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invision
09-12-2006, 03:10 AM
i lost my thread :rolleyes: so ill start a new one considering my 1st thread sucked so anyhow heres the update we are a day shy of week 3 flower i had 2 plants one was male....bummer

so far so good i added some 10-50-10 today at 1/4 strength she is still stretching a bit hopefully ill have enough hieght otherwise im gonna have to build another cab right away but she is under a 150watt HPS and seems to be doing great any comments welcome

yabatab
09-12-2006, 03:36 AM
Looks good man is that 10-50-10 peters brand? I looked for some the
other day and went two places with no luck.

invision
09-12-2006, 03:45 AM
yup sure is they got loads of it at stop and shop

invision
09-12-2006, 02:48 PM
checked on them this morning before work and she took those nutes quite well she was stretching those leaves towards the light looking quite happy cant wait to check on her when lights come on at 10pm :)

invision
09-13-2006, 04:00 AM
some pics from 10min ago she took those nutes very well lots of bud production starting :dance:

the LST made the canopy very even tho i can see the main cola is picking up speed cant wait :smokin:

gulgar10011001
09-13-2006, 02:23 PM
:smokin: :smokin: Good lookin buds!!!!! What kind of lights are ya useing?

invision
09-13-2006, 02:23 PM
150watt hps with heat shield and PC fan tho i think i need a better fan for the future its cold here now but during veg in july was super frigging hot

invision
09-13-2006, 02:42 PM
i just dont get it aside from the 2 people that did post i have recieved no help here since the day i started my plants i dont know what the hell the comminitys problem is here but its rare someone will help out a new grower all this talk about how people who smoke herb are friendly does not apply to this forum.

it seems to me if you are a first grower help here disappears i have seen countless threads go unanswered so i try to help out as much as i know but what can one do when its also thier first time, i have done all the research and everything i have had almost no problems this whole grow from reading and im glad i did or my plants would be dead.

when i had my first problem(yellowing) no one helped or answered me so i had no choice but to figure it out on my own i guess i expected too much from here!

BlueBear
09-14-2006, 02:11 AM
Don't feel bad bro. I have started quite a few threads and have had the same results on this board, but when I hang out on the other board that I am part of I can get responses in minutes allot of the time. I think that one thing is we don't have allot of traffic in hear compared to other boards and many who are still on hear since the sale of the board are first time, or really new growers and it is hard to give advise when you are still trying to figure out the basics.
The reason I don't post on many topics especially the ones with pics is because of my vision. I still do try to help. Just do what you do, research, research and more research. That is I have learned about 90% of what I know, there aint any schools offering classes in this so it is really a form of art, a Gipsy trade.
Well, good luck and maybe look around for another place to hang out with along with this board. I have found that that helps me when I am frustrated about the lack of feedback. Also sometimes we just need to be humble, I may not have an interesting grow or a question someone feels like they want to take the time to answer even though I think that the gang should be knocking down the door to click my pics it just may not be the case.
Adieu

invision
09-14-2006, 02:44 PM
yeah i hear ya at any rate the plants look excellent never thought i would make it this far with no problems really i guess researching so long really paid off i already started buy parts for my new bigger cab yesterday :)

BlueBear
09-14-2006, 05:57 PM
What's the plan for the new cab?
Adieu

invision
09-14-2006, 07:39 PM
im not sure of its size its a old dresser gutted out id guess its about 48H 36W 24D i bought 2x150watt hps lights but with the old cab i can only run one so the other is still new in its box.

i bought a 250Cfm fan yesterday as the 150's are not over all that hot i exhaust my cab now with a simple PC fan so this should work im debating going with cool tubes so the plants can touch the light if they get that big.

home depot has some stuff called reflectix its like mylar except way more dorable and cheaper, i already have both reflectors made actually all i need is a front door the actual building part will take but a few hours to do.

other than that the plan seems to be reasonable i may invest into a 400watt but maybe ill abuse the 150's for a few grows then give them away......

yabatab
09-14-2006, 07:57 PM
Sorry to hear your questions about growing are going unanswered here
Invisoin. Just keep bumping your question post to the top if it isn't
answered after a while Im sure someone will get around to it.

Plus looking up the answers yourself is better because some people
that answer growing questions here are not always right or have no
idea what they are talking about. And going by something that is wrong
could really fuck your grow up. There is also a lot of people here that
give out great advice you just have to find out who those are.

Your grow looks great maybe people didnt think you needed help :D

invision
09-14-2006, 10:39 PM
hey thanks it means alot and i researched growing for a year before i gave it a shot i read everything most of all peoples problems cause those were going to be my problems and im glad i did so many hours of reading.

hell maybe your right maybe i dont need help but i wanted to share my excitement with others as i cant share this with anyone i know :(
anyways my basement smells awsome :dance:

lights on at 10pm take a few pics for everyone gave her a nice watering last night and checked her a 6:30am and was full of life :thumbsup:

Pass That Shit
09-15-2006, 03:27 AM
I looked at your thread a few times. Your post has more views than most threads on this page. I didn't see a need to post cause your plants look AWESOME and you did not ask any questions. I have a thread going called "white widow pic". Go take a look at it, and tell me what you think. Don't worry about us waving our palm palms at you. If your plants were having a problem, I'm sure we would come through for you. For your first grow, you seem to be doing a great job :thumbsup:

As long as your smoke is good, than be thankful for this site cause it's probably where you got most of your info. If you knock people on here, they won't want to help you later. Reading is best cause most all the answers you may need are already on this site. Keep putting up those pics and bumping up the thread and we'll see how you're doing. Great Job :stoned:

postmandave
09-15-2006, 01:21 PM
invision i get what you are saying here mate i try my best to answer what questoins i can but blue bear had already got there .i can only get on every now and again but as yabatab said you seem to be doing fine for a new grower well done mate. and i will certainly be looking in incase i can help out with something.be safe the postman.

