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slipknotpsycho
01-17-2007, 03:48 AM
well new to me anyways... basicly it's a drawing of a dog talking to his owner... the guy's holding a blunt in his hand and the dog starts telling him to quit or whatever and when the dude says 'maybe next week' or something like that, the dog says 'you dissapoint me'

oh noes!!!! i'm going to dissapoint my dog if i don't quit... boo-fucking-hoo...

god these commercials are just getting more and more retarded.

BabyFacedAbortion
01-17-2007, 03:50 AM
I saw that today...I was like "dude, that sucks..you're making your dog sad.." then I was like "BLOW A HIT IN HIS FACE!!!"

-shrug-

Markass
01-17-2007, 03:51 AM
Aren't we all glad to see that our tax dollars are going towards things like this?

harris7
01-17-2007, 03:51 AM
i get my dog high,

now he's the one with the problem
keeps taking my stash

MacWQ33
01-17-2007, 03:54 AM
LOL I saw one yesterday about legal drugs. Kids are driving in a car down the street and all the house's are lit up saying 'free drugs'...then it's like..."these days kids can get high on cough syrup and all kinds of prescription pills that are readily available in households" (in case you didn't know...now you know haha).

It also mentioned a statistic like...more kids abuse cough medicine then herion, meth, and ecstasy combined. Wtf? I guess that's a good thing? I'd say ecstasy is safer than cough syrup...I dunno why they lump that in with herion and meth lol.

harris7
01-17-2007, 04:03 AM
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/pubs/drugs-drogues/straight_talk-parlons_franchement/parents_e.html#facts

heres the Canadian Gov's page on Cannabis. It's got a few "lies" but it's not bad IMO.

harris7
01-17-2007, 04:05 AM
\I dunno why they lump that in with herion and meth lol.

very good point. Drugs are very different. So one would think that each would need a different approach. but in the US there all the same

MastaChronic
01-17-2007, 04:14 AM
lol, i want some of what that guy is smoking, a drawing of a dog starts talking to him...man, i want some of that

MacWQ33
01-17-2007, 04:17 AM
very good point. Drugs are very different. So one would think that each would need a different approach. but in the US there all the same

Well they used to have an ecstasy one...about the girl dying (the only drug found in her system was ecstasy [ecstasy is not a drug..it's a word used to describe a pill that is "supposed to contain" MDMA, but hardly does])...but that later was proven wrong and criticized (you can't die from MDMA alone)...so like you said, lump it all together...that might work (although everyone knows it won't).

I'd love to see a mushrooms commercial LOL...

EDIT: I love how we don't even understand half this shit...and we're the ones "on weed".

Markass
01-17-2007, 04:21 AM
LOL I saw one yesterday about legal drugs. Kids are driving in a car down the street and all the house's are lit up saying 'free drugs'...then it's like..."these days kids can get high on cough syrup and all kinds of prescription pills that are readily available in households" (in case you didn't know...now you know haha).

It also mentioned a statistic like...more kids abuse cough medicine then herion, meth, and ecstasy combined. Wtf? I guess that's a good thing? I'd say ecstasy is safer than cough syrup...I dunno why they lump that in with herion and meth lol.

lol, we need to make one with them riding on the 'bad' side of town with every house lit up saying "buy marijuana here" and then it displays..."Pretty scary huh? It worked with tobacco and alcohol..Regulate marijuana. It's the only way to keep it out of the hands of your children."

SkatePopwar
01-17-2007, 04:22 AM
Well they used to have an ecstasy one...about the girl dying (the only drug found in her system was ecstasy [ecstasy is not a drug..it's a word used to describe a pill that is "supposed to contain" MDMA, but hardly does])...but that later was proven wrong and criticized (you can't die from MDMA alone)...so like you said, lump it all together...that might work (although everyone knows it won't).

I'd love to see a mushrooms commercial LOL...

EDIT: I love how we don't even understand half this shit...and we're the ones "on weed".

a mushrooms one would probably have me on the floor in a fit of laughs :jointsmile:

MacWQ33
01-17-2007, 04:29 AM
lol, we need to make one with them riding on the 'bad' side of town with every house lit up saying "buy marijuana here" and then it displays..."Pretty scary huh? It worked with tobacco and alcohol..Regulate marijuana. It's the only way to keep it out of the hands of your children."

This one was pretty funny actually. The kids were like in awe pointing at the houses like they were riding around checking out Christmas lights or something. I know a lot of people know about the cough medicine thing...but I bet a hell of a lot of kids have no clue...and that just lets 'em know.

Markass
01-17-2007, 04:31 AM
This one was pretty funny actually. The kids were like in awe pointing at the houses like they were riding around checking out Christmas lights or something. I know a lot of people know about the cough medicine thing...but I bet a hell of a lot of kids have no clue...and that just lets 'em know.

