Iranian Impeachment?

[Zimzum]

Maybe soon we hold one for Bush/Chaney.:thumbsup:

IRAN: MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT TRY TO IMPEACH AHMADINEJAD (http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Politics&loid=8.0.374527125&par=0#)


Tehran, 9 Jan. (AKI) - Iranian reformist lawmakers have started collecting signatures in Parliament to demand the impeachment of the country's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. So far, 38 signatures have been collected out of the 72 required to formally summon Ahmadinejad and request his impeachment. Noureddin Pirmouzen, a deputy with the reformist minority, says it is nonetheless "positive to question" the head of the executive branch.
"Many actions of the current government and of president Ahmadinejad have led the country to an extremely worrying political and economic situation," Pirmouzen told the Iranian news website Aftab.

Referring to a resolution of the UN Security Council unanimously approved on 23 December which imposes sanctions on Tehran over its nuclear programme, the MP said "it is the last straw which has made Iranians loose their patience." The international community fears Iran is trying to build nuclear weapons and has repeatedly asked the government to halt sensitive nuclear work - a demand ignored by Tehran which claims its programme is solely for civilian use.

"Parliament cannot sit still in front of the current situation and watch as the economy worsens because of the government's inability," he added.

Issa Saharkhiz, editor and political analyst, told Adnkronos International (AKI) that "Ahmadinejad's golden era is over."

"I don't think Ahmadinejad will leave the presidency before his mandate expires but I am also convinced he will not succeed in winning a second term," added Saharkhiz. "Many factions and personalities who supported Ahmadinejad's candidature at the 2005 presidential elections have already abandoned him and don't spare criticism, even harsh and direct, of the president and his government."

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad became president after an overwhelming victory in June 2005 but his then contender, Ali-Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, and moderate conservative rivals of the president did far better than Ahmadinejad's allies in December polls to elect local councils and the powerful watchdog, the Assembly of Experts.

[medicinal]

Yeah, you're right , If we could only get one started for Bush-Cheney. Can you say Nancy Pelosi for president. I don't have a clue how she'd be, but I know that she could be no worse than them. Hell, maybe she'd even stop the war!~ But you'd have to do them both, and they surely deserve it!!!

[Psycho4Bud]

I don't have a clue how she'd be, but I know that she could be no worse than them.

Politicians.........they all have their own agenda and are as equally crooked.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Zimzum]

Politicians.........they all have their own agenda and are as equally crooked.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Maybe so. But lets take care of America first before we run off and police the world.

[Torog]

Maybe so. But lets take care of America first before we run off and police the world.

Howdy ZimZum,

This is one of them,"which came first-the chicken or the egg ?" situations,if we fail to police the world,will there be an America to fix ?

You think America has problems now..just try to fix a smoking waste-land.

No matter how much ya wish it could be,ya can't roll the clock back to before 9/11/01..yer gonna have to deal with the truth about Islam,muslim-jihadists and the muslim hordes that seek to destroy the Free World.

You have the choice to opt-out,just git ya a copy of the koran and start studying for yer conversion,set up a savings account to pay yer jizra tax and you'll be good to go ! Plus,as a muslim-convert,you will have gained the right to commit any atrocity that you so desire,then blame yer actions on Bush and America..pretty spiffy,huh ? :D

Have a good one ! :jointsmile:

[delusionsofNORMALity]

This is one of them,"which came first-the chicken or the egg ?" situations....

this sounds a bit too much like apocalyptic saber rattling to me.

granted, we have been attacked and need to respond, but the WHOLE world? with the poverty and ignorance running rampant in this country, maybe some of those billions of war dollars might be better spent at home. after all, a contented population will be more vigilant and more apt to police themselves than a country as divided as ours has become. the u.s., running around sticking our nose into other people"s affairs and blowing things up, is only postponing future terrorist actions inside this country.

[Torog]

this sounds a bit too much like apocalyptic saber rattling to me.

granted, we have been attacked and need to respond, but the WHOLE world? with the poverty and ignorance running rampant in this country, maybe some of those billions of war dollars might be better spent at home. after all, a contented population will be more vigilant and more apt to police themselves than a country as divided as ours has become. the u.s., running around sticking our nose into other people"s affairs and blowing things up, is only postponing future terrorist actions inside this country.

Howdy delusion,

America has thrown billions of dollars at ignorance and poverty,not only here,but around the world..but it still happens,anyhow. When ya say "a contented population",that makes me think of a population that's asleep at the wheel. Our country has become divided,because yer side is content to enjoy the freedom that you have already,while at the same time,y'all are making excuses for those who choose to commit violence against others..yer side even believes that America deserves it and that the innocents who perished on 9/11/01,were most deserving,because they are 'little eichmanns'.

According to yer logic,we shouldn't have stuck our noses in,when saddam invaded Kuwait,that we should have just looked away,while saddam's troops were looting,raping and pillaging.

