the book of lies

[orange floyd]

recently, i've been studying the philosiphy of Aleister Crowley, and a lot of it seems pretty cool. I found an online version of The Book of Lies that ive been looking through, and a lot of it is very poetic and symbolic, but to be honest, i am completely baffled by it (which i've read may be due to lack of knowledge of kaballa [sp?]). anyone into thelema/aleister crowley that would be able to enlighten me about this book?

[RyanTheCaveman]

Yeh I'm wiccan. So i hear a great lot about him. personally i want to research him up but my lazy ass wont try :P
He has a ton of books. Try looking on Amazon.com
You can find His best books.

[Polymirize]

Dude, start with something a little more accessible like the Kybalion

www.kybalion.org

As for Crowley, I'm not sure that he's not simply a completely warped narcissist with some thematic insights and delusions of grandeur.

I dunno, maybe he's a genius...

[JunkYard]

Dude, start with something a little more accessible like the Kybalion

www.kybalion.org

As for Crowley, I'm not sure that he's not simply a completely warped narcissist with some thematic insights and delusions of grandeur.

I dunno, maybe he's a genius...


Dude, I've read that book over three times now, and love it. It's a very easy, and understandable read, too. Even so, there are many layers to it, and each with its own meaning...Great little book, imo.


As for Crowley...he's quite complicated, and can be very vague. Best leave Crowley alone until you're comfortable within the occult arts.


Hermetics is a good place to start, imo. The kabalion by the three initiates is a fantastic read, or I found it to be, anyway. I'm a little dim witted, and the other stuff just goes completely over my head. You may be different, orange floyd...


Love,

[orange floyd]

ight thanks to both of you. gonna look for an online version of it cause i never get around to the book store

[Perp]

The World was Lied to about Hitler's Death


http://www.blackraiser.com/nredoubt/identity.htm


'Identity Theft' must be carried out before an impostor can use the name of another person to commit fraud

As the Third Reich collapsed in the spring of 1945, the Russians were the first to enter Berlin and capture Adolf Hitler's bunker. Then, the Soviet Union made a series of contradictory statements or lies concerning Hitler's death. Stalin announced to Truman during lunch in Potsdam on July 17, that Hitler did not commit suicide but had probably escaped. After that, the Russians released photographs of what they claimed to be Hitler's corpse on a dingy floor.

"Before Hitler was, I am." - Aleister Crowley

http://www.blackraiser.com/nredoubt/ident2.htm


The occultist magician Aleister Crowley liked to describe himself as the Antichrist of the Apocalypse (Therion - Beast 666) and once boasted: "Before Hitler was, I am." He often claimed that Adolf Hitler was his guinea pig or magic child, a term used by hypnotists to describe an "inner shadow" or product of the unguarded psyche.

While in America during the First World War, Crowley unflinchingly proposed "collecting a large number of photographs, full face and profile for each subject, and classifying them according to the horoscope." To other occultists, such a photo experiment would have been for "the educated astrologer to adopt scientific methods of study." But it would have also been a very good way for a schemer of in-the-flesh identity fraud to look for his double or look-alike:


While it is still not clear whether Aleister Crowley was primarily spying for Britain, Germany, or a rogue regime, we do know from his writings that he was looking for a distinct type of doppelganger or "Magic Child." Of course, Crowley's double had to be someone who closely resembled him in photos and in the flesh. But Crowley also needed a look-alike with a clean police and service record, perhaps even a soldier noted for courage on the battlefield. He also needed someone single, an unknown loner living far enough away from any family members or friends who might otherwise notice the "switch-over." But most important, he needed someone who was still morally innocent; a virgin. The Magic Child would be the ritual sacrificial victim or foundational guinea pig for Crowley's new anti-Christian religion. The motives which determined the policy of Crowley's political actions would be kept secret. The Magic Child would be forced to forfeit his identity and, if the devil had his way, even his soul.