Shower turned Growroom!!

[howie66]

Hey all, I have setup my shower vanity (just a standard sized shower) into a growroom. I have insulated with aluminium foil, the covered again with PVC foil with the White side out. I have covered the top with a type of "lid" like apperatus, so as to keep the temperature maintained at a constant 25-28 celcius (80-85F)
I have three 20 litre pots, filled with coco-peat organic, and are using the THC A and B Nutrients. Over the 3 plants I have 600watt HPS, With a 600w hps Ballast running at 18 on, 6 off. Also Have occilating fan at intervals of 15 minutes OFF.. 45 minutes ON while the lights are on and 15 minutes ON and 45 minutes OFF when lights are off. I also have a Mistral Extractor fan running every so often to freshen the air. What Im wondering though is whether this shower vanity will be big enough to grow all three plants?? The heights not a problem, but isnt it bad for plants to touch each other when they become bigger??:confused:

[howie66]

Her are some pics each one was taken every 2 days over the past 9 days.. I will add more as they get older :) Im just wondering whether once they get to a good size, will the become to cramped?

[howie66]

Can anybody suggest whether the shower will be big enough to get big buds from 3 plants? This is my first time grow

[brookerosebud]

how big is your shower, and no, plants touching each other won't be hurt by it. if they are too close together, they won't get enough light, and will become stretched and stringy. if that is a bathtub sized shower, you're good to go.

love, brooke

[howie66]

Thanks Brooke. What you see in the pic is as far apart as I can get the pots. So basically the shower is as wide as 2 x 20 litre pots lol. So they will touch when they are bigger. Its just a shower Vanity, not a bathtub shower. Still good to go do you think?

[brookerosebud]

for only those three, yes. i say go for it. it's gonna be a little tight, just keep moving leave around when the get bigger. that way all different areas will get light and no one area starves for it. and you may end up having to drop a daylight cfl down in between them for good measure. i beleive daylight bulbs are cool to the touch, so no burn risk as with the warm cfl's.

i think you'll do fine, as long a you flower when they are almost touching.

hey i just got an idea. go to a hard ware store and get some wire shelving. run one behind each pot, and just weave them in as they grow!

heh heh. damn im good.

let me know what you think.

love, brooke

[howie66]

Thanks Brooke, Il give it a go and let you know how im doing. Good idea about the wire shelving too.. I have another idea for putting it another place in my bathroom where i would be able to space them out more. Whats the perfect distance between pots with a 600w HPS? Any suggestions from other people would be appreciated too :)

[Abattoir Dream]

dont use aluminium foil! it focuses light into hot spots and cant roast your plants! i use white printer paper or white gloss paint, NEVER USE FOIL...! thats the no.1 rule, people confuse MYLAR with foil, dont worry, its a mistake thats easily made, just rip down that foil asap,

p.s. I like the shower idea, i would probably only use it for seedlings and adolescent plants, then move adults somewhere more airy

[howie66]

Thanks mate. Ive only used al foil on the cold tiles, then I have covered that with that stuff thats black on one side and white on the other. (ive forgotten what its called) I got it from the grow shop, so i guess its ok. The white reflects the light great. Any suggestions from anybody on what i should use on the shower FLOOR?? At the moment all i have is like thick sponge, worked great at first, but the weight of the pots has flatted it and im worried that they wont be breathing through the bottom holes or could even get mould into the dirt? Any suggestions from anybody would be fantastic:)

[brookerosebud]

justs put plates under the pots, and put directly on the shower floor. shower is white, right? your light should be about 2 1/2 feet away from the plants. if you have heat probs at that distance, raise the light. also, with hid's a nonstop fan is a must!

love, brooke

ps, don't worry about the foil as you have it covered up. no danger there, just extra insulation

[BlueBear]

Hey Brook, actually with that light, if you can get it with in a ft, or 12 inches of the plants they will explode with growth. This is only if you can control the heat though.
Adieu

[brookerosebud]

right bear, i was thinking he had ballast and lamp above the plants and was only running a fan 15 mins an hour. my bad, howie. you had said temps were at 85f. by the way, what kind of light ARE you using, howie? i try to keep my temps at or around 73 degrees.
sorry howie, sorry bear.

love, brooke

[howie66]

Hey brooke, I use a 600watt HPS. And currently its about 2 feet above the plants. The fan runs at 45 mins ON 15 minutes OFF. Do you think I should have it running contstantly? Its spring here in Oz atm, so nice warm weather during the days, but gets very cold at night, and if I run the fan all night it gets down to like 62-65F. To cold thats why I leave the fan off for a while so the temperature gets a bit warmer.

[BlueBear]

Your plant will still thrive with in the 60's, and 85 is a little high, it's pushing it, low 70's would be kind of ideal for a good medium. I would maybe run the lights at night to balance out the heat/cold issue and see what you can do.
Not a problem Brook, always nice to run across you on another thread. Keep making us smile.
Adieu

[brookerosebud]

in my opinion, you should leave the fan on 24 hour a day. this will strengthen stems, and provide constant air circulation. good things. yep, leave the fan on all the time.

love brooke

[bud breath420]

i always wanted someone to see someone grow weed in their shower.. Howie your from Aus right? good luck with the grow

[brookerosebud]

Hey brooke, I use a 600watt HPS. And currently its about 2 feet above the plants. The fan runs at 45 mins ON 15 minutes OFF. Do you think I should have it running contstantly? Its spring here in Oz atm, so nice warm weather during the days, but gets very cold at night, and if I run the fan all night it gets down to like 62-65F. To cold thats why I leave the fan off for a while so the temperature gets a bit warmer.

62-65 degrees is just fine, your plants will love it. only reason my temps aren't at 65 is because they leveled at 73 and stayed there, so that was good enough for me.

love, brooke

[brookerosebud]

Hey brooke, I use a 600watt HPS. And currently its about 2 feet above the plants. The fan runs at 45 mins ON 15 minutes OFF. Do you think I should have it running contstantly? Its spring here in Oz atm, so nice warm weather during the days, but gets very cold at night, and if I run the fan all night it gets down to like 62-65F. To cold thats why I leave the fan off for a while so the temperature gets a bit warmer.

62-65 degrees is just fine, your plants will love it. only reason my temps aren't at 65 is because they leveled at 73 and stayed there, so that was good enough for me.

love, brooke

ps, plants will sustain temps as low as 40f at night without probs (outdoor growing exp). as a matter of fact, if you want your plants to change color at the end of flowering, lower temps to 50-55 degrees f. they'll get all perdy and red/purple/blue/pink. realy cool!

love, brooke

[brookerosebud]

how's the shower coming, howie??

love, brooke

[Tupamaro]

hey brooke why don't you roll on into my shower girl. we'll see growing and everything.

[brookerosebud]

yeah, but you might need some nutes; i like large fast growth, lol

yer so bad!!!

love, brooke

[Buddahbear]

I think it might be a good idea to consider a 600w MH>HPS conversion bulb for vegetation. You'll get better results with a MH for vegging than an HPS.

[Tupamaro]

well you just might have the nutes i need to reach new heights. talk to ya lata girl.

[brookerosebud]

hey tup, as long as you like super phosphate, lol.

howie, ohh howwwiieeee? where are you babe?

[2MC5]

can you post some pic? i whant to see how the grow is going

[Tupamaro]

i see how it is, you'd really rather be with a dude named howie. i think i'm going to be sad for a long time now. hahaha j/k miss. good luck on the grow howie, sorry for hijacking for a bit, i had to for that ass.

[Buddahbear]

You should consider a hydroponic system for that shower! You've got a built in drain and very ready access to water. It's perfect.

[howie66]

Hey Guys. They are growing perfectly still! I had a bit of trouble a few days ago with the hot day we had, but they are still coming along nicely. Hey Brooke, since u told me to put the fan on, the stems have become really woody. Thanks for that Hun :)
Can anybody tell me what sort of plants these might be? I will have some more updated pics very soon I promise people :)
Talk to yas all soon

[brookerosebud]

hi howie wowie, glad you got your stems firmer. i'll be waiting for those pics. to tup, if you don't have n e super phosphate, i do.~wink~

take care guys,

love, brooke

[howie66]

Hey guys, This is the most recent pic of my 2 "bigger plants" Enjoy!
PS. Can anybody tell me what strain/breed of plant this might be? A friend of mine wasnt sure, but said they are both definetly female because of the amount of leaves on them. What do you guys think. By the way brooke, i dont have any super phosphate, but wouldnt mind some ;)

[bud breath420]

hey bro looking good.. im gonna have to be a bit of a buzzkill here sorry..

anyway its pretty much impossible to tell what strain they are just from looking at them they could be anything although they look similar to some plants i put outside for this season id post a pic but the fuckers next door took off with them..

your friend was wrong about prenouncing them female just yet..you cant tell if they are female just from the amount of leaves you have to either wait for pre flowers or force flower them to know for sure...

Sorry if i sound like a bit of a bastard.. been tokin since this morning so im kind of out of it right now.. anyway lookin good keep it up..

[brookerosebud]

it is impossible to tell a plant's sex before flower, as ol' dimebag darrel stated, lol bud breath, i saw an article on sexing seeds, but haven't experimented to prove or disprove the info. pretty plants though, doing a great job!

and all jokes aside, super phosphate during flower is A.W.E.S.O.M.E!!!! I LOVE this stuff! (so much better than the miracle gro equivalent) what i have is made by green light, if i'm not mistaken its 5-45-10. great stuff!

good job howie, keep it up!

love, brooke

[bud breath420]

hey man updates? whats going on..? lol brook your one of the few girls i know who can name dimebag without saying.. eww is his beard pink? we need more like you girl..!!

[2MC5]

just cuz me and bud are all the way down in aus dose not mean u cant talk to us lol

[howie66]

Hey all, plants are doing just fine, only got the 2 plants under the HPS, and the other one will be my mother plant, hopefully if shes female. In 3 more weeks im turning them into flower, but il keep you all updated with some fresh pics in the next day or so. Ive been working nightshift, sorry guys, thats why I havent been on much.

[MegaOctane12]

62-65 degrees is just fine, your plants will love it. only reason my temps aren't at 65 is because they leveled at 73 and stayed there, so that was good enough for me.

love, brooke

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but this is wrong. Temperature should stay as consistent as possible night and daytime, a drop in night time temperature to such a degree your describing is not good, it can make nodes stretch so you end up growing more stem than bud, and your overall flavour, potency, aroma, is proven to be at a decreased level with such variable temperature fluctuation. If you grow your plants for the nice pretty flowers that's cool, but I know which option I would take.

[kindprincess]

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but this is wrong. Temperature should stay as consistent as possible night and daytime, a drop in night time temperature to such a degree your describing is not good, it can make nodes stretch so you end up growing more stem than bud, and your overall flavour, potency, aroma, is proven to be at a decreased level with such variable temperature fluctuation. If you grow your plants for the nice pretty flowers that's cool, but I know which option I would take.

i agree. stabilized conditions are always better than outdoor variables; however, plants that are grown/flowered outdoors are more resillient than indoor plants.

therefore, if the plant gets used to a gradual change in temps (such as the natural changing of seasons) you have no probs.

i am NOT saying, though, that you should take and indoor plant, kept at 80 degrees and put it outside. nor am i saying to lower temps to 50-55 in a night.

the on/off temps in my basement are DAY:81f, and NIGHT 58f. no probs, and an unmature sample has gotten me roasted....so not all potency goes away for sure... and the taste is absolutely amazing....

just my 2 pennies....

love, kp

[kindprincess]

ps, stabilized conditions will always prove to have better results than the sporadic tendencies of nature. control variables, better product...