Smoking hops

[stinkyattic]

Okay, my newest bit of useful/useless info:

I was reading up on medicinal herbs, particulary those with sedative or anti-anxiety effects, and came across a reference to people actually SMOKING hops.

This isn't TOO surprising since hops is the closest family member to cannabis, they are both classified as the Cannabacae, and as you can see from the attached thumbnails they're virtually identical in how they show their sex parts.

Lupulin, produced by the female flowers of hops, is a known sedative and anti-insomnia agent.

So my question is whether anyone has actually smoked hops, or uses it medicinally, and what the effect is.

Thanks all.

[bud breath420]

lol cant say ive ever smoked hops .. but you might be on to something.. know anywhere i can score a good strain of hops? lmao

[azure]

what the fuck bud breath.. do you regularly entertain yourself with your own waffle..that really is something.
but yea stinkyattic i find that stuff interesting, theres so many plants with psychoactive properties that arnt thought of. if you find they are smokable im sure seeds would be pretty cheap.

[stinkyattic]

I bought some seeds already from SacredSeed in Toronto, but planting them is a bitch. They have to be winter-sown in a cold frame, and transplanted in spring. You can also buy rhizomes from commercial outfits (definitely easier!) so that's what I'm going to do. It's already known to be a cure for insomnia!

[the image reaper]

many attempts have been made over the years of grafting hops to marijuana, in the hopes of creating a 'new' plant, that works like pot, but looks differently, to avoid detection ... the grafts works fine, problem is: there is NO THC in the hops portion of the plant ... unless you're making beer, no reason to grow hops ... (I hauled truckloads of the stuff from the NYC docks, to Budweiser in St. Louis, for years) ... cool thing was the odor from the trailer, smells strongly like skunkweed, disappointed the lawmen that opened my trailer doors ... :D ...:smokin:

[stinkyattic]

It's not THC I'm interested in, it's lupulin. Different coumpound.

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

People get the idea that THC is the one and only psychoactive compound, for some reason ... well it isn't.

Yes you can smoke hops. Yes I have smoked hops. Smoke them right before bedtime and you'll be happy for sleep. Good stuff.

[Budman37]

smoke hops???? do they get you buzzed??? if so where do you get em.... i'll give it a try...

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

Well, not "buzzed" per-say ... try it out. They have some at shamanspalace.com last time I checked.

[mendokid]

Talk to a brewer.

I have enjoyed a bowl of Hop hash with a local brewmaster from time to time. They told me hops have a ton of resin so it is easy to make the stuff. Of course after a few joints and a pint or 5 of beer it is likely the subtle effects were lost on me. So I noticed nothing.

[BigBlock]

That's funny, me and my friend like to go out to a local hop field at night to get stoned. :D I guess I'll have to barrow a few hops...

[bud breath420]

what the fuck bud breath.. do you regularly entertain yourself with your own waffle..that really is something.
but yea stinkyattic i find that stuff interesting, theres so many plants with psychoactive properties that arnt thought of. if you find they are smokable im sure seeds would be pretty cheap.

just having a lauf man chill.. sorry i type stupid shit when im high

[mashedguy]

tried hops, didn't notice anything!! did get off my face on nutmeg a long time ago mind, seriously trippy but not very good for your health so its not a viable option for long term abuse!! there's an interesting book out called stoned at the grocers which is where we got the ideas from. None of the things we tried compete with pot, so just stick to what you know will get you wasted. Three more weeks and my back garden in the welsh hills will be full of little potent mushrooms, which are superb as long as you have no intention of speaking to other people as you talk utter shit and laugh a lot!! weird law over here means their legal when fresh, but if you dry them their treated as a class A drug. bit of a shit as their only out for two weeks of the year.

[stinkyattic]

I have enjoyed a bowl of Hop hash with a local brewmaster from time to time. ....Of course after a few joints and a pint or 5 of beer it is likely the subtle effects were lost on me. So I noticed nothing.

LOL

Thanks UPS. That's what I was hoping for. I frequently have trouble sleeping.

[azure]

Well, not "buzzed" per-say ... try it out. They have some at shamanspalace.com last time I checked.

the affects are very mild then? how would you discribe them

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

the affects are very mild then? how would you discribe them

Have you ever tried Kava? It's sort of like a large dose of Kava ... not exactly, by any means. But sort of.

