Zandor Help!

[supersonicchronic]

Zandor, long time no see... How you been?

I remember you saying something like... "Stop feeding nitrogen the last 14 days of flower", is this right, or did I read it wrong? I cant find it anywhere.
I bought some calmag max from millenium, it contains no nitrogen, right now I'm using a Lucas formula of 100-100-200-60, what do you reccomend for late flowering? I was thinking maybe 20-100-200-60????

Thanks man

[Hagbard Celiene]

not to sure about the rest of the stuff, but im pretty sure you want to feed high n lowp for veg... and low n high p for flower, so like a 24-6-18 for veg, and 6-24-18 for flower, and cut firts at least two weeks before flower, then flush... but don't take my word for it...

[supersonicchronic]

Sorry forgot to mention...this is my first try at hydro. Thanks for the reply above, but I think not feeding the last 14 days is for dirt, it only takes around 3-7 days for a proper hydro flush

[Hagbard Celiene]

true, it should still be a high n for veg, high p for bloom though...

[Zandor]

Ok, Ok.

You should STOP feeding "N" 10-14 day's before you START your flush dirt or hydro.

Sorry for yelling but I needed to make the point.

The reason is this:

The plant will use up the stored chlorophyll and speed up the cure time. There is no need for "N" at this cycle of life, you are cutting it down in a matter of weeks anyway so make the plant use up its stored energy and produce large fat flowers.

When you cut and trim then cure properly this will save you several weeks off the cure time for good quality buds.

Check the FAQ of drying and curing your buds so you do it right if you have questions.

[Zandor]

And I am fine supersonicchronic we got moved and I am here now. I still have crap to do on the sale of the other house but all is good now.

My show is back on track and I hope not to miss another one.

Thanks for asking.

[supersonicchronic]

Love the show, glad your doin good. It's a tricky time right now for the real estate market. Finally got my med card:D, landed some sour diesel and strawberry diesel, and finally learned how to calculate a good nute mix so hopefully I can produce some nice meds.

[Zandor]

Love the show, glad your doin good. It's a tricky time right now for the real estate market. Finally got my med card:D, landed some sour diesel and strawberry diesel, and finally learned how to calculate a good nute mix so hopefully I can produce some nice meds.

Right on..just know with diesel you need to be carefull with nutrients they can over feed on you quickly so watch for that.

You can always add more but taking it out shocks the plant so bump it up slowley and just watch how the plant reacts.

Proper Ph control is a must for anything diesel just incase you did not know that.

[supersonicchronic]

Thanks Zandor. Can you tell me how you do your add backs, cause as I'm understanding I'm stressing the plants by adding back with just plain water. Maybe I should switch to ebb and flow buckets where you have a seperate rez thats always consistent. Right now I have 3 plants in a 12 gallon dwc bin, water is going through a chiller @ 68 degrees, and then going right back in the 12 gallon tub. Pretty much everyday I add back, sometimes with plain water, and sometimes with full strength nutes. I think I need a little more stability.

[Zandor]

ok well how about mixing up your nutrients and make it an extra say 20 gallons. Now you have one mix that is now a full rez and then your fill back nutrients too. Just keep up your Ph and top off with those and you are fine.

You do a full water change every 7-10 day's anyway right?

Now if you don't have proper drainage or fast enough to switch out the nutrients anyway from the bucket to the rez then the ph in the bucket can be different then what you have in the rez so just keep that in mind.

[supersonicchronic]

Cool, thanks. Do you have to do a res change every 7-10 days even if you have a huge tub, say 10 gallons for each plant? Thats a lotta water and nutes, but I guess the end result is worth it (If you go cheap you grow cheap). I wanna put all your podcast shows on a psp or somethin. Very insightful-

If anyone is having trouble getting that nasty mix from the very bottom of the res...Look no further.

Type in karosene pump in ebay.
Pretty sweeeet

[Zandor]

Use less nutrients and water then but the 7-10 change is spot on to avoid most problems and to provide quality nutrients just when the plants want's them. But you only need to change them IF you are following the cycle of life.

If you are just using average grow and average flower then 3 times the amount the plant uses. so 15 gallon res for a 5 gallon plant then you can change then every 2 weeks and just top off.

Personally I prefer the Cycle of life the plants are healthier and healthy is good if you want to grow larger buds.

The cycle of life does require the proper nutrients and boosters though.

The general is safer

It is up to you and your budget how you grow, but thanks for listening to the show and let me know if you have more questions, I'm happy to try to help.

[supersonicchronic]

Awesome... Do you have a chart, or a link to a chart that shows what ppms of N-P-K-mg, that the plants like at different stages?

[supersonicchronic]

I know it's probably depends on the strain, but a guideline would be cool. Maybe like 3 stages for veg, and 3 stages for flower. Example Mid flower would be 100-100-200-60, or somethin like that.:rastasmoke:

Love the show-

[supersonicchronic]

Do you have any good links to a recurculating DWC, with a water chiller?

[Zandor]

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/25080-charts-other-stuff-you-can-use.html

Both carts you need are here dude.

The cycle of life works for every plant but the strength of the nutrients may vary depending on the strain. That is why you keep logs to track what you did so you know and not just guess each time.

I don't know of anybody who spends the money to run or buy a chiller for DWC buckets. Sorry dude can't help there.