View Full Version : Indica doing good. Sativas ... not so good. why? GK?
bob bobbinson
07-13-2006, 06:35 AM
Hey guys. I got 2 sativas 1 indica.
Indica doing good. But sativas have these tiny buds. Its almost like there is TOO much leaf. And buds are tiny.
These were grown under exact same conditions.
here are the pics. In the first pic, you can see the sativa next to the huge budded indica. Why is this?:confused:
Its been about 47 days into flower. give or take.
stoneybone
07-13-2006, 12:08 PM
Bob,
It may be the strains that you have chosen to grow since different strains will mature at different rates and we all know that the last couple of weeks of flowering show the greatest bud development.
For example, I can finish a bacth of good Northern Lights in about 6 weeks where Thai, Haze (or some other Sativa) might take as long as 10 weeks to finish.
Sativas do not seem great "cash croppers" unless you're growing 12 ft tall plants outside on a pot farm.
bob bobbinson
07-13-2006, 11:27 PM
stoneybone
Yeah, I used bag seed for my first grow. I just saved some good seeds from some good stuff. This is what I happened to get. And actually looking at it. I have 3 different strains.
The 2 sativas im perplexed about. I can tell the indica will be done in a few weeks. So im giving it some CHA-CHING. But seeing as I have no clue when the sativas will mature, im not sure if they should get CHA-CHING also. I do have some brown hairs on my sativas. looks to be about 30 percent or more brown.
Any ideas as to a nute schedule for these late bloomers? Im using foxfarms everything.
icebelowfreeze
Thx icebelowfreeze :} Its a 400w hps. switchable ballast. so they had MH in veg.
P.S. Do my sativas look small for their age?:confused: I mean bud development? two more weeks and it will be 60 days of flower.
sativas can go 10 weeks, indicas 6-8
stinkyattic
07-14-2006, 02:07 PM
You're going to see lighter, fluffier buds that take a lot longer to mature on a sativa, with higher leaf mass:bud mass ratio.
bob bobbinson
07-15-2006, 01:26 AM
Ah ok. So these look fine? I just didnt expect so much leaf.
But thx on the 10 week timer. I was wondering how much longer it might go.
Guess Ill keep looking at the trichomes. I think I need a better magnifiyer.
alpha kenny wun
07-15-2006, 04:25 AM
most growers with selling in mind tend to stay away from sativas because as you already see, they dont yield as much as indicas, but some people i know grow sativa varieties for there own stash, imo, the sativa highs are much better, so dont give up on the sativas, Im sure it will be worth the wait. :stoned:
bob bobbinson
07-15-2006, 06:15 PM
alpha kenny wun
Thx :} I wont give up. Although I honestly thought I messed up on those sativas. They just look pitiful compared to the indica.
Anyone got any pics of a fully developed or ripened sativa? I would love to see how it should look.
p.s. nice quotes u got there Alpha :dance:
Weed4Life
07-16-2006, 03:59 PM
Hey Bob- I was curious if you can tell me all the nutes/hormones you are using for your veg and your flowering and anything else you might be using so I know what I need to buy. also, are you following the feeding chart that fox farm gave you or what? I am growing 4 sativas and now I know I am going to have to top mine now because they are already getting tall. That sux that sativas arent good for much bud unless grown outside. I have sum seeds from Nirvana coming in 2 weeks or so and I wanted to have the proper nutes to grow sum Papaya and bubblicious. Hopefully I get a cool freebie mix.
Weed4Life
07-16-2006, 04:21 PM
Hey Bob- I was curious if you can tell me all the nutes/hormones you are using for your veg and your flowering and anything else you might be using so I know what I need to buy. also, are you following the feeding chart that fox farm gave you or what? I am growing 4 sativas and now I know I am going to have to top mine now because they are already getting tall. That sux that sativas arent good for much bud unless grown outside. I have sum seeds from Nirvana coming in 2 weeks or so and I wanted to have the proper nutes to grow sum Papaya and bubblicious. Hopefully I get a cool freebie mix.
bob bobbinson
07-17-2006, 03:17 AM
WEED4LIFE
Im using foxfarms grow big, tiger bloom, big bloom. Just got cha=ching. a bit late. but i got it. Also I have some superthrive. And some microbial stuff for roots.
Click the link in my signature below. I have all things listed i believe. and u can see them growing :}
I followed the chart mostly. cept I stopped adding veg nutes.after veg was done, and I didnt start my plants off using big bloom. I waited till they were in flowering. But I gave them all chart recommended doses of all.
Next grow, im thinking of following the chart to a tee.
Weed4Life
07-17-2006, 02:30 PM
Thanks bob. So thats all you useed and you followed the directions for feeding that came with the nutes? I think for my next grow(s) I will buy what you bought and work with professional stuff. What is the size of the pots they are in ? I know you repotted, but what size is the biggest pot you used? Thanks alot. I got a Indica outta sum bag seed and I think I am going to work on it so I can get sum bigger buds!!
bob bobbinson
07-17-2006, 09:53 PM
u need about 1 gallon per foot of plant.
so go from small cups. to a bit larger, to 1 gallon, 2 gallon, then final 3 gallon.
this way u will get more root mass.
Get first 3 nutes. and superthrive.
ph ur water.
get pro soil. foxfarms ocean forest.
p.s. ya, pretty much follow instructions. You can start with half doses if u want. then slowly increase them to full dosege if ur nervous. Just dont wanna burn em early on.
I actually didnt use any nutes untill 20th day. because the foxfarms ocean soil mix has many good veg nutes in them. but looking back... I think it would not have hurt to add some veg nutes. seeing as they reccommend it anyhow.
I would try it following instructions to the letter if I were u. I am gonna do that next grow.
Some people say that the chart is too high a strength nutes. but I didnt find that at all.
p.s. Honesly I think my pots are 2 gallons. Kinda small for my plants. And a noob mistake on my part. But they turned out good to me.
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