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JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 02:06 AM
If you can't tip "AT LEAST" 15% don't eat in a resturant.
There I said it.
cannabis campbell
11-13-2006, 02:11 AM
True but if your a selfish bastard then you dont have to lol
birdgirl73
11-13-2006, 02:14 AM
You a waiter, Jagged Edge?  I used to be one when I was a kid in college, and I always tip well. It always bugs me when others don't do the same thing if they got good service.
cannabis campbell
11-13-2006, 02:14 AM
Yeah i have to do that crap in college aswell lol i hate being on your feet all day its hard work
zephyrinne
11-13-2006, 02:17 AM
I always tip at least 15%.  If service is incredible I'll go as high as 25%.  
That being said, if the service I recieve is not up to par with what I think it should be, then I'll deduct it from the tip.  If I sit at my table for 15 minutes with an empty glass, well then that waiter isn't going to get 15%.. if my waiter is horrible, I won't even leave one (which is rare.. only happened once or twice).
JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 02:54 AM
I used to be, now I work in the dish room at a resturant. More work and a little less money, but I don't have to deal with shitty customers. I have waited tables and I usually tip really well.
As for tipping less if the service is bad, I understand. But you have to think about if it is the servers fault or the kitchens. It also pisses me off when someone gets free shit from you for what ever reason and don't show anything for it with the tip. I have given customers free meals before and they still leave a fucking dollar. 
Watch "waiting" 
Great movie.
Oh and I posted this because I saw a shit load of doallar tips and all change tips tonight at work. It pisses me off when it is a coworker I like too. I would say that is about 75%, I like most people.
JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 03:24 AM
Look, someone is "waiting" on you. They are providing for you. People should want to tip someone serving them well as a thank you. Good service deserves a reward, no other job field beside prostitution has someone act as your slave for the hour or say it takes. Well maybe there are more, but keep in mind, your server is most likely getting paid 2.13-2.15 an hr.
And I can understand if your in another country. I think it's France where they don't tip at all. I'm sure there are other coutries the same. But in america it is socially dictated you should tip. And that my friend is the way it should be 
I just thought about Reservoir Dogs. Great movie.
Cheery Cherry
11-13-2006, 03:37 AM
I am a great tipper. Living in New York, you learn to be.
Wilken
11-13-2006, 03:41 AM
I think 15% percent is bullshit. If you think about it, the amount of your food depends on the amount. It isnt any harder to carry one plate of food versus another. Or if you have alot of people with you. All of thier food will raise the tip even higher. The waitor or waitress it already coming to that table so there is not really that much more work. I think 5% does it. Maybe less dpending on the quality of service.
mamma puffpuff420
11-13-2006, 04:18 AM
i feel 10% is enough
zephyrinne
11-13-2006, 04:18 AM
I used to be, now I work in the dish room at a resturant. More work and a little less money, but I don't have to deal with shitty customers. I have waited tables and I usually tip really well.
As for tipping less if the service is bad, I understand. But you have to think about if it is the servers fault or the kitchens. It also pisses me off when someone gets free shit from you for what ever reason and don't show anything for it with the tip. I have given customers free meals before and they still leave a fucking dollar. 
Watch "waiting" 
Great movie.
Oh and I posted this because I saw a shit load of doallar tips and all change tips tonight at work. It pisses me off when it is a coworker I like too. I would say that is about 75%, I like most people.
Yeah, I always make sure my tip is reflective of the waiter's service and not the kitchen.  I completely understand that it is not the waiter's fault if my steak is overcooked, or if my mashed potatoes are cold.  While I'll let the waiter know that my food isn't up to my liking, it won't come off the tip.. unless of course, like I said before, the service isn't great.  :)
Waiting is a great movie.  Thing is, that's how a lot of places actually are.
dopesmoker
11-13-2006, 04:21 AM
it all depends on the service. Good service and everything then higher tip then a snarly bitchy old woman
tootsie roll
11-13-2006, 04:29 AM
I don't really believe in tipping.  If you're not making enough money and you need tips to tie it all up, then complain to your congressman.
Then you should stick to McD's BK, KFC and Taco Bell.
You don't belong at a fancy 4-5* restaurant.
No Four Seasons for you Billionfold.:eat: :abduct:
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 04:41 AM
If you can't tip "AT LEAST" 15% don't eat in a resturant.