give us a heads up on what you are planning for you new cab.

invision
09-15-2006, 02:34 PM
actually passthat i learned it all on overgrow when i started growing however OG was gone :( but anyways i wouldnt knock this site it has great info but seems if your not in the click your on your own which is ok i learned alot faster that way as of last night she is getting huge i was too tired for pics but will get some here by tonight after 10pm.

dont get me wrong im not pissed at anyone here otherwise i wouldnt try and help the newbs cmon guys help out those newbs they are the future of growing :)

postmandave
09-15-2006, 03:11 PM
Dont know what has happened on this site lately. it never used to be like that . it used to be a fight to help new growers out . i have been around this site for a while as i change my name every 6 months and this is my 5th name i think. everyone knows my others. i think cause i announced them at the time of changing (its a paranioa thing lol) but anyway we used to have threads with like 300 posts and stuff they are very far and few between but that doesnt seem to happen anymore .when a new grower comes on and asks for help he gets told to read first . it used to be that his questoins were andswers and after he was advised to read the faqs then come back with his questoins but now its just a straight out .TRY READING. maybe it is the more experianced growers just get fed up answering the same questoins.i cant remember how many times i have answered the same questoins over and over again but thats what its all about passing on what you have learned to help new growers imo anyway ive moaned enought lol.the postman.

Pass That Shit
09-15-2006, 08:09 PM
"actually passthat i learned it all on overgrow when i started growing however OG was gone"

Like I said, you probably learned alot from people that post on this site. I came from overgrow as well, so what I'm saying is that alot of people on this site posted info on the overgrow site that you learned from. If you don't get your questions answered, keep reading up and keep asking the questions and you'll be ok. I just painted half my grow room with flat white paint last night and will do the other half tonight. I have the opportunity to grow much more than I am cause of the size of the room. I'm trying to make it completely stealth. I want to be able to grow even when I have guests staying at my house which I will soon have again. My guests usually stay for a couple of weeks so it makes it hard, but I'm working on it. I get it to where it needs to be, all I need to stop in and water every couple of days. Peace

invision
09-15-2006, 09:09 PM
couple weeks hell with that id kick'em out alot sooner but doing a whole room is going to be hard man id be curious whats behind the door but good luck with that.

i dont mind researching myself i do this everyday at work and when i come home cause if i didnt they would die, im sharing my grow with everone i dont really think i need help at this point so far growing herb has been a very nice experience and very easy to me this is now my new enjoyment.

the new cab may go into effect soon so i can get 2x150 watt HPS on the single plant to increase her yeild i need a door......hmmmmm

Stylus
09-15-2006, 11:35 PM
i agree with u 1000x times invision. growing herb is my pride and joy now. i actually just started reading about it 2 months ago. i started my grow 1 month after. u could say i rushed into it, but i crammed as much info as i could b4 i started my grow. i get frustrated to when my thread goes un answered but its the way things go. ill def be givin this thread some of my time. keep at it man ur plants look great! and ur new cab will be so much fun just wait and see =]. i actually get excited for ppl when i hear there gonna build new things to grow in. anways gl and good work. stop by my thread one day if ya get a chance and see how much beter ur first grow is going compared to mine. itll make ya smile =]. <3 u all
stylus

Stylus
09-15-2006, 11:36 PM
ps, my gf actually is jealous of my plants lol! i show them more attention then her now =]<3 u all
stylus

invision
09-16-2006, 04:46 AM
well here she is as of now just watered her with calmag plus nothing else added i always use this stuff its great cant lose using it i think she is almost done with her stretching now she will hopefully fill in she hasnt grown much in a few days maybe 3inches hope the cola gains in size.:thumbsup:

doco
09-16-2006, 06:43 AM
it will fill in...you still have at least another month of flowering right? They'll get fat as your wrist I hope. Looks like you did a nice job with the lst too. Can't wait to see it progress over the next few weeks.:thumbsup:

invision
09-17-2006, 03:12 AM
she looks awsome tonight the main cola looks amazing so i had to take a few shots for everyone :stoned:

the 1st pic is the main cola and the 2nd is under her leaves it looks really cool :dance:

notorious P.O.T
09-18-2006, 08:48 PM
wow invision thats one healthy looking female.. so u didnt top that at all.. if not.. thats a great lst job..and i feel you about doing all the research.. i read for atleast 6 months before dropping my first bean... and even then it was only some bagseed..now that i got that one outta the way i started with some real beans.. btw What strain is that? nice trichs fillin in there..

invision
09-18-2006, 10:46 PM
bagseed:p not investing into any seeds until i feel i can do this easily everytime so far besides she looks a little unhappy last night but this wasnt as hard as expected :thumbsup:

i need to build my new cab quick i was thinking of finishing her under 300watts of HPS to get her really filled in i dont know yet money is kinda tight :mad:

yup that was LST'ed it was really fun too shaping her i loved it :dance:

notorious P.O.T
09-19-2006, 12:51 AM
lol wow good job..yeah a 300 would be nice .. but u will get decent results with the 150.. especially since you are keeping it nice and close.... on my first grow i pulled like a half O from one plant using just 2 cfl's lol i think ull have much better luck with a 150

invision
09-19-2006, 02:30 AM
well thing is i already have another 150 complete just no room for it bummer oh well and damn does she look good tonight the smell of her drives me crazy i need to smoke some and thank god im not dry :dance:

elway07
09-19-2006, 04:42 PM
Wow! Looking good.... I am beginning week three of flowering and getting impatient.....LOL Looks good

elway07
09-19-2006, 04:47 PM
I am curious as to what you yield from that keep us posted.. First time grower here as well.... I made the mistake of not lst'ing my plant and she is already almost 3.5' tall. I am using 400 hps and some cfls underneath....she is doing great but getting big. I have a big closet but...damn..
congrats damn good grow

invision
09-21-2006, 02:54 AM
some more pics for everyone shes doing great really starting to fill in now 29 days to go cant wait :dance:

doco
09-21-2006, 09:57 PM
nice - starting to look pretty frosty too! How's the smell?

invision
09-22-2006, 01:13 AM
she stinks man, like stinks so bad in a good way though i bumped into the top bud by accident and she released this awsome piney pungent oder it was amazing just have to be more careful in the future :)

notorious P.O.T
09-22-2006, 01:35 AM
lol i know exactly what smell your talking about.. my first grow with bagseed smelled like that.. and now i got the ice which isnt smelling as potent as i thought it would nor as pungent as the bagseed plant...

invision
09-22-2006, 01:50 AM
trust me i wish she didnt smell so bad somedays but she had my back yesterday as the gas company came by to relight the hotwater heater pilot i was freaking what to do and decided fuck it worst case senerio ill act like i just smoked up so he came and the basement didnt smell like a damn thing :confused:

i was like wow plants got my back now if popo shows up and she hides herself for me im marrying her but i shit you not later that night my friend came by and went jesus how much pot did you smoke tonight it wreaks lol :thumbsup:

UMrocksmysocks
09-23-2006, 07:56 PM
hey man, first time lookin at this thread.... got a couple q's

how long did you veg to train your plant, and how many days into flower are you..?

invision
09-24-2006, 06:43 PM
i vegged her for a month and started training her at 2 weeks every 2 days or so i would tie down the main cola even with the grow shoots then 1 week before and 1 week into flower i trained all the branches outward then cut all ties at week 3 :D

i havent seen her in 2 days i was camping relaxing away from this life its awesome there but ill see how she is doing at 10pm lights on im cossing my fingers i fed her before i left hopefully i dont see no burns or anything else bad

invision
09-24-2006, 06:50 PM
forgot to add she is at 34 days flower

invision
09-25-2006, 03:14 AM
here she is havent seen her in 2 nights she looks great took that feeding no problem think i my move up to 1/3 strength next watering seems she can take it no signs of burn ive also noticed 2 more bud sites coming up to join the crew so i have 14 bud sites and the main cola :dance:

mcmikee420
09-25-2006, 03:29 AM
Hey invision Ive been reading this site for a few weeks and your thread about three times so far just studying every step you have taken in flowering. I am impressed/jealous of your first grow your doing an amazing job!! I cant beleive the size of the buds your plant is putting out with your setup. I am wondering about how you got to this point...your thread starts already in the flowering room. My setup looks no where near as nice as yours. My veg box is filled with odd colored plants that dont seem to do what I want them to (get huge!!) If you could be so kind as to give me a general description of your vegging process and how you got that beautiful plant to show up with 14 bud sites It would really help me out. I am afraid to LST my plants as I am scared Ill screw it up and ruin a plant, Any suggestions on the best way to do this? Thanks for the awesome thread and keep up the good work!!!!

Mike

invision
09-25-2006, 03:45 AM
i actually have my whole grow on my PC starting with 2 plants ill upload some.

i had a thread here when i was in veg not a single person offered me help here so i read other people problems what they look like and what they did to treat them when i got a problem i already knew what to do plus i have this chart that shows all known problems by leaf this alone is a must for every single grower on the planet id print this bitch out and hang it on street poles if i could.

heres a few random shots, i have over 150 pics from 2 weeks old to now

http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/97.htm

mcmikee420
09-25-2006, 03:53 AM
Thanks for the quick reply its nice when I see others like yourself more than willing to help another fellow first time grower. I too am having a problem where my threads are not being replied to at all. Passthatshit was nice enough to put a post on my thread and I have noticed a certain few other users on this site are real good about helping us noobies out. The pics you put up are a great help, sometime if you dont mind check out my thread of my grow so far and please give any suggestions/critisism that you can. Again man thanks for the help its really appreciated. http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=83478

mcmikee420
09-25-2006, 03:54 AM
ps.. any shots of your LST process would be helpful since I think Im going to take a shot at it pretty soon.

TheGreenFog
09-25-2006, 05:28 AM
Your plants look very good to me, Invision. I have been reading a lot of threads on this forum for a couple months before I started posting and I've noticed a change in the posts recently too. I'm curious to know what caused that. Weird. Anyway, VNP...very nice plants! :D


TGFog

invision
09-26-2006, 04:11 AM
ok guys i need advice.........

no pics im tired as hell so here we go...............

friday i watered her with 1/4 mix of 10-50-10 now this is friday at 6:30am so i water her and leave for work she looks great........

ok so i leave to go out for the weekend camping so i wont be back till sunday my pot litterly dry bare in 2 days so i have to keep up with watering often so i figured plenty of time so i get home at 9:30pm sunday and check on her and i opened the door she was badly drooping and the pots were light as a feather(this is how i judge to water works awesome).

so i dint bother to mention it i knew she needed water and the pics above are 1hr after water you wouldnt know it happened i then noticed a slight yellow tinge in the leaves i figured it was probly this so i let it go, now tonight i open the door and she is a lot yellow id say 50/50.

