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GratefulDead4ever
09-10-2006, 07:02 PM
Last night after smoking a lot and drinking a lot we went out to go get some money from the atm now the whole car was full and i forgot i had weed and my bowl on me so we see a cop has pulled someone over so the three black kids in the back decide to yell out fuck the police doing so another cop pulls out and pulls us over they save me for last i thought i wasnt high but 3 blunts and a lot of bowls said otherwise so i stash the stuff under the seat cause i was freaking out but i wasnt driving the cop comes over and knows the black kids like there friends he has busted them before so all of us get a breathalizer i had like 8 beers and passed somehow the cop took one look at me and goes you been smoking and i was like yes and he goes you look stoned out of your mind.

So he tears through the whole car looking everywhere he finds the weed i gave the kid to hold he waits for my spot last and then gets the pipe and the roaches i was like shit and i got disorderly conduct it sucks cause some people dont know how to be chill and dont call me a racist but the fact that these black kids have been caught a lot also made things worse. But we were all fucked up thats my story

Frivolous248
09-10-2006, 08:14 PM
No, you weren't busted, you ratted yourself out. Theres a difference. Do you realize you have the right to remain silent? You DONT have to answer any questions without a lawyer. You also do not have to consent to searches. Only way to get busted is if you have something in plain view. Why bother hiding your stash if your just gonna basically say "yes i have been doing illegal drugs"

orangeman
09-10-2006, 08:33 PM
Lol Frivolous is right. But anyways what happened next? Are you going to court or what?

Frivolous248
09-10-2006, 10:11 PM
Yeah, what did happen next?

And also, I highly suggest you watch this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NmC5wHfCdM mainly the first part with the 3 stoners. Thanks to whoever had this in their sig when I first clicked it.

Cas
09-10-2006, 10:14 PM
No, you weren't busted, you ratted yourself out. Theres a difference. Do you realize you have the right to remain silent? You DONT have to answer any questions without a lawyer. You also do not have to consent to searches. Only way to get busted is if you have something in plain view. Why bother hiding your stash if your just gonna basically say "yes i have been doing illegal drugs"
true he shouldn't have said anything. but if the kid is obviously stoned maybe that's justified as probable cause. :confused:

Frivolous248
09-10-2006, 10:19 PM
Nope, a cops "hunch" is never probable cause. Neither is him claiming to smell something funny. Only probable cause is if something is in plain view, like roaches in an ash tray, a mysterious bag with green stuff on the back seat, etc. Then, he can check out whatever he sees, and if that roach in the ashtray is weed, he can proceed to search the car.

Its really not hard to avoid getting busted...people just don't know their rights or are too scared to excercise them. Cops intimidate people to think otherwise, seriously, everyone watch that video, as long as you hide your stash, you are pretty much safe.

PotHeed420
09-10-2006, 10:37 PM
No, you weren't busted, you ratted yourself out. Theres a difference. Do you realize you have the right to remain silent? You DONT have to answer any questions without a lawyer. You also do not have to consent to searches. Only way to get busted is if you have something in plain view. Why bother hiding your stash if your just gonna basically say "yes i have been doing illegal drugs"

You don't have to talk after you are arrested, before then you have to answer any questions. I also agree that you shouldn't have just told him you were high.

GratefulDead4ever
09-10-2006, 10:57 PM
I know i shouldnt have told him but he knew i was stoned and why lie and risk more shit i personally dont know why the driver gave him consent to look in the car but cops no that a car full of guys at 3 in the morning and one guy under 21 drunk and almost every kids eyes red in the car we were fucked and i was nervous as shit cause it was such bullshit for those guys to even say that shit

I am not going to court i got disorderly conduct i guess i got off pretty easy i will get a fine in the mail but i know what people will say it could have been worse and i know it could have been i could have spent the night in jail or probation

Frivolous248
09-10-2006, 11:24 PM
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.

You didnt have to LIE. Trust me, you can just say nothing, if he bugs you about it, say you have the right to remain silent, theres nothing he can do about it.

It doesn't matter if its before, or after you are arrested, you don't have to speak without a lawyer. Like I said, watch that video and learn the law.

video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NmC5wHfCdM

GratefulDead4ever
09-10-2006, 11:58 PM
I guess i just wanted to cooperate so he would let us go but i hear what your saying i shouldnt have said anything

OniEhtRedrum781
09-11-2006, 12:14 AM
I guess i just wanted to cooperate so he would let us go but i hear what your saying i shouldnt have said anything

I understand where you're coming from, but when it comes to weed, cops won't think twice about fucking you in the ass.... metaphorically speaking, of course...

homestar
09-11-2006, 07:31 PM
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS!!!!

GratefulDead4ever
09-11-2006, 07:41 PM
i hear ya and i just watched the video now i understand what i could do but i wasnt the driver and i had no say whether he could have searched the car where should i have put my stuff

FakeBoobsRule
09-11-2006, 07:45 PM
If you weren't driving you don't have to take any tests or say anything. You should have kept it on you anyway because it looks like he was going to search the car after someone yelled F the Poilce; but it would have been harder for him to justify looking in your underwear. He might have wanted to do a pat down for weapons but he probably wouldn't have been able to pull you out of the car you were not driving and search your nuts. You got off easy unless they hit the owner of the car with drug possesion. Then you are a bad friend.

