Are these lights any good???

[wildchick]

We r preparing to put in 20 seeds and want to start and veg. under c.f.l.'s and see the results. We found these lights and wanted to know how you all felt about them and if they would be worth getting and using. ???

eBay: 4 / 75W Hydroponics Grow Clone Light T5 , lite 2700k (item 190073690688 end time Jan-24-07 20:27:30 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190073690688&rd=1&rd=1)


eBay: 4 PACK PHILIPS 100 WATT COMPACT FLUORESCENT LIGHT BULBS (item 110080863677 end time Jan-25-07 06:40:51 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110080863677&rd=1&rd=1)


Thanks for EVERYTHING everyone....


Jamie

[MisterE]

I'm sure they're decent, but honestly check your grocery store :) Mine carries those bulbs and many more CFL's for very decent prices. I think a 3 pack is $8 or so. I use CFL's in every socket in my house too ;)

[Zandor]

Well I would look up the manufacture and check out his calms that they are as good as T5. That I would check out very carefully my friend before I put down any cash for anything.

T5 is about as good as they get in fluorescent lights these day's.

[Racerx]

Well I would look up the manufacture and check out his calms that they are as good as T5. That I would check out very carefully my friend before I put down any cash for anything.

T5 is about as good as they get in fluorescent lights these day's.

yeah T5 HO are expensive for a reason. lights are not something you want to skimp to hard on...them being the main thing that makes your plant grow. You get what you pay for in the end.

[deftdrummer]

Racer x you are a god among men. I agree 100% - if you get a grow light spend at least $200 and get a good one or you will be kicking yourself later no joke.

[lmdesade]

Don't buy either of those at least not off of Ebay. Both of those adds are kind of bogus. They aren't 75 or 100 watters. For instance, these 3 cfl lights will blow any of those away on Ebay. They do cost more though

ValuTek Compact Fluorescent Lights (http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/prod1;ft1_lighting_fixtures_bulbs-ft1_light_bulbs_1;pg103995.html)
The 55 watt and the 125 watt are both medium based sockets as well. They also have a good spectrum for veg. If you are going to buy off the web get a a little better cfl or as mentioned just go to home depot and pick up a pack off of the shelf for cheap.

[alwayssleepdeprived]

Good call on the cfl's in your house MisterE...I've done the same thing and found it helped the electric bill...They say every regular bulb you switch out not only saves you money in bulb costs but takes like a million cars or somethin off the road...

I've heard great things about the T5's but the easiest thing to check is just the rating of the bulb itself...find out the manufacturer and then look up at a search engine the specifications like the spectrum and kelvin temp...I've read that low kelvin temp bulbs are good for veg around 2000-3000 kelvin and 4000-65000 kelvin are good for bloom but you can read as indepth as ya want on the subject...I know when I got my floro's I just went with GE 20W grow lights and they've worked just fine for me...I wouldn't worry so much if yer just getting a few cheapies to get the grow started rather spend some serious time deciding how you are going to bloom them cause the light you choose for that will vary widely depending on how much ya want to yield and the temps of the room etc

[JackdaWack]

Good call on the cfl's in your house MisterE...I've done the same thing and found it helped the electric bill...They say every regular bulb you switch out not only saves you money in bulb costs but takes like a million cars or somethin off the road...

I've heard great things about the T5's but the easiest thing to check is just the rating of the bulb itself...find out the manufacturer and then look up at a search engine the specifications like the spectrum and kelvin temp...I've read that low kelvin temp bulbs are good for veg around 2000-3000 kelvin and 4000-65000 kelvin are good for bloom but you can read as indepth as ya want on the subject...I know when I got my floro's I just went with GE 20W grow lights and they've worked just fine for me...I wouldn't worry so much if yer just getting a few cheapies to get the grow started rather spend some serious time deciding how you are going to bloom them cause the light you choose for that will vary widely depending on how much ya want to yield and the temps of the room etc

ehhh.... ur alittle backwards on the specrum/kelvin. I use standard t12/t8 lights, there cheap and get the vegging done, then a nice hps for flower. t5 by newtek makes nice stuff and its a whole set up. u have many mnay options,

[alwayssleepdeprived]

yer right jack good catch...sorry I was kinda lit last night when I was posting haha flip the temp ranges for veg and flower in my post and those shuld be right

[JackdaWack]

haha yeah were all there many a many times

[GDS StonerBoy]

would the hps really increase my yield that much over the t5?

[biff]

Its all a matter of lumens as far as im concerned, I use T5's exclusively for alot of reasons, but mainly because I get the same results, if not better then my friends do with HPS lamps. I have two 4ft/4 bulb T5 H/O lights and when my plants are under them the growth is unreal. I just started to use two recently though, for a while I used only one 4ft/4 bulb H/O lamp, but the results were every bit as good IMHO. Best way to do it is just to try both and decide for yourself. I just like them because its low on electricity, and heat. :thumbsup:

- mike :jointsmile:

[alwayssleepdeprived]

lumens are a rating of the light coming off the bulb but I generally worry more about the PAR rating of the bulb cause that's what makes the plant grow...if a bulb produces 100,000 lumens but only 10k lumens are in the right spectrum it's still not as good as a 50,000 lumen bulb with 20k lumens in the right spectrum or PAR...

I'd go with floro for veg and hps for flower the size and type of bulb you get depends on the type of grow you are gonna have...sativa/indica take different light levels too sativa like much more and hotter temps generally