i tested my PH my meter said it was 7 i didnt trust it so i got my tab ph tester back ups and test the run off(never did this otherwise)and it was yellow meaning below 6.8 so my guess is more like 6.0 this has to be it she looks like she lacks P but i just fed her and i dont think its burn her green up top is fine and her buds are great looking.

at the moment i flushed her with my tap water as i used distilled with calmag plus my tap water is 7.5 according to the tabs hoping to atleast bring her back to 6.8 range so other than what i have done what else can i do i have PH up but figured the tap will help it just as well?

invision
09-26-2006, 04:23 AM
ok id feel like a bad plant owner if i didnt provide pics, fucking guilty conscience!

invision
09-26-2006, 04:25 AM
and not to mention the huge fan leave the fell off.....im a dick.....and very high right now:stoned:

you know its funny when its not my plant i could tell you how to fix it no problem

Ginnas
09-26-2006, 04:36 AM
Those plants look fantastic, keep up the good work.

invision
09-26-2006, 02:20 PM
dont all rush in at once now!

rhino44
09-26-2006, 03:00 PM
hey i just browsed through this thread pretty quickly. what strain is this again?

mike024
09-26-2006, 03:27 PM
Hey Invision the plants are looking mighty nice bro. You said one of the fans leaves fell off? Did it fall off or did it get pulled off? Im only asking cuz If it just fell off...Ur not a dick its just your plant saying "haha fuck you". If it accidently got pulled off then you are a dick and your a terrible plant owner. LOL just kidding ha. You were nice enough to reply to my thread the other day I really appreciate that. I went out and got a great deal on a digi cam so Ill be putting pics up on my grow today sometime. http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=83478 I look forward to any feedback once I get some decent pics up there, either on my room setup or the plants themselves. Thanks again

TheGreenFog
09-26-2006, 05:20 PM
Hey, Invision. Plants are coming along nicely. Hope you get your little issues worked out. seems your pH is a bit high. I'm sure you will fix it. You've gotten this far, right? :) Keep us posted. Go grow! And I'm sure you're not a dick...well, maybe you are. LOL j/k

Check out my thread: JOURNAL OF A MADMAN ;)

TGF

:rasta:

invision
09-27-2006, 02:39 PM
seems she is only getting worse i tried watering her with a higher dose of PH'ed water but the run off is still low i have exactly 3 weeks left i may just chop her after the weekend which i guess wouldnt be so bad considering she has grown and budded quite a bit (maybe a once worth of herb) so im not too bummed.

i know one thing dont buy cheap PH readers my grow would have been flawless otherwise i atleast know i can grow herb without a problem so stay away from Rapitest meters they are shit, im going to concentrate on my new cab after this and get a 4-6 plant setup going and buy a real PH meter for 100.00 or so.

well thanks for the support here i had fun doing it ill still update until she is completely chopped and dried wish my equipment didnt let me down but atleast it wasnt my mistakes that took her this route.

invision
09-27-2006, 02:40 PM
hey i just browsed through this thread pretty quickly. what strain is this again?

the strain is called Invision Bag Seed :thumbsup:

if anyone would be so kind to point me to a good PH meter not too expensive id appreciate it im not to keen on this area of equipment

mike024
09-27-2006, 02:56 PM
Hey Invision I dont know if your looking for something a lil more sophisticated but Ive used these testers on my pool and hot tub they always seem to be dead on. check out this link http://cgi.ebay.com/New-pH-Meter-Aquarium-Swimming-Pool-Water-Tester-PH-9_W0QQitemZ150036583004QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3212QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem you may also want to check out a pool supply store in your area rather than a grow supply store keep us updated and good luck to ya!!!

doco
09-27-2006, 04:29 PM
Sorry to hear that they seem to have gone south on you Invision...but it's still possible it's not over...I have seen a number of grows where many of the main leaves yellowed or fell off towards the end. Survival is a number one instinct and it will do what ever actions she needs in order to live. Her only purpose in life right now is to try and pollenate and propogate and she is putting every remaining drop of energy into it, even if it means dropping her other leaves. In essense, she is sacrificing herself so that you'll have better buds so don't give up on her!!

mike024
09-27-2006, 08:31 PM
Doco has a great point invision your plant has come too far to just give up on it. Shit mine started outside with no nutes and natural causes started flowering about two weeks before I even put them under a hps light. Plus nobody likes a quitter!!lol just kidding keep your head up!!!

budnums
09-27-2006, 09:59 PM
I feel you on the ph. I need to find a good one myself Invision. Let me know if you find one, I will do the same. Are you using organic food? What brand of nutrients are you using?

invision
09-28-2006, 12:39 AM
who said i was giving up......

im growing until all those leaves fall off or she recovers just 20 days to go id be a bitch if i let all that work go down the drain, im not really bummed i know where i went wrong so that will NEVER happen again.

Budnums- i used organic during veg and non-organic during flower dont know why i just did they both worked great, the veg nute was 12-0-0 dont remember who made it and the flower was 10-50-10 by peters and this stuff rocks.

on the brighter side of things my GF made me go by new material for the bigger cab so that cheered me up i love her, ill start building it this weekend and it may even be done saturday night an then start all over with 300watts hps.....wish i knew where to get clones :question:

ill take pics tonight anyhow even if she isnt looking pretty her buds smell and look great my whole house stinks you can smell it the moment you walk in :dance:

invision
09-28-2006, 02:49 AM
i think she actually may make atleast another week keep those fingers crossed ;)

mike024
09-28-2006, 03:30 AM
Hot damn that is one beeeeaaauuuuutiful plant man I hope the ones I lst'd will turn out as many bud sites. Glad to hear your not bitchin' out bro. I bet if you just gave that bad boy a good flush you'd be back in business. I just picked up a book called "The Cannibis Grow Bible" and OMG is it filled with information. I went through about 200 pages in a couple hours like it was nuthin. Hey man things could be worse, you could have fn spidermites on your plants eating up every bit of livelyhood your plants possess. Sorry I feel better now. Hope to hear from ya soon!!