There I said it.
Being a former waitress, I always give at least 20%.
S.P.Q.R.
11-13-2006, 04:43 AM
I only tip when the waitress deserves it.
lagstronaut
11-13-2006, 04:45 AM
I think what people have to realise is [at least around here anyway] waiters and waitresses make LESS than minimum wage because their employers are counting on them making tips. Now, they need these tips just to make a bit more than what minimum wage even is, and that is rough
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 04:47 AM
I think what people have to realise is [at least around here anyway] waiters and waitresses make LESS than minimum wage because their employers are counting on them making tips. Now, they need these tips just to make a bit more than what minimum wage even is, and that is rough
That is actually not true everywhere.
S.P.Q.R.
11-13-2006, 04:48 AM
I think what people have to realise is [at least around here anyway] waiters and waitresses make LESS than minimum wage because their employers are counting on them making tips. Now, they need these tips just to make a bit more than what minimum wage even is, and that is rough
And if they do their job right, they should get tips. But if they don't give good service, they shouldn't. That's why it's a "Tip"
slipknotpsycho
11-13-2006, 04:52 AM
lol.... my wife never wants to leave a tip... i always have to 'put my foot down' to leave a tip because i just dont' feel right leaving a resturaunt, reguardless of quality of service, without leaving somethign for them.. i've never been a waiter, BUT I LIVE IN AMERICA! i've seen more then enough pun poked at waiters/waitresses at how much they make without tips, to NOT leave one... 
however the tip i wish to leave isn't proportional to the service i get, it's more proportional to how drunk i am at the time... lmao... usually i'd leave a 3-5 dollar tip for a waiter, first time me and my wife went to a bar (shortly after i turned 21) i ended up wanting, and actually tipping the particular bar tender i kept going back to, 10 bucks... needless to say he was very happy about the tip.. but he was hooking my wife up (one after another) with a 7 dollar drink for 4 bucks a pop... 
i thought about asking what he puts in them, but figured that'd probably be rude, or something along those lines... it was damn good, i know he used about 7 diffrent liqours, some pinapple and either water or sprite... only thing i know about the drink for sure is that it used something blue, not hypnotiq... he made it up himself... lol my wife got so drunk that nite i had to undress her and put her in night clothes... never in my life have i seen someone so FUBAR'd AND they didn't even puke... i've been more FUBAR'd then most people could ever hope to be, but i ended up puking everytime....
slipknotpsycho
11-13-2006, 04:54 AM
And if they do their job right, they should get tips. But if they don't give good service, they shouldn't. That's why it's a "Tip"
dunno about where you live, but around here everyone's a cheap ass, doesn't matter how much the waiter/ress kisses ass, people rarely even leave a tip... hell i feel like i'm overpaying by leaving a 3-5 dollar tip (that usually works out to be about 10% which i think is fair..)
oh and i know this for a fact because i used to work at one of the best resturants in my area (as far as quality is concerned.... this place made casa ole', luby's, picadilly's and every other place seem like a 1 star mcdonalds, atleast as far as everything in the back is concerned) and i would often hear about how everyone in [insert town] are such cheap asses and never tip...
lagstronaut
11-13-2006, 04:57 AM
And if they do their job right, they should get tips. But if they don't give good service, they shouldn't. That's why it's a "Tip"
well yeah, i'm just talking about people who say they don't tip ever, or only tip a certain amount like 10% or something even if they did really good. in my mind i'm giving them 15% unless they do something to get it lower, not so much that i go in thinking they are getting nothing unless they wipe my ass for me ;) 
That is actually not true everywhere.
oh :p
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 05:01 AM
well yeah, i'm just talking about people who say they don't tip ever, or only tip a certain amount like 10% or something even if they did really good. in my mind i'm giving them 15% unless they do something to get it lower, not so much that i go in thinking they are getting nothing unless they wipe my ass for me ;) 
oh :p
Sorry I missed that you said, "At least here anyway".
I have heard of that many other places, and I just recently heard that it does happen around here too.  It is really quite uncommon here though.
Our minimum wage is 7.50(possibly bumped up to 7.80 in Jan)..it's really high.  I have been a waitress at a few places and all your tips are not included in your hourly wage.  However 8% of your wages and tips does have to get counted for for taxes which kind of screws ya over if you aren't making a lot of tips.