I agree completely...I can relate this to when the meth epidemic had really just started in oklahoma..before henry passed the pseudophedrine law...The news stations ran segments on the ingredients to methamphetamine and how people make it quickly, etc...Basically, how easy it was to obtain the ingredients and put em' all together to make you a big batch of dope. Yup, it doesn't make much sense to me.

Way2many
01-17-2007, 04:31 AM
whoever made this comericall must have been fucked up eh?.

slipknotpsycho
01-17-2007, 04:36 AM
what about a frog licking commercial? lol... they'd probably like show you all the places a frog goes and all the things 'it gets on it' ina day, then be like "only idiots would stick their tounge on that" or some shit...

hello3pat
01-17-2007, 04:37 AM
man, can someone link me to this commercial, I haven't seen it

slipknotpsycho
01-17-2007, 04:39 AM
it was an above the influence one, checked on their site and it's not there, guess they haven't put it up yet.

harris7
01-17-2007, 05:45 AM
anyone know the youtube links for the ads?

lesstutrey
01-17-2007, 05:50 AM
i haven't seen this ad, but i must say crappy ad's like that is what is causing the increased drug use amongst baby boomers. They're fed up with the inane bullshit the 30 year old "war on drugs" has brought with it.

2600HERTZ
01-17-2007, 06:51 AM
It's funny though....

People who supposedly don't smoke and make these commercials, are less effective and more retarded than any smoker I have EVER met. Maybe some of these people should toke up.

Then they could make a more effective ad.

EbelEyes
01-17-2007, 09:03 AM
well new to me anyways... basicly it's a drawing of a dog talking to his owner... the guy's holding a blunt in his hand and the dog starts telling him to quit or whatever and when the dude says 'maybe next week' or something like that, the dog says 'you dissapoint me'

oh noes!!!! i'm going to dissapoint my dog if i don't quit... boo-fucking-hoo...

god these commercials are just getting more and more retarded.

"Can't you just walk yourself?"

'You dissapoint me'

and lets not forget the other one...

"I smoke pot to impress the ladies!"

"Try football"

LIP
01-17-2007, 12:53 PM
That kind of advert seems to be directed at 5 year olds that belive dogs care about smoking...

God, these anti cannabis adverts are geting stupider and stupider. Why are they allowed to air it on TV?

There has to be laws against flat out lies being broadcast... Oh, i forgot, our governments dont want us to know the truth..

420izzle
01-17-2007, 04:51 PM
I get my dog high. She loves it and, like that lady from India, is OLD. It's extended her life man. She's like 124 in dog years or whatever. She's 16! (and that's old for a big dog).

I saw that commercial with the dog and blunt owner with my wife and kids last night. I just had to roll my eyes. How confusing can theymake these fucked up messages to our kids. They didn't know what hit them after that.

LIP
01-17-2007, 05:33 PM
It's sickening.

What is every government going on about constantly? Education. Yet they seems to "educate" kids with complete bullshit.

It gets me so angry i cant talk about it.

thebeancounter41
01-17-2007, 06:06 PM
The government probably pays well for those dumbasses over at ATI to spew out these pointless commercials. Some of them are informative, but a lot of them are not.

It's all about the facts. And since we don't know the 100% truth on weed, it's all up in the air. You believe who you want. It's all too sketchy to be 100% sure.

Moody Blues.Your signature that is.From days of future past I believe.

thebeancounter41
01-17-2007, 06:16 PM
but that later was proven wrong and criticized (you can't die from MDMA alone).

Says who???I happen to know that you CAN die from MDMA.If you take a large enough dose (and a lot of idiots think eating a tab every hour is a good idea).MDMA is an AMPHETAMINE.And like meth, it CAN kill you with an overdose, or kill you bit by bit by slowly damaging your heart muscle and several other vital organs.
So posting an outright LIE like you just did, IS NOT helping anyone.except maybe the govt agencies who like to point out just how IGNORANT stoners are.

2MC5
01-17-2007, 06:18 PM
u guys got some stupid ads in the US we got no anti drug ads down here!!!

well there was one on weed but that was like 2 years ago i think
i think they gave up lol

2MC5
01-17-2007, 06:20 PM
yep xtc fucks u up

harris7
01-17-2007, 06:25 PM
That kind of advert seems to be directed at 5 year olds that belive dogs care about smoking...

God, these anti cannabis adverts are geting stupider and stupider. Why are they allowed to air it on TV?

There has to be laws against flat out lies being broadcast... Oh, i forgot, our governments dont want us to know the truth..

the cannabis community should go together and put so pro-cannabis ads up!
with real information:rasta:

harris7
01-17-2007, 06:35 PM
Says who???I happen to know that you CAN die from MDMA.If you take a large enough dose (and a lot of idiots think eating a tab every hour is a good idea).MDMA is an AMPHETAMINE.And like meth, it CAN kill you with an overdose, or kill you bit by bit by slowly damaging your heart muscle and several other vital organs.
So posting an outright LIE like you just did, IS NOT helping anyone.except maybe the govt agencies who like to point out just how IGNORANT stoners are.