invision
09-28-2006, 03:55 AM
you know now that im high and i really looked at her it made me smile, that is one sexy plant and thanks for the support this is too much fun i got some reflectix from homedepot a big ol 25foot roll stuff is like mylar but 100x more durable it wont rip is you pull it.

new cab in the works baby maybe a 400watt hps in the future too who knows maybe ill be the guy on the news busted for 50,000watt grow:thumbsup:

i have that book but havent read it in a while but i did read it about 4 times :dance:

Markass
09-28-2006, 04:26 AM
Wow, looking very wonderful :)

doco
09-28-2006, 04:36 AM
Invision: Do you have that "chart that shows all known problems by leaf " that you mentioned in an earlier post? Is it something you can post here?

Your plant is doing great...looks like it's making a full comeback. I'm sure she's gonna live as long as you need her too and give you lots of frosty stank buds. How much longer now, couple weeks you figure?

invision
09-28-2006, 02:31 PM
here the link Doco

http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/97.htm

she has 19 days to go 10 at the earliest im going to try my hardest to bring her to full term i need to buy a microscope soon to check out her trichromes they may already started to turn ill find out soon enough

greenmonster
09-28-2006, 03:02 PM
is it not the plant sucking the last 'N' out of the leaves as it gets towards the end of its life cycle?
that usually starts at the bottom of the plant too. they look fine.... woory about the buds not the fan leaves

doco
09-28-2006, 04:28 PM
Wow, what a great chart to have for a reference, thanks!

Ya, Greenmonster, I was thinking along those lines too, but I based that on things I've read, not actual experience so I didn't want to venture a guess and possibly mess someone's grow up. The fact that it happened pretty suddenly after a period of going bone dry makes me wonder about other problems. It looks fine to me though, I think it's gonna be a fantastic harvest.

Pass That Shit
09-28-2006, 04:46 PM
is it not the plant sucking the last 'N' out of the leaves as it gets towards the end of its life cycle?
that usually starts at the bottom of the plant too. they look fine.... woory about the buds not the fan leaves

I agree. I was wondering why Invision was saying that they won't make it to the end? If anything, you have plenty of foliage with only a couple of weeks to go. Good Job and enjoy those buds :thumbsup:

You will end up clipping most of those leaves off anyway so don't sweat it. Start focusing on when your plants are ready to harvest.

invision
09-28-2006, 08:11 PM
yeah you guys are right ill shut the hell up now and continue my journey:thumbsup:

yabatab
09-28-2006, 11:08 PM
Dont stress INV she does not look that bad my friend what happend by the way was it a nute burn? She'll be just fine cause I say so LOL :D

yabatab
09-28-2006, 11:10 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to ask did you use that peters at full strenght from
the start of flowering?

yabatab
09-28-2006, 11:15 PM
Damn 5 minute thingy.... ok I saw you used it a 1/4 strength. You might
want to try some gypsum or crushed egg shells soaked in warm
water over night. It adds calcium and helps brake down shit that
builds up in the soil that can hinder plant growth.

budnums
09-29-2006, 12:03 AM
Yo Invision. I've been trying to find some Peter's 10-50-10 but no luck. I have 20-20-20. Is that no good? I am vegging my plants right now and unsure about what nutes to use. Thank God I am getting a book tonight. Also, are you still using one hps 150w? Did you veg and flower with the same light? Right now I am using a hps 150w, but I am worried that it isn't going to provide any blue light for the plants, so I put a couple bluer flourescents to compensate.

I read that vegging with an HPS will make the plants tall and less bushy. What do you think(anyone think)? Please shed some light somebody!

invision
09-29-2006, 12:23 AM
i used the same bulb the whole grow i didnt have the stretch issue some people do have guess i was lucky and the 20-20-20 is good for veg but you want higher P in flower.

yabatab- i use calmag plus with every watering so i think that should cover the calcium plus the nutes have micro's in them too, i believe its the PH she needs water tonight so ill add some extra calmag plus to be sure and add some slightly high PH'ed water

yabatab
09-29-2006, 01:20 AM
Oh yeah INV I found some peters 10-50-10 at the fucking dollar store
of all places LOL they also had some sholtz liquid 10-50-10 both were
on sell for $1.50 LOL. I picked up both for my next grow. I have not tried
the sholtz before so I'll give it a try on one of my plants during flowering
on my next grow and see if there is any difference.

Have you been adding epsom salt for mag and sulf INV?

invision
09-29-2006, 01:24 AM
nope no mag problems the leaves curl upward if there is one had one a long time ago but havent seen it since i used calmag plus, damn a 1.50 for the nutes id use them id use the liquid first to see how it does.

yabatab
09-29-2006, 01:40 AM
Dude check your general dollar store they might have those where you
are too. The store is called Freds here but its a spin off of the dollar
store im pretty sure. I guess I am still a dinosaur grower I have been
using the same nutes for around 11 years now LOL.

invision
09-30-2006, 04:46 AM
gave her some nutes and PH'ed water last night no change in leaves so thats a good thing she is not getting worse....i hope.

so anyways not else much to say but give you some pics :dance:

Ginnas
09-30-2006, 07:18 AM
Sick dude. Very nice for a first grow.

budnums
09-30-2006, 11:45 PM
Holy shit. That is beautiful bro. Congrats and enjoy. It's my first grow too, but yours kicks my ass. I'm using an HPS 150w too. Do you have written up plans for that grow box of yours? If not, does anybody have plans that they could hook me up with? Thanks!

invision
10-01-2006, 04:33 AM
new grow box is almost done and she smells awsome cant wait to smoke her, heres a side by side of the cabs i need to finish puting together the exhaust and intake which is why the lower left is still bare.

invision
10-01-2006, 06:05 PM
kinda stumped on the intake should i use the PC fan i have or cut out a passive intake and place a 6" fan in front of the cover or use the PC fan instead?

yabatab
10-01-2006, 07:59 PM
Home depot has a Broan 110 CFM Ventilation Fan for 50 bucks Inv you
might want to upgrade because that box looks much larger than the
other one.

