My daughter got suspended for 4 days for fighting(her written story) inside

[geonagual]

I am not sure what I should do.
She has never been in trouble before, has never been suspended. Should I go and talk to the principal. The campus supervisor said my daughter and 2 of her friends were ganging up on some other girl.

Here is my daughters story. She wrote it.

She says there are a lot of witnesses.






ok today,
at school this girl was talking crap about my friends. so they deside to comfront her about it.
so they go and talk to her i wasnt even in the conversation and then they walk away when they are done.
she comes walking up to my friend and she attacks her by grabbing her wrist and twisting them. then she punched my friend in the head. so i get in the middle and break it up. and my other friend falls backwards.
so then we get called up to the office and me and my friend that fell get suspended for the rest of the week.

She is 14, but needs to start using capitol letters. LOL

[geonagual]

Well, she has showed me the paper that she signed stating what happened in the schools words. Here is what it says she did.

During lunch (my daughter) pushed another student who was fighting one of her friends.

it said her behavior violated education code blah, blah, blah.

She signed it! I can't believe her. I told her if she wasn't guilty she would not of signed it.
What do you think?

[friendowl]

you need jack bauer from 24 to get the "real" truth

if thats all that happened then go complain to the school
being suspended is great
thats no kinda punishment

if it went down how she said
be proud of her that she has a backbone

[EmoRebellion]

When I was in school I was forced to sign documents several times under threat of longer suspensions/harsher punishments. Schools dont give children time to explain their side. At my high school refusing to sign a paper was grounds for an addional 5 days suspension.

[systemofadown]

Well, she has showed me the paper that she signed stating what happened in the schools words. Here is what it says she did.

During lunch (my daughter) pushed another student who was fighting one of her friends.

it said her behavior violated education code blah, blah, blah.

She signed it! I can't believe her. I told her if she wasn't guilty she would not of signed it.
What do you think?


If you don't sign, you get in more trouble. So telling her not to sign is not a good idea.

[geonagual]

you need jack bauer from 24 to get the "real" truth

if thats all that happened then go complain to the school
being suspended is great
thats no kinda punishment

if it went down how she said
be proud of her that she has a backbone

Yeah, I will take her down there and confront them on it. See what happens. Should be fun.

She is a very loyal friend. You can't ask for more than that. I have jumped in to help friends too many times. I can't hold her at fault for that. I gave her a hug and she started crying. Great parent/child bonding moment. LOL

[geonagual]

Now, with the signing thing.

You NEVER admit your guilty if you aren't.
Hell, NEVER admit your guilty if you are.

I told her she never signs a document in school again without consulting me. I will talk to them about that tommorrow.

[Gatekeeper777]

i am 38 and need to start using capitol letters. lol
Did the other girls get suspended too?

[tootsie roll]

I am not sure what I should do.
She has never been in trouble before, has never been suspended. Should I go and talk to the principal. The campus supervisor said my daughter and 2 of her friends were ganging up on some other girl.

Here is my daughters story. She wrote it.

She says there are a lot of witnesses.






ok today,
at school this girl was talking crap about my friends. so they deside to comfront her about it.
so they go and talk to her i wasnt even in the conversation and then they walk away when they are done.
she comes walking up to my friend and she attacks her by grabbing her wrist and twisting them. then she punched my friend in the head. so i get in the middle and break it up. and my other friend falls backwards.
so then we get called up to the office and me and my friend that fell get suspended for the rest of the week.

She is 14, but needs to start using capitol letters. LOL


What I don't understand, and it makes me so sad, is why are so many teenage girls fighting? I mean really fighting.
In this day and age it spells trouble for all involved.

I know I'm not a dinasour dammit but we just didn't do that!!! Sure, we got mad at eachother and a "group" would be one or 2 friends trying to act all cool by being the back up. lol
Now kids are getting hurt and these fights? They are real....they mean them to hurt.

Like I said before, this hurts me deeply and saddens me.
Our children really aren't safe.:(

[geonagual]

i am 38 and need to start using capitol letters. lol
Did the other girls get suspended too?

They all got suspended.

[slipknotpsycho]

i think your daugther did what was right... it doesn't say she jumped into a fight and started throwing punches, it says she tried to step in between the two who were into it and seperate them....

guilty.. guilty of what exactly dude? trying to stop a fight? i'd rather be known guilty of trying ot stop a fight, then getting in the middle of it and throwing hands...

and actually that she saw the level headed way out of it and tried to prevent the violence is something to be proud of... not something that needs punishment, or any further action....

[geonagual]

i think your daugther did what was right... it doesn't say she jumped into a fight and started throwing punches, it says she tried to step in between the two who were into it and seperate them....

guilty.. guilty of what exactly dude? trying to stop a fight? i'd rather be known guilty of trying ot stop a fight, then getting in the middle of it and throwing hands...

and actually that she saw the level headed way out of it and tried to prevent the violence is something to be proud of... not something that needs punishment, or any further action....


The school said she did this

During lunch (my daughter) pushed another student who was fighting one of her friends.


and she says she was breaking up a fight. Is it the same?

[Gatekeeper777]

She did the right thing.

[friendowl]

iy you ask my boy[10]
whats lesson # 3
he will say

"never start fights ,just finish them"

[Samwhore]

4 days is nothing, im suspended for 15

well, hmm, sounds like this bitch got what was coming to her, your daughter did good, but she has to sign the paper or else they cite her for other crap for not communicating with the principal/dean or whoever caught her

[slipknotpsycho]

The school said she did this

During lunch (my daughter) pushed another student who was fighting one of her friends.


and she says she was breaking up a fight. Is it the same?

well when you're tryign to break up a fight you don't exactly step inbetween them and become a mutal punching bag.. you push (or pull if you're behind, but she was in the middle, so she wouldn't be pulling) the aggressor away from the other.... pushing isn't fighting....

if she was fighting, there woulda been pulling hair, slapping, punching, kicking, ect....

your daughter (imho) was doing what it took to break up the fight...

[slipknotpsycho]

..... what does that have to do wtih anything that i've said?

did i ever say them suspending her was wrong?

[FreeVenice]

If you don't sign, you get in more trouble. So telling her not to sign is not a good idea.

My parents told me the same thing. NEVER SIGN SOMETHING WITHOUT PARENTS CONSENT. They told me to never sign a thing, so I never did. I was a little trouble some in school so I cad a few contracts put in front of me. One was just a lame student waver that I didn't feel was needed for me to learn history, and then I got like 3 for fighting. All came with the threat for longer suspension. I didn't sign a one without at least one of my parents present and thats how I plan to have it for my kids. Schools like to word things in the favor of one individual. None of the things that they threatened to do to me if I didn't sign happened. Signing those papers signs away your innocence.

Also I heard that contracts signed by a person under the age of 18, without there guardians consent, are VOID. I think my mom has actually used this argument when they tryed to give me community service, which I didn't have to do. Go, mom. . .

[Skink]

This is just her first lesson in how unjust the world is...Explain that life will be like that sometimes and to prepare to fight for your right for justice... then give her an Ice Cream for watching her friends Back...

[aznson01]

i think ur daughter fucked a bitch up and this is no big deal it will blow over... lol teen drama dont worry about it pops


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[geonagual]

I have decided to not make a big deal of this with the school. I understand that they have a zero tolerance policy and I am good with that and I believe that is how it should be. I told my daughter that it is good that she stuck up for her friend but to be a lot smarter about things next time. ie..nothing on school grounds and using her brain rather than being physical. I told her that if her friend is going around starting shit and getting her involved that maybe it is time to find another friend.

She thinks she is having a party. I come home from work today and my daughter and her 2 friends got the stereo blasting and just having a good ole time. I sent her friends home, had her do the dishes, clean the kitchen, clean her room. Then after school was out, I took her up to the school to get all the schoolwork that she is missing out this week. I did let her know that she is not in trouble, but these days off are no party. I have a list of stuff she will be doing tommorrow.

[noruth]

making someone sign something with any type of threat/intimidation/coersion is duress and it negates what was signed. Tell her to sign it (so she will not gain more problems) but sign it as: Jane Doe signature acknowledging reciept only.
OR:
Jane Doe under duress

If they buck explain to them many stats have laws prohibiting someone questioning a person under 16 w/o a parent you support your daughter and any further communication regarding the document should be made directly to your attorney.
your daughter did the right thing trying to seperate them now what is the school trying to teach her about doing the right thing.