SUPERTHRIVE USES.

[floyd2zapper]

Hi i have just got some superthrive can someone give me advice on the best ways of using it please.do i use it with nutes or plain ph water and at what amounts.Thanks in advance i know some helpfull people will reply.

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[TheGreenFog]

Have you read the instructions on the back side? Not trying to be a smart ass but it's pretty self-explanatory. Personally, I never nute to full 100% with ANYTHING, so I wouldnt go the full strength, but for applications, it should say all on the reverse side. Maybe someone else will be able to help you more. Doing a search also helps. ;) :D:D


Here's one quote from somone else's thread...there are a bunch more out there.


i've left mine in original packaging or baggies etc for months in my dresser drawer and never had any problems. but i always soak mine [seeds] in water with a few drops of superthrive for 24hrs before planting/germination. others may have different experiences as climate,strain,seed quality etc could all be contributors to the outcome of your experience. i wish you the best.

[Cyclonite]

1-2 drops per gallon. Use it with whatever.

[kdspecial]

IO have herd to only Use SuperThrive during the Veg stage. But can't be certin of this. I am going to go and buy some superthrive as well as most people here use it. And I har its name come up on most threads.

kd

[BlueBear]

You know I am going to chime in for you and when it comes to Super Thrive I swear by it even though others swear at it.
Well, I use it when germinating seeds, 1 drop Per Gallon/PG, transplanting, 2 CC/ML PG, Cuttings, 1/2 CC/ML PG, same for misting clones, seedlings and veging plants. Don't use during Flower unless I do a late transplant.
I mix with my normal nutes, or just water and I usually PH all my water down into the low 6's and I grow in soil. Sometimes I will let the clones water be in a high PH of 6.8 or so.
Hope this helps.
Adieu

[roadcam]

SuperThrive is a Vitamin B1 supplement, made from urea (piss) ... it is very good for ONE thing: rooting ... it does do a very good job of building a good root system, that is why it gets the reputation for 'stress relief', etc ... it does NOT influence sexing, as some claim (I have seen posts swearing that soaking a seed in Superthrive water will make it a female - bullshit) ... use it in the first stages of growth, and after a transplant, other than that, don't waste your time ... I have personally seen too much Superthrive KILL a plant, don't overdo it ... I grew very successfully for 40 years before I even heard of the stuff, and I am not very impressed with it ... :smokin:

[TheGreenFog]

"a drop'll do ya"

[floyd2zapper]

Hi all thanks for replying to this thread appreciate it.Thats why this is my fav site so many people kind with there knowledge.


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[kdspecial]

Yeah I enjoy this site as well for the knowledge peaople hae is awsome. BLUE BEAR... Just curious about your Phing the water.

I am still not toally clear about this. If I grow in soil and My Ph is say for example 6.5PH, So the run off water in my soil is 6.5Ph with plain water. No Nuites this is what is is when I ran water though it before putting seed in the soil. Now I have a plant in the soil.

I want to water it correctly with some nutes as it is now for exmaple 4 weeks old) My water is Ph 7 SO if I add some nutes to my water it will bring it down. For example to lets say 5.5 or 6Ph..

SO becasue my water is lower Ph than my soil because I added Nutes. and My tap water is 7PH do I want to bring My water Up in PH to match my soil?

[kdspecial]

Sorry Boss came in the room Had to exit before I finished.

Is the general rule..

Its ok to mix Ph Up/Down with Nutes?
And DO I always want to match the Ph of My water with the Ph of my soil?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thansk Kindly

ks

[roadcam]

I think the issue of knowing your water pH, is simply to know if it's influencing your nutrients ... since your water is neutral pH now, it shouldn't influence your nutes ... personally, after checking my soil pH when starting a grow, I never check it again .. (after harvest, when throwing out the used soil, I check it, and it always seems to be the same as when I started, but I don't go crazy with nutes anyway, I only add them as they're needed ) ... except during flower, I load them up pretty good, but by then, the plant is 'finishing' and pH isnt such an issue ... 'simple is better' in my book ... :smokin:

[kdspecial]

I too Like simple.. but this may help me make it more simple. Less Plant problems less yellow leves etc. and less stress.