The bean is right!
Cannabis is VERy unique in the fact that you cannot overdose from it. You can overdose from any substance. Just with Cannabis it is physically impossible to consume the amount fast enough.

More so, people very frequently die from over exerting their bodies or from over heating while high. So it can kill you in two ways.

MacWQ33
01-17-2007, 07:30 PM
Says who???I happen to know that you CAN die from MDMA.If you take a large enough dose (and a lot of idiots think eating a tab every hour is a good idea).MDMA is an AMPHETAMINE.And like meth, it CAN kill you with an overdose, or kill you bit by bit by slowly damaging your heart muscle and several other vital organs.
So posting an outright LIE like you just did, IS NOT helping anyone.except maybe the govt agencies who like to point out just how IGNORANT stoners are.

It's not ignorant when it's been proven. I shouldn't have said never though. Here's some info for ya (link at bottom)...showing the number of deaths per 100,000 users/year for MDMA, alcohol, and tobacco (if the link doesn't work, let me know). We all know alcohol and tobacco combine for about 500,000 deaths a year. MDMA...2 deaths per 100,000 users...and those were probably due to something else anyway. There are many ways to die resulting from use, there's no doubt about that. I was just talking about the substance itself...if used properly, is actually rather safe...just like LSD...same kind of situation. I don't want to advocate the use of any drugs...I was just saying that even the ANTI-ECSTASY agency pulled that commercial because it was proven incorrect. So...why you yelling at me...I'm not the one who believes deaths are rare to none...even the ones trying to get you to not use the drug believe so LOL. There was also a chart showing that the number of emergancy room visits among MDMA were one of the lowest...and marijuana had about 10 times more visits....not to say it's safer, but there can be risks with any substance..

It also notes on the DEA website...."Equally important in considering risks is that, while there is no safe way to be a pack-a-day cigarette smoker, most of the people that died as a result of their MDMA use did something unwise to cause their demise."

Here's the most interesting thing I have ever seen... http://youtube.com/watch?v=yt6PHhOZ32g
Ecstasy rising...it's an NBC Primetime special documenting MDMA use and it's history (it only became illegal in 1985!!)...I suggest if you're interested..you should watch it. It's crazy, because this special seems to suggest MDMA is very safe...weird because NBC has a reputation to keep...but it's the truth, so how can you denie it.


Sorry for this....do NOT use MDMA (I don't even use it really maybe once a year...but I believe in spreading the truth about not only marijuana..but any substance that can have benefits and has bullshit surrounding it)....this was simply to help some members understand the truth, and just to prove them wrong, because I'm so IGNORANT. Good day.

LIP
01-17-2007, 07:33 PM
Most deaths from MDMA are from drinking too much water and over dosing on that. It mucks something inside you up, i cant think what its called, but i know Stormcrow knows.

Alot of deaths from illegal drugs are not directly because of the drug.

MacWQ33
01-17-2007, 07:38 PM
Most deaths from MDMA are from drinking too much water and over dosing on that. It mucks something inside you up, i cant think what its called, but i know Stormcrow knows.

Alot of deaths from illegal drugs are not directly because of the drug.

Very true...much like LSD (and cannabis if you think about it)..you can injure or kill yourself doing something stupid. But you will not die from taking 100 hits of it..

Stick to cannabis though kids....other drugs can fuck with your head...no arguement about that.

Damn... I didn't want to spend my 999th and 1000th post proving ignorant people wrong...that sucks. See what you made do!!!

LIP
01-17-2007, 07:42 PM
Very true...much like LSD (and cannabis if you think about it)..you can injure or kill yourself doing something stupid. But you will not die from taking 100 hits of it..

Stick to cannabis though kids....other drugs can fuck with your head...no arguement about that.

Damn... I didn't want to spend my 999th and 1000th post proving ignorant people wrong...that sucks. See what you made do!!!

Indeed. Acid is a perfect example of an EXTREMLY safe drug. BUT, like you said, people doing stupid things while stoned/tripping/rollin/and drunk are going to get hurt.

But because it's not because of the drug deirectly, it's not the drugs fault.

Most people get stoned/drunk/trip without trying to fly, so the people that DO try and do these stupid things bring it on themselves for not being responcible.

mfqr
01-17-2007, 07:42 PM
The bean is right!
Cannabis is VERy unique in the fact that you cannot overdose from it. You can overdose from any substance. Just with Cannabis it is physically impossible to consume the amount fast enough.

More so, people very frequently die from over exerting their bodies or from over heating while high. So it can kill you in two ways.