[Nochowderforyou]

I was just talking about something like this earlier.

If the problem you are having is sleeping, I was told that Indians way back when, used to brew up Catnip/Catmint in a tea and drink it. It is said to have sedative like effects and to help you sleep.

I don't really recommend smoking it though, but if sleep is what you're after, maybe brew some up one night. Who knows. :)

[Web Smoker]

maby instead of smoking hops we should brew beer with weed :)

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

maby instead of smoking hops we should brew beer with weed :)

Capitol idea. Brew some up and ship it to all the cann.com crew! Haha

[babystarbud]

ive hered hops is related to cannabis somwhere, and that you can graft cannabis cuttings onto hops plants.

must admit, bud beer sounds much better than hops spliff lol.

[stinkyattic]

ive hered hops is related to cannabis somwhere, .


Yeah, in the very first post on this thread:thumbsup:

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

:P I was about to say that, Stinky.

[stinkyattic]

Guess what?

I smoked hops this weekend!

I went to the Mt. Snow Brewfest in Vermont- It was AWESOME, Harpoon Munich Dark is STILL my all time favorite beer.

The nice people at Long Trail Brewery were kind enough to have a display that included some nice hop cones.

My impression is this:

The high is VERY sedative. Very sleepy and relaxing, but still similar enough to cannabis that you can recognize the relation.

I slept like a log afterwards.

The taste is a cross between the flavor of a nice IPA, and a REALLY good cigar, if you can imagine that.

The lupulin resin glands are a clear, bright yellow. The cones look like hemlock pinecones, but of course green, and papery.

I give cannabis' legal cousin a thumbs up.

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

:D I'm so glad to hear you liked it too!

[Volcanose]

I smoked hops for a few months. my conclusions are thus

- they smell funky like shoes

- theyre a bit relaxing and calming

- they dont get you buzzed unless alot is smoked

- they taste yummy like shoes

[horror business]

The pictures are of hops. The first picture is of the female buds before they turn into those pine-cone looking things... They look extremely similar to cannabis buds. If I were ever to smoke hops, I'd smoke them looking like cannabis buds, rather than smoking the pine-cone thing.

The second picture is of the leaves of the hop plant. It has 7 "fingers" although they are not completely sepearate, as cannabis leaves are. You can see though, how it looks very similar to a cannabis indica leaf.

[gmoney5ss]

This is very interesting to me because i have two problems, one is that i am now on probation for 12months and i had to quit burnin.. its not a problem for me to quit, well i mean it is but i have no choice so its not too hard to stop smoking.. BUUT my second problem is i cannot sleep.. ive tried nyquil, benedryl, pm medicenes... and nothing works, been an every day toker for 5 years now..

how strong was the effect after smoking? how long did it take to take effect?

[peace plz]

This sounds pretty interesting. My gf just informed me that a plant nursery down the street has hops. I might be experimenting with this sometime in the near future. And from what I've heard, the nations largest amount of hops are produced in the pacific northwest in washington and oregon. PERFECT.

I'll report back after I try it.

[stinkyattic]

You have to wait until they turn into pine cones and the lupulin glands have matured. Otherwise it's as dumb as smoking the first cottonball buds on your cannabis plant!

It's a pretty obvious effect almost immediately. Just keep smoking up until you get to the level of sleepiness you like!

I hear ya gmoney, I used to use Nyquil to get better sleep but it just gives me a horrible hung-over logey feeling the next day.

[Lamperus]

Personally I love smoking hops ...

[stinkyattic]

Personally I love smoking hops .....in public!
:D
The looks you get are hysterical.

[GreenLadyOfDankDowns]

I have insomnia that sometimes even weed can't help. I shall definitely have to look into trying hops and seeing if that has a more pronounced sedative effect on me.

[AlbinoRhino421]

where would you find hops? there is a home brew store where i live that might sell them, but do you know of anywhere else that i might be able to find them?

[Tomthehippie]

I was just talking about something like this earlier.

If the problem you are having is sleeping, I was told that Indians way back when, used to brew up Catnip/Catmint in a tea and drink it. It is said to have sedative like effects and to help you sleep.

