White Rhino growdiary - 250w HPS. Lets keep this nice and simple...

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Hopefully this will be a successful grow, and show people just how easy it is to grow a decent strain. Sure you can go for Lowryders and their '60 day from start to finish', but why do that when they actually take 90 days? And guess what... you can grow a 'proper' strain in 90-100 days from start til finish. So, lets start!
Rhino is currently 10 days old, and had a little bit of stretching due to being under a HPS as opposed to a MH bulb. Im just too cheap to buy a seperate ballast and bulb :o
When she goes into flowering, she WILL NOT be getting all these fancy nutes. Sure they work, but I wanna show people what yield you can get from keeping things simple.
A litre of tomato feed (5-5-10) will set you back £3.
A couple of plastic pots will cost around £2 tops (one small, one large) for both.
A bag of perlite can be found for under a fiver.
Water - straight from the tap, Brita filtered. Removes impurities :cool:
5 metres of mylar costs a tenner.
Decent soil - B&Q potting mix with John Innes compost with added vermiculite will nab £5 out of yer wallet.
250w Lamp, ballast, relay, timer and reflector can cost anywhere from £90 second hand to £200 brand new.
A pack of White Rhino seeds can be bought from www.everyonedoesit.com for a tenner.

Watching it all grow - priceless :D
But seriously, all this should set you back around £160. It might seem like a lot at first, but even when you work out the leccy costs at 8p per Kilowatt Hour (thats what it is for us anyway), its a little under £160 a year. It costs me £120 to buy an ounce - and with good care and attention, you should be yielding 2 ounces per plant under this setup. Now get a 1000w cooltube and some decent intake and exhaust... now yer talkin! :thumbsup:

[busteruk7]

niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
good luck with this grow m8
i will be following this till the end keep us posted with updates too m8
cheers all :)

[busteruk7]

nice choice of film too m8
the business
proper brilliant i could watch that over and over again
cheers all :)

[mand]

Hello Tom :), I always grow as simple as possible ;)



Good luck .......... love mand xx:)

[sjacobs713]

Tom-
those plants are 10 days old?
are they from seed, or clones?
they look huge, compared to my 14 day old ladies...??
anways, good luck will definately keep up w/ this thread..

slim

[LIP]

It's all looking good so far, and HPS is better than people think in effciency in veg growth.

I think this will be a very nice log to read up in.

Good luck man :)

My lowryders only got 3 weeks left, looking very nice ;)

[Tom Swierzbinski]

10 days old and from seed. It only looks so big because its stretched a little, although I prefer them looking a little stretched. Makes them look bigger :)

Yep, The Business is a good film. :thumbsup: Might watch it again later, only seen it once. Ooh, Ive also just tried some White Rhino - apparently its making its way around Kettering, and I bought a half ounce last week (about to buy another half if I can get it tonight hehe). Wasnt sure if it was or not until I smelt the Rhino - shes already starting to give off a slight whiff, and it smells exactly like the bud I bought the other week. Was bloody strong stuff aswell, not as strong as I was expecting but still very nice. Had quite an uplifting effect on me aswell, I thought this was 80% indica? Oh well, I do like my sativas :D

Mand, is doing it simple the best way to grow or is it the lazy way? Hehe :p

Oh and LIP, I dunno if youve checked my updates on the Lowryder grow, but these DEFINATELY take longer than the 60 days on the packet. Been reading a few other LowGrows and everyone has said that they take between 80 and 100 days :(
Also, Im POSITIVE that Mary got pollinated, but I squished 3 calyxes on different parts of the plant and NONE have got seeds in. Looks like the free seed handout may not be going ahead... and I have no more seeds left now :o
Heres hoping for one of the 3 Lowryders to be a male again...

Jacobs, what light are you using? They will grow faster and yield more under a HPS, even more with using a MH and HPS combined, but with CFL's yield is reduced, although not by much. As with everything in life, you pay for what you get. I might do a CFL grow on a few Lowryders in the summer (and plant a few in garden aswell :p ) just to see if theres any difference in growing Lows outside, under CFL's or under a HPS.

[LIP]

Ahhh damn it lol. 100 days? How many weeks is that?

100/ 7 is oh damn i dont know., Oh well, i'll still get a nice harvest of low :)

Goodluck man.

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Ahhh damn it lol. 100 days? How many weeks is that?

100/ 7 is oh damn i dont know., Oh well, i'll still get a nice harvest of low :)

Goodluck man.

Cheers, Ill probably need it. Something always goes wrong with my grows - usually, I get impatient and end up 'accidentally' snapping off small branches and smoking them :o
Ive heard conflicting reports on the THC content of Lowryder. Some go as low as 5%, whilst others go as high as 12%. I suppose it isnt a very stabilized strain as far as potency go...

[LIP]

Interesting, well, im 5 weeks and 1 day from seed and the pistilles are all over it, the first buds are here and the trichomes are also all over the little buds and all over the very smell leaves that come out of the main cola.

It's looking quite nice at the moment, cant wait to see what it looks likes in 2 weeks lol.

[MegaOctane12]

Let me get this straight you grew that plant in the picture from seed ( which you germinated ) so your saying that from germination ten days on that is your plant? I don't believe that one bit. Have I misunderstood.

[LIP]

Let me get this straight you grew that plant in the picture from seed ( which you germinated ) so your saying that from germination ten days on that is your plant? I don't believe that one bit. Have I misunderstood.

Do you/can you grow?

If you can grow then im sorry, it was obviously a joke.

If you cant grow then learn about the plant before making stupid comments.

Of course a plant can grow that much in just 10 days. Any plant, given the right conditions can grow that quick.

Dont be so fast to say somethings dodgy if you dont understand.

[The Grim Reefer]

Someone needs to do some reading. :D

[MegaOctane12]

I've never seen a plant grow that fast in ten days from seed.

[LIP]

In the right condition's plants have been known to grow 6 inches in a day.

This is what i read of a site, ive never had a plant grow that fast lol.

Basically, most strains areslow growing in the first 2 weeks because they are getting their root systems up and going, but this one seems to be more interested in growth upwards.

Some strains are just like that.

[MegaOctane12]

That's what I was going to say, maybe growth like that in vegetative but from seed I thought it was bullshit from the offset and still i'm not sure but there's alot I haven't seen and 6inch or so plants in ten days is one of them. Regardless of that, nice thread.

[Tom Swierzbinski]

I assure you - the White Rhino is 10 days from seed. Maybe you think it looks big, but remember its under a HPS and not a MH, so there will be a little stretching due to the red spectrum. Hopefully now shes grown towards the light a bit more she'll stop stretching. Anyway, Im flowering her when she reaches 14 inches as I dont want her to smell that badly.
This will also show people how much yield you can get off a plant thats a little over a foot tall. I for one have no idea, also Im a bit short on space so I want her short and bushy.
Anyway, nothings changed apart from a bit more growth on the nodes so I wont bother putting a pic up right now.

[mand]

[QUOTE=Tom Swierzbinski]


Mand, is doing it simple the best way to grow or is it the lazy way? Hehe :p

QUOTE]

I like that Tom :), Well I'm all for doing something the lazy way, there's no doubt about that :o

Also the fewer elements involved in the equation of growing, the less there is to go wrong ;)

Hey I just read that last sentence back and it sounds really technical :)


love mand xxx :)

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Looks like some sort of bug or leaf deficiency. Anyone care to enlighten me?



Pretty please? :o
Its day 14 now by the way. Just stuck her out on the windowsill today to enjoy some natural light. Hoping to start flowering in another month. Just depends how the other lowryders go... if you have a look at my Lowryder diary, youll see that theyre not doing too well. Its not my fault, honest! Actually, it isnt. Theyre becoming deformed because of the soil Ive used. No, not MG soil. John Innes potting compost. Ah, a word of wisdom -

IF YOU GROW LOWRYDERS, DO NOT USE JOHN INNES POTTING COMPOST!!!
White Rhino seems to love it though. On the bag it says not to use with acid loving/lime hating plants, so maybe Lowryders prefer more of an acidic environment? Hmm, time to start experimenting with lemon juice now... :p
By the way, theres also a piccy of my fat cat Chloe, who seems to have prefer Rhino over Lowryder.