I think they said you'd have to smoke the amount of your body weight, or something, in a day, to be able to overdose. However, that's humanly impossible. However, I wonder if you cooked all of that weed into some REALLY potent ganja butter, and made a few VERY VERY POTENT brownies, if you could then possibly overdose? Afterall, you could consume a whole brownie in an instant. What do you guys think?

iStaaHi
01-17-2007, 07:44 PM
`in some comercials they go on abot the crazy shit nit waill MAKE yoiu do and in others it goes on about how itl just make you sit on petes couch for 12 hours, haha

LIP
01-17-2007, 07:47 PM
I think they said you'd have to smoke the amount of your body weight, or something, in a day, to be able to overdose. However, that's humanly impossible. However, I wonder if you cooked all of that weed into some REALLY potent ganja butter, and made a few VERY VERY POTENT brownies, if you could then possibly overdose? Afterall, you could consume a whole brownie in an instant. What do you guys think?

You'd need to smoke about 1500 pounds of cannabis to induce a lethal responce. = Impossible.

I doubt you'd be able to eat that much either, you'd be sick before you could reach it.

As for the smoking, any tests would automatically be void, as you'd die from oxygen depravation.

iStaaHi
01-17-2007, 07:48 PM
THE GOVERMANT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE IF THEY JUST SAID WHAT PARENTS SAID ,,, "dubya? why cant i smoke weed?" "because i said so"

LIP
01-17-2007, 07:49 PM
Parents say "because i said so" because they have no reason, they just dont agree with it, so basically that's forcing their child to except THEIR opinions.

Parents who say "Because i said so" are bad parents. Period.

For a child to respect them, and what they say they have to give a valid reason they dont want the child doing it.

iStaaHi
01-17-2007, 07:56 PM
and does the government have a solid reason for bud to be illegal?

LIP
01-17-2007, 08:00 PM
Absolutly not.

The only reason it is still illegal is because they dont want to be exposed as the idiots they are. They've gone on and on about how bad it is, yet if they legalised it they'd have to admit they were lying to the country they work for, and then no one would belive anything they'd say.

Then people wouldnt vote.

You can tell where im going.

The government were wrong to make it illegal, and they are wrong to keep it illegal.

MastaChronic
01-17-2007, 08:00 PM
and does the government have a solid reason for bud to be illegal?

because it would blow a shitload of big companies out of the economic lake, including oil companies, textile companies, paper industries, and a bunch others....
of course, the government cant just say this because it would piss a bunch of people off....like the american public...

N3D FLANDERS
01-17-2007, 08:31 PM
because it would blow a shitload of big companies out of the economic lake, including oil companies, textile companies, paper industries, and a bunch others....
of course, the government cant just say this because it would piss a bunch of people off....like the american public...

*stated in a non sarcastic tone* Could you explain that one to me?


and also yes i have seen the commercial
its teh best

Ibu Jari
01-17-2007, 08:53 PM
*stated in a non sarcastic tone* Could you explain that one to me?


and also yes i have seen the commercial
its teh best


The growing, selling and buying of legal bud would be so lucrative that it would be the #1 business in the US. Topping the production of oil companies, textile companies, paper industries, ect.

And by pissing off the American public, well, that's because Americans are being told here there and everywhere that "weed is bad" "Weed will make you a junkie" "Weed is the gateway drug"

N3D FLANDERS
01-17-2007, 08:54 PM
ok true but how would that HURT other business thats what i don't get

LIP
01-17-2007, 08:55 PM
And all of those statements have been proven wrong time and time again :D

Ibu Jari
01-17-2007, 09:04 PM
ok true but how would that HURT other business thats what i don't get

If it were leagl to purchase weed, then there would be hundreds of new compaines over night. Some of these companies would surely have stock and other forms of investments right? Now, imagine how dynamically that would change the whole economic scene.

LIP
01-17-2007, 09:12 PM
I think if it were legal people would grow it, rather than buy it from shops.

Ibu Jari
01-17-2007, 09:15 PM
Oh certianly a lot of people would grow. But the shops would of course have seeds with "samples" or vice versa.

Not to mention, not many people have adequate space for growing, and obtaining space isn't always an option. For example, our house, there isn't really a good place, not in a 3 bed 2 bath, single story house with a partial crawlspace. And two kids, two cats, and too much shit to do a closet grow. So, we'd still be buying until a few years from now when we can afford to move and chose a space just for growing, either indoors or outdoor (probably in)

thebeancounter41
01-17-2007, 09:29 PM
Most deaths from MDMA are from drinking too much water and over dosing on that. It mucks something inside you up, i cant think what its called, but i know Stormcrow knows.

Alot of deaths from illegal drugs are not directly because of the drug.

actually they get heatstroke or something similar from FORGETTING to hydrate during an X trip.When you're rolling, you can easily forget to keep properly hydrated.But X can still kill you if you abuse it.It's not like weed which is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to OD on.And it DOES do permanent damage to vital organs like your heart muscle with long term usage.