I ask cuz I grew in ProMix. Ph7 It worked out ok. But I did have some problems. For example when tested my water runn off in veg stage about 4 weeks into it. I was adding small nutes only 1/4 strength starting at the 4th week if that. at week 5 my soil runoff was at like 5.5Ph

Botanicare Product nutes PURE Grow with every watering. 1/4 Strength watered downb after that.

If my Water was 7Ph out of my tap and My Promix soil was 7Ph to start. It must have been my nutes that were slowly making the soil drop so much in PH Value. I tested my water before I put it into the soil and it was about 5.5Ph So my 1/4 watered down nutes made it drop to 5.5 from 7ph..

Isn't that a Bad thing for the plant. If its soil Ph is 7 before I add any nutes. If I match the water Ph with the soil Ph will this in Theory give me better resuults? and healthier plants?

If so I would like to try this seeing as Im using Coco this grow and I understand Ph levels are usually lower with Coco Coir. I have added Dolomite Lime and the Ph now is 6.8.

I assume since no one has answered now that mixing Ph Up/Down with Nutes in water is safe. and will not harm my plant if mixed correctly.

thanks In Advance for the help guys and Gals///

kd

[BlueBear]

Ok, Ok, Ok. I hope that I can remember everything you are asking. With some soil, or soilless mixtures such as ProMix have PH buffers that hold the PH at a certain level, but after a while of watering at different PH levels and considering that different nutes have different PH buffers as well the PH in a particular soil can change, some do, some don't. The safest and easiest way to deal with this IMO is to try not to worry so much about run off PH, unless you have some plant problems that you can not figure out, but instead, PH your water after you add your nutes, that also answers your question about mixing them, yes you can mix PH Up/Down into your water/nute mix. Always PH after you add the nutes. I think that during the clone stage a higher PH of about 6.8 is more appropriate for the plant and as you get further along in veg towards flower then you can get down to about 6.2/6/3. I have done this every since I have been growing, know others that do it and Zandor said basically the same thing on his grow report about soil PH levels. To avoid salt build ups that would give you a reason to need to monitor the PH runoff, just give your plant a good flush about every 3 to 4 weeks if you are really worried, Salt build ups can depend on the nutes, some nutes are prone to salt build ups and need to be flushed every 3 weeks or so, but in my case I flush once in veg, once right before I switch over to12-12 or right when I start up 12-12 and again right before harvest.
Hear is a big mistake that many people make that makes the plant mis a beat and can affect the life cycles , when switching over to flower some start giving bloom nutes as soon as they change the light cycle. This is not what you want to do, because the plant takes 7 to 10 days to actually make that change from veg to flower and when they are in veg and start getting steady doses of bloom nutes it can make a chink in the chain. Also, when I switch over to 12-12 I do a 24 to 36 hour dark period. May be a hippy tail, but I start seeing sex about a week later and they seem to just swell up and take off when I slap them into flower with the HPS. With some strains I am getting nice bud development by 2 weeks.
Another cheep thing that can help during flower is the use of Molasses, I have an article in the organic growing section on it. It can assist in the break down of certain nutrients in your furts in such a way that it is easier and more efficient for the plant to process them.

Well hope all of this helps some. I am sure I forgot something, but that is the story of my life.
Adieu

[stinkyattic]

. Don't use during Flower unless I do a late transplant.

Agreed!

And ONLY at the time of transplant!

[kdspecial]

Thanks for all the Help Blue Bear and Stinky...

It is really appreciated. This knowledge helps me become a better grower. With all m,y plants.

I will be getting some Ph up/Down today at the pet store. untill I can make it to the grow store to buy the plant designed Ph Up/Down mixes.

Thanks Kindly..

kd_special