I have friends who work in restaurants who claim that after their tips they make an average of 30$ an hour.  Pretty nice.  I plan on getting a sweet cocktail waitressing job next.
lagstronaut
11-13-2006, 05:06 AM
Sorry I missed that you said, "At least here anyway".
I have heard of that many other places, and I just recently heard that it does happen around here too.  It is really quite uncommon here though.
Our minimum wage is 7.50(possibly bumped up to 7.80 in Jan)..it's really high.  I have been a waitress at a few places and all your tips are not included in your hourly wage.  However 8% of your wages and tips does have to get counted for for taxes which kind of screws ya over if you aren't making a lot of tips.
I have friends who work in restaurants who claim that after their tips they make an average of 30$ an hour.  Pretty nice.  I plan on getting a sweet cocktail waitressing job next.
minimum wage went from I think $6.85 to $7.50 in the last couple years, and by 2010 or something it's supposed to be $8.75 
and yeah i know this one guy who was bartending for a bit and on a normal saturday shift he'd leave with about $70 from his work and $200 from drunk asses who want more Alex Keith's :D
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 05:08 AM
My state I think has the 2nd high minimum wage of the US.
Pretty sweet.
Especially considering federal minimum wage is 5.15.
lagstronaut
11-13-2006, 05:10 AM
holy crap 5 bucks? for some people thats like wasting 2 hours of pay just to get to and from your damn job
"buy this car to drive to work
drive to work to pay for this car.."
tootsie roll
11-13-2006, 05:11 AM
To me, there are several levels of dining out.
First-There is the fast food slop that you don't tip for anyways
Second- There are the places like Dennys. Perkins, IHOP, Waffle House ect...
those places only pay minium and the kids and older ladies that staff there try hard for the abuse I've seen thrown at them. They deserve at least a few bucks if you're gonna take up a table.
Third. The Family restaurants, be they chinese, greek, Italian, Jewish, Indian ect....these are nice meals. These deserve at least a 15% tip if not more. Food made with love is the best.
Fourth- We have our suit and tie and little sexy black dress on ,we have the valet park our car and we start off with a nice bottle of wine that the sommilier recommended. There is candlelight and the lights are dimmed. The ambience is wonderful, the curls of butter atop crushed ice is lovely as is the relish tray. We order the beouf wellington for two and have a fantastic night.
15-20% doesn't even begin to cut it in this instance......This is a special night and for a special night, you need to pay up. This  is a night that you have to be happily ready to part with a $50 at least.
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 05:19 AM
holy crap 5 bucks? for some people thats like wasting 2 hours of pay just to get to and from your damn job
"buy this car to drive to work
drive to work to pay for this car.."
Yep..and some of those places include the tips as the hourly wage.  Really messed up.
dude yesterday i went to Denny's (great place, btw), and we got this bitchy fucking waitress. it was lame. this has never happened to me, especially not there. so anyways, we didn't tip her at all, because she didn't deserve it _AT_ALL_. what a lamer. if she had a bad day then she shouldn't take it out the people who are gonna be paying you. when we went up to pay, we complained, and the manager said that 5 minutes prior to us complaining someone else complained about her. haha, i hope she looses her job. sucker.
note: we usually pay 15%-20% when the service is good.
JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 06:14 AM
To me, there are several levels of dining out.
First-There is the fast food slop that you don't tip for anyways
Second- There are the places like Dennys. Perkins, IHOP, Waffle House ect...
those places only pay minium and the kids and older ladies that staff there try hard for the abuse I've seen thrown at them. They deserve at least a few bucks if you're gonna take up a table.
Third. The Family restaurants, be they chinese, greek, Italian, Jewish, Indian ect....these are nice meals. These deserve at least a 15% tip if not more. Food made with love is the best.
Fourth- We have our suit and tie and little sexy black dress on ,we have the valet park our car and we start off with a nice bottle of wine that the sommilier recommended. There is candlelight and the lights are dimmed. The ambience is wonderful, the curls of butter atop crushed ice is lovely as is the relish tray. We order the beouf wellington for two and have a fantastic night.
15-20% doesn't even begin to cut it in this instance......This is a special night and for a special night, you need to pay up. This  is a night that you have to be happily ready to part with a $50 at least.
