RoX / Rocks - Bud Densener/Thickener

[MrWhippy]

Hi, I heared about this chemical that you can add to a flowering plant that makes the buds grow denser.

when the plant is in the flowering stage you add a certain amount of this RoX or Rocks chemical. Once added, it makes the final buds on your plant expand and as a result, your buds are alot thicker than they would be naturally, so this chemical makes the buds just like the name says "Rocks", it makes the buds very dense and thick.

I have done ALOT of google'ing and i cannot find any information on this product (or any like it). If anyone has any information on this product, or a product that gives you similar results then please let me, and everyone on this forum know, as i think this particular chemical sounds genius.

Thanks,
Sam

[stinkyattic]

Save your cash, water with molasses! :D

[CaliJay]

Stinky Attic, You say water with molasses. I figure you are giving the plant sugars to convert to carbs? Is that something you would do if you were going cheap with your nutes? Would that be something that would be useful in hydro? Do good quality nutes already have good levels of sugars?

[Caligreen]

from what little I have read most nutes dont really have much in the sugar department. Carbs are almost always used as a suppliment. You don't really need to start useing them untill you are a ways into flowering. Anyway, a suppliment like carboblast is more effective than using table sugars or molasses since it is a blend of many different carbs

"CarboBlast a concentrated blended mixture of simple and complex carbohydrates. The addition of multi-carbohydrates to your plant feeding program accelerates the phloem (tissue that transports organic solutes) without adding an NPK value."

In any case adding carbs probably can't hurt anything.

[u.g.u]

the product you are asking about is called gravity by humboldt hydro I have never used it but every one says they become rock hard according to the guy at the hydro store.

[stinkyattic]

I've never used molasses with hydro and probably wouldn't because I was doing flood-and-drain and would hate to end up with a sticky mess.

But for soil, molasses is great because not only is is a source of sugars for the plant, but it provides benefits to microorganisms in the soil.

[u.g.u]

if you diluite the molasses in hot water it will disolve completly then mix it with your water it will be fine its the same as sweet or carbo load.

[truthseeker]

I've used molasses in hydro very good results no stcky mess just sticky buds

[harris7]

if you diluite the molasses in hot water it will disolve completly then mix it with your water it will be fine its the same as sweet or carbo load.

i'm using sweet, have you. how did it work. i'm only using it beacuse it was free with one of my lights. It pH's the water too which is nice.

[Abattoir Dream]

As far back as my memory goes... (about 3 days) i think i heard bad things about that RoX stuff... i think i read somewhere that it effects taste... not 100% sure tho, maybe if you used molasses for flavour and that RoX stuff for bud density it would work out great... i dunno tho, i gotta start buying some of these new age growth-bombs soon... especially some mollases...

lol only cuz stinky sed so...:D

[kindprincess]

super bloom by green light (super phosphate) and molasses are my flowering weapons... and the buds on my last grow were so big, i cant even upload the photo's (too many pixels) lol...

i use one and a half tablespoons of molasses per gallon of water IN ADDITION to normal ferts... the sugar just helps the plant metabolize the nutrients better, and providing extra carbs... plain ol' sugar works too:)

love, kp:p

[canuck grower]

I don't mean to hijack your thread MrWhippy. Hopefully these are quick questions and are somewhat relevant.

I'm growing for the first time and I'm probably going to try out this sugar/molasses idea. Day 17 of flower right now and we're seeing lots of pistils on new growth. I have a couple of questions though.

First, should I even bother with this on my first grow? If it's probably not going to make a noticeable difference until I'm more experienced then you can ignore the rest of the questions. ;)

Should I wait until actual buds start to grow before adding any sugar to their water?

I'm giving them straight water every 3rd watering. Should I add any sugar to that or only when they're getting ferts as well?

KP: you said that plain old sugar works as well. Would cane sugar or brown sugar be any better? I only ask because I know that refined white sugar is not the healthiest sugar for humans.

I have white sugar and brown sugar on hand, but if molasses is better than either one I will pick up some of that instead.

-canuck :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

canuck grower,
molasses is not only good for the plant, but for the beneficials in the soil.
So I'd use it over other forms of sugar.
I occasionally give molasses even in veg for this reason, plus the bonus that ALL plants like carbon. I give TopMax a couple times during veg, even!
The combination of molasses (carbon) plus Sweet and /or TopMax (carbon synthesizers) is great and I recommend it highly. I use all 3.

[the yeag]

super bloom by green light (super phosphate) and molasses are my flowering weapons... and the buds on my last grow were so big, i cant even upload the photo's (too many pixels) lol...

i use one and a half tablespoons of molasses per gallon of water IN ADDITION to normal ferts... the sugar just helps the plant metabolize the nutrients better, and providing extra carbs... plain ol' sugar works too:)

love, kp:p
that is EXACTLY what i use:jointsmile: works great about 3 bucks for the greenlight....enough for several grows...and 2 bucks for the mollases..again one bottle will last several grows:jointsmile:

[xcrispi]

hey all ,
crispis almost outta the "sweet" all the dist. were giving away .
i grow in hydro w/ w/f . < stinky or k/p > what ratio do you suggest i use as far as tsp. molasses per. gal. of water ? crispis so tight he squeaks . lol
peace
crispi

[canuck grower]

Thanks for the advice and the explanation stinky. I'll be picking up some molasses before the girls' next feeding and looking into Sweet and TopMax. :D

[stinkyattic]

I'm really sloppy with my molasses mixing... in dirt... you know, hard to screw up!!! The hard part is getting it out of the jar, it's so cold in my house I have to leave it on top of the ballast to stay fluid... I use about a tablespoon per 4L whenever I remember to , maybe once a week? Uh... not too helpful, sorry!

If I had to choose only one supplement though it would be the topmax. That stuff is pretty amazing all on its own.

Again, there seems to be a little confusion: Sweet is not a bottle of sugar!!! It has carb synth agents in it! That's why a little goes a long way if you supplement with another source of sugar!

[smoking99]

I have been using a product called "Blossom Set" It does work and it works good. The active chemicals are called Cytokinin and Kinetin they are said to be organic. I don't know who said it. Liquid Karma also has Cyrokinin in it. Blossom set works better for me because I spray it right on the bud. You can also spray Liquid Karma, the color of it might stain the buds.
Happy Trails & Peace to all

[canuck grower]

I wasn't confused about Sweet, but thanks for setting me straight anyway. ;)

[DeepFriedBrain]

the product you are asking about is called gravity by humboldt hydro I have never used it but every one says they become rock hard according to the guy at the hydro store.

There is a stuff called rock, mate of my sells it in his shop.
and yes it makes you buds hard.
Dunno what's in it, but I can ask.
There is another stuff called Sweet Leaf, potassium based stuff adds wieght and flavour.

[madeline]

I've been running around the various grow sites looking for info about using molasses in our grows and was going to start a thread looking for experience here before I used the search engine and found a little info but haven't spent the time digging into the 3 or 4 threads about it yet. I just wanted to post this link for those interested to read and talk about its possibilties when I get back online this evening. I have a large enough selection of various strains in different stages of maturity to mount somewhat of a scientific research project on adding molasses to the water so that it might pay off for everyone but wanted opinions and more important, any hands-on knowledge of it beforehand.
I don't normally do experiments like this but this one seems pretty safe and somewhat already documented in the link below BUT definitely hope beginners and those with few plants will not attempt it or any other experiments before they have a nice stash built up and can afford to lose a few plants. I post it here only because of the large amount of growers around and hopefully to show others how research should be done and why those who can't afford to lose should stick with "the book". I can get away with it only because I made almost too many clones of two totally different strains and all are in various stages of development so there are many plants with the same genes for a good comparison. I am short on time so this will begin very soon after hearing comments from those in the know and a little discussion...like tomorrow!

Please read the info at the link below...

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - 3LB's Molasses Info (PFMJ's recreation of it) (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=21494)