View Full Version : If you grow in a basement can u see heat from a chopper?
Justin Incredible
08-25-2006, 04:44 PM
Just wondering because police can use the infra red camera to detect heat from lofts/attics which is the top floor.
SO if you grow in your basement they surely cant see the heat through the upper 2 floors can they?
smoky mcpot 05
08-25-2006, 05:57 PM
no they can't see it 2 levels down, but if you have thin walls to your basement theres a chance. But you're saving grace is that the basement is the coolest level in a house, more than likely its stays a few degrees colder than the upper levels. So everything will appear completely norml. (been growing in my basement for decades, no problems.) Also if your still worried about it they have a handy little product called polyshield. Check it out.
Justin Incredible
08-25-2006, 06:07 PM
Yeah just wondering because I am working at a house with 3 floors and a basement. The basement is half used and half it is blocked up with only 1 small hatch to get into it. The part that isnt used is also broken up into 2 and you would never know the other part existed because the entrace could be easily hidden. I only found it because I was relocating pipes down there. I just thought at the time it must be one of the best places to grow because the walls are very thick there is absolutely no reason to go down there, even if someone got into the hatch it would be so easy to cover up the opening to the secret part. It is about 8 foot long 5 wide and atleast 5 foot high.
It is just perfect I really want the house lol. I mentioned it to my mate on the job who had been down there he had the same idea lol.
the image reaper
08-25-2006, 06:37 PM
paranoia ... :p ... last I heard, people are still allowed to heat their homes ... :smokin:
Justin Incredible
08-25-2006, 06:54 PM
No shit sherlock lol. But if you have a loft thats very hot on a freezing day the police might notice but I no where your coming from.
orangeman
08-25-2006, 07:12 PM
Just grow in a area thats well insulated and ventilated.
Justin Incredible
08-25-2006, 07:27 PM
LOL orangeman its not my house i wish it was. It just seemed so perfect I had to share it lol.
jamstigator
08-25-2006, 07:40 PM
If you're talking about anyplace in the U.S., they could see the heat signature of twenty 1k lights and not be able to do anything. The Supreme Court has already ruled that thermally imaging a person's house IN AND OF ITSELF constitutes a search, and is thus invalid without a warrant. In other words, if they already have a warrant, they could thermally image your home, but they can't use thermal imaging to get a warrant. And if they already have a warrant, it's much cheaper and easier to send five guys to your house and tear it apart than it is to send up a helicopter with thermal imaging equipment.
Pothead4204life
08-25-2006, 07:59 PM
yep jamstigator is right...just b/c you have 50 1000w lights doenst mean they can just barge in...who knows you might be growing tomatoes.
Justin Incredible
08-25-2006, 08:13 PM
I am not worried just curious for future reference lol. I dont smoke alot so Iwould never need a big grow room a half lasts a good 2 months I just thought it was the perfect size for doing everything in growing thne drying the bud and storing it because of the size and the secretacy.
mscaboo
08-25-2006, 10:27 PM
they would not see the heat at the lights,.....but you have to get rid of all that heat from the hid's somewhere and they will pick up the heat from the ducts that carry that heat
mashedguy
08-26-2006, 11:10 AM
here in uk my mate who lives opposite fell foul of the police helecoptor, which unfortunately goes over our houses on its way back to the station. Being very paranoid i lined the space between the roof trusses with rockwool, then lined it with space blankets and then a reflective mylar. i have a shower extractor which i've linked into which comes on for ten minutes every 3 hours and vents through the same vent as the shower. Also changed to envirolites. Up until his appearance in the local magistrates court he was constantly taking the piss of my paranoia. Unfortunately the consequence of this was him loosing his job in healthcare, and being unable to get another in the same field due to needing a clear police disclosure to work in the field
YOU CAN NEVER BE TOO PARANOID
Racerx
08-26-2006, 09:57 PM
here in california, there is no use for infared. they use helicopters for outdoor crops because cannabis tends to be a much lighter green and if you have experience, can be fairly easily spotted from the sky. Obviously to be spotted, you would need to be in an area that is well known for cannabis growing. For instance, Mendocino County in California has a significent helicopter presence, but unless your growing in over 200 plant plots that arent cammouflaged, its not as if its that easy to spot.
far as infrared is concerned, have you ever looked at an infrared image of a house? Aside from doing like 20,000 watts in an attic, there is so much random heat that there is no way to distinguish that much heat. Even if you have a basement of 20,000 watts, it wont appear one big uniform block. Your house will shield some parts and not others, presenting a chopped up image which could be a clothing dryer.
Now, if you have a barn, and your in the middle of nowhere, and by some super super super super super super super random coincidence an infrared camera gets your barn with 50,000 watts in it...then yes, it will paint up like a house fire because there is no insulation and nothing else around and at 11pm it would be odd to fine one uniform splotch. Do alternating rooms in that barn, and only sections will light up at a time, which is perfectly normal and doesnt attract attention.
I dont understand how people in the UK get caught by infrared. I think honestly, I could be wrong, but that is BS. They talked, someone else talked, it eventually led them to believe there was weed growing there. Maybe then they did a helicopter if they felt the arrest would offset the incredible cost it takes to run a helicopter (have you priced fuel in the UK recently?). But like was said, atleast in the US, thats inadmissable in court. I will always put money on that 99% of all arrests are because someone talked. Maybe then action was taken to illegally confirm their suspicions...but otherwise nah. I dont believe it.
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