The Dangers of milk and dairy what you didnt know

[Ganjasaurusrex]

If you live in the United States and consume milk, cheese, butter and icecream then this affects you.

In 1950 the average dairy cow was producing 2000lbs. of milk per year. Today the average dairy cow is producing 20,000lbs. per year with top producers reaching the 40,000lb/year mark.

How was this accomplished? By the use of rBGH, (recombinant bovine growth hormone). This chemical was developed by the chemical giant, Monsanto, the same company who developed DDT, agent orange and round-up weed killer among many.

In 1989 when Monsanto reached the approval process in congress they had to demonstrate the test results on animals, (rats in this case), It was never tested on humans and the long term health consequences were unknown.
When asked to submit the rat report they refused to present it to the FDA.
When asked of the health effects to the public it was stated the health effects were "manageable". Keep in mind cancer and other diseases are "manageable". Since two former execs of Monsanto sat on the board of the FDA it was relatively easy to green light this substance through.

Dont think for a second that the FDA, (food and drug administration) is there to keep you safe. I personally can no longer tell the difference between a Government entity and a corporation. The FDA seems to be comprised of ex industry officials that are heavily influenced by power positions or money from lobbyists within the industry.

When Monsanto tried to get rBGH approved in Canada the "rat report" had been stolen and leaked. They saw just how bad this stuff was and denied its use in Canada. All Euro nations have banned its use and the only countries that use it are the United States, Mexico and Brasil. It is used extensively in the United states. In fact it was just announced in March of 2006 that Monsanto would be ramping up production of rBGH.

So what about rBGH?

Well the problems are many.

rBGH was bioengineered using the E-Coli bacteria and the amino acid, Methithionine spliced into it. When injected into the cow it causes the cows pituitary gland of the brain to enlarge abnormally. Many times the cows udders become so big that the cow cant get off the ground.

It is well known in the commercial dairy industry that cows injected with rBGH will develope "mastitis". This is chronic infections of the udder. The hooves are also infected as well.

To combat this infection problem the average cow will recieve up to 200 antibiotic shots in its lifetime with up to 52 different types of antibiotics, some of these antibiotics are illegal for use and are not monitored by anyone.
What happens to the antibiotics when the reach your milk? Homogenization does nothing to stop these residues from accumulating in your liver.

Brilliant!

AS a result of chronic infections the cows body produces somatic cells in the udder, (pus cells).

When the commercial dairys couldnt stay below the maximum allowable count for bacteria and pus cells the FDA simply raised the allowable amount instead of making the dairies conform to protect the public.

This is a good example of a how much power corporations hold over our Government which should be a non-influenced entity that is seperate and biased toward the health of the public. Supreme court Justice Clarence Thomas was the attorney for Monsanto at the time of the approval process.
Thats how you go from attorney to Supreme Court Justice.

So why doesnt the public know about this. Well Monsanto threatens, bullies and sues any dairy that labels its milk "rBGH free". In effect by doing so sends a strong message that they DONT want you to know whats in it.
They have also changed the laws in a handful of states to quench free speech about informing the public about the issue.

So just what is "allowed" by the FDA to be in your milk?

1 cup=

4,731,600 live bacteria
177,441,150 pus cells

And you thought homongenization meant clean. lol

The residue of rBGH.
The residue of the 52 antibiotics.
Vitamin d-3 primarily extracted from pigs skin and sold to dairies.

Probably the worst thing due to the rBGH injections is the skyrocketing amount of IGF-1, (insulin growth factor). It is 10 times higher in the milk after the injections due to manipulating the pituitary gland of the cow.
IGF-1 is a precursor to breast, colon and prostate cancer and acts like a fuel cell for these cancers. That is a well known fact in the medical world.
IGF-1 is implicated in being the "trigger" that starts diabetes as it spikes insulin after consumption.

In breast cancer among women, high levels of estrogen are always found. The reason is that during milk collection these cows are milked regardless of whether they are pregnant or not. During a cow's pregnancy this estrogen loaded milk is collected.

Milk is batch mixed regionally in large containers so it all ends up the same with the same substances contaminating even the organic milk mixed from other dairies.

Aside from the the rBGH use the milk is still loaded with up to 59 types of active hormones with a chemical message that acts on the human body, these are active until processed and eliminated by the human liver.