Have a good one ...

[Bong30]

Torog you are right on point.....

Maybe someday ill be as level headed as you.......

Naaaaaaaa

LOL

have a Good one Torog

[Zimzum]

According to yer logic,we shouldn't have stuck our noses in,when saddam invaded Kuwait,that we should have just looked away,while saddam's troops were looting,raping and pillaging.



In no way did it concern our national safety other than the flow of oil. After the first gulf war cancer and birth defect rates jumped up by 1000% in the area. We sent our troops back home with gulf war syndrome. And today we still use depleted uranium.

Unless it is an absolute threat to our nations safety with real evidence. No soldier or citizen should have to die. Alli or enemy.

"looting, raping, pillaging" have all been done by US forces as well.. Civil war, Vietnam, Korea

[Bong30]

Your hate for america is shining.....Zim


The civil war? you want to get into it......?


So what zim is saying freeing the slaves was not worth dieing for....HUH?


I beg to differ......


Vietnam..... we went in with a noble mission...it went bad cause of the left wing nut job weaking our resolve to win...alla Jane Fonda.

Zim you forgot to mention the killing fields? why?

Korea.......

Look at the south... 6th biggest economy in the world

North a fuck stain on the sheets of the world.....( goverment, not the people)

Bring it ZIM

[daima]

Politicians.........they all have their own agenda and are as equally crooked.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

we keep having agreements and people just might get suspicious.:smokin:

dai*ma:stoned:

[Zimzum]

Your hate for america is shining.....Zim


The civil war? you want to get into it......?


So what zim is saying freeing the slaves was not worth dieing for....HUH?


I beg to differ......



You are a fool. Civil war had nothing to do with slaves at the start. That only came later on in the war. Both armies north and south would loot towns they took over to "fund" the war and there pockets. Women were raped and towns were burned to the ground.



Vietnam..... we went in with a noble mission...it went bad cause of the left wing nut job weaking our resolve to win...alla Jane Fonda.

Zim you forgot to mention the killing fields? why?

I didn't say anything about how it started or ended. Don't change course on me.

Verified Civilian Slayings (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-vietcases6aug06,0,5481260.story)
By Nick Turse, Deborah Nelson and Janet Lundblad

August 6, 2006

Decades-old Pentagon records show that Army criminal investigators substantiated seven massacres of Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians by U.S. soldiers â?? in addition to the notorious 1968 My Lai massacre.

Here are summaries of three of those incidents, drawn from files of the Vietnam War Crimes Working Group.

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Sept. 29, 1969

E Company, 4th Battalion, 31st Infantry, 196th Light Infantry Brigade, 23rd Infantry Division

Members of a reconnaissance platoon swept through the Que Son Valley, burning homes, slaughtering animals and clearing civilians. They killed an unarmed boy standing outside a cluster of huts and fired into one of the dwellings, killing three women and three or four children, according to an investigative report. The soldiers then executed an elderly woman and a baby.

The unit reported the victims as enemy killed in action.

In the next few days, members of the platoon raped a woman and a young girl and executed civilian detainees, investigators determined.

Pvt. Davey V. Hoag said he reported the killings to an officer but was ignored. Two and a half years later, he gave information to Army investigators at Ft. Lewis, Wash.

"The other guys wouldn't listen when I tried to stop them from shooting everything," Hoag said in a sworn statement. Other soldiers corroborated his account.

The investigation found sufficient evidence to charge seven soldiers with murder, rape or dereliction of duty. By then, at least four had left the service, and the Army declined to pursue charges against them.

A private still on active duty was charged with two counts of murder. He denied killing civilians. His commanding general, Maj. Gen. Robert C. Hixon, withdrew the charges, citing insufficient evidence, and gave the private an undesirable discharge.

Investigators said the evidence also supported a dereliction of duty charge against the platoon leader for failing to report the civilian deaths. The platoon leader said he had not heard about the deaths or any other war crimes by his soldiers. His commander decided against disciplinary action, citing insufficient evidence.

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March 16, 1968

B Company, 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry, 23rd Infantry Division

On the same day as the massacre at My Lai, soldiers from the same division killed an undetermined number of women and children in neighboring My Khe.

Witnesses told investigators that soldiers tossed grenades into shelters and shot women and children as they ran for cover or tried to flee. Over the next three days, members of the unit burned three sub-hamlets to the ground and tortured detainees with electric shocks, records say.

Officially, the unit said it killed 39 enemy combatants but recovered no weapons and suffered no casualties. Official South Vietnamese sources put the death toll at 80 to 90 noncombatants. Evidence of the killings surfaced during the My Lai inquiry, and the Army launched an investigation.

Platoon leader Lt. Thomas K. Willingham told an investigator that his troops had come under enemy fire and that he knew of no "unnecessary killings." He was charged with murder, but the charges were dropped on the advice of Army legal officers, who cited uncooperative witnesses and contradictory testimony. Other suspects had left the service and charges were not pursued.