LIP
01-17-2007, 09:32 PM
actually they get heatstroke or something similar from FORGETTING to hydrate during an X trip.When you're rolling, you can easily forget to keep properly hydrated.But X can still kill you if you abuse it.It's not like weed which is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to OD on.And it DOES do permanent damage to vital organs like your heart muscle with long term usage.

No, your wrong. Most deaths are from excessive water comsumption because people are trying NOT to dehydrate.

And i NEVER said anything about it causing other damage.

It's well known that MDMA is an Amphetamine. And amphetatmines are known to increase heart rate, and as the heart is a muscle, it'll grow.

I didnt disagree with you about MDMA being bad for you, in large amounts.

But im small amounts it IS fairly safe.

thebeancounter41
01-17-2007, 09:38 PM
It's not ignorant when it's been proven.
Sorry for this....do NOT use MDMA.Good day.

But it HASN'T been proven.You stated plainly that X NEVER killed anyone and then come back with"well maybe a few here and there"
It's much more than a few.Nothing near the legal poisons like alcohol and cigarettes, but still nowhere's near "safe".
Responsible, well adjusted adults can use X with little health risk,but you'll notice I said WELL ADJUSTED and RESPONSIBLE ADULT.Which means they did their research on it and studied things thoroughly before experimenting with it.I use RC's that are mostly close analogs of X, just less roll and more visuals.Also much less rise in bloodpressure using the one's I use.X will raise my BP WAY too high.Makes me sweat like a fountain and raises my body temp.So I avoid it for those reasons.2CT2 on the other hand, won't raise my BP more than 5 or 10 points which I can deal with.And I can count on several hours of intense acid like visuals too.

thebeancounter41
01-17-2007, 09:44 PM
And LIP, I wasn't saying you said anything about other health risks,I just heard that dehydration caused more OD's on X than overhydration.I've drunk myself silly with water on numerous occassions and it never killed me.But I have come close to death several times from dehydration and heatstroke.(From working a farm in my teens in a heatwave, NOT from X)

Ibu Jari
01-17-2007, 09:44 PM
No, your wrong. Most deaths are from excessive water comsumption because people are trying NOT to dehydrate.

And i NEVER said anything about it causing other damage.

It's well known that MDMA is an Amphetamine. And amphetatmines are known to increase heart rate, and as the heart is a muscle, it'll grow.

I didnt disagree with you about MDMA being bad for you, in large amounts.

But im small amounts it IS fairly safe.

Yes, this is true. Out of fear or myth that they will dehydrate rapidly those who chose to roll will drink excessive amounts of water for their activity level. For example, just sitting there, at least 8 oz an hour, at a rave, they're drinking at least 16 oz an hour.


Now, LIP a question for you. Where did you read that small amounts of MDMA are safe. I would like to see this information for myself.

I have rolled before, but my husband hasn't, and would like to try it, but would like for me to join him.

LIP
01-17-2007, 09:47 PM
Yes, this is true. Out of fear or myth that they will dehydrate rapidly those who chose to roll will drink excessive amounts of water for their activity level. For example, just sitting there, at least 8 oz an hour, at a rave, they're drinking at least 16 oz an hour.


Now, LIP a question for you. Where did you read that small amounts of MDMA are safe. I would like to see this information for myself.

I have rolled before, but my husband hasn't, and would like to try it, but would like for me to join him.

Small amounts consumed ocassionally are fairly safe, i dont have any info on it, because i dont really agree with X.

If i were you i wouldnt bother. It's hard to get pure MDMA anyway, you never know what its cut with.

Stay safe and smoke ganj.

Ibu Jari
01-17-2007, 09:53 PM
That's what I keep telling the hubby. I'm nursing our toddler still, so I'm not gonna do it at all until later if I do it. Having only ever rolled twice before, it's not something I'd take lightly ever.

Besides, I much prefer my high with the herb, especially since I can snap out of it if nessary. I tried that with X and it didn't happen. It was kinda scary.

LIP
01-17-2007, 09:58 PM
That's what I keep telling the hubby. I'm nursing our toddler still, so I'm not gonna do it at all until later if I do it. Having only ever rolled twice before, it's not something I'd take lightly ever.

Besides, I much prefer my high with the herb, especially since I can snap out of it if nessary. I tried that with X and it didn't happen. It was kinda scary.

Im glad to hear it!

The thing with weed is you KNOW your 100% safe, so it's an added comfort. Even while MDMA is fairly safe in small doses, you never know, same with coke, and all the other dangerous drugs.