Haha i worked in a little diner and I actually told this dude I wasn't serveing him. He eventually left, but I wasn't going to wait on him and I was the only server there. We were able to refuse service to anyone, not sure how legal that is... He was one of those assholes who tries to run you ragged. Than I give him free coffee for his and extra waffle because I fucked up on one. The asshole left nothing. So next time he came in I didn't get him shit. I broke up with a girl over this before.
chisme
11-13-2006, 06:16 AM
lol in the uk we dont really tip. it depend on what job your at like if your at a builders merchant and you load up a costomers van and sorta em out good tey set you a fiver, one time i waiting outside work for 20 minutes after closing time so this guy could come back and pick up a second load he gave me £40 which is fucking great!!
slipknotpsycho
11-13-2006, 06:26 AM
My state I think has the 2nd high minimum wage of the US.
Pretty sweet.
Especially considering federal minimum wage is 5.15.
lol in texas, minimum wage is 5.15, and believe me when i say, most jobs here will do everything they can to keep it at 5.15... i really don't understand why nation wide companies should be able to rake in on the states that pay 5.15... i'm sure in other states they're charging the same price for food/service that the 5.15 per hour charge, but the workers are getting (usually) way less then every other store (other then ones in that particular state) in the chain are getting....
ronjohn420
11-13-2006, 06:31 AM
I don't really believe in tipping.  If you're not making enough money and you need tips to tie it all up, then complain to your congressman.
im sorry BF, but im just compelled to write concerning this....
i had to wait for a while when i was in a bad perdicament (sp?) employment wise.
anyways do you folks realize the some of these waiters are busting thier ass and some only make 2.13 a hour and have kids to feed
should they maybe seek different employment???   yes
but maybe thats all they can do at the time, they hurry to get your food, manage sometimes 7-15 different tables and know what all people are having...
this takes a certian amount of skill....
and for 2.13 a hour.....  you should atleast acknowledge thier hard work (if you reicieved good service) 
BF you make alot of good posts (and im not flaming on you)
but people with your opinion, is the reason why alot of waiters treat people like shit, theyre just returning the favor
i have a couple of friends that are single mothers and are still in school and untill they get a education/degree that is all they can do (some people dont have a extensive resume like some of us)
so lets think and have alittle love???huh
Its a Plant
11-13-2006, 06:40 AM
I partially agree with what RonJohn and a few others have mentioned about low wages, but there comes a point when those individuals making that $3-4 bucks an hour shouldn't fully depend on good tippers to get them up to the federal minimum wage around $5-6.  It's like if you know that job has piss-poor wages, why would you continue to work it lol.
I've felt for years now that the fed. minimum wage needs to increase in a big way.  I know plenty of people who work full-time making only enough to scrape by, and with our booming economy, minimum wage MUST reflect that and keep up.  And it's not keeping up, people are getting screwed by the system, and it's pissing me off =)
If I go out to eat, which is becoming more of a rare thing, I don't ever calculate how much to tip.  If I liked the waiter/waitress and they were attentive, I'll give 'em say $5-6 bucks, but if service was bad, only a couple dollars at most.
And yes, Waiting was a side-splitter. Maybe that's why I don't venture into restaurants anymore? ~
ronjohn420
11-13-2006, 06:56 AM
I've felt for years now that the fed. minimum wage needs to increase in a big way.  I know plenty of people who work full-time making only enough to scrape by, and with our booming economy, minimum wage MUST reflect that and keep up.  And it's not keeping up, people are getting screwed by the system, and it's pissing me off =)
~
well this is because of "state capitalism" and the fact that our economy is booming and the corporate exec. are raking it in and not passing it down to the little man
fucking mercedes driving pricks!!!!!
i work as a computer technology specialist downtown in my city and i deal with these kind of people all the time.......
they are fucking rude and think that because they have clout at their job that they rule the world and everybody should kiss the ground they walk on...
fucking corporate pricks, i hate them 
(money does NOT run the world)
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
Its a Plant
11-13-2006, 07:01 AM
I just want to know where our modern-day Robin Hood is?
