during WWII, i mean itmightve had the power to effectively apply economic or military sanctions to prevent Germany rearming and breaking the rules of the Treaty or Versailles.

And i agree, without the USA, the league was almost totally useless in dealing with even the smallest conflicts.

and i apologise if my wording may have confused you...i should have said "if the Senate had ratified joining the league of nations..."

and dude...learn to spell before you start calling other people "retard"

Thepossumdance
02-08-2007, 12:27 AM
??? i completely understood what u said U RETARD... ur claim is still moronic and guess what u are clearly not understanding what I said note the part about the UN (if you havent noticed we are in the UN and it still cant stop anything from happening)
ECONOMIC SANCTIONS WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED GO BACK TO SCHOOL
1. germany was making many illegal underhanded agreements with other countries which would not have been affected by this ban (IE USSR)
2. germany's economic growth was almost entirely due to internal reform and a move to build up its own infrustructure

and dude learn history before you decide to argue about it

Psycho4Bud
02-08-2007, 12:47 AM
Yeah thanks a lot...so nice of you to step in BEFORE Pearl Harbour...oh yeah, think i've got something mixed up a little bit there...

Well after kicking some Brit ass in 1776 and 1812 then being of the forgiving nature decided to help ya all out in WW1. I would imagine that we held off a bit and saw if the lil' dog could do it on their own but Pearl Harbor was the key that told us that the big dog was NEEDED again. So once again, Uncle Sam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjQYSIoU4-k) to the rescue.

By the way, your welcome! :D

Have a good one!:s4:

Thepossumdance
02-08-2007, 12:52 AM
to be fair we didnt really kick any ass in the war of 1812

Psycho4Bud
02-08-2007, 01:08 AM
to be fair we didnt really kick any ass in the war of 1812

:S2: May not have kicked their asses that hard but they sure felt the sting of Uncle Sams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXrxfjEOhs) boot on their ass.

Have a good one!:s4:

Thepossumdance
02-08-2007, 02:18 AM
ya but to be fair they only got an ass kickin, Japan got cockslapped

Dutch Pimp
02-08-2007, 07:25 AM
to be fair we didnt really kick any ass in the war of 1812

....it was a lame effort ..up North..but..down South....In 1814 we took a little trip...Down the mighty missasipp...

..you know...Battle of New Orleans.....:)...

..people in Tennessee remember...

andruejaysin
02-08-2007, 08:10 AM
^But that battle was after the war had ended, sorta pointless.

Kid Dynamite
02-08-2007, 08:10 AM
Well after kicking some Brit ass in 1776 and 1812 then being of the forgiving nature decided to help ya all out in WW1. I would imagine that we held off a bit and saw if the lil' dog could do it on their own but Pearl Harbor was the key that told us that the big dog was NEEDED again. So once again, Uncle Sam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjQYSIoU4-k) to the rescue.

By the way, your welcome! :D

Have a good one!:s4:

Yep...you really had us served in the war of independence...with a little help from

THE FRENCH

Kid Dynamite
02-08-2007, 08:16 AM
??? i completely understood what u said U RETARD... ur claim is still moronic and guess what u are clearly not understanding what I said note the part about the UN (if you havent noticed we are in the UN and it still cant stop anything from happening)
ECONOMIC SANCTIONS WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED GO BACK TO SCHOOL
1. germany was making many illegal underhanded agreements with other countries which would not have been affected by this ban (IE USSR)
2. germany's economic growth was almost entirely due to internal reform and a move to build up its own infrustructure

and dude learn history before you decide to argue about it

yeah nice comparison....you may be in the UN, but the US only contributes 350 peacekeepers, out of a total 95 000, meaning that they have about as much involvement in the UN as in the League. And regardless of Germanies dealing with other nations, if America had been part of the league then this fact alone would have been enough to make Hitler think twice about expanding into europe, considering the industrial and military power of the US.

and dude, please calm down. Im thinking maybe we could have a rational debate instead of just shouting "UR A RTARD LOOL"

Dutch Pimp
02-08-2007, 08:46 AM
^But that battle was after the war had ended, sorta pointless.

...sorry...we didn't hear the whistle..

Breukelen advocaat
02-08-2007, 04:43 PM
Yep...you really had us served in the war of independence...with a little help from

THE FRENCH
You neglected to mention that Britain had a "little help" as well, well before the French helped the Americans.

England had purchased "Hessian" troops, from six principalities in GERMANY - early in the War.

The Battle of Saratoga was the turning point of the war, when we beat Burgoyne, and the German troops led by Genreral von Riedesel, etc. It was then the French saw that the Revolution could be won by the Patriots and got involved.



SARATOGA, NEW YORK October 17, 1777 - A British army of nearly 7,000 surrendered today to a combined force of American militia and Continental regulars. "The fortunes of war have made me your prisoner," said British General John Burgoyne as he handed over his sword to his American counterpart, Horatio Gates. "I shall always be ready to testify that it was through no fault of your excellency," Gates replied.

News of the momentous British defeat spread quickly through the colonies and fueled speculation that the French government would now seriously consider entering the conflict on the American side. For months, rumors have suggested that Louis XVI needed solid proof of the strength of the revolution before he would officially commit French military aid to the cause. The British defeat at Saratoga could very well buy that help.


LIBERTY! . Chronicle of the Revolution . Saratoga 1777 | PBS (http://www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/chronicle_saratoga1777.html)

Psycho4Bud
02-08-2007, 06:20 PM
yeah nice comparison....you may be in the UN, but the US only contributes 350 peacekeepers, out of a total 95 000, meaning that they have about as much involvement in the UN as in the League. And regardless of Germanies dealing with other nations, if America had been part of the league then this fact alone would have been enough to make Hitler think twice about expanding into europe, considering the industrial and military power of the US.

and dude, please calm down. Im thinking maybe we could have a rational debate instead of just shouting "UR A RTARD LOOL"

At the beginning of WW2 we were rated number 7 based on military strength. Hitler was impressed by our national resources, not our military power.

How times have changed........:S2: Don't worry though, shit hits the roof again we got your back.

Have a good one!:s4:

Thepossumdance
02-09-2007, 02:20 AM
thank you psycho...

and yes the thundercats fucking rox my sox

HinduKush83
02-09-2007, 11:43 PM
Well after kicking some Brit ass in 1776 and 1812 then being of the forgiving nature decided to help ya all out in WW1. I would imagine that we held off a bit and saw if the lil' dog could do it on their own but Pearl Harbor was the key that told us that the big dog was NEEDED again. So once again, Uncle Sam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjQYSIoU4-k) to the rescue.

By the way, your welcome! :D

Have a good one!:s4:Sorry man, but the Americans pretty much got their asses handed to them in the War of 1812....mostly from Canadian militias. Oh yea!! ;) The Americans most certainly did not WIN the war of 1812. I bet that taught you Yanks a lesson.

Next time you plan on invading Canada...bring some Pampers. :D

indecision
02-09-2007, 11:50 PM
i just wanna say that i love how people who blaze are always up on politics. lol.