Sativa or Indica...

[trupothead420]

NL and NL #5...S or I
NL x Blueberry....would b what....
im tryin to find out what they r so i know by the trichomes, when to harvest...thnx

[the image reaper]

Northern Lights is straight Indica ... Blueberry is Indica-dominant, with a bit of sativa, I believe ... (while my friends love Blueberry, I prefer other strains, so I don't keep up on them) ... and, to my knowledge, the trichome color phases are the same for both Indica and Sativa, I've never heard differently ... :smokin:

[JiGGabOo]

why do u need to know if its S or I to harvest by thrichomes. it doesnt matter if its sativa or indica, it has the same harvest method...........

[trupothead420]

why do u need to know if its S or I to harvest by thrichomes. it doesnt matter if its sativa or indica, it has the same harvest method...........

well this is wha i have been told and it makes sense...
1st phase Clear= pure THC-"head" high so u would harvest ur Sativa/sativa dominant for the full effect of the sativa high....

2nd phase Cloudy/Milky= thc is breakin down to cbn's- has a balance of "head" and "body" high so u would harvest ur hybrids for a pretty even mix high....

3rd phase Amber= most of thc has broken down to cbn's and cbd's(i believe) - couchlock effect, so u would harvest ur Indica/indica dominant for the full indica high...

so from what u told me image, since NL and BB r both Indica/indica dominant , and one of the plants r NL x BB, then i would wait for the trics to b mostly amber and the NL #5( being NL, would it b safe to assume that it was indica?) would b the same....thnx

[the image reaper]

well this is wha i have been told and it makes sense...
1st phase Clear= pure THC-"head" high so u would harvest ur Sativa/sativa dominant for the full effect of the sativa high....

2nd phase Cloudy/Milky= thc is breakin down to cbn's- has a balance of "head" and "body" high so u would harvest ur hybrids for a pretty even mix high....

3rd phase Amber= most of thc has broken down to cbn's and cbd's(i believe) - couchlock effect, so u would harvest ur Indica/indica dominant for the full indica high...

so from what u told me image, since NL and BB r both Indica/indica dominant , and one of the plants r NL x BB, then i would wait for the trics to b mostly amber and the NL #5( being NL, would it b safe to assume that it was indica?) would b the same....thnx



:D that question just made me realize how stoned I am ... lol ... I have no idea what you just asked ... :D ... OK, forget what you've been told ... the trichs' color represents the same stage, whether they are indica, or sativa ... CLEAR = THC not mature enough ... CLOUDY trichs = peak THC potency, and a 'head high' ... AMBER = THC degrading, CBD increasing, so is more of a body stone ... :stoned:

[smoky mcpot 05]

trupothead, still with me, I haven't steered you wrong have I? Northern Lights is a primarily indica dominant hybrid. NL 5 the same. Blueberry is sativa dominant.

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from the strainlist:

Blueberry

Blueberry is a mostly Indica (80% Indica, 20% Sativa) strain, that dates to the late 1970's. A large producer under optimum conditions. A dense and stout plant with red, purple and finally blue hues that usually cure to a lavender blue. The finished product has a very fruity aroma and taste of blueberry. It produces a notable and pleasantly euphoric high of the highest quality and is very long lasting. Medium to large calyxes. " Blueberry" has a long shelf life and stores well over a long period of time. Specifications: ~ Flowering: 45-55 days ~ Height: 70-100 cm ...

Northern Lights

A pure Indica, won the Cannabis Cup in '88, '89, '90. Much used for cross breeding for it's strong and big buds. Famous throughout the world, everyone has heard of N.L. Sweet taste and very potent stone. Specifications: ~ Flower: 7-8 weeks

( I'm not disagreeing with anyone, I just wanted to illustrate where I came up with my answers ).... :smokin:

[smoky mcpot 05]

were did you get that mis-information? DJshorts blueberry (the orginal creator of blueberry and the world famous one) is mostly sativa made with a Thai (Sativa) Purple Thai (Sativa), and Afghani Indica (obviously Indica) and Northern Lights used to be a 100% indica, specifically a highly inbreed Afghani. It never became stable like Skunk #1 and around 1978 was crossed multiple times with Skunk #1 and Haze in a attempt to stablize it. So therefore nowadays it isn't a 100% indica, just indica dominant. Northern Lights is primarly used as a crossing partner to provide that furry resin look often associated with potent varieties, but NL tends to have very small resin heads and the length of the stalks. Making it relatively weak compared to other strains.
Also about NL#5 twenty years of selective inbreeding produced this strain. A cross of a Northern Lights male x Thai/ NL female. Meaning that this strain has a little bit more sativa in it.