Here's one possible candidate =)
ronjohn420
11-13-2006, 07:04 AM
If the service was good, I'll leave 2-3 dollars.  If it was so-so, and I'm not talking about a real busy waiter with a full house, just a lazy waiter who takes his/her time getting you refills and such, I'll leave 1-2 dollars.  If it was a piss poor job, they won't get jack shit.
haha, yes im familar with those who will refill your drink and then will go outside and smoke cigs. for 15 minutes while your waiting to ask her a question and she is no where to be found
im not saying its proper to leave tips all the time
but if they are on their game, a tip IS a must
i know not too long ago i went to a steak n shake (the best place ever) at 6am and i was the only one there...
after my meal my total was like 19.xx and i gave her 2 20 dollar bills (one for the meal, and told her to split the 2nd and keep half) she looked at me weird and said "you know that over 50% of your meal" and i was like who gives a fuck, you gave me great service, talked to me, showed me she cared more then to just keep my coffee filled....
anyways she thought i was crazy and drunk (i was completly sober) but she was happy and i was full and happy.....  she made the extra effort so i did the same
if you treat me like a friend, ill do the same in return
ronjohn420
11-13-2006, 07:08 AM
I just want to know where our modern-day Robin Hood is?
Here's one possible candidate =)
holy shit, ive got a porno with that girl in it (i think)
haha  how strange
Reefer Rogue
11-13-2006, 08:15 AM
Leave a couple nuggs, a dolla and a dream.
CityBoyGoneCountry
11-13-2006, 11:32 AM
Why should I have to tip anything at all? What, because you're on your feet all day? Your job is a lot of hard work? Cry me a river. My job is hard too. I'm on my feet all day too. Give me a tip, bitch.
If you are an office worker sitting on your fat ass all day getting overpaid, then maybe you should feel obligated to tip. But I don't sit on my ass all day.
PAGETURNER420
11-13-2006, 01:42 PM
Just keep my glass full and you get 20% from me. However, I do get confused about how much I should tipping hairdresser, nail tech and coffee shops attendents..
TokeTilImBroke
11-13-2006, 01:59 PM
It's kind of crazy listening to some of these answers like "Why should I Tip" or "I don't feel the need to tip"...I'm feeling that this is rediculous. I always had the impression that everyone gives atleast 15% like you should, but people here are talking about a couple dollars or 5%...ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I don't know any other way of saying this except that is FUCKED UP. They are busting their ass for you waiting on you hand and foot for like 3 dollars around here and you can't fucking tip them...no wonder waiters/waitresses are often mad at the end of the night..you jackasses don't tip them...
Pulse
11-13-2006, 02:49 PM
I don't really believe in tipping.  If you're not making enough money and you need tips to tie it all up, then complain to your congressman.
i disagree 
i used to deliver pizza and and time i got under 2 bucks as a tip i would be pissed. people rely on those tips as a part of there income. not tipping them is not paying for your full price for there service. IF YOU CAN'T PAY FOR IT DON'T EVEN GO IN JUST GET TAKE OUT.
Skink
11-13-2006, 03:03 PM
Who puts money in a tip bowl at say a chinese resturant???
biker6403
11-13-2006, 03:05 PM
If you can't leave a tip for good service then stay home and cook for yourself.Now there's a new idea HUH!:) Also tip the person that delivers your pizza $5,they gotta buy gas for their ride also.
Skink
11-13-2006, 03:46 PM
If you can't leave a tip for good service then stay home and cook for yourself.Now there's a new idea HUH!:) Also tip the person that delivers your pizza $5,they gotta buy gas for their ride also.
I can't remember the last time I went to a resturant... I think it was when I was married 15 years ago... I do a lot of take out and called domino's a few times,,, I gave the pizza dude a fiver and a joint,I knew he smoked,,,lol I said wait and came back with a bone and he tried to give me the five back...
tip bowls I usually put  a deuce in it or the change from the order...
JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 08:08 PM
Why should I have to tip anything at all? What, because you're on your feet all day? Your job is a lot of hard work? Cry me a river. My job is hard too. I'm on my feet all day too. Give me a tip, bitch.
If you are an office worker sitting on your fat ass all day getting overpaid, then maybe you should feel obligated to tip. But I don't sit on my ass all day.
Does your job require you to wait on someone hand on foot? It is a rather degrading job, a lot like stripping in my opinion. As a server you have to sell yourself to your client like no other job, and wait on them hand and foot. Plus your server is making 2.15. That is why you should tip.
