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RESiNATE
10-21-2004, 08:09 PM
It happened about 6 years ago.
My friend came over to my house, and asked if I had any smoke - I had not, but suggested that we go to my contact and get some.
He had been drinking, not much, but enough for him not to be able to drive - so I had to drive.
There is a stretch of road that runs alongside a very steep hill, and to the left, a 30ft drop onto a steep slope thaty runs down about 200ft to a river. The road was wet, but it was not raining. Luckily, I was feeling rather sedate at the time, and my usual stlye of driving was curtailed into a nice steady drive. As I rounded a corner (one that, in the dry, I have taken at well over 80mph) (I was doing less than 50mph at this time), the back of the car stepped out. I wasn't too worried, as my speed was fairly low - but all of a sudden, the car swerved violently out of control.
I managed to get the car back under control briefly, before it went again. This time, I wasn't able to bring it under control.
We hit the bank that lined the side of the road, and the car flipped.
What happened next, I will never forget.

It seemed to take an eternity, but as the car was rolling, I thought that we had gone over the edge of the bank, anbd were now rolling down the hill towards the river, some 200ft below. I thought that this was it - we're dead.

I remember feeling totally calm and at peace - I was going to die, and there was nothing that I could do about it. I remember feeling almost relieved.
Then I saw a darkness coming towards me. It was like a darkness that I have never seen - total. Like being in a cave with no lights or sound.
It came towards me, and I knew that I was going to die. There was no 'life flashing before my eyes. No tunnel or angels. No voices or anything, but I knew in my heart that I was going to die.
And the wierdest thing about it was that I was cool about it.

My (then) wife was about three months pregnant with our first child, and that thought suddenly popped into my head - I thought "I can't die yet, I'm going to be a dad!"
It was at that point that I decided that I didn't want to die, and I moved my head down....just as the roof of the car caved in.

If I had not moved my head - it would not be there right now.

It hasn't changed my life - I haven't become a devout follower of any religion, but it did give me that experience of near-death.
It was totally calm.
Totally acceptable.

I met the Grim Reaper, and I denied him.
I wonder if I offended him lol

Just thought that I'd share it, but of course it is a shortened version of what happened that I cannot properly put into words...very wierd.

Res...

Euphoric
10-21-2004, 08:44 PM
Wow reinstate...thats really a great story. I totally believe you, too. And I'll tell you why...because i've met death too!
My heart stopped, my body fell and my soul floated peacefully out. I was cool with it too. Kind of a nice feeling. Death offered me a choice, to stay or go. And like you, i chose to stay for my family. Plus theres so much more weed to smoke and music to write!
:) thats fuckin awesome huh!!!!!

maryjanemama
10-21-2004, 08:54 PM
Wow. :eek: Hopefully, if anything like that happens to me I'll get a choice, too. I have sleep apnea and sometimes when I stop breathing I dream that I am suffocating and it's horrendous...it's not peaceful at all. I no longer sleep on my stomach anymore because of the nightmares I have when I stop breathing.

Euph, do you mind if I ask what happened to you?

RESiNATE
10-21-2004, 09:03 PM
Yeah, like, when I got out of the car, I noticed that every single panel on it had been smashed. The police told me I was lucky to getr out of.
What seemed to take an eternity, took only a few seconds. I was amazed at how little distance the car had actually travelled during the tumble.

We were both ok, if a little shaken, and the cops gave us a lift to my contact lol

Ironically, the copper that was driving was pro-cannabis cool
Needless to say, we didn't tell him that we were going to score..hmmm, he might have taken umbrage to that..pro-cannabis, or not lmaoo

MJM, it must be horrendous for you...is it, like, when you are drifting off to sleep, your whole body has to 'jump' back into ife because you slow down so much?
Kinda like goin into hibernation?
I get that, and it pisses me right off lol...just dropping off, then WHAM!!!..WTF!!...
My ex-missus used to hate me for that (amongst other things), because she usually got kicked or summat lol...I told her I couldn't help it....bwhahahahaa, much