And the plant looks absolutely great for a first grow. Are you sure this
is your first grow? LOL :thumbsup:

invision
10-01-2006, 08:45 PM
yeah it is i swear LOL

i payed upmost attention to the boards and what people have experienced through the grow cycle it seems if you keep yourself in check and dont go crazy your plants will survive

invision
10-02-2006, 02:24 AM
just about 2 weeks left i cant believe im almost there it felt forever somedays now im in the home stretch :dance:

its finally dry here i havent ran out of weed in over 2 years i always had some this is going to make a special treat for me and the GF cant wait so someone toke up for me :rasta:

CLOSET KING
10-02-2006, 02:50 AM
I'M 20 DAYS INTO FLOWER 12 PLANTS IM HAPPY

CLOSET KING
10-02-2006, 02:53 AM
[quote=invision]just about 2 weeks left i cant believe im almost there it felt forever somedays now im in the home stretch :dance:

its finally dry here i havent ran out of weed in over 2 years i always had some this is going to make a special treat for me and the GF cant wait so someone toke up for me :rasta:

invision
10-02-2006, 02:58 AM
jesus i think your the one who smoked for me what the hell is all this?

Pass That Shit
10-02-2006, 03:31 AM
Those colas are looking mighty good. The icing on the cake :)

Horsefeathers
10-02-2006, 05:35 AM
yabatab- i use calmag plus with every watering so i think that should cover the calcium plus the nutes have micro's in them too

Are you using the Calmag Plus that is a sold as a supplement for human consumption? I was wondering if I could buy calcium pills from Wal-Mart pharmacy and feed them to the plants.

invision
10-02-2006, 02:20 PM
Horse- no i got the calmag plus from a hydro shop online for 16.99 the stuff works miracles i tell you i cant believe how good this stuff is to plants its like a mulitvitamin for them.

T®auma
10-02-2006, 02:23 PM
Looking good my man.

invision
10-02-2006, 02:28 PM
thanks man 2 freaking weeks left oh man im excited its dry here too big time looks like someone will have bud to smoke in about another month or so :dance:

youngcity
10-02-2006, 09:07 PM
Beautiful looking plants vision :thumbsup:

Just had a question, i was reading the first page of your thread and noticed u said u had a heat shield for ur light. Did u by that or build it yourself. I have a 400 watt metal halide but was forced to use cfl because of heat issues. if u made it could you help me out to make my own. thanks

invision
10-02-2006, 10:09 PM
its a simple piece of glass i used a glass cutter($2.99) and you score it once where you want it to break and it breaks off easily and clean.

i dont know how effective it would be with 400watts i guess you couldnt lose by trying it is real easy to do.

invision
10-03-2006, 03:50 AM
not much of a update just a pic of her in the cab :thumbsup:

TheGreenFog
10-03-2006, 05:22 AM
Love your buds, mang. Also, love the way you trained them plants...err...THAT one plant. SWEET.

bumpity. Nice first grow brah. Hope mine look half as good.

TGF

BenjaminSeth
10-03-2006, 12:52 PM
Much props on the props.

invision
10-03-2006, 02:23 PM
its so easy to train them like that too didnt take any effort at all just tie the main cola 2" below the rest of the canopy and within 1-2 days she back up over the canopy again and repeat while going in a small circle thanks guys this means alot :thumbsup:

invision
10-05-2006, 02:46 AM
13 days remaining :dance:

notorious P.O.T
10-05-2006, 02:55 AM
lol thats cool.. were prolly gonna harvest at around the same time... btw what strain is that? cuz it sure is crystally...

invision
10-05-2006, 02:56 AM
invision bag seed special ill send ya some if you want LOL

notorious P.O.T
10-05-2006, 02:58 AM
haha.. thats kewl...

invision
10-05-2006, 03:08 AM
its funny too i cant remeber how good the smoke was from these seeds but must have been good cause i did save them for some reason.....oh well ill find out soon enough

gum.
10-05-2006, 06:38 PM
Hi, good job :thumbsup: yours plants are unbelievable:clap: . Keep going

faithlessxxx
10-05-2006, 06:56 PM
.

Mmm, nice stuff, you did the plexiglas thing like me too - our rooms are quite similiar and I'm hoping our plants will be too.
Mine at 3 weeks doesn't look too different from yours, I think, or maybe I'm flattering myself:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/faithless01/Bild128.jpg

Hope you get a delicious smoke and tell me how you manage with temps with your 400HPS. I bought one of those once, but never overcame the heat and gave up - this time I'm having a lot more success with a 250HPS.

Keep it up, man!

:pimp:

GreenShamen
10-05-2006, 08:04 PM
great work invision keep up the good work!

invision
10-06-2006, 05:11 PM
do you think i could chop off some of the excess leaves to get the bud sites better direct light?

invision
10-08-2006, 03:24 AM
ok the new cab is complete took me 4hrs to finish it both 150watt hps are in, lined with reflectix, passive intake with 6in fan in front of the hole, 250CFM inline exhaust with 4" reducer.

tell me what you think and here she is inside it :)

doco
10-08-2006, 03:55 AM
Looks awesome Invision...lot bigger than the other cab. How's the heat in it with those two lamps on? Your girl is looking delicious. :thumbsup:

invision
10-08-2006, 07:52 PM
i dont have a temp gauge yet but when i open her up it doesnt seem to warm in there and the cab is alot more quiet than the smaller one i like that i may however invest into a better exhaust fan in the future to really get things down to ambient temps and the summers here are mega hot so i have time to plan for that.

i still need to get her a bit more light tight but she will be done next weekend so its good enough for now its in the basement so no one will disturb her for now :)

faithlessxxx- its 2x 150watt hps i was thinking a 400 but no way the 150's give off enough heat as it is and i think ill get better coverage with the 150's tho the 250 would give me a better penetration to the canopy we'll see what happens.

i was thinking of removing the ignitor's and using 150watt MH bulbs for veg do these bulbs give off more heat then the HPS as i think i would need too many CFL's for veg of 6 plants with the hopes of 3 females

invision
10-09-2006, 03:15 AM
guess she liked the new cab looked awesome tonight her main cola looks great :dance:

ill give her about another week then she gets chopped :rasta:

invision
10-09-2006, 04:09 PM
giving myself a bump

budnums
10-09-2006, 07:02 PM
hey invision. how long did you veg. that beauty before flowering?

invision
10-09-2006, 07:56 PM
hey invision. how long did you veg. that beauty before flowering?

vegged her just over a month before flower maybe 5 weeks including her seedling stage

budnums
10-09-2006, 09:01 PM
right on. do you remember how tall she was when you started to flower?

invision
10-09-2006, 09:14 PM
hmmm thats a real tough one considered she was LST'ed my guess is about 10in she was maybe 6-7in tied down she is now about 18-19inches hmmmm when i get home ill have to actually measure the whole stock for you now im curious

invision
10-10-2006, 03:38 AM
the new cab is definitely working out after this grow im going to fully patch her up light tight order some seeds and do it again i also curved the lights a bit towards each other this helped greatly :)

howsyourroof
10-10-2006, 04:32 AM
nice pics hows that glass work out for you

Good_Vibrations
10-10-2006, 08:26 AM
Invision.

Hey brah I cant help ya out any with advice (wish I could) I just started researching about a month ago. I have been on this site every nite for the past month just reading peoples threads and learning as much as I can. It seems this is how you learned as well.

I feel your pain when it comes to unanswered threads, however the people that do respond I have much respect for doing so. I still have so many questions and haven't even started. Thats a beautiful girl, you must be proud, I would be its the first time and its a success.

Peace.
G_V

*Anything I post on this site is purely hypothetical, I do not grow anything illegal, nor do I condone any such actions.*

invision
10-10-2006, 02:23 PM
nice pics hows that glass work out for you

glass piece was in the older cab worked wonders kept the heat out of the plant area i would recommend this to anyone who has heat problems in smaller spaces

invision
10-10-2006, 02:25 PM
Good_Vibrations- to me the veg cycle was the hardest part basicly keeping up with the plant as she grows making sure she is happy and not under or over fed nutes and water, flowering was easy i mean easy i almost did nothing but give her what she wanted and left her be......cant ask easier than that :)

TheGreenFog
10-10-2006, 03:54 PM
..., flowering was easy i mean easy i almost did nothing but give her what she wanted and left her be......cant ask easier than that :)

Hope its really that easy! :thumbsup:

TGF

Good_Vibrations
10-10-2006, 05:48 PM
Invision.

Righteous man, well congrats it is well deserved. Maybe you can answer a question for me. When cloning how long should it be veged and how quick can you flower them? I would imagine once they have developed roots they can be flowered, you would just loses some of its potential potency and yeild?

Also when using seed, how long should it be vegging? A buddy has had his hit a stunt in growth and just now got to fix the problem and is starting to show signs of health and development. However it as been at least a month since it sprouted and it looks like some peoples in the first 2 weeks.

Stay Gnarly.
G_V

*Anything I post on this site is purely hypothetical, I do not grow anything illegal, nor do I condone any such actions/*

invision
10-10-2006, 07:33 PM
never had clones myself but i do know once the roots system is underway veg for a week then flower plant still gets 2-3 feet tall.

using seeds depends most growers veg for 2 months not including seedling stage i vegged for a month due to space in the other cab the one i use now i can veg her longer meaning bigger buds :)

if i was your friend i would start over and follow the FAQ and read some books about it, it took me over a years research before i grew anything and i guess it payed off

tomknox
10-10-2006, 08:30 PM
it doesnt look like you need any help at all, that plant looks great, keep up the good work!!

invision
10-11-2006, 02:22 PM
plant is now 100% yellow i believe she is done she will be 8weeks flower monday think im going to chop her down before i leave for the weekend if i do ill post up some pics of harvest and let everyone know the end dry wieght thanks growing with me it was a fun almost 4 month adventure :)

greenmonster
10-11-2006, 02:43 PM
nice plants...
are you sure they are ready? they look like they still have some life left in them to me...
good job though

invision
10-11-2006, 02:48 PM
i dont really think i have a choice she ran out of water somehow yesterday and was wilting pretty bad i watered her and she perked back up but her leaves look like shit i looked with my 10X but you really cant tell the trichrome colors but i dont see amber they are what looks to be cloudy i guess ill see what shape she is in tonight and use the 20X i have a work here i myself would let her go another week but i dont think she is up for it no worries i made it this far right!

greenmonster
10-11-2006, 02:52 PM
ah u do have a microscope, cool. I was just looking at how few of ur stigmas had withered in the pics. It didnt look like many so i just thought u would get more growth from the buds and a bigger yield if u left it but watch them trichs!

invision
10-11-2006, 07:28 PM
cmon now what kind of grower doesnt have all his equipment ready to rock n roll.......:dance:

greenmonster
10-11-2006, 08:46 PM
i need a microscope, lol...

invision
10-12-2006, 12:18 AM
i need a microscope, lol...

bad grower no bud for you :cursing:

invision
10-12-2006, 03:09 AM
ok i am chopping her tommorow i couldnt see all the trics good but i did notice some amber ones plus she lost about 60% of her leaves in the past 2 days, so i trimmed her up made her look pretty again and here she is her last day in flower :dance:

doco
10-12-2006, 03:26 AM
Congrats Invision, you've done a great first grow. It looks fantastic and it's been both a lot of fun and educational to stop by this thread and watch it come along. Thanks for sharing it with us! Keep us up to date about yields when youre not too high. :p

TheGreenFog
10-12-2006, 03:38 AM
Brilliant!

invision
10-12-2006, 03:05 PM
at work and cant wait to chop her down its all i can think about, work production has decreased today my mind is on other matters lol thanks everyone

MrMR
10-12-2006, 04:43 PM
Hey whats on your walls man??

MrMR
10-12-2006, 04:45 PM
I mean in the first pic in this theard whats on those walls? what type of material is it and where can you get it?

jamstigator
10-12-2006, 04:45 PM
Hope you have a good harvest! Smoke a bowl for all of us! ;)

invision
10-12-2006, 07:34 PM
I mean in the first pic in this theard whats on those walls? what type of material is it and where can you get it?

i dont really fully understand the 1st pic on page 1 or this page??

either way the small cab i used Mylar this cab i used Reflectix both are great but i like the Reflectix better :thumbsup:

any hydro store carries mylar and homedepot has the reflectix

MrMR
10-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Okay thanks thats what i meant cool thanks How much for each???

invision
10-12-2006, 11:54 PM
20.00 for mylar 25.00 for reflectix both were 25foot rolls

oturbojoeo4o
10-14-2006, 01:39 AM
ill take all your old shit ur not using

TheBudBuster
10-14-2006, 03:16 PM
lovly stuff brutha

Peace
TBB

pastor420
10-14-2006, 04:28 PM
Nice job, on both the grow and the cab.:thumbsup:

invision
10-17-2006, 03:21 AM
im not gonna lie i have no pics but i did sneak some lower budsites and i must say i grew my damn fine herb its not even fully dry or cured and im fucking baked i cant wait until shes done no more samples she is gonna rock!

by looking alone i would say ounce and a half its fluffy but damn its potent thanks again for sharing ill get some pics up in a bit i just had to share :rasta:

invision
10-17-2006, 03:41 AM
pics are in........:dance:

HighSeekerz
10-17-2006, 05:13 AM
The plants look awesome to me. I wish I had the space to do more than I am... What strain is it that you are growing and if bagseed, what kind of high? I am growing bag seed (thread is My Grow Pics. Your Harsh Opinions!) in Hydroponics. I am way behind you and think your plants look great. How many plants are in each bucket as it look like several tops... And if just one, how did you get the outer plants to grow so evenly with the center?

Anyways, looks GREAT! Good Luck!

TheGreenFog
10-17-2006, 05:23 AM
Very Nice, man. Congrats are in order. I will now give you a "round of applause." Be thankful. This isn't gonna be easy. ;)

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Sure wish I could toke summadat wicha. :D Enjoy.

TGF

invision
10-17-2006, 02:29 PM
thanks guys and the stuff rocks too it gives so far a nice head and body stone it took a few min to kick in at first i thought i had some hemp on my hands but 10min later she kicked in nice and easy :)

HighSeekerz- its just a single plant i LST'ed her and tied every single branch the same hieght and kept the main cola 2" below the rest then i set her into flower and untied the main cola the rest remained tied until harvest.

it all really seemed to work out, im going to LST probly from now on i like the look of it and the buds get lots of light all over cant lose on this one, again thanks for looking i hope i motivated someone here and showed just how easy it really is if you pay attention to the plants.

ill repost a final wieght after a good cure until then have fun guys ill start a new thread when i order some seeds im looking into C99xNL that look nice to grow

TheGreenFog
10-17-2006, 03:28 PM
So you've dried them for a few days now, right? What's the weight now? Did you weigh when wet?

TGF

biff
10-18-2006, 03:09 PM
i agree with everyone else, your plants look fricked baller as shit, people must have thought you knew what you were doin so they just left well enough alone!!

invision
10-20-2006, 10:24 PM
all dried and i got 24 grams not too bad for vegging a month it gets you high as hell :)

thanks for looking have fun growing

faithless
11-13-2006, 05:31 AM
Mmmm...Tasty

TheBudBuster
01-19-2007, 10:50 AM
excellent work... im posting pics of my nlxbb last few weeks i thinks..

Peace and Enjoy
TBB

invision
01-19-2007, 03:18 PM
hey thanks :)

i see you dug this out from the bottom of the forum

barry buds
01-21-2007, 06:38 PM
i am a first time grower also but i have my tread on the basic growing board and i am getting lots of help when i need it. the two biggest helpers for me are. latewood and brookerosebud. you should come check my tread out. i began flowering at around 20 days from seed and i will have 8 to 10 top colas. http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/98388-first-time-grower-im-stumped.html

Bree1978
01-21-2007, 07:17 PM
Great Log! Enjoy the harvest! :jointsmile: Bree