The fat cells from rBGH milk is an altered form of fat, it is in effect more fatty than non-rBGH milk. This should explain the obesity problem in the United States as it is now 1 in 4 Americans are obese.

Many times these cows are so stressed from continually giving milk year round, very unnatural for the animal, and the scores of hormones to manipulate birthing cycles, abortions, etc, that the cows become diseased to the point it cant stand up. 40 percent of the meat supply comes from cows in the dairy industry. Alot of these cows are "downers" sick and diseased.

Milk is a very unhealthy substance. Despite the industry lies that you need it for strong bones due calcium is simply not true. Calcium can only be absorbed with its partner magnesium. Magnesium is so very low in cows milk that you can only absorb about 11%. Your best source for calcium is dark green vegetables. Just look at a 1200lb steer. Where did those big bones come from? Green vegetation with minerals from the soil.

Who made up this "food pyramid" in the United States? Industry lobbyists.
To say that milk is essential to your survival is a flat out lie.

Butter, icecream, and cheese are more so concentrated with the things I mentioned because it takes 10 times the amount of milk to make these derrivative products. Therefore these substances are even more concentrated in these residues.

To learn all about this issue and why it was to be kept secret from the public please read:

www.organicconsumers.org/rbghlink.html

On this site you can find the most information about this topic as well as find an organic meat supplier in your area by entering in your zip code.
My advice would be to anyone to discontinue dairy and derrivatives. Yet to maintain a protien source consume meat or chicken which is certified organic antibiotic free, growth hormone free and free range fed.


Also visit:

use search box for this one:

rense milk (the dangers of milk and dairy: the facts)

There are three articles attached which should inform you of what you are really consuming and the diseases associated with rBGH and milk itself.




Take care.

[acrca]

Ya i already knew that, thats why i always check the label to make sure it doesnt have rBGH.

You all should do the same

[Tmar.aLL.DaYmar]

yeh u guys didnt know that? cows utters arent naturally that huge. they are given steroids so that their body continues to think they're pregnant and produce more milk.

so next time you say that you dont approve of commercial cow milking, and your smartass friend says "your doing the cow a favor by milking it, they're in pain if you dont" then you say "fuck u dumbass, maybe if their pumped full of steriods. in nature cows only need to be milked when their pregnant."

ps. if you drink milk bc its healthy for you, then dont buy it in clear containers. The vitamins in milk are photosensative, and if their exposed to light then they become useless.

[paperlunatic]

If you live in the United States and consume milk, cheese, butter and icecream then this affects you.


nice post !:thumbsup: i actualy read it all.. im so proud.:dance:
really makes you think about what you ate today tho... ew

[paperlunatic]

ps. if you drink milk bc its healthy for you, then dont buy it in clear containers. The vitamins in milk are photosensative, and if their exposed to light then they become useless.

damn, i gotta tell this to my dad's gf.. she drinks milk at every meal. in-order to stay healthy! ..she also buys the glass containers, lol.

poor cows.. ive always said save the cows, but no one cares about the poor cows but me.....:o

[Eshelmen]

those cows tits have got to be screaming for mercy

[Breukelen advocaat]

I switched to goats' milk, and I only use that for coffee, so I go through about one quart a week It tastes just as good as cow milk, and is heathier. In fact, goat milk is consumed by more people in the world than cows'. It's more expensive.

I also use Vances DariFree, which is a milk substitute made from potao. It's fat fee, cholesterol, lactose and gluten free, and an all-around better choice than dairy - and cheaper, too.
http://www.vancesfoods.com/originaltest.html

[halo]

Isn't that also why so many children are entering puberty at earlier ages? Like i remember there was this girl in 3rd grade when i was a kid and she had boobs. And not cause she was fat. She also drank a lot of milk. Thank you for informing me of this.

[CocaCola]

A government is only there is support itself.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Isn't that also why so many children are entering puberty at earlier ages? Like i remember there was this girl in 3rd grade when i was a kid and she had boobs. And not cause she was fat. She also drank a lot of milk. Thank you for informing me of this.


Thats correct. Glad you brought up that point of girls maturing at a younger age.

It is due to the high amount of growth hormones in milk, dairy derrivatives and meat. These residues are active and unchanged in the homongenization process. Ive noticed the same thing in society long before I stumbled across these articles and wondered about that myself.