Lulu
10-21-2004, 09:04 PM
DOUBLE WOW :eek:
Great story Res *applauds loudly :D

Ok Maryjane what were you saying???????
Oh Yea Euphoric :p you're up next
I'll just go and put the kettle on......;)

maryjanemama
10-21-2004, 09:12 PM
Lulu, you're too funny. I was saying I have sleep apnea, it's when you stop breathing when you sleep. It started out as just really LOUD thunderous snoring and became much worse. If I sleep on my stomach I will stop breathing. When I do I will dream that I am suffocating...being strangled, drowning, etc. It's awful. It's not peaceful, I'll start to panic and fight and freak out. I will wake up and have to take deep breaths to regain my normal breathing and then I am usually so freaked I have to get out of bed. I get that smacked feeling like Res was talking about where you feel like you've jumped back into your body, too. Needless to say, I sleep on my side or back.

Euphoric
10-21-2004, 09:19 PM
hmmm...
well i had been having panic attacks, but this one took the cake...i had got so worked up in my panic. inside my mind and my body this RED ALERT feeling came over me. I knew i had only seconds to live. I had to calm down!!!
But i couldn't. My left arm went numb, turned purple. Then My heart gave such a terrible THUMP and then seized and stopped. It hurt a lot.
Then i fell down. My vision changed. And i felt myself slip out of my body, floating, weightlessly. It felt really cool. I was like..hey this is neat!
A Portal opened before me. it was dark. well..the communication between me and death was strange. no words. only understanding. i knew that it was not yet my time, though i could be realeased if i wanted...
death approved. the portal closed. i sunk back into my body (quite difficult. it was like putting on a really big glove) and then woke up. then i went to the ER. yay :D
thats why i believe you reinstate!

Lulu
10-21-2004, 09:24 PM
Lulu, you're too funny. I was saying I have sleep apnea, it's when you stop breathing when you sleep. It started out as just really LOUD thunderous snoring and became much worse. If I sleep on my stomach I will stop breathing. When I do I will dream that I am suffocating...being strangled, drowning, etc. It's awful. It's not peaceful, I'll start to panic and fight and freak out. I will wake up and have to take deep breaths to regain my normal breathing and then I am usually so freaked I have to get out of bed. I get that smacked feeling like Res was talking about where you feel like you've jumped back into your body, too. Needless to say, I sleep on my side or back.
"Holy sweet lamba devine jasus!!!!!!" as my Gran wud say :eek: That must be completely terrifying Maryjane.
I don't think I would ever be able to sleep :confused: You poor thing xxx

Wow Euphoric ~ what did they think at ER?

Euphoric
10-21-2004, 09:26 PM
ya that is pretty bad maryjanemama...do you have medication or one of those machines that help you breathe at night?
lulu..hi..oh..im not too sure what they said. they sedated me and i fell asleep. i dont remember much

apsinthion
10-21-2004, 09:38 PM
I remember my first panic attack, it happend on October the 2nd 2003 (I remember this cos I was my 20th birthday (I never liked birthday's but this took the biscuit) I panic'd for hours and the worst thing was that I didn't have a clue what the fuck it was. I was trying pretty hard to get off the drink at the time and I thought I might be better off in bed. So I tryed to sleep and I started to hear voice's and see thing's with my eye's closed I was de-realising to the extent that I belived I was going to die.

Anyway that is what I consider to have been my first death lol.

MJM do you have to wear a mask in bed? (I know a couple of people with sleep apnea and they do.)

RESiNATE
10-21-2004, 09:42 PM
"Like putting on a really big glove", was an excellent analogy, Euph...it's just like that!
When I was a kid, and sometimes even now, I can do what they call 'luminousity' (I think that's what they call it), where you can leave your body at will. I used to look down on myself, and even wander around the house and stuff. I have since found out that what I was doing was quite dangerous, because I didn't set myself up with a 'life-line'; ie, you should always have a means to return, or you'll get 'lost'.

MJM, sheesh, not quite the same thing that happens to me. Does it rule your life, ie, do you fear going to sleep?

RESiNATE
10-21-2004, 09:44 PM
PS, when you said about there being an 'understanding', rather than any talk...spot on, dude..exactly right..lol

Euphoric
10-21-2004, 10:09 PM
whats the word for when you want to say something but you dont know what it is?

RESiNATE
10-21-2004, 10:12 PM
Illiterate?

no, only kidding...I dunno, I'll think on it, and get back to you lol

Res...

