Too late to Top??

[doco]

Ok, I've thinned down the garden to the girls I'm keeping and gave 5 others to a friend. Because some of the tall ones turned out to be girls too, I'm thinking of topping a couple. I want to start flowering in a week or two...is it too late to top? They are on their 7th or 8th nodes and I just transplanted tonight into their final 3 gallon pots. I'm concerned that by topping they may be in shock for awhile and starting to flower so soon after topping might have an adverse effect?

[Perp]

No, you won't hurt them. I would go ahead and top them and then trigger flowering in two weeks time.

[nick_420chronic]

whats topping?i dont understand.

[kindprincess]

that's when you cut the top off causing two branches to grow in it's place...

fim (fuck! i missed!) technique is clipping 3/4 of the leaf bud so that up to eight new branches occur...

;)

[Weedhound]

Is a week long enough for the new tops to grow in for flowering? Two sounds better to me.....

[midlifecrisis]

If your topping due to height issues, I would go with 1 week....the longer you veg the taller your girl will be in the end.....If your plant is healthy it will do fine.....I was forced into my first topping as my girl grew into the cfl and cooked the cola....I was 1 week into flowering when this happened, she survived better than my ego did.:smokin:

[doco]

Thanks everyone!...this site rules. I have 6.5 feet to play with so height isn't too much of an issue....I mainly want to maintain an even canopy. Two of the plants are shorter and bushy by nature, 3 are bushy because they were clones that had clippings taken from them, and two are just big tall healthy growing girls. I'll top those two and flower in two weeks. Thanks again!

[Garden Knowm]

Use the tops as CLONES!!!

iloveyou

[xcrispi]

having 6.5 ft. to work w/ is irrelivent doco .
even if your using a 1000w. hps. the most penetration you'll get is approx. 4 ft. the lower parts of the plant will be under devoloped n light starved . i let mine veg. for 1 additional week after topping to help eliminate some of the strech .
peace
crispi

[Splifted]

Ok, I've thinned down the garden to the girls I'm keeping and gave 5 others to a friend. Because some of the tall ones turned out to be girls too, I'm thinking of topping a couple. I want to start flowering in a week or two...is it too late to top? They are on their 7th or 8th nodes and I just transplanted tonight into their final 3 gallon pots. I'm concerned that by topping they may be in shock for awhile and starting to flower so soon after topping might have an adverse effect?

I have pictures of what happens when you top 1 week before flowering. These two tops are from the same plant that we had LST'd. We FIM'd a few of the tops and left a few normal to compare yields. They only had approx 1 week recovery time.

[Splifted]

Ok, I've thinned down the garden to the girls I'm keeping and gave 5 others to a friend. Because some of the tall ones turned out to be girls too, I'm thinking of topping a couple. I want to start flowering in a week or two...is it too late to top? They are on their 7th or 8th nodes and I just transplanted tonight into their final 3 gallon pots. I'm concerned that by topping they may be in shock for awhile and starting to flower so soon after topping might have an adverse effect?

Also doco, if you are really wanting an even canopy, I suggest you top them then LST them. If you do that at node 7, you will get approximately 14 main tops that are all about the same height, 2 for each node. This is what one I topped at 6 nodes and then tied over ended up looking like. It is by far the most even canopy out of all the plants, and we tried a bit of everything to see what works for us. It also has the largest overall colas, but none of the little bitty nugs the other ones have.

1st pic is what it looked like when it was topped at node 6 on like oct 16th, and the 2nd one is from like november 15th or so, about a month later. As soon as we topped it, we tied it over sideways, and now the very bottom node is the most dominant cola, its kinda crazy

[justaseed]

these plant were topped about 30 times each! each pic is a different plant vegged under 4ft flouros only. going to flower 7 days after topping is totally fine. with larger plants i've topped/pruned right as i started flowering without any real problems. scrog forces you to do alot of training in early flower and i have never seen any bad effects as i yeild close to a lb with a 400hps.

[Splifted]

these plant were topped about 30 times each! each pic is a different plant vegged under 4ft flouros only. going to flower 7 days after topping is totally fine. with larger plants i've topped/pruned right as i started flowering without any real problems. scrog forces you to do alot of training in early flower and i have never seen any bad effects as i yeild close to a lb with a 400hps.

This man is a god, listen to him. I'm still jealous of your scrogging skills mr seed, one day I will catch up :cool:

[justaseed]

it's not hard, you could grow the same thing. the plant does all the growing, you just gotta watch and listen to give them what they are asking for. i have only be doing this for a few years, i just tried different techniques until i found what worked best with my limited space. thanks for the compliment.

[DonJuan]

Topping and training is the only way t0 go if you have limited space!

[doco]

Thanks for all the great responses! I think XCrispi made a very relevant point - light penetration is the key and all the height in the world doesn't matter if lights not getting where it does the most good. I think for this grow I will just top them and next time I'll LST/top and compare notes. I'd like to have more room horizontally to properly LST and my next grow will be just 4 plants.

I've already followed JustaSeeds incredible scrog thread - excellent example of great yields with just a few plants. It was fantastic to watch and it helped reprogram my "more plants is better" mentality. Scrog is definitely on my to-do list.

Also been following your great examples Splifted - awesome job!!

I just inherited a wardrobe cabinet 18 x 30 x 72 - maybe I will try cloning GK! That should be plenty of room for a mother and a cloner.

Thanks again to everyone! :D

[Garden Knowm]

MORE PENETRATION TALK...

Go outside and look at a dense bush.. you will see that not even the almighty SUN can penetrate more than 1 inch of dense foliage...

Keep the lights close.. and the plants short... unless.. of course.. you are using side lighting or ifyou are growing only 1 -3 plants under 1000 WATT HPS..
there are exceptions to everything..

[Splifted]

MORE PENETRATION TALK...

Go outside and look at a dense bush.. you will see that not even the almighty SUN can penetrate more than 1 inch of dense foliage...

Keep the lights close.. and the plants short... unless.. of course.. you are using side lighting or ifyou are growing only 1 -3 plants under 1000 WATT HPS..
there are exceptions to everything..

4 plants under a 1000 watter for me :)

[Garden Knowm]

4 plants under a 1000 watter for me :)

SWEET!!!

HEY justaseed.. YOUR PICTURES are THE FUCKING WITCHES TITS!!! ALWAYS.. i really appreciate your work!!!!

iloveyou

[justaseed]

thanks, just wait till i finish building my new 4ftx4ftx6ft 1kw cooltube scrog grow!!!!

[Abattoir Dream]

YOUR PICTURES are THE FUCKING WITCHES TITS!!!


HAHAHAHAHAA lol thats funny :)

[MedaCynMan72]

Raspect & Peace
Planted Seed DEC. 14th....Gonna Transplant next week...
When a good time to top B4 Flower....
can you do both or will it shock or stress plant..?

One Tamatoe PLANT.....LOTS of RASTA LOVE:rastasmoke: ....oneLove

[Garden Knowm]

I would not TOP and transplant at the same time.. a bit risky..

I would transplant... then top.. then flower..

in that order.. with 3-7 days break between each....

cheers

pictures?
:)