A separate inquiry found a soldier had executed a boy during the assault on My Khe. The soldier, who had left the service, was not charged.

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May 18, 1971

Troop A, 1st Squadron, 9th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division

A U.S. helicopter "hunter-killer" team attacked a village in Cambodia with rockets and machine-gun fire, killing eight civilians, including two children, and wounding 15.

The team reported that they saw what appeared to be flashes of automatic weapons fire and "a number of motorcycles and bicycles" that looked like an enemy convoy. An Army investigation, however, found no reasonable basis for the attack.

After the assault, a U.S. captain landed with a platoon of South Vietnamese troops but "did not search bunkers for enemy forces," according to an investigative summary. "Nor were enemy weapons or other war materiel found."

The troops provided no medical treatment to the wounded and made off with "large quantities of civilian property, including tobacco, poultry, and radios, and the US cpt returned to the aircraft with a motorcycle."

The captain gave the motorcycle to his squadron commander, and "the incident was neither properly investigated or reported initially."

A captain, a major and a lieutenant colonel received letters of reprimand. No one was prosecuted, according to Army records.

â?? Nick Turse, Deborah Nelson and Janet Lundblad



Korea.......

Look at the south... 6th biggest economy in the world

North a fuck stain on the sheets of the world.....( goverment, not the people)

Bring it ZIM

Same thing in Korea happened. Stop diverting.

[Bong30]

Yes Zim war sucks...........


your hate for america sucks even worse....



if you read they didnt have enough evidence to convict the perps.....why do you?



War sucks and peopple die get used to it...........

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Howdy delusion,

America has thrown billions of dollars at ignorance and poverty,not only here,but around the world..but it still happens,anyhow. When ya say "a contented population",that makes me think of a population that's asleep at the wheel. Our country has become divided,because yer side is content to enjoy the freedom that you have already,while at the same time,y'all are making excuses for those who choose to commit violence against others..yer side even believes that America deserves it and that the innocents who perished on 9/11/01,were most deserving,because they are 'little eichmanns'.

According to yer logic,we shouldn't have stuck our noses in,when saddam invaded Kuwait,that we should have just looked away,while saddam's troops were looting,raping and pillaging.

Have a good one ...
please don't lump me in with the peace at any cost, touchy feely, money for nothing crowd. i may be an aging hippie, but i'm no foole.
i know you can't rid the country of poverty by throwing money around, it takes a change in attitude (which can be engineered). shouldn't we try to rid ourselves of corruption before we go out and save the world? we protect the rich, ignore the poor, and squeeze the middle for all it's worth. we could give the poor a chance for advancement and we could educate the ignorant, but then the power hungry would have to share (we can't have that, now can we). the division that should concern us is between the haves and have-nots, now between the hawks and the doves.
that "yer side" you keep harping on troubles we a bit as well. granted, there are many believe we have brought this mess on ourselves and they are not entirely wrong. as we run around the world enforcing our way of life on everyone we meet, we can't help but make a few enemies (no, i am not making excuses for any motherfucker who would dare to attack us). we have propped up violent regimes all around the world, who are we to decide which ones to destroy and which to tolerate. aiding our friends around the world is all well and good, but declaring war on someone just because we deem them unfriendly has never been in our best interest.
in short, we just can't afford to police the whole damn world. our morality is not shared by everyone and forcing them to bend to our will by force never has worked and probably never will.



yeah, it's all pie in the sky shit, but it never hurts to dream.

[Zimzum]

They are now up to 50 out of 72 signatures needed to start his impeachment. :thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

I can't see it happening but hope it does........the guys a fruit loop!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[medicinal]

..yer side even believes that America deserves it and that the innocents who perished on 9/11/01,were most deserving,because they are 'little eichmanns'. No not America, Our leaders and corporations and the plutocrats that actually run the government. The Americans (Most of us) are a patriotic bunch that see our country being taken over by warmongering Neocons financed and directed by multinational corporations. And we know that is not good for anyone but the rich. So if you are rich, more of the same would be in order, if not, maybe it's time for a change

[Zimzum]

Eight More MP Signatures Needed to Summon Ahmadinejad to Parliament

An Iranian MP who supports summoning Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for a discussion on his administration's economic and foreign policy has told the conservative Iranian news agency Aftab that eight more MP signatures are needed.

He said that despite pressure by Ahmadinejad's supporters, he and his colleagues have succeeded in obtaining signatures from 64 MPs.

Source: Aftab, Iran, March 14, 2007


Taken from MEMRI (http://www.thememriblog.org/)

[medicinal]

They are now up to 50 out of 72 signatures needed to start his impeachment.
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Geeze, I thought you were talking about Bush, and I was wondering where I could sign up.