Jimmicrackedcorn
10-21-2004, 10:14 PM
That sleep apnea thing, you say you get dreams of drowing or being strangled, do you actually struggle for breath in ure dreams and you can feel your lungs tightening? and its like ure trying to breath but somethings stopping you? like if you tried to breathe through plastic? I've had a lot of dreams like that, its not a nice feeling, I didn't know that was sleep apnea though. I had a dream once I was in a room that was slowly filling with water and I couldn't breathe, and I got the tightness thing and trying to breathe and I woke up feeling out of breath. Is that sleep apnea?

Bro DZ
10-21-2004, 10:14 PM
musta been black ice on the highway eh resinate? every time i hear about one of my buds rolling a car it sucks, but it seems to happen relatively often without anyone getting hurt =o)

i myself had a pretty crazy near death experience a few years back at a house party...

Heres how it went; me and my crew are security for one of the guys girlfriends house party. Everything was cool until the freshmen batch of football players form our highschool showed up and tried to talk shit to some fools. I was the only enforcer in the living room at the time, puffin on a nice gram and a 1/2 blunt when i hear these fools start up... Theres 3 little jocks standing in front of some other youngins that are sitting on a really plush couch LoL

Now then, I'm a big mofo, well over 200lbs and I like to fight. So as I'm walkin towards em, I tell em that they better get the fuck out. One of the kids stepped up and got in my path so i casually put his lights out with a jab. Now everyone in the living room gets all excited cause everyone realized some shit was about to go down... Jocks two and three barely got to turn around before I dropped em, #1 with a hit to the kidneys and #2 with a punch to the jaw. Ten minutes later, they where removed to the neighbors front yard LoL

an hour or two after that, one of my homies tells me somethings going down in the living room again, and whatever her name was wants us to stop it. So back to the living room I go. Theres a dozen fools brawling in there, so I dive right in!

now heres the good part (i guess)... I can't even remember what happened after I went into the living room cause I got the hell beat outta me with a baseball bat. When i finally came too, my head was wrapped up and I was freezing to death cause i was laying on an Ice pack, a rag with ice in it was on my head and another freakin ice pack was being held against my left shoulder by one of my friends as he blew smoke in my face LoL My home boy JW told me that I was heaving a dude off of him when another guy smacked me right in the lower back with a aluminum bat (ouch!!) I ofcourse dropped the dude i was picking up, then wheeled on my attacker in time to catch another blow with my shoulder. I grabbed the dude my his hair and threw him face first on the ground then started to turn towards another guy with a bat... but he smacked me right in the side of the head. BINK, i dropped. I have a nice scar where he connected too.

anyhow, I remember seeing everyone fighting... I could recall who dropped who and whatnot, but i didnt remember being in the fight at all. it was pretty surreal. hope ya'all enjoyed that :D

IntrepidS
10-21-2004, 10:49 PM
musta been black ice on the highway eh resinate? every time i hear about one of my buds rolling a car it sucks, but it seems to happen relatively often without anyone getting hurt =o)

i myself had a pretty crazy near death experience a few years back at a house party...

Heres how it went; me and my crew are security for one of the guys girlfriends house party. Everything was cool until the freshmen batch of football players form our highschool showed up and tried to talk shit to some fools. I was the only enforcer in the living room at the time, puffin on a nice gram and a 1/2 blunt when i hear these fools start up... Theres 3 little jocks standing in front of some other youngins that are sitting on a really plush couch LoL

Now then, I'm a big mofo, well over 200lbs and I like to fight. So as I'm walkin towards em, I tell em that they better get the fuck out. One of the kids stepped up and got in my path so i casually put his lights out with a jab. Now everyone in the living room gets all excited cause everyone realized some shit was about to go down... Jocks two and three barely got to turn around before I dropped em, #1 with a hit to the kidneys and #2 with a punch to the jaw. Ten minutes later, they where removed to the neighbors front yard LoL

an hour or two after that, one of my homies tells me somethings going down in the living room again, and whatever her name was wants us to stop it. So back to the living room I go. Theres a dozen fools brawling in there, so I dive right in!

