PLZZ READ noob grower with awesome pics inside a treasure chest!

[noob8]

ok so i got this treasure chest that i hollowed out (pics below) and started a grow "station" and i really need some advice about how im doing cause im a complete noob. first what i did is put a light fixture i made on the top of the chest- it has 2 100 watt bulbs that are really like 20 watts or some thing and one long tube light thing. i germinated and planted the seed and so far i think its doing pretty good but if i could get some advice on how im doing that would be great----o yea and im going to be leaving for 7 days and was wondering if any one knew a way that i could keep it watered or moisturised while im away. ill keep a log too--- thanks

[razzapiggy]

You are going to have some serious height restraints growing in the treasure chest. You might want to consider upgrading to a taller unit. With reguards to keeping it nice and watered while you are gone, just give it a solid watering before leaving, that's about all you can do.

[razzapiggy]

Also, that look like tin foil on the inside of your chest, you should not use that for reflection. Try mylar

[noob8]

thanks much for the advice but with the height issue i was planning on growing till its tall enough and transplanting it to either this hollowed out tall speaker or outside in my woods

[noob8]

update:about week 2- got back from vacation and was suprised to see how good it was doin heres some pics !!and i need some advice on when to transplant it to a bigger pot thanks

[smokin dope]

id transplant to another size bigger, maybe a 1-2 galon pot. i went from cups your size to 2 galon and im going to move to 4.5 gallons tomorrow

[noob8]

aright thanks for the advice ill do that tomarrow morning--- also i didnt tell everyone im 14 so i need all the advice i can get---thanks

[harris7]

dude, you should turn the chest on it's side. so it's tall and skinny.
you could grow one big kick ass plant in it. put floro tubes down all 4 corners and have some lights above. sounds fun to me.

or keep it how it is. have your plant at one end, then train it in a zig zag down the entire boxt and let only the side shoots grow upwards.

or... do whatever the hell you want

just have fun

[harris7]

hmm. you also dont have any vent's that's going to be a problem. trust me, the heat from the lamps is the biggest problem for most growers, cuz no one thinks of it on their first grow

[noob8]

day 15 another pair of leaves are starting to appear tomarow im going to transplant and add a fan any advice?

[noob8]

anyone?

[noob8]

i took ur advice and put the chest on its side (pics below) and it makes much more sense i also transplanted to a bigger pot and cut my finger like a bitch but w/e its all good if anyone has any advice im all open i need it

[noob8]

shiiit my mom just cought me smoking

[noob8]

ok heres a pic of my baby i took today it looks as though its leaning to one side i have no clue what that means but heres some pics i did water it two days ago with a tiny bit of fertilizer i dont know if that has anything to do with it if anyone knows what this means plzz tell me cause i dont know what im doing wrong---you can see its leaning tword the camera

[Volker]

It's leaning towards the brightest light?

[Kindbud]

You are going to have some serious height restraints growing in the treasure chest. You might want to consider upgrading to a taller unit. With reguards to keeping it nice and watered while you are gone, just give it a solid watering before leaving, that's about all you can do.

I would have been sketch about keeping cfls on in a closed space while gone.. Good to see your micro system works man, hope to see some more pics !

[Cyclonite]

Its leaning toward the light...I would push it 1-2" from the closest light providing its not too hot but it looks like you have fluorescents. I don't know what kind of soil that is but you shouldn't be adding nutes until it gets into vegetative growth or if it tells you that it needs some. You need to cut 2 small holes in there to push in new air and out with the old. I kinda had a feeling there would be a picture with a fan inside the box with no holes soon...so before you do that yea. For soil go buy some good stuff from foxfarm or get blackgold. Make sure you are using 5K or so color CFLs...I can't tell from the pics and you want your temps around 78 or so.

[Shovelhandle]

I like the chest! good luck w your grow

shov

[noob8]

ok thanks cyclonite for the advice i really needed it but for the two holes do mean that each hole needs a fan to push the air in and out or i just need one fan on the inside and two holes for fresh air--- kind bud ill defently get some more pics---shovelhandel thanks for the support ill keep u updated+++ i did put a fan in already and there is one hole in the chest so keep the posts coming thanks!!

