Re: It grew, now what do I do?

[Goldfinch]

My plant is about 3 weeks old and was just wondering what you could tell me about it. I found it in a bag of weed I bought so threw it in some soil and it has grown. I know the plant canâ??t be sexed until it flowers but the internodes of my plant are growing what I can only think are leaves. I have not used and lights at all except sunlight and a desk lamp, this is mainly due to the fact I had no expectation that it would grow and now it is bigger I have scrambled about trying to find out what to do with. I think it will need repotting soon and any advice on that is appreciated. Ill have to send links to the pictures as I cant upload them on this site, I donâ??t know how and I have tried very hard it just annoys me:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ! Thanx for help

http://www.badongo.com/pic/240334:- Full view - repot or not
http://www.badongo.com/pic/240335:- Internodes

[SkunkMe1]

Looks streched

Your plant needs:
Transplanting (biger pot at least 3 gallons) water first, turn upside down hold it with your hand, main cola between fingers then repot in the soil(3 gallon pot) you prepared before. Don't water for 2-3 days.
Lights - CFL 250-400W
Nutes- veg.nutes (more N than PK) organic if you can (start with lower dose)
Sterilized Water (bottled or water left at least 3 days opened)
Fan
After you trun the lights 12-12 you are going to find out the sex of the plant.

Good luck
Cheers:thumbsup:

[Goldfinch]

Should i water the pot it is originally in first and put water in new container before transaplant and leave for couple a days, and i have heard the term stretched allot what does this mean what are its effects how can i stop it?

[orangeman]

Should i water the pot it is originally in first and put water in new container before transaplant and leave for couple a days, and i have heard the term stretched allot what does this mean what are its effects how can i stop it?

Stretching can be caused by stress from lack of light causing them to search for it (which could cause problems down the line). What types of lights do you have? And no, you dont have to wet the new pot with the soil in it. Just water the old pot with your plant in it. I'm too lazy to type how to transplant step by step again so just do a search for it :p.

[Goldfinch]

Cheers im sure ill manage it. Currently i have sunlight, i am about to purchase some lighting in the next couple of days what sort of light should i be buying, i was heard metal halide good for veg stage, of should i get something else?

[orangeman]

Metal Halides are too much money and use too much electricity. Why use MH's when you can successfully grow the same plant under a couple of CFL's that probably use 25 watts and emits just as much as 80 watts altogether with a successful grow? I recommend you buy some cool white CFL's for seedlings and vegging stage. Also you can buy some warm whites too just to get a mixture of the light spectrum. For flowering, if you want a reasonable yield your probably gonna have to go ahead and buy a 400-600 watt HPS though :thumbsup:.

[SkunkMe1]

CFL-s are better for veg. stage, but if you buy metal halide buy it with the option, so you can switch from MH to HPS (high presure sodium-for flowering stage).


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[Goldfinch]

Cheers ill have a look at that great help, but one thing about this plant of mine there are leaves growing at all the internodes is this normal?

[orangeman]

Yes, that is normal :p.

[Goldfinch]

Write then ill have to buy one of those bulbs, ill keep you updated and how it goes and try attach some pictures if I ever work out how to do it:mad:

Ill send a link if I donâ??t manage it thanx for all your help im off to the garden centre in on hour to get the nutes Skunkme suggested. Now is a fan that necessary? Whatâ??s its use, does airflow make so much difference as I take my plant outside allot. What sort of what bulb am I looking at in watts? once again thanks but after all this effort I just no its gunna be a sodding male! but I can always get some more seeds.

P.S sorry for the barrage of questions its just growing it is probably as much fun as smoking it!

[SkunkMe1]

You need to keep your temperatures low(80 degrees max.), and airflow is necessary if you want a big healthy plant.
As for the lights you want at least 150w, be punctually with the lights you dont want to stress your plant. For veg.stage 18on 6 hours off. After you see your plant is healthy then turn the lights 12-12 for flowering.

NOTE: Your plant will double-triple the size in flowering stage.


P.S Read some growing guides and search the forums, that helps alot..:thumbsup:

Glad i can help

Cheers

[orangeman]

Write then ill have to buy one of those bulbs, ill keep you updated and how it goes and try attach some pictures if I ever work out how to do it:mad:

Ill send a link if I donâ??t manage it thanx for all your help im off to the garden centre in on hour to get the nutes Skunkme suggested. Now is a fan that necessary? Whatâ??s its use, does airflow make so much difference as I take my plant outside allot. What sort of what bulb am I looking at in watts? once again thanks but after all this effort I just no its gunna be a sodding male! but I can always get some more seeds.

P.S sorry for the barrage of questions its just growing it is probably as much fun as smoking it!

Yes it's necessary. With plants, lack of fresh air + plants = poor growth. So air is important. If you plan on using a HID for flowering in a room with windows though your gonna have to do some construction and block all light from leaking so fresh air through windows wont be an option but a oscillating fan and a squirrel cage fan can be used to keep the fresh air constant. If you plan on keeping your flowering space and vegging space in same room your gonna have to completely block the flowering room from any light possible so your probably gonna need a squirrel cage fan since your flowering room will be closed up most of the time if your not there but if your doin a small grow with seperate rooms a open door and a oscillating fan will be good enough for fresh air.

[Goldfinch]

Im off for the fertilisers and as soon as i have bought my light and stuff ill send a picture. But now i have looked at pictures of other plants i realised mine is very stretched so i was thinking when i transfer from one pot to another should i bury the main stem in some soil so its shorter, but more filled out? Or should the lights make new leaves sprout lower down the stem, or will it be ok anyways, as always thanx for advice.

[orangeman]

As long as you keep up a good job down the line your plant will recover and make up for the stretching. I've seen it happen before, now you just have to be more cautious :thumbsup:.

[Goldfinch]

Just got some nutes for the plant and had a look round for some for some lights I kno a local light shop but all the had CFL wise was some 10watts which is useless, im might buy some off the internet, or go to a local headshop keep you updated will repot it tommorow, just got some tomato feed with high nitrogen as seggested

[orangeman]

Just go to a hardware store or a regular retail store like Wal-Mart. They carry CFL's.

[nonsmoker420]

dont buy a big hps light either home depot or lowes or whatever big hardware store you have will carry 75 watt hps fixtures for like 50 bucks and you can harvest a nice plant under that.if you get bit by the "bug" and want to have a garden that produces 2 or 3 Os a month than get a big light.good luck:thumbsup:

[nonsmoker420]

and like orangeman said walmart has cfls and they are the best to start plants under.i currently have 80 under 4 cfls getting ready to go outside.when i figure out how to upload i'll put some of my outdoor on here.:thumbsup:

[burnable]

Write then ill have to buy one of those bulbs, ill keep you updated and how it goes and try attach some pictures if I ever work out how to do it:mad:

Ill send a link if I donâ??t manage it thanx for all your help im off to the garden centre in on hour to get the nutes Skunkme suggested. Now is a fan that necessary? Whatâ??s its use, does airflow make so much difference as I take my plant outside allot. What sort of what bulb am I looking at in watts? once again thanks but after all this effort I just no its gunna be a sodding male! but I can always get some more seeds.

P.S sorry for the barrage of questions its just growing it is probably as much fun as smoking it!


if you take your plant inside then outside frequently, you should know that growers have bug problems often when they bring outdoor plants in. the bugs that find the plant outside will come inside with it and have nothing else to eat but the cannabis. this might be more of an issue when it approaches flowering, so watch out.

and did you say that "I know the plant canâ??t be sexed until it flowers"?
it was a weird choice of words to me because you are responsible to start sexing, and thus flowering. You prolly know this by now but the plant won't flower unless it thinks winter is coming, so it needs at least 12 hours of continuous darkness daily for flowers to appear. males often flower before that. 3 weeks is pretty young to flower. rule of thumb is 4 to 6 weeks old or when the plant has 4 or 5 internodes or when it's between 8 and 12 inches tall. not all these are necessary conditions, you can usually go off of one

[Goldfinch]

Burnable, I understand that the plant can only be sexed when the light pattern changes to mimic that of on setting winter (shorter hours of light); however I do not pretend to have any sort of experience doing this.

I have just re-potted the plant and it looks good, had good healthy roots now the light has been troubling me it may be harder to track down 150-200 watt clf's here in England, hopefully I should be picking one up today (I love payday!). However I think as non-smoker so eloquently put it I think I have been bitten by the bug, what size light am I looking at for 5-6 plants, ill probably buying the seeds off the internet or anywhere I can get them, any suggested strain? Yes and I have noticed aphids on my plant when I bring it on a night which I have picked off, hopefully once I get a light sorted out I can put it in my shed in proper conditions, again thanx for the help and as usually would you mind answering my questions

Thanx Goldfinch

[Goldfinch]

The light has been troubling me what size will I need I heard references to anything up to 400w and 80w, I am grasping it all has something to do with lumens but what size do I need (you may have answered me this question already but I just need some clarity, donâ??t want to make any mistakes),

Sorry for double post, wouldnt let me edit

[burnable]

sensi star is a good indoor strain. if timing is an issue, find strains that have shorter flowering periods.

i have an hps 250 w over eight plants. this is enough because the grow cabinet is very small and the light is reflected very efficiently from the dull side of tin foil. I've never used cfl's but I have read that the more light the better and to keep the lamps within 2 inches of the foliage which requires a lot of daily adjusting. If they are growing in a bigger space, the light would radiate away and be wasted, so the smaller area the better, assuming you can get good ventilation.
I don't know if what I supplied here will be useful but there u have it

[Goldfinch]

Well I have a basic set up at least now, which as allot more than I had when this tread was started, I have a 20w cfl bulb (equivalent to 100w) One question I did have is it better to leave the plant under the cfl during daylight hours or just put it in some direct sunlight outside

[Nonsmoker420s Wife]

how many plants doesn't matter what matters is square footage 50 watts or more a square foot is ideal.so 400 watts 2 by 3 or a little bigger 600 watt 4 by 3 1000 watts 5 by 4.get th e idea?hopefullt that is some help.as far as a strain do you like stuck to the couch highs or active highs?afghani or romulan for the couch and thai or haze for active.thai and haze take about 3 to 4 weeks longer to mature so keep that in mind.maybe a mix like skunk or northern lights crossed with haze.both highly recomended.good luck and looking forward to seeing what you pick.:thumbsup:

[Goldfinch]

Some new updated pictures of my grow:-
http://www.badongo.com/pic/252175
http://www.badongo.com/pic/252176
http://www.badongo.com/pic/252177

Please tell me what you think, does it need anything new? Once again all help appreciated!

[Racerx]

For a good starter light, any 250 watt HPS will produce pretty good results. Hydrofarm makes a really simple integrated ballast for like $250 new. I found mine used for $75. As long as you have ample airflow heat shouldn't be that much of a concern.

But if your thinking of getting a 250, then as long as you can move the heat along, why not just get a 400? You can produce a good 6 healthy sized plants under a 400. I say Metal Halide is a complete waste of money unless you find an amazing deal on a switchable, and even then why? After youve seen people continuously harvest INSANE bud with straight HPS and get the prety much same results with MH...

[Goldfinch]

my plant is now about 16" high, think it ready for 12/12 light stage?

[Goldfinch]

How long does the plant have to stay in the 12/12 light stage before it starts to show its sex?

[Goldfinch]

Basically I have now but myself a grow box, its about 50" tall and 30" square. It has three cfl bulbs in there each 20 watts at the moment the plant is propped up to be closer to the light, whatâ??s the best distance from the lights? I have measured my plant and it is now just less than 17". I thought that now would be the right time to change the light cycle to 12/12 how long does it take to show sex? Once the light cycle has changed how long approx to the harvest. Sorry for the multiple posts I have now condensed my questions into one post all help gre/app