MacWQ33
01-17-2007, 10:02 PM
RC's?...it's basically like you're the guinea pig for these random drugs. Yeah...that's a lot safer than a substance that much research has been done about and people take everyday? I wasn't stating my 'beliefs' or MY opinion...I just said a commercial made by anti-drug associations telling people NOT to take ecstasy found out THEY were wrong, so they discontinued the commercial. To me, that says a lot...but to his their own. Just watch the special...it might change your mind...They interview the chemist who created the drug..and even he says "I myself, along with 1000's of people I know..have taken 1000's of hits and there have been no negative effects." There is also no proof that these people didn't die from something else being in the pill or from other complications. Just think about it with an open mind...if you sit on your couch and pop pills...you're going to be fine, you're not going to die...but if you're dancing and flirting with heat exhaustion, drinking too much water, rising of your heart rate...of course death could be coming for you...but it would be due to the INdirect use of the drug...not the direct use. But whatever..I'm done with the drug talk to today... if you want to discuss this more...go to www.bluelight.nu , go to the MDMA forum, and try to tell those people they're going to die..maybe they can give you some links to studies and such...it's a pretty big forum over there like this one..seriously check it out.

IBU JARI...check out the bluelight site (you can ask any question you want at the forums or just read the threads)...or watch the 'Ecstasy rising' documentary..or Erowid....everything you need to know...

Ibu Jari
01-17-2007, 10:04 PM
Yes, way too dangerous. I was honestly a little nervous about the weed when my husband started brining it home because he didn't really know the supplier. Now he does, and we know it's good stuff. I'm much more comfortable with this method of getting high.

the rolling was fun when I was 17.


~*~We'll all float on ok~*~

MastaChronic
01-17-2007, 10:06 PM
*stated in a non sarcastic tone* Could you explain that one to me?


and also yes i have seen the commercial
its teh best

are you truly interested in it or is this just something....a passing interest?

http://jackherer.com/chapter09.html
i suggest you read the whole book though.

MacWQ33
01-17-2007, 10:15 PM
Yes, way too dangerous. I was honestly a little nervous about the weed when my husband started brining it home because he didn't really know the supplier. Now he does, and we know it's good stuff. I'm much more comfortable with this method of getting high.

the rolling was fun when I was 17.


~*~We'll all float on ok~*~

Yeah like LIP said, you never know what you're going to get. That's the biggest risk involved and it's a shame. The drug used to be used in therapy and counseling...but when it started going through the dance scene..people got all crazy with the propaganda (much like marijuana)..and now it has a bad reputation. It was outlawed in 1985, but it has been given the OK to be used in studies recently with the possiblity of it being able to be used medicinally. Check out bluelight...they are a community like this...and hail the benefits of the substance, not the bogus propaganda that the government hands out. The site helped me make my decision when I was on the fence....OK I'M DONE!!! Sorry Cannabis.com for this 'cross-over'...I just hate misinformation....!!

Ibu Jari
01-17-2007, 10:24 PM
Mac thanks for the info. It's been a few years since i was 17, so any info is good infor. I might check it out when we're ready to make our final decision on the issue.

station
01-18-2007, 05:47 AM
what about a frog licking commercial? lol... .

that was a great family guy episode.

and as for it goes for X . that shit fucks u up. take it from me i did that fuckin shit for to long. and im being honest when i say this i actually feel kinda dum in the head. when it comes to school or any of that when i was there back in college i couldnt think of easy shit. and i know it was cause of the drug use. i did it for months on end. then id take the back seat and smoke my weed then id jump back in and giver 110 for a few more months. me and all my friends were E-Tards for awhile. honestly tho had a hell of a time when i was on it. do i remember any of those times. no not really. only some come to mind. see wat i mean the shit fucks wit ur head big time. oh and did i mention im only 21. i havnt touched it in a year. i did it last new years to end the year lol. will i do it again. yeah fuck yeah. but like i use to. fuck no. just be smart wit the stuff, or i could end ur life. iv never witnessed anything bad on it. well some wat. i remember at a party wit all my friends my 1 bud took to many pills and fucked him self right up. u would touch him and ud seriously think u burnt ur hand. we ended up puttin him in the bath tub full of ice cubes. iv seen some bad trips im my time. and seeing a chick get hit hard, isnt plesent at all.anyways im jus gonna ramble here so ill stop here .

sorry if i got off topic or watever.

fackfackfack
01-18-2007, 05:51 AM
what about the one with the guy smoking a joint in the park with his girlfriend and his she tells him to stop and then the girlfriend leaves with an alien. WTF?

his noodley appendage!

MacWQ33
01-18-2007, 05:54 AM
that was a great family guy episode.

and as for it goes for X . that shit fucks u up. take it from me i did that fuckin shit for to long. and im being honest when i say this i actually feel kinda dum in the head. when it comes to school or any of that when i was there back in college i couldnt think of easy shit. and i know it was cause of the drug use. i did it for months on end. then id take the back seat and smoke my weed then id jump back in and giver 110 for a few more months. me and all my friends were E-Tards for awhile. honestly tho had a hell of a time when i was on it. do i remember any of those times. no not really. only some come to mind. see wat i mean the shit fucks wit ur head big time. oh and did i mention im only 21. i havnt touched it in a year. i did it last new years to end the year lol. will i do it again. yeah fuck yeah. but like i use to. fuck no. just be smart wit the stuff, or i could end ur life. iv never witnessed anything bad on it. well some wat. i remember at a party wit all my friends my 1 bud took to many pills and fucked him self right up. u would touch him and ud seriously think u burnt ur hand. we ended up puttin him in the bath tub full of ice cubes. iv seen some bad trips im my time. and seeing a chick get hit hard, isnt plesent at all.anyways im jus gonna ramble here so ill stop here .

sorry if i got off topic or watever.