Not to mention we remember people. If you don't tip me and than I see you again, you will be getting the worst service ever.
dejayou30
11-13-2006, 08:10 PM
i almost always tip around 20%.  i realize that sometimes shit happens.  the only way i don't tip as much as if my pop is empty and i see the waiter standing around talking.  i hate being without something to drink when i eat.
Skink
11-13-2006, 08:15 PM
Why should I have to tip anything at all? What, because you're on your feet all day? Your job is a lot of hard work? Cry me a river. My job is hard too. I'm on my feet all day too. Give me a tip, bitch.
If you are an office worker sitting on your fat ass all day getting overpaid, then maybe you should feel obligated to tip. But I don't sit on my ass all day.
Does your job require you to wait on someone hand on foot? It is a rather degrading job, a lot like stripping in my opinion. As a server you have to sell yourself to your client like no other job, and wait on them hand and foot. Plus your server is making 2.15. That is why you should tip.
Not to mention we remember people. If you don't tip me and than I see you again, you will be getting the worst service ever.
I agre with you bashing CityBoyGoneCountry,but I hardly think waiting is degradeable,any respectable person earning an honest living deserves more merit than that...
mulltie
11-13-2006, 08:15 PM
If you can't tip "AT LEAST" 15% don't eat in a resturant.
There I said it.
i dont tip
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 08:18 PM
Being a food server and having to deal with customer service is pretty much just taking it up the ass all day with a fucking smile on your face.
I been doin' customer service for 5 years, and trust me, I am DAMN good at taking it up the ass with a fuckin mile wide GRIN.
DAMN me and my squeaky customer service voice.
"HEY THERE, HOW ARE YA DOING TODAY? WHAT CAN I DO FOR YA?  JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS!  OR IF YOU ARE READY!"
Fuck...no wonder they made me shift manager.
TRUST ME, from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE...taking it up the ass all day SUCKS..and those tips are what make it WORTH IT.
So for you people that don't tip, PLEASE GET A CUSTOMER SERVICE JOB..and then give me your goddamned opinion.
Skink
11-13-2006, 08:25 PM
Being a food server and having to deal with customer service is pretty much just taking it up the ass all day with a fucking smile on your face.
I been doin' customer service for 5 years, and trust me, I am DAMN good at taking it up the ass with a fuckin mile wide GRIN.
DAMN me and my squeaky customer service voice.
"HEY THERE, HOW ARE YA DOING TODAY? WHAT CAN I DO FOR YA?  JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS!  OR IF YOU ARE READY!"
Fuck...no wonder they made me shift manager.
TRUST ME, from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE...taking it up the ass all day SUCKS..and those tips are what make it WORTH IT.
So for you people that don't tip, PLEASE GET A CUSTOMER SERVICE JOB..and then give me your goddamned opinion.
I work with customers and true they can be a bitch,but not all... it is usually the working class that is just getting by that will give you the best customer experience... 
TG it just sounds like you hate your job...
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 08:28 PM
I work with customers and true they can be a bitch,but not all... it is usually the working class that is just getting by that will give you the best customer experience... 
TG it just sounds like you hate your job...
I actually loved my job, I just didn't like a lot of the customers.
I worked in an organic/natural deli that catered to people with special diets and dietary restrictions.
I basically got to deal with hippies/yuppies/picky ass people..
I was a great job, but seriously...the customers could be the worst.
Skink
11-13-2006, 08:36 PM
I actually loved my job, I just didn't like a lot of the customers.
I worked in an organic/natural deli that catered to people with special diets and dietary restrictions.
I basically got to deal with hippies/yuppies/picky ass people..
I was a great job, but seriously...the customers could be the worst.
a lot of people think "I am paying for it",,,but they don't look at the human side of things... wait people are people who work for the establishment and if a customer raggs on the wait person they are just ignorant...
stinkyattic
11-13-2006, 09:09 PM
If you can't/won't leave a solid tip, go to a restaurant that has counter service... one of those "number twelve your clams are ready" places. 
Waitstaff make crap base pay. The counter places usually pay more-you can still tip the register person anyway...
Otherwise, take care of your waitstaff!!!! They bust ass and lots of the time if you think the service is slow, it's the kitchen's fault. 
I know, I've worked all ends of it- waitress, bar, line cook, prep, dish, bus, catering....and I'll tell you the cooks will RIDE the waitresses if the food sits there waiting to be picked up!