Theres your history lesson for today kids...any questions?

[trupothead420]

tnx for all tha input guys....yea smoky im still wit u, im jus a lil confused and jus wanna make sure to find out everything for sure...dont think im sayin ur wrong or ne thing b/c im askin all these things...so what color stage should i harvest if u dont mind me askin? NL x BB=?
NL #5=? thnx

[smoky mcpot 05]

No I don't, its good that you ask all these questions, and thats why I'm answering them with information I know to be true...

NL x BB since it will be a pretty even split hybrid, slightly more indica than sativa. Shoot for mostly cloudy with a few amber trichomes. Say a 80:20 ratio, cloudy:amber

NL#5 since she is a mostly indica strain go for mostly amber with some cloudy left. say 75:25 ratio, amber:cloudy.

[the image reaper]

Quote: " Theres your history lesson for today kids...any questions? "


no questions from me ... btw, this 'kid' has been growing marijuana since 1965, far be it from me to argue with an 'expert' ... :D

[smoky mcpot 05]

lesson not over yet, imagereaper, CBN is what happens when THC starts to degrade. CBD only comes into play when the THC and CBN has been squeezed and damaged by force and light to create CBD which is even less psycoactive the CBN.

[smoky mcpot 05]

Quote: " Theres your history lesson for today kids...any questions? "


no questions from me ... btw, this 'kid' has been growing marijuana since 1965, far be it from me to argue with an 'expert' ... :D

Well by the mis information you've been giving in this thread alone, you sure wouldn't know it. So again were did you get that 'information' about those strains from?

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http://www.seedbankupdate.com/strains.html

when discussing strains, I think its more important to consider its ORIGIN, as every breeder adds something to the mix,which further confuses things ... true, NL#1, NL#5, etc., have been hybridized with sativas to some extent, over the years, but the original Northern Lights, for example, is a 100% indica first grown out, and named, in Seattle WA quite a few years ago ... I'm not getting into a pissing contest about this, and this strainguide isn't all that informational, as most aren't ... I can grow out a plant, and name it anything I choose ... after all, nobody REALLY knows what theyre growing or smoking, you're always taking someone else's word for it ... I'm done here, you have a nice day ... :smokin:

[smoky mcpot 05]

http://www.seedbankupdate.com/strains.html

when discussing strains, I think its more important to consider its ORIGIN, as every breeder adds something to the mix,which further confuses things ... true, NL#1, NL#5, etc., have been hybridized with sativas to some extent, over the years, but the original Northern Lights, for example, is a 100% indica first grown out, and named, in Seattle WA quite a few years ago ...

"Northern Lights used to be a 100% indica, specifically a highly inbreed Afghani. It never became stable like Skunk #1 and around 1978 was crossed multiple times with Skunk #1 and Haze in a attempt to stablize it. So therefore nowadays it isn't a 100% indica, just indica dominant."

So if you admit this fact than whats up with the, "northern lights is a straight indica"?

Yes, thats what I was saying the Orginal NL that we knew was a 100% indica. But now-a-days that isn't true as everything from our time has been 'watered down'. It was around 30 years ago to be more specific. Skunk #1, Haze and Northern Lights all came to Europe by clone only females, around 1978. Meaning that the europians had to make seeds by crossing those clone only females with some other local strain, which has been done God only knows how many times. They have continued this system of 'watering down' with most strains out today. Thats why I would not advice buying seeds from European companies if you're looking for a stable uniform consistant strain. Your completely right about strainguides and mostly right about people can name anything plant they want anything. The all the information that I pass on to others is what I know for a fact to be true, I've done all the research on, talk to the experts, (a few in person) and have found to be tried and true before passing on to others. I respect your decision not to get 'into a pissing contest' about this, I feel the same and this will be the last I post about this subject. I hope we can continue to help others (maybe even each other) to grow better cannabis. And you have a nice day as well. :thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

I agree with all you just said, ... I should have pointed out to him, that the original version probably isn't relevant these days, likely rare to find ... you have a good attitude .. like me, you are only here to help ... :thumbsup: , :smokin:

[smoky mcpot 05]

:D Amen brother, same here. :clap: "...I like the way you think, I'll be keeping my eye on you..."