But can you still say that one use/reponsible use/few times a year use is pretty safe. If it's available, of course shit can get out of hand...just like any substance, not just MDMA.

slipknotpsycho
01-18-2007, 05:58 AM
i don't care what yal do in your own threads or others... please don't bicker and fight in mine... thank you.

partyguy420
01-18-2007, 06:03 AM
i wish some one would maybe post a link to all of theses stupid commersials, since we dont have any fourm of TV...

station
01-18-2007, 06:06 AM
But can you still say that one use/reponsible use/few times a year use is pretty safe. If it's available, of course shit can get out of hand...just like any substance, not just MDMA.

well when i say X and MDMA is a different drug. well not really. MDMA is the more pure. i think? fuck see i dont remember anything lol

but ya to wat u were askin i guess its safe only a few times a year. but i wouldnt use the word "safe" cause iv heard stories where someone that has never touched drugs in his/her life took 1 pill and went fuckin insane. and i mean insane. like fuckin padded room n all. but really how many times does that happen. i had this chick fallin in love wit me and i lost her cause she thought i was fuckin mental for doing E. it is a crazy drug and u gotta be smart when ur on it. no matter how high u r. keep a straight mind and keep a bottle of water in ur hand. its wat i did and im fine. well not fine hahha. id hate to know wat its gonna do to me when im older. im gonna have no spine left and be all crippled in a dam wheel chair. hah

slipknotpsycho
01-18-2007, 06:25 AM
i wish some one would maybe post a link to all of theses stupid commersials, since we dont have any fourm of TV...

i tried, couldn't find it.. just go to abovetheinfluence.com and click on 'our ads' and you'll see all the ads they currently have up... and see how ridiculous they are. have to have flashplayer tho.

partyguy420
01-18-2007, 06:32 AM
yea... dosent xtc fuck with the fluids in your spin?

eminems song "now your backs arched over looking like the mcdonald archs while your friends all just laff at you" its not the exact wording...

and yes... everything i know i learn threw music(and self experiments, and of course you guys...)

station
01-18-2007, 06:43 AM
yea... dosent xtc fuck with the fluids in your spin?

eminems song "now your backs arched over looking like the mcdonald archs while your friends all just laff at you" its not the exact wording...

and yes... everything i know i learn threw music(and self experiments, and of course you guys...)

your dam right it does. it drains it. fucked eh!
i got a wheel chair on lay-a-way :(

slipknotpsycho
01-18-2007, 06:46 AM
sad day for me unfortunately... you know how much bullshit propogand the govt. puts out on marijuana, well they put allmost an equal ammount on all other drugs.. i'm not saying any other drug is anywhere near as safe as weed, but they're alot safer then the govt. advertises they are... just simmer on that thought for awhile...

suhl
01-18-2007, 06:49 AM
hahaha that one doesnt even make sense. are they saying it makes you live longer or what? hahaha that one doesnt make sense. maybe i just missed the point but i dont think there was one. anyone see the one where all the kids are putting leaches on their skin then they say and the end what would you do to fit in and it shows a joint i think they are kidding funny. i dont know why you people get so bent out of shape over that shit just watch it and laugh do you really think anyone buys into that shit. they dont deter anyone. espcially now that they dont make sense. people who dont want to smoke arent going to.

MacWQ33
01-18-2007, 06:59 AM
Oh man...come on guys...the 'draining spinal fluid' thing is one of the biggest myths in the world of drugs. And yeah...when I say MDMA, I mean the pure substance. Ecstasy or X or XTC are terms meant to describe a pill that is 'suppose to contain' MDMA...but nowadays it's usually mixed or just a different drug altogether. I really don't think you have been taking MDMA man...it doesn't make you go crazy...it used to be used in therapy and counseling to help the patient get their true emotions out. It was actually only made illegal in 85..before then it was sold in clubs just like alcohol. My friend took pure MDMA a few times a week this summer (still stupid) and he was/is fine. That's still a lot for any substance, but still...if used responsibly, it's pretty safe. Watch that documentary I posted...it tells a lot about the drug in a non-biased way. Slip is right in what he says, obviously it's not safer than chocolate, but there is a lot of misinformation out there...Why would you take this substance if you thought it caused anything negative...seriously..I researched to find out all those myths were bullshit before I made any decision to try it...well...anyway..now you know your brain and spine aren't damaged...

Here you go for proof...go down to rumours to read about the spinal fluid thing and brain damage bullshit...