TallulahGreen
11-13-2006, 09:12 PM
If you can't/won't leave a solid tip, go to a restaurant that has counter service... one of those "number twelve your clams are ready" places. 
Waitstaff make crap base pay. The counter places usually pay more-you can still tip the register person anyway...
Otherwise, take care of your waitstaff!!!! They bust ass and lots of the time if you think the service is slow, it's the kitchen's fault. 
I know, I've worked all ends of it- waitress, bar, line cook, prep, dish, bus, catering....and I'll tell you the cooks will RIDE the waitresses if the food sits there waiting to be picked up!
Man cooks can be such assholes.  I worked at a restaurant where every meal came with a fucking appetizer...and I would be the one to make and serve that...and then the fucking cook would finish it in like 2 seconds and yell at me for not bringing it out there..and id be like DUUUUDEE they just got there fucking appetizer.  Man he was such an ass and SO crappy at timing things right.
So lame.  Don't even bring me back to that horrible place of employment.
stinkyattic
11-13-2006, 09:16 PM
Man cooks can be such assholes.
....Man he was such an ass and SO crappy at timing things right.
So lame.  Don't even bring me back to that horrible place of employment.
I had the same problem with one of the saute cooks at a place I did the app line. He was such a prick, and thought it was funny when I'd get an order for some crazy antipasto with like one of everything on the line arranged just so... and he'd throw together the pasta dish and try to have it up at the same time as the app, just to mess with me. His sorry ass got fired though for just basically being a know-it-all jerk, lol.
Oh and he called himself "Turbo". Durrrr.
pabloescobar209
11-13-2006, 09:17 PM
I used to be, now I work in the dish room at a resturant. More work and a little less money, but I don't have to deal with shitty customers. I have waited tables and I usually tip really well.
As for tipping less if the service is bad, I understand. But you have to think about if it is the servers fault or the kitchens. It also pisses me off when someone gets free shit from you for what ever reason and don't show anything for it with the tip. I have given customers free meals before and they still leave a fucking dollar. 
Watch "waiting" 
Great movie.
Oh and I posted this because I saw a shit load of doallar tips and all change tips tonight at work. It pisses me off when it is a coworker I like too. I would say that is about 75%, I like most people.
Being a server is bad, because if everything goes great u take all the credit... but if everything goes wrong(ur fault or not) you take all the blame.
surreys princess
11-13-2006, 09:26 PM
i think a tip should be based strictly on service, and i definately think if you cant afford to tip you shouldnt be eating out or calling for delivery..that is a huge pet peeve of mine, when someone is too cheap to tip the delivery guy..i mean, you are too lazy to do it (cook or get your own food), and if it was your friend it would be "you fly ill buy"..idk...just me....oh, and if the service sucks, i leave a penny on the table...oh well...now you know all my dirty little secrets..lol
princess
JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 09:38 PM
There are much more degrading jobs than waiting.  For instance, a cashier.  I've seen cashiers get treated like dog shit in Wal-Mart.  They're on their feet a lot.  Now in my opinion, I would  feel much more obligated to tip a cashier than a waiter.
I have worked as a cahier before and the company paid my wages, not the customers. You stand there and take money and give change. A server is juggling multible table and trying to keep all his/her different customers with different needs happy. Plus there are a lot more things that can go wrong in a resturant which all gets blamed on the server. Yes I took abuse as a cashier, but nothing can compare to an asshole customer in a resturant. Working in retail is a lot easier and the company pay's you a base of at least minimum wage. Plus it is half the work, you aren't running all over the place with trays all day.
JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 09:41 PM
Man cooks can be such assholes.  I worked at a restaurant where every meal came with a fucking appetizer...and I would be the one to make and serve that...and then the fucking cook would finish it in like 2 seconds and yell at me for not bringing it out there..and id be like DUUUUDEE they just got there fucking appetizer.  Man he was such an ass and SO crappy at timing things right.
So lame.  Don't even bring me back to that horrible place of employment.
Delay putting it into the computer. Yeah, when you know the kitchen will fuck up the timing, you sometimes just have to put every thing in at different times. At least the appetizers and than the entree's.
stinkyattic
11-13-2006, 09:42 PM
I got [sort of] fired from one restaurant for totally bitching out a customer. 
It's actually kind of a funny story... he was a regular, came in every day for lunch, and every day he complained and I ended up spending more time with this one asswipe than all my other tables and bar seats combined! 