Edit: aww Mand, now whenever I read your posts I dont get to look at your pretty face... :(

[KEGS]

nice looking grow good luck with that

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Cheers. That problem on the leaves (which I thought was bugs) has been sorted out now. I read about homemade recipes for bugkillers, and I used one. What I did was stick half a dozen smoked cigarettes in 300ml of water overnight in a warm place, then use that as a foliar spray and spray the leaves. Kills the bugs, saves the plant.

[Jdog7000]

Get that fuckin cat away from it. Thats why you got bugs.
Wow, that was a tough one. lol

[Fear the Reefer]

dude your cat is huge, mabye u shud give your plant some of whatever cat food u feed her, anyway nice grow i look forward to watching this one, its a bit simpler than others lol

[Legalizdahurb]

Looking good Tom is that the seed u got off Buster.

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Yep, its the seed that Buster sent me. Im hoping that it turns out female, but if its male then Ill just pollinate a Lowryder with it and see how it turns out. If its a female, then Ill either pollinate a single branch or just let her grow sensi - thats if she doesnt turn hermie.
Could someone please tell me if this is a bug problem or a NPK deficiency? Getting paid tomorrow so Ill be able to buy some ferts or neem oil, depending which it is.
And can cats really carry bugs in? Fat Cat Chloe is always washing herself anyway. Well, it seems like shes always washing herself, the reality is that it takes her hours because shes so fat.

[Legalizdahurb]

Nice that means its from the same batch as my Whie Rhino, and the 2 me and buster planted turned out female so fingers crossed for you m8. If you cat goes outside it could pick up a few bugs, and it only takes a few bugs unchecked and eventually u will be infested, I think i have almost killed all the fungus gnats i had but it taken a while because they can repopulate fast.
As for the plant i think its nutes but i am not sure i would wait for some 1 who had done a few more grows before u decide what 2 buy.
This is a good page for leaf probs i found in a post somewhere.
http://www.geocities.com/nutrientproblems/

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Cheers for that link Legalize, seen that page before but never found it again. Its now safe in my favourites folder :)
Looks like either a Phosphorus or Magnesium deficiency. Ive watered with a VERY light solution of 15-30-15 and some epsom salts, so now we just wait and see.

[busteruk7]

hows the white rhino coming along m8
mine is coming along nicely its nearly 5 weeks into flowering and is looking very nice indeed as legal said fingers crossed for yours turning female
let us know m8
cheers all :)

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Well Buster, you wanted an update :)

Aah, big IS beautiful!
Shame its a male though... especially with all those budsites! :(
Ive learnt at least one... no, two... lessons from this.
1. DO NOT USE ANY PRODUCT THAT HAS 'MIRACLE-GRO' ON THE LABEL. THEIR FERTS ARE DAMN STRONG.
2. No matter what the weather is outside, dont take your plants out for the day to get some 'natural' light and some fresh air. Outside brings bugs, and bugs are bad. If you really wanna give them some natural light, stick them on the windowsill for a few hours. If you want the window open, get some form of net and stick that over the open window so it can still get a breeze and fresh air, without any bugs getting in.

Now, to soften the blow of having a male plant, Im going to go plant a load of Lowryders in the garden.

Edit: Buster, at least you didnt give away a 'decent' seed! :dance:

[Jdog7000]

Why are you growing a male?

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Im not growing a male anymore :) Just germinating about 7 lowryders and 3 white widows at the moment. Lord knows how Im gonna fit them all in my cabinet though. I suppose Ill stick the Lows on the windowsill, then put them outside after a week or so.

[greengiant1980]

sorry a bout this, its completly off topic but does yous cat try to eat your plants
because mine just ate a whole batch of cuttings!!!!

[Tom Swierzbinski]

Nope, she likes sniffing them and rubbing her face in them, but shes never eaten them. Although she did knock (and kill) a Lowryder once... luckily it was well into the flowering stage by then.