[HiProGlow]

It's just my opinnion but I wouldn't give it nutes quite yet. I find that waiting until 5-7 sets of leaves works best. (Or 3 1/2 weeks) Also, give her a little time to adjust to the transplant....she's been stressed, regardless of how smooth the transplant went. Nothing like blood, sweat and tears to help you appreciate a grow! Happy Growing and Peace!

[420Paul]

I am very interested in what you can do with that small box, do some research on "The Sea of Green", fuck taking it outside, I am sure you could keep it inside, and get fine and dandy yeild. May I suggest two 120MM fans one as an inlit and one as an outlit for your box.


Sea of green

The plantlet sea of green method was developed to maximize the speed of cannabis growing in limited height situations. In a typical sea of green setup of this type, clones are planted at densities as high as 9 per sq. ft. Within a short time after being established, the lights are switched to a 12 hour dark period. What happens to the planted clone?

The clone could just sit there, stretch a bit under the light regime, and flower, producing a tiny little bud with a couple of seeds. But that rarely, if ever, happens. Instead the clone takes off in a rush of growth, forming a woody main stem and branches. If the plant is suitable for sea of green growing, it will stop short of the lights and flower. Most indica dominated plants stop short enough to be grown using this method. That process is at the heart of the sea of green method, as it results in the smallest possible plant flowering in the quickest possible time.

Why does the clone act in this manner? The actual process is subject to debate. Your author suspects that the clone reads the light switch as fall, and has a mechanism that recognizes that it's too small to produce seed. So the clone goes into a furious growth mode that stops when the plant reaches a minimum height set within its genetic software, and then flowers. Others argue that the clone's response is just a variation on the normal stretching process that happens when flowering is forced in any size plant. For purposes of the discussion here, it doesn't really matter why the response occurs, just that you can rely on it.

The problem with the sea of green method under small HPS lamps is that it produces a number of small spikes under the lamp, a forest rather than a field. The plants crowd each other out and shade the lower portions, which in any event are too far from the light source. As we discussed above, tall and skinny is not productive under a small light. I grew initially using this method, based on books and magazines that I read before designing my 250 watt system, and it worked well for many years, yielding just over 1 oz. per ft. Not bad, but it can be so much better.

Note that in the mid-90's, the term "sea of green" started being applied to much larger plants and grows, even multiple 1000 watt installations over room-sized grow tables, with 3 foot plants spaced at one per foot. It seems the original meaning of the term, the SSSC plantlet method, has been almost forgotten.

[420Paul]

Also fuck the tinfoil, get yourself some flat white enamel paint, and paint the inside.

[noob8]

ok thanks so much for the tips --420paul i have a pic of a fan i think that you are talking about and if it is ill get the fans in right away and try to find some enamel paint. also theres a pic of her from today-- and also hiprogrow ill lay off the nutes for now and post a pic up when i think i shud nute it and hopefully you (or ne one) could tell me if its the right time thanks everyone!! and one more thing with the leaning issue i keep turning the pot so every day a different side is facing the brightest light i dont know if that is bad for the plant but if it is then plz tell me thanks

[420Paul]

Yes, those are the fans, I suggested, reason I suggest them is for the reason in your picture (the computer), Just make sure you put two of them in, one needs to act as an INLIT and the other as an outlet, since heat rises, I would put the outlit, at the top of the box, and the inlit at the bottom of the box.

[420Paul]

Your going to need another small space, maybe try the speaker box? To keep some clones alive in... Look around...

[noob8]

i got a speaker thats hollowed out but i dont know if i could use it, its really dry in there but ill see what i can do heres some pics 1-her from today 2-the speaker box-- and i no i prolly sound like a fukin retard but i have no clue how to make clones hopefully someone can help me out

[420Paul]

Don't worry we will get you to that stage.... For right now, just keep doing what your doing, and try to get yourself another small space.

[razzapiggy]

Not to be rude at all, but I would not suggest growing in your parents house without their permission. It puts them in an unfair situation, compromises their security, not to mention makes it difficult for you to facilitate your grow the way it needs to be in order to get the results you are looking for.