now heres the good part (i guess)... I can't even remember what happened after I went into the living room cause I got the hell beat outta me with a baseball bat. When i finally came too, my head was wrapped up and I was freezing to death cause i was laying on an Ice pack, a rag with ice in it was on my head and another freakin ice pack was being held against my left shoulder by one of my friends as he blew smoke in my face LoL My home boy JW told me that I was heaving a dude off of him when another guy smacked me right in the lower back with a aluminum bat (ouch!!) I ofcourse dropped the dude i was picking up, then wheeled on my attacker in time to catch another blow with my shoulder. I grabbed the dude my his hair and threw him face first on the ground then started to turn towards another guy with a bat... but he smacked me right in the side of the head. BINK, i dropped. I have a nice scar where he connected too.

anyhow, I remember seeing everyone fighting... I could recall who dropped who and whatnot, but i didnt remember being in the fight at all. it was pretty surreal. hope ya'all enjoyed that :D

Sounds like some mad fun!! (well, except for getting hit with a baseball bat I guess)

Imotep
10-22-2004, 03:53 AM
good stories.

my 2 cents-
i was having a quiet one under my favorite tree when a dark flash flew above me and zoomed into the distance.
i wasnt too stoned and rareley see anything anymore except for spiders which i have a billion of anyway.
i said to myself -well that was weird, looked like a flying reaper-felt a little unsettled. next day i heard an old school mate topped himself in a japanese hotel.
now i dont read into these things too much but it was strange all the same.

Bro DZ
10-22-2004, 05:46 AM
spiders are some scary little f*kers :eek:

the only thing that I can recall that gave me a perfectly crystal clear look at life was having a gun pointed at my face... thats do or die time right there. When Res said he was at peace, thats how ya feel when you know your about to make a decision thats going to decide your existence. Thats how i felt when i had a gun pointed at me... when crazy ass people where blasting on the neighbors pad though, i was just straight up scared though LoL dont wanna catch a stray, u know? :p

RESiNATE
10-22-2004, 10:56 AM
Shit, Bro...a bat upside the noggin is not a good thing *ouchies*

I only ever had one fight in my life (proper one, anyways)...it lasted about 10secs, and scared the shit out of me.
This boxer dude thought that he wanted to pit himself against my kung-fu. I didn't want none of it, so walked away (watching my shadow as I walked). As I watched my shadow, I could see his fist coming towards the back of my head - I moved my head forward, but not quite enough, and he put a glancing blow across the back of my head. For reasons that will take too long to explain here, I am particularly sensitive to being hit on the back of the head (abusive step-father), and I lost it.
My mate, who was standing just away from it all, said afterwards that he'd never seen anyone strike so fast...I hit the bloke twice in the face, and then 5 times more before he hit the floor lol...boxing my arse lol.
But afterwards, I was, like, shaking like a mofo...scared the shit out of me, because every blow I delivered had to be 'redirected', as they were killing strikes.

I'll always walk, if I can. Too risky!

Imotep
10-22-2004, 01:29 PM
martial arts are great. my missus does karate.
i seen her sensai do okinawan oar stuff where ancient fishermen fought with oars. its real mr miagi stuff.

he could kill 20 dudes no question.peace through superior firepower

Bro DZ
10-22-2004, 04:02 PM
yeah, getting cracked in the back of the skull pisses off everyone. I think its a natural reaction because its so easy to die from a blow to the back of the head =o(

i kinda know how your boxer foe musta felt before he hit u... "I'm a freakin boxer! I can take this weeny!" LoL

One of my friends who's father used to be a professional boxer had that mentality... till he had his jaw broke by a real big white supremecist (which totally shocked me cause i thought they went extinxt in Los Angeles LoL) It only took one hit, or so he tells us.
Another pair of my friends are uber professional martial artists... atleast they used to be. Jason Genco and Mark Salamante, maybe someones heard of them? I used to go with em to tourneys and help em warm up and stuff. Mark really had his discipline down. I only saw him fight outside a tourny once... and he fucked up this fool after he got hit too. I think Mark broke the dudes arm and dislocated his shoulder so bad he needed surgery. owie.

but anyhow... I would place my fighting style up against anyone elses... I am like water, like bruce lee teaches... I fight to win LoL Some people are just better, quicker, more ingenious fighters though and u never know whos gonna be da man till they drop you =oP as I am sure u showed the boxer