I don't really recommend smoking it though, but if sleep is what you're after, maybe brew some up one night. Who knows. :)

Yea this is true! :D

[FlyGuyOU]

would concentrated hops work you guys think? one of my buddies brews his own beer and i guess he has hops in like a powder concentrate, i haven't seen it but im under the impression that its about the consisentsy of ground up nugs...ill have to try it out.

and forget about nutmeg, if you're going to be doing grocery store drugs, whip-its are where its @.

or Robo tripping

[1chronic]

Humm, I had never thought of that. I have trouble sleeping sometimes. I should try and look into where I can get hops from.

[whitewolfofsc]

Hops makea a very good addition to your herb if you are making ISO hash. I like the herbs to be about 1/4 hops.

[stinkyattic]

Wolf, I've often wondered how that would work.
I DO like to use hops as the base to smear the hash onto in my bowl though.

[whitewolfofsc]

Stinky, I have not tried using hops as my "green screen" for hash. I will have to give it a go sometime. As for KAVA KAVA, it is wonderful,, and is good for depression and stress. Brew a double strength cup if you use the tea bags. I use raw herb. I get it from oldtimeherbs.com bulk dried herbs product list (http://www.oldtimeherbs.com) They are a reliable and friendly company. Also good is "dragon's Blood" aka "Red Rock Opium". Actually it is not opium or even related. The tree is actually related to those luck bamboo shoots that people buy and train to grow in loops and stuff. Dragons Blood feels to me almost identical to Kava. Dreamy, sleepy and stoney.

Peace,
Wolf

[guerillagrowerz]

i was thinking about that one time. sounds good. is it bad for you?

[skatin_foo15]

wow, i will have to try this one day. I am assuming this is perfectly legal right?

[stinkyattic]

wow, i will have to try this one day. I am assuming this is perfectly legal right?

lol... you know those legal buds? One type actually IS hops. Humulus lupulus.

Totally legal.

If you have balls, fire up a CLEAN UNUSED bowl in public sometime... better not have any pot residue in it.

[Tomthehippie]

lol. my Arabic friend bought over some backy known as dockha - the nicotine content is obscene - gives u such a head rush. he used to smoke that in the pub in a obvious weedesk pipe. the backy was light green and he used to keep it in a sealey bag lol

[twocamaros]

a couple months ago a member of Highbred.net sucessfully got hops an lowryder to pollinate an got seeds.. he grew it out an got busted... damn shame

[Nissan_420sx]

extremely interesting...I've been battling insomnia for a few years now and the past few days have been terrible... only a few hours of sleep here and there...

Like the sleepiness aspect of it, does it knock you back on your ass or is it more calming and relaxing... Because for if I'm laying in bed for longer than 20 mins trying to get to sleep..I'm screwed for a few hours..I have to get up and move around..(I need something that'll knock me out, and I'm not a fan of prescription sleep aids..although they do work very well for me)

[Tomthehippie]

i found 2 massive fields of hops yesterday not to fair from my house. it was a bout 7 foot tall and looked like hemp at 1st glance - it looks like those photos u see from Africa etc..

[r00tdoctor]

wow stinkyattic, very informitive. I might have to get me some hops growing. I can never seem to sleep without something to put me to sleep.

[PharmaCan]

Wow - a lot of people with sleep problems here...

I was having sleep problems (if you can call four years of insomnia "sleep problems") up until about five months ago, then, apparently, it was cured.

For ten nights in a row I took a large dose (1.0mg) of Alprazolam (Xanax) - .25mg is a pretty standard dose for Xanax, if you want to be functional. .5mg puts you in LaLa land. 1.0mg knocks you out real quick and for a pretty long time. (If your physician doubts the wisdom of this regimen, tell him/her to compare the pharmacology of Xanax and Dalmane.)

The purpose of this was to reset my internal time clock, so, just like with our plants, it's important to go to bed and arise at the same time everyday - and no naps!!!

After ten days, I started sleeping really well without any drugs. Ten days on Xanax isn't enough to get you jones'd, so there weren't any unpleasant side effects when I quit taking the drug.

If you're into more natural treatments, I found a kick-ass Valerian extract (125mg). It's called "Valmane" by Solvay Pharma. I bought mine in Greece, I have no idea if it is available in North America.

Life is so much better with sleep!

[stinkyattic]

Yes, if you have sleep problems look at possible CAUSES too... like if you are prone to insomnia, don't do other activities in bed, like reading or watching TV- you will get into habits of being in bed but awake. No naps. Get on a VERY regular sleep schedule. Get some exercise in the evenings.

[mfqr]

Hop plants are actually related to Cannabis.

[stinkyattic]

Post #1, lol!



This isn't TOO surprising since hops is the closest family member to cannabis, they are both classified as the Cannabacae, and as you can see from the attached thumbnails they're virtually identical in how they show their sex parts.
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[mfqr]

Post #1, lol!

Oops, sorry :). I didn't see all of that there when page 1 first loaded. I only saw the first sentence (I guess it didn't all load right away), so I didn't realize that anybody knew that. Sorry for adding redundancy to this thread.

[stinkyattic]

lol you must be an engineer.
When in doubt, add redundancy.
Just in case anything happens!
:D

[erkins]

When I can't sleep I take pills called "Kalms" they relax me so I can get to sleep, I've just looked and the main ingredient is hops powder.

[spectrum balanced]

Harpoon Munich Dark is STILL my all time favorite beer.

The taste is a cross between the flavor of a nice IPA, and a REALLY good cigar, if you can imagine that.

I give cannabis' legal cousin a thumbs up.

KILLER fuckin post/thread. That sounds like an outstanding beer, and I SERIOUSLY want to smoke "a cross between the flavor of a nice IPA and a REALLY good cigar".

after getting my first grow set up, I began thinking how cool it would be to grow my own hops and brew my own beer. :thumbsup:

[JD1stTimer]

^^ twocamaros hops bred with lowryder... I don't buy it... I think his lowryder went hermie and he didn't notice. Let's see pics of the plant that grew.

[whitewolfofsc]

Also, WILD DAGGA or LIONS TAIL WEED is a good substitute. Tastes kinda nasty, but has a high very similar to cheap weed. You can grow your plants out in the open, and use them as an extender for your weed, in hash making, etc.

[rocktheganj]

where can you get hops?

[stinkyattic]

Brewing supply shops, and even the 'legal herb' vendors! They may be called 'cannabacea' if you buy them as 'legal herbs'.
Or you can look around if you have a local microbrewery/pub, most places around here anyway grow hops as an ornamental up the side of the building, and they are coming ripe at this time of year. They are pretty easy to grow, and hardy to at least zone 5, possibly even zone 4- I don't feel like looking it up, lol.

[wiserleo]

I've been going to the herb shop in town and picking out different things and coming home, looking them up online, then if I find out that its definitely not toxic and others have smoked it, I'll try it. During my search I've found; California Poppy, Damiana:thumbsup:, and Lemon Balm gave me a satisfying effect (which is huge for me because I've been an a.m.>p.m. smoker for over 10 years with a massive craving for bud).

I also found out about Lion's Tail flowers which seems to be touted as the closest to bud and hops always comes up in the search for alternatives.

When I got to the brewer's supply I was pleased to see that a really good friend of mine was working there and so I told him what I was trying to do. A little wierd at first, but he smokes more than I do and understood my plight with peaked intrest. I was thinking that Northern Brewer's Hops would be the best since thats the type of beer I prefer, but he turned me on to the strongest hops they had called "Magnum Hops". They smell potent as hell. I also got some "Cascade Hops" for variety since the "Northern" was in pellet form. The following results are from the "Magnum Hops" smoked in a glass pipe with a medium size bowl.

As I write, I've just returned from the brewer's supply and wish to give my report. So here we go...........

1st hit: a bit harsh, but certainly has qualities of high-grade bud.
2nd hit: easier than the first, less of a green taste, obviously.
3rd: had very little harshness and was actually sweeter...probably due to the resin

At this point I sat back and talked to my girlfriend and felt a slight head change, similar to bud and pleasing.

The Last Hit: Obviously the resin hit, expanding in the chest and more of a head shot than the other hits.

Overall, it is very similar to weak (schwag) bud. I think that I will mix the Damiana Leaf with the hops next time. It seems to have more of an effect and the hops have the green taste....so the combination should be quite pleasing. I hope that this has been entertaining if nothing else and hope everyone has fun with their experiments and keeping us all posted. Thanks a lot, fellow heads!:cool:

[wiserleo]

Didn't mix with anything, same as the previous post, "Magnum Hops"

Slightly more stoney with the second bowl. Like everyone else's experience, ready to lay down and go to sleep. Certainly an effect of smoking hops.

Will post again if any radical difference with the "Cascade Hops", etc.

New to the site, looking forward to honing in my cultivation skills as well.


Good vibes!

[wiserleo]

It seems like the dehydrating effect that hops have when drinking hoppy beer is present with smoking hops as well. This works against my own personal sleeping needs and is the reason I don't drink. Unfortunately, I'm not able to feel the same motivation to try more due to muscle aches and stomach cramps. This is my own personal chemistry and I wouldn't try to subscribe my decision to anyone else. Sticking to the sticky-icky. I think that the Damiana Leaf mixed with California Poppy has a better overall effect. Will check back in when I get my hands on some Lion's Tail Flower.

[wiserleo]

In the spirit of full disclosure, I would like to share some thoughts on Damiana for folks that are looking into that.

Its been my experience that the buzz is cool, not quite bud, but certainly psyco-active effects. It tastes a little funky, I don't know for sure but it may be a high DMT content in the leaves. Its not nearly as puitred as DMT though, just the only reference I can come up with. Since the first day I tried smoking Damiana Leaf I've had extremely vivid dreams that bring up people that I've been close to over the years and are either not around me now, or have passed away. If Salvia is the "See-er's Sage" then Damiana has to be the "Dreamer's Sage". Be careful, this seems to have the effect of bringing out things that are already there, but you are repressing. If there are memories of pain and violence, I'm not sure this would be the best thing unless you are ready to deal with those issues head on. Just one guy's opinion, take it as you will.:pimp: Thanks Cannabis.com!

[dtwof22]

i recently got a lowryder clone from a friend (so he says thats what it is called) and i have been growing it for about 25 days unnder 24hour light. just one plant. i just started to do 18 hr on and 6hr off yesterday. i am curious about a few things. i have just used nutrient added soil and a grow light. i have the proper equipment, but what i was wondering if; 1. It was possible to have a female clone of a lowryder? 2.What am i supposed to be looking for now? it hasn't began budding/blooming yet and i wanna make sure i'm doing the right things. this is my first time with this type of plant. from my understanding the plant is pretty simple to grow. 3. Since this is a clone will it not be as potient? please help, before i fuck up too many things. there were big leafs on it, the tips were turning brown so i cut them off. bud doesn't grow on them anyway.



thank you thank you thanks



~mentally confused and prone to wanderin.......

[MrMeds]

We grow hops and i can tell you if you make a tea from hops or you will be verrrrry sleeeeepy. Definitely works! No experience smoking them. How did they taste? They smell amazing!

[dude666]

I found this site hopshash.com (http://hopshash.com) Im wondering if its worth to buy?:rastasmoke:

[drudown11]

The first picture is the cannabis growing in my closet. Its in early flower.



The second picture is of one of my cascade hops, which is also in early flowering.





You almost cant tell them apart during the beggining of flower. I had no idea they had any kind of effect though. I have pounds of the shit.

[Ocotillo]

LOL, that's rich!


Yeah, in the very first post on this thread:thumbsup:

[Joey420Silva]

[quote=PharmaCan]

After ten days, I started sleeping really well without any drugs. Ten days on Xanax isn't enough to get you jones'd, so there weren't any unpleasant side effects when I quit taking the drug.[/QUOTE


xanax is one of the most crazyest druggs. i remember i took seven of the little ones on the busride to skool cause my friend just popped out with them they hit me b4 i even got off the bus i walked really slow and drunkilly but my friend had took over 30 threw out the day. when u do that for a few days you will have a withdrawel. it wasnt no xany Bar it was just the singles. low dosage.

[papagatto]

I've found Hops Hash (http://www.legalsmokestore.com/hops-hash.html) online store. Is this reasonable price of hops hash? Is there any difference between hops from New Zealand and hops from US? any suggestion?

[gypski]

Hey, I've heard of those old farm boys getting high off of smoking alfalfa!!! :lol5:

[northwestnative]

I realize this is an older post but I have had such a good experience with hops I wanted to share. I buy them from a local natural food/herb store. They are 2.00 an ounce and they work wonderfully for anxiety and sleep disorders. They work very well as a tea (pour boiling water over a Tablespoon and steep for 10 minutes) but I couldn't stand the taste. So now I vaporize them at about 1/2 the power of what I vaporize cannabis. Helped me get off xanax.

[Coconut1]

Do you recommend smoking this out of a joint, pipe, or bong?
Also, would you grow your own with a rhizome or just buy a few oz. Of dried hops on eBay?

[randomking]

hops shesha!