Just my .02 tho

[Abattoir Dream]

nah... its easy lol

keep the lights really close man, especially in such a small space, the further the lights the longer the stem, and i dont mean that in a good way, you will have the same amount of leaves if not less... its called stretching,

p.s. sorry if im wrong, its just that in the pics the light is way too far away, take one of the plant under the light, keep it about 2-3 inches away..

[noob8]

aright everyone thanks for everything so tomarrow my parents are leaving im going to paint the inside, put the two fans in, and move the lighting around. but with the paint i was wondering if its bad to use a latex base paint? and razzapiggy dont worry i appreciate your concern but my dads got a broken leg and cant walk up stairs and i highly doubt my mom would do any thing if she finds it so thanks. below are some pics of some paint i found around my house- they all say bone white if someone could tell me if the paint is bad to use that would be great- also heres a pic of today.

[420Paul]

You want a non reflective paint, IE a DULL white.

[noob8]

got the fans in inlit and outlet (bottom and top) painted the chest (badly) but it shud do heres some pics of everything !!notice in the first pic how one of the leaves is curling! i dont know what that means, mayb im doin something wrong help plzz

[noob8]

ok i added another light directly over the plant to try and reduce the leaning its about 2 1/2 inches from the top and ill keep moving the light so its not touching the plant heres a pic

[faithlessxxx]

I hope you let the room dry before putting those gals back in all those vinyl fumes?

[noob8]

yea defenitly i put it under a light in my closet overnite just to be certain-thanks

[noob8]

when do you think i shud nute her?

[faithlessxxx]

After about 3 weeks, or when she starts to take off.
You're going to need to double the lights soon.

[420Paul]

Lookin good, nice job on the fan, whats your temp inside the box? Also, like already suggested, your going to need to double the light... I would double the light, wait a week and then start apply some nutes. Once the momma' gets big enough your going to want to cut some clones. I will post more on that in a few. Reason is, you don't have the room to waste to grow a male plant, so your going to want to clone the plant, a few times (I'd take at least two now), once you get both clones good and stable, (this is why your going to need one more box) and flower one, so you immediately know if you are growing male or female. If male, sucks your going to want to start all over... If female then, you have your two clones growing, and then we can get into LST.

[Blayzd]

hmm. you also dont have any vent's that's going to be a problem. trust me, the heat from the lamps is the biggest problem for most growers, cuz no one thinks of it on their first grow

tiz so true look what happened to my plant!

Currently doing a grow log

[noob8]

ok i added another light directly over the plant to try and reduce the leaning its about 2 1/2 inches from the top and ill keep moving the light so its not touching the plant heres a pic

idk if you know that i have the two 100 watt florosand the tube light? if so then ill get right on putting more light in thanks

[noob8]

heres just an update pic tomarrow ill get the new lights and a thermometer in there asap (when i get home from school) you'll see the two small plants on either side-im selling thoes to my freinds (cause their stupid). i know this is alittle off topic but i heard that if you put a tube around your plant before it gets too big, that it will get more, larger buds just wondering if anyone else heard about this myth.

[420Paul]

What kind of soil did you use? It looks like she might need some mild nutes... Yes, I saw the tube light, your still going to need more. Hey, don't get your self banned read the rules of the forum. We don't sell anything on here, this site is for information purposes only. Please keep your mouth in check.

[420Paul]

tiz so true look what happened to my plant!

Currently doing a grow log

He added vents already.

[Kb420Kb]

wow man your 14 and you can do all that? haha im 16 and I cant do shit... I have a plant under my computer desk with a light hanging over it and its a house hold light -.- Im working on getting some flurocent lights and a 400Watt HID light.. I'm only going to grow 1 plant though...

[Kb420Kb]

Ugggh... i was going to show you my grow room and how stupid it looks but it wont let me upload my pics.

[420Paul]

How's it coming noob?

[noob8]

shit shit shit sry everyone if you were wondering where i was but, sadly, my mom found the box. lol i guess it sucks but the funny thing is that she didnt kill it, she gave it to her freind to grow- she doesnt want nething "unlawful" in our house. i guess all good thing come to an end- ill eventually set up an outdoor grow or find another place in my house but for now im out of buissness- heres one last pic of my baby- again thanks everyone for the advice and support

[invision]

never grow in your moms house unless she smokes herb too and is okay with it.