These hormones and antibiotic residues are very harmful. When a Doctor cant stop an infection with 1st, 2nd, and thrid generation antibiotics it tells me that the person is already desensitized by the antibiotic through consuming it in the milk and dairy along with the pathogens as they mutate rapidy. This why commercial dairies using rBGH have to use so many antibiotics is due to mutating pathogens. Illegal antibiotics have no place in what we consume.

Bottom line this is all about money. production units per cow. Thats all they care about. Not your health not mine.

[thepope]

How about we ALL buy organic milk then, sure its $1.50 more, but we'll know its healthier and better for the cows.

Thats how things change.

[Delta.9]

Great post! Thanks for all of the info!

[dog420]

Its not going to kill you.....

[HiddenBeauty]

Its not going to kill you.....

The stress and worry will kill them all first.

I personally can't drink alot of milk as it gives me a belly ache but too much of everything is bad for you.

[CocaCola]

Think generations from now after we've been consuming all this shit in our food? What's it gonna be like for us? It's gonna catch up with us and we'll have more mutation... so far that's been the way we live for a while now... not evolving but mutating.

[slipknotpsycho]

... i didn't read all that, but i've done quite the research on milk. see i had heard, from a repubitible source that milk (the kind we buy in jugs at stores namely) contains pus, and blood... my wife didn't believe me when i told her it did, so i sought to find the proof.

i was actually shocked, not at the fact that that it's not only present, or how much is actually present, but by how much is actually 'wrong' with milk, i still like it and still drink it, but i tell you i couldn't drink milk without wanting to vomit after all i found out that night.

[HiddenBeauty]

Think generations from now after we've been consuming all this shit in our food? What's it gonna be like for us? It's gonna catch up with us and we'll have more mutation... so far that's been the way we live for a while now... not evolving but mutating.

Some people say that the change in our diet is a bad thing because we are all living longer so that will eventually lead to us literally living up each others backsides.

[God v2.0]

damn, everyone needs to quit bitching and shut the hell up, you are all going to die, and soon. The air you're breathing right now is extremely carcinogenic. car exauhst has a nasty little chemical in it called benzene, now benzene is EXTREMELY carcinogenic at the microgram, its also in every breath you take thanks to henry ford! or whoever the hell thought up the internal combustion engine.



so rest easy. because there is nothing you can do about it. you are going to die.

[HiddenBeauty]

damn, everyone needs to quit bitching and shut the hell up, you are all going to die, and soon. The air you're breathing right now is extremely carcinogenic. car exauhst has a nasty little chemical in it called benzene, now benzene is EXTREMELY carcinogenic at the microgram, its also in every breath you take thanks to henry ford! or whoever the hell thought up the internal combustion engine.



so rest easy. because there is nothing you can do about it. you are going to die.

Chill man :smokin:

[God v2.0]

lol im just saying that death is inevitable, so you dont need to nitpick what minor chemicals they put in your milk! there are bigger things to worry about....like WHEN WILL THEY MAKE MORE FUTURAMA EPISODES.

Pretty soon I'm gonna have to email matt groening, think an email from god himself would work?

[CocaCola]

Well, there is nothing you can do about any of that now... people don't know about the zillions of different shit they are putting into us unknowingly, without us even knowing.

[God v2.0]

hah the pharmasutical companies are getting away with alot of shit no doubt, they have the FDA under their thumbs as well.

[CocaCola]

It's just the not knowing that bugs me... cause then how could people decide? If they knew that what they were putting into their bodies was dangerous and continued on anyways (Like ciggarettes in the 50s) then I wouldn't care what they do.

[Cannabis.com]

Commercial food production tends to be a "dirty" business in regards to production practices...

On the other hand, large commercial production has led to more food availability, and safer food in some respects.

To be clear, in my view, Monsanto is an evil company for sure ... but on the other-hand, if it's any consulation, the CEOs and their rich friends eat much of what the company helps to produce ... so if it's harmful, the bigshot executives and their families, etc are likely going to be done in too LOL!

The scientists who actually develop the additives, growth hormones, etc are likely among those who may choose to take steps to mitigate their exposure by reading product labels, buying "organic", etc ... again, the typical bigshot executive, especially of companies like Monsanto, Exxon-Mobil, just eats whatever with not a care in the world ... so in the end it will even out, if the stuff really is that bad.

In regards to the air ... oxygen is more harmful than most anything else typically found in the air these days in respect to the human body. A related molecