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beachguy in thongs
06-29-2006, 03:49 PM
What is the chemical makeup of low-grade Cannabis? Would something like "Texel Eco" be higher in CBN content?
Obviously, the THC/CBN ratio is higher in Haze than in Afghani. And, obviously, Haze will get you higher.
So, would Mexican schwag be higher in CBN content, thusly making, even, dirt weed 100% good for you?
I know, for a fact, that you should not hold in lower-grade Marijuana-smoke as lung (Freudian slip) as higher grade, I think, because of the tar difference.
My question would be: (Well, besides the third paragraph) Is all Weed perfectly good for you?
Oh, wait, I asked that. My question would be: (see 3rd paragraph)
AND
What else would be different ,besides the THC/CBN ratio, between the quality of buds?
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daima
06-29-2006, 04:33 PM
Umm possibly taste, smell, texture, size.
Anything you smoke is gonna mess with your lungs.
I wish I could find some PURE THC.
I have had THC extracted via butane. This just has to be as pure as it gets.
It melted like wax, and the brains reaction was immediate:thumbsup:
Since butane is highly flamable/explosive, i prefer using bubblebags.
You are also right when you say that any smoke will have an effect on the lungs. However, some lung irritants cause permanent damage, like tobacco smoke and many forms of air pollution. Cannabis smoke however only effects the small airways of the lungs and and does not cause long term permanent damage. Many Marathon runners will use cannabis as a lung expectorant to clean their lungs of air pollution, dust, phlegm, etc etc.
I am very thankful that i never have to smokem anything but high quality cannabis/cannabis extracts.
dai*ma:stoned: sfca94110
wordddddd
06-29-2006, 04:41 PM
beachguy, you are eloquent. you speak gallantly and you have subsequently gone up in my book.
PLUS, you have shown me WHY my teachers always cross out the -ly on "thusly" when i write it in my essays. thank you.
on the topic of the thread....
1) whats CBN? Cannabinoids?
2) I think the difference between shitty and good weed is basically what you said. The higher quality marijuana strands dedicate more of their energy to efficiently produce more THC and thus (NOT THUSLY), are more potent. Lower quality buds on the other hand do not produce as much THC with the energy that has been alotted to their buds, and in turn create more vascular cells, reproductive cells (seeds), etc. that when smoked, is obviously not THC and does not get you high, but merely is considered "tar" when burned. It is excess plant material that does not get you high basically and, I think, has to do with genetic efficiency differences in THC production.
beachguy in thongs
06-29-2006, 05:34 PM
I Cannabis smoke however only effects the small airways of the lungs and and does not cause long term permanent damage. Many Marathon runners will use cannabis as a lung expectorant to clean their lungs of air pollution, dust, phlegm, etc etc.
I am very thankful that i never have to smokem anything but high quality cannabis/cannabis extracts.
dai*ma:stoned: sfca94110
I heard the opposite. That cannabis smoke only affects the large part of your lungs, where it easily passes through to the bloodstream, and doesn't affect the small bronchial passages, where you get bronchitis and other respiratory diseases.
This was done in 1981, but I've seen recent documentation where I got those exact words (cannabis smoke only affects the large part of your lungs, where it easily passes through to the bloodstream, and doesn't affect the small bronchial passages, where you get bronchitis and other respiratory diseases.)
There are many studies at http://www.ukcia.org , this one http://www.ukcia.org/research/medline/1.htm contains studies from 1981 to 1997.
Abstract
Bronchial challenge with histamine was used to assess bronchial reactivity in asymptomatic individuals who were long-term social smokers of marijuana. Their reactivity was compared to that of nonsmokers and asthmatics. Spirometry results were normal in the marijuana users. There was no significant difference in bronchial reactivity between marijuana smokers and nonsmoking controls, whereas the asthmatics demonstrated the expected hyperreactivity. These observations suggest that customary social use of marijuana may not produce abnormalities in airway function detectable by spirometry or bronchoprovocation.
beachguy in thongs
06-29-2006, 05:39 PM
1) whats CBN? Cannabinoids?
2) I think the difference between shitty and good weed is basically what you said. The higher quality marijuana strands dedicate more of their energy to efficiently produce more THC and thus (NOT THUSLY), are more potent. Lower quality buds on the other hand do not produce as much THC with the energy that has been alotted to their buds, and in turn create more vascular cells, reproductive cells (seeds), etc. that when smoked, is obviously not THC and does not get you high, but merely is considered "tar" when burned. It is excess plant material that does not get you high basically and, I think, has to do with genetic efficiency differences in THC production.
Oh, thanks. :smokin:
CBN is Cannabiniol, a non-psychoactive cannabinoid, which targets your immune system.
Also, due to air-oxidation and light, I remember hearing something, like, the THC degrades to CBN. I'm not sure.
P.S. You can tell your teachers that, in regards to "thusly", I didn't want to use any extra words and "thusly" was compact.
but if that was the case then exhaling/inhaling through the nose would have no added benefits...
daima
06-29-2006, 06:20 PM
I heard the opposite. That cannabis smoke only affects the large part of your lungs, where it easily passes through to the bloodstream, and doesn't affect the small bronchial passages, where you get bronchitis and other respiratory diseases.
This was done in 1981, but I've seen recent documentation where I got those exact words (cannabis smoke only affects the large part of your lungs, where it easily passes through to the bloodstream, and doesn't affect the small bronchial passages, where you get bronchitis and other respiratory diseases.)
There are many studies at http://www.ukcia.org , this one http://www.ukcia.org/research/medline/1.htm contains studies from 1981 to 1997.
MMMM i read information that was written by Doctor Tashkins, of UCLA, America's foremost expert on Marijuana Smoke.
He did find Marijuana to be more of an irritant(by 15 times)than tobacco, however since tobacco has almost no effect on this area, 15 x's nothing is still nothing.
What most people dont realise i, nor are the media told, that any tissue abnormality (abrasion, eruption,, or even redness) is called a pre cancerous lesion. Unlike legions cause by tobacco, THC legions contain no radioactivity.
Many herbs, including cannabis, have been smoked for centuries to help the lungs. It isnt Tar that causes the ill health effects from the tobacco itself, it is the farming practices. Tobacco, unlike cannabis, is grown in Radioactive soil and is largely fed through the foliage with growth hormones.
Cannabis is not grown in radioactive soil, nor is it generally fed through the leaves with growth hormones, which is why we dont see 430,000 deaths from cannabis every year, like we do tobacco....according the USA Former US Surgeon General C.Everette Koop(Reagan Era)
-Dr. Tashkin, UCLA Pulmonary Studies 1969-97
What does "ukcia", mean?
dai*ma:stoned: sfca94110
beachguy in thongs
06-29-2006, 07:09 PM
You don't check out links that other people provide, do you?
UK Cannabis Internet Activists
The Website of the British Legalise Cannabis Campaigns
daima
06-29-2006, 10:58 PM
You don't check out links that other people provide, do you?
Yes, i do check out all the information i can. Many times for me to make my decison is i base it on who funds the study and what connections they have to political forces, corporate forces, and those who make their money off the war on drugs,(partnership for a drug free america etc etc) etc etc.
Thats why i asked what "ukcia" stood for.
In America, it was president G. Ford who stopped all funding that shows the positive effects of cannabis, they would only fund studies that would find what they wanted them to find.
The funny thing is that prior to that it was President Nixon who asked for a study to be completed to show us once and for all the horrible dangers of cannabis, and cannabis on our society, including our youth. He had the study done by his administration and the study concluded that cannabis penalties should be removed, cannabis laws be changed, and that cannnabis posed no threat to our kids, our heath, and our society. Nixon was outraged and demanded that the study be done again, but only to make sure that they get it "right" this time.. I believe it was the Shaffer commision, or the Warren Commision. let me check to be sure.
Does cannabis irritate the lungs? yep
Cause lung cancer? no reports of it here in america. Not one sinlge case of lung cancer reported in a person who only used cannabis, no tobacco.
The resperatory problems they say would be there, are there, and will be there in the future, just arent panning-out.
I am 50 and we were told in the 60's that by the time the year 2000 came that our clinics would be full of people with lung cancer, brochitis,emphysema, and other illness. They said that tens and tens of thousands of people would be lining the streets trying to get into the clinics.
Never Happened.
Now, could it happen>? i suppose. I suppose that if the government gets their way and starts to spray this crop once again, like they tried with Paraquat in the 70's, but stopped after public outrage, that people who only smoke cannabis will end up in clinics with lung infections.
Right now i will speak for myself.
50 years old
Never used tobacco, or smoked crack, meth, heroin, etc etc.
I have used cannabis since my early teen years, but daily since 1991, and never a day missed.
I played music for a living.
I have always exercised and have a 2nd degree Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do.
I run practically daily,ride my bike, go to the gym, and i have no cough. My MD says my lungs are as healthy as could possibly ever be, and that he could never tell by looking at my x-rays that i smoke anything. There is zero evidence in my health, skin, hair, motivation, etc etc that cannabis is having a negative, or ever has had a negative effect on me.(except for being arrested and having my health threatened by being thown in a dirty cage with violent people and a substandard diet).
I am positive that governements and their associates print all kinds of stuff.
I just choose to believe what makes sense to me.
36 years of cannabis use and alls well.
Raised two kids on my own after my wife died in 1989
Participating in raising a grand kid.
I do know that smoking pot leads to acts of violence. I saw this guy smoking a joint and these two cops caught him and started to beat him up.:D
dai*ma :stoned: sfca94110
beachguy in thongs
06-30-2006, 04:22 AM
daima, you sound a lot like Dr. Robert Melamede.
"That's not to say smoking marijuana is good," Melamede noted. It is a lung irritant and can cause respiratory problems, such as coughing. Also, it is full of carcinogens, so "even if it's not causing cancer, it's having negative effects," he said.
Wait, I just noticed that he didn't say that. The editors of cannabisnews.com must have stuck that there.
mattdestruction
06-30-2006, 04:01 PM
The verdict is still out on CBN. At first (as far as I know) people assumed strong cannabis was just weed with lots of THC, but they're now finding that CBN and THC act together to create unique psychoactive affects. Indicas generally have more THC to CBN, causing the stony couchlock high associated with the likes of White Widow and Afghani. However, sativas, like haze, have a higher CBN to THC count, which may be why people say sativas are "trippier" with some visual affects occuring (I've only experienced "heat-wave" visuals once from weed though).
beachguy in thongs
07-01-2006, 03:57 PM
The verdict is still out on CBN. At first (as far as I know) people assumed strong cannabis was just weed with lots of THC, but they're now finding that CBN and THC act together to create unique psychoactive affects. Indicas generally have more THC to CBN, causing the stony couchlock high associated with the likes of White Widow and Afghani. However, sativas, like haze, have a higher CBN to THC count, which may be why people say sativas are "trippier" with some visual affects occuring (I've only experienced "heat-wave" visuals once from weed though).
What???
The THC/CBD content is higher in most Sativas. The "body high" of the indicas is from the CBD working on your immune system, or, your CB2 receptors.
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