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq.shtml#rumor

suhl
01-18-2007, 07:02 AM
yeah you are right. people say the same shit about acid and it is just as false

MacWQ33
01-18-2007, 07:06 AM
yeah you are right. people say the same shit about acid and it is just as false

Yeah...it's with anything though. I guess you can't blame the government for 'trying' to lie to the public...but still it's just unethical and immoral to hand out lies to discourage people from making thier own decision.

station
01-20-2007, 06:40 PM
good link Mac. and i didnt really mean to say it makes ya go crazy it was just wat i heard from my ex gf. she was into the shit way b4 me and i was jus takin her word on it. she was lookin out for me i guess. but never stoped me from doing it. and as for it goes on that MDMA shit, its really not that great lol. IMO

Iplaybass182
01-21-2007, 02:50 AM
The eminem song I think is sarcastic and making fun of the lies we hear in health class because it starts off in a class type setting. Plus the line "Magic mushrooms , oops I mean fungus..." sent a sarcastic note.

LIP
01-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Is that the song kids? I thought that song was a piss take... is it isnt it?

slipknotpsycho
01-28-2007, 01:20 AM
here is what i was talking about (thanks sam)

YouTube - Stop Looking At Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQVfsY0-ZR0)

Samwhore
01-28-2007, 01:21 AM
here is what i was talking about (thanks sam)

YouTube - Stop Looking At Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQVfsY0-ZR0)

that commerical is so funny it deserves its own thread

make it legal
01-28-2007, 01:23 AM
that was the most retarded thing iv ever seen. really. wow.

LIP
01-28-2007, 12:08 PM
That ad has made me feel phyically sick to the bottom of my stomach. It's not only a waste of money, it's also a waste of brain power watching a stupid dog put a flag up after trying to tell someone to stop smoking weed.

MacWQ33
01-28-2007, 07:28 PM
The eminem song I think is sarcastic and making fun of the lies we hear in health class because it starts off in a class type setting. Plus the line "Magic mushrooms , oops I mean fungus..." sent a sarcastic note.

Yeah it was very sarcastic (obviously). So are all the songs he's made about substances (obviously). Obviously x doesn't do anything to your back (the way he puts it is hilarious). And the first verse is showing how marijuana can make you crazzzzy.

And yeah...it's called "The Kids". I think it's pretty damn funny (it's also structured very well rhyme-wise..I dunno how he does it sometimes). "Don't do drugs...and do exactly as I don't." LOL.

LIP I'd answer your question...but I don't know what you mean by 'piss take'.

zawert
01-28-2007, 09:41 PM
Anybody see the one thats pretty common in Canada where the guy on the zig-zag package is telling the kid hes too high to drive. found that fun. if anything that makes it more appealing. not like your actually gonna hallucinate like that i bet more people would try it hoping for that effect. they have the same thing where theres an alien on a guys t shirt talking in a gibberish language with subtitles saying hes too high to drive. how the hell are you gonna fuck up driving cuz your high? driving too slow maybe lol?

LIP
01-29-2007, 04:23 PM
Yeah it was very sarcastic (obviously). So are all the songs he's made about substances (obviously). Obviously x doesn't do anything to your back (the way he puts it is hilarious). And the first verse is showing how marijuana can make you crazzzzy.

And yeah...it's called "The Kids". I think it's pretty damn funny (it's also structured very well rhyme-wise..I dunno how he does it sometimes). "Don't do drugs...and do exactly as I don't." LOL.

LIP I'd answer your question...but I don't know what you mean by 'piss take'.

Piss take.... taking the piss... sarcastic lol!

Sorry for my Britishness.

dark0ne
01-29-2007, 04:36 PM
we should start our own version of the truth comercials. Instead we'll give them facts about Ganja that are true. like show all the bodies that represent the deaths per year from smoking, and the deaths per year from drinking. then just show some people having fun and say "the number of deaths a year from smoking marijuana..... nothing, and why is it still illegal?"

LIP
01-29-2007, 04:38 PM
we should start our own version of the truth comercials. Instead we'll give them facts about Ganja that are true. like show all the bodies that represent the deaths per year from smoking, and the deaths per year from drinking. then just show some people having fun and say "the number of deaths a year from smoking marijuana..... nothing, and why is it still illegal?"

I'd personally invest in this kind of campangine, only problem is actually getting the TV stations to show them.

Inferius
01-29-2007, 06:51 PM
Something I'm about 90% sure I read on erowid.
1 in 100 thousand users has an allergic reaction to xtc(mdma), and this can easily prove fatal.

dark0ne
01-29-2007, 06:59 PM
I'd personally invest in this kind of campangine, only problem is actually getting the TV stations to show them.

AHHH this is when we attack from the internet. using google's ad program, or anyother form of free internet web service. hell i made a web page in under a day, that got alot of hits. The only advertizing i did was on this forum just saying "hey check out my web site".