The other regulars knew it too... and when I finally finished telling him off, a few people actually started clapping! 
And the manager even told me that I could come back but I had to work in a different part of the restaurant for a while, lol.
stinkyattic
11-13-2006, 09:47 PM
At least you have a moment to get away from snarling, hissing customers.  
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Yes... that would be running into the walk-in cooler to either cry or punch boxes of lettuce, depending on the situation.
JaggedEdge
11-13-2006, 09:52 PM
Have you worked in either field before? If not than you are basing everything you are saying on this one observation. I have worked both jobs, and can tell you that serving is much more stressful than ringing up milk. I got hell behind the register sometimes, but nothing can compare to people in resturants that seem to know how to make you feel like complete shit. There isn't any good positon in a resturant. It is prob the most stressful job you can have. Kitchen, dish, waiting, it is all a chaotic mess, unless you work in a small little hole in the wall place. If it is such a cake walk, why do those who have served tip so well? Nearly everyone I know who has waited tables tips 5 bucks minimum. Usually if it is a cheap ticket I will tip about 50%. In my opinion if the service is good the server shouldn't get less than 5 bucks even if the ticket is 4 bucks. 
If you havn't worked in this industry than you don't know what it is like. Yes there are worse jobs out there, but those don't require money from customers to make ends meet. And why do people work in resturants? Because there is a lot of money to be made if you are good and work in a good resturant. But that shouldn't excuse people from skimping on a tip. Plus some of the best smoking buddies you will meet work in a resturant. It is the job of weed smokers and other drug users. No drug tests unless you hurt yourself on the job.
stinkyattic
11-13-2006, 09:55 PM
In my opinion if the service is good the server shouldn't get less than 5 bucks even if the ticket is 4 bucks. 
   
Yeah seriously, my biggest pet peeve is seeing someone at a diner who sits there milking their free coffee refills for 2 hours and leaves a few coins because the bill was only $3, but the waitress was over there every 15 minutes going, "Wahmah, hun?" BOOO!!!!
Skink
11-13-2006, 09:58 PM
I think pretty waitress's should be able to give bj's,,, then they could make like 2 3 thousand a night...
CityBoyGoneCountry
11-13-2006, 10:51 PM
Not to mention we remember people. If you don't tip me and than I see you again, you will be getting the worst service ever.
Fine, then let's just see how good your next car is welded together. :D
TallulahGreen
11-14-2006, 12:38 AM
There are much more degrading jobs than waiting.  For instance, a cashier.  I've seen cashiers get treated like dog shit in Wal-Mart.  They're on their feet a lot.  Now in my opinion, I would  feel much more obligated to tip a cashier than a waiter.
At my old job, I did both......
BabyFacedAbortion
11-14-2006, 12:44 AM
I tip atleast 15 dollars. I don't care about percentages, because my meal is usually always under 20 dollars but we travel with a large crew sometimes so we all throw in our left over cash, which adds up fast.
psychocat
11-14-2006, 12:45 AM
I have waited tables and always recieved good tips, the simple reason is that I always take my work seriously and like to be the best no matter what I'm doing.
 Bad waiters get bugger all and the tip is totaly dependent on the service, if the food is crap then I will ask to see the chef and he will be told exactly what I think, but if everything from the waiter was sound then he/she will get what they deserve.
I guess the English must be a little more polite since I really enjoyed my time waiting tables .. :D
JaggedEdge
11-14-2006, 02:42 AM
I have waited tables and always recieved good tips, the simple reason is that I always take my work seriously and like to be the best no matter what I'm doing.
 Bad waiters get bugger all and the tip is totaly dependent on the service, if the food is crap then I will ask to see the chef and he will be told exactly what I think, but if everything from the waiter was sound then he/she will get what they deserve.
I guess the English must be a little more polite since I really enjoyed my time waiting tables .. :D
Americans are greedy assholes. I have gotten some really good tips, but have also gotten screwed over a lot. Now I know when I really fucked up at a table and my tip might suffer. I understand that. Sometimes I'll just have a really bad day where I can't seem to get anything right. I went back to the dish room because I was tired of dealing with customers. To many assholes. 
Not to mention drunk men with an attractive female server. That shit pisses me off. Treat your server with respect. Not saying anyone here does that but I have seen it many times.
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