GratefulDead4ever
09-11-2006, 08:01 PM
well i guess cause one kid was positive for alcohol in his breath from the breathalizer they decided to do it for everyone and the cop has pulled these guys over before plus i didnt think about hiding it on me until later but i learned not to hang with them anymore

Bodom Children Of
09-11-2006, 08:10 PM
what about when you don't consent to a search and then they get the fuckin' dogs to sniff it out. If the dogs start barking saying there is drugs nearby is that not probably cause to search? that's what happened when i got pulled over with some people

trupothead420
09-11-2006, 08:31 PM
in all honesty it doesnt really matter wha u do, say or dont do/say...a cop is a cop...meaning they r fukin diks...they will search u or do w/e they want when they want b/c theyr cops...bunch of BS but thats how it is...even if they dont have a reason..or probable cause they will try and find something to give them that or jus make some shit up...happens all the time

Frivolous248
09-11-2006, 09:47 PM
what about when you don't consent to a search and then they get the fuckin' dogs to sniff it out. If the dogs start barking saying there is drugs nearby is that not probably cause to search? that's what happened when i got pulled over with some people

I'm not too sure...but I would make sure to say "I do not consent to any searches" so that way, whether they have probable cause or not, you have done all you can, and if they search without your consent or probable cause, any evidence will not hold up in court.

GratefulDead4ever
09-11-2006, 10:39 PM
yeah but you go to court for all that trouble and if they got your pipe and weed they lose that cause they dont give it back

Frivolous248
09-11-2006, 11:27 PM
Would you rather consent to search, and not only lose the pipe, but go to jail?

lagstronaut
09-11-2006, 11:32 PM
yeah but you go to court for all that trouble and if they got your pipe and weed they lose that cause they dont give it back

my freedom > my pipe

MrFuzzles
09-12-2006, 12:23 AM
>.<

pbzeppelin90
09-12-2006, 03:25 AM
frivolous was the first to point it out. you DO have rights. just say "can i go now" etc. even if he still searches the car, you can get it thrown out in court.

GratefulDead4ever
09-12-2006, 03:29 AM
yah i hear ya brother but it wasnt my car so if it was my car i wouldnt have let him search it but i was sitting on the ground and next thing you know the cop is searching the car i guess the kid said it was ok

JaggedEdge
09-12-2006, 03:56 AM
i'm not sure if this has been said, considering I get tired of reading sometimes, and need to post what I think before I forget it. I have seen people refuse a search of their car so the cops proceeded to place them under arrest for one charge or another and than search the car. It all depends on if the cop is corrupt or not and how he feels about such substances. But denying a search doesn't always mean they won't find another reason to search your car. It's fucked up but it happens.

Captain Hanks
09-12-2006, 03:59 AM
yah i hear ya brother but it wasnt my car so if it was my car i wouldnt have let him search it but i was sitting on the ground and next thing you know the cop is searching the car i guess the kid said it was ok

Show your buddy the video mentioned above and thank him for getting you in trouble.:thumbsup:

GratefulDead4ever
09-14-2006, 02:39 AM
Got my fine today had to bring my parents down to sign for it cost me around $425 which i think is alot for me since i have no job but it could have been a lot worse

Tomorrow
09-15-2006, 03:06 PM
All this "I know my rights...I have the right to remain silent" shit just makes you look more suspicious. Basically...YES you do have those rights...and YES you should take advantage of them when possible but do not just OUTRIGHT recite your rights to the cop...that shit makes the cop think, "Why the fuck would an innocent dude be all up on his right and shit...unless its preperation"

Plus, I've heard of cops saying they hate it when kids think they have rights, blah blah...the fact of the matter is you're braking the law and it has become pretty obvious.

Just be chill...don't consent to any searches, but be polite about it...don't get all beligerant or defensive.

Work the cop...tickle his balls...whatever you gotta do...MAN UP.

Peace brothers.

PS I fee for you man. I have never been busted for anything yet...and I am looooooooong overdue...God continue to bless me...and God bless all. Be smart all.

Frivolous248
09-15-2006, 10:05 PM
.......whoa whoa whoa, cops hate it when kids THINK they have rights?

Who the fuck cares if we're breakin' the law, ain't hurtin' no one, and just tryin' not to get hurt ourselves. Cops are there to harm you, your rights are there to protect you. We have rights for a reason, to balance it out.

trupothead420
09-16-2006, 09:08 PM
i'm not sure if this has been said, considering I get tired of reading sometimes, and need to post what I think before I forget it. I have seen people refuse a search of their car so the cops proceeded to place them under arrest for one charge or another and than search the car. It all depends on if the cop is corrupt or not and how he feels about such substances. But denying a search doesn't always mean they won't find another reason to search your car. It's fucked up but it happens.

well put brah..thats wha i was pretty much tryin to say...if they wanna search u they will..no matta wha...consent/probable cause or not...they will if they want...and when u go to court nothin u can do...who the judge gonna believe...some one that got caught wit sum bud, pipe..etc... or the cop? tha cop fo sho......its all a bunch of BS!!!!...like u said..its f*ked up, but it happens

spiked666killer
09-16-2006, 09:43 PM
You couldnt of said it better your self. Who do you think the judge will really bealive. It's not like your going to have it on video to prove you said it. Police work for the judges. They are there to arrest and prosicute.

Fan o KmK
10-02-2006, 08:25 PM
yea dude u fucked urself. im sure you have by now but DEFINATLY watch that video. itl save your life.

Fan o KmK
10-02-2006, 08:26 PM
well put brah..thats wha i was pretty much tryin to say...if they wanna search u they will..no matta wha...consent/probable cause or not...they will if they want...and when u go to court nothin u can do...who the judge gonna believe...some one that got caught wit sum bud, pipe..etc... or the cop? tha cop fo sho......its all a bunch of BS!!!!...like u said..its f*ked up, but it happens

even if that happens, your lawyer can call for something...forgot what its called but it basically renders the evidence not usable because the reason for searching was unjustified.

Captain Hanks
10-02-2006, 08:30 PM
Got my fine today had to bring my parents down to sign for it cost me around $425 which i think is alot for me since i have no job but it could have been a lot worse

425! You could have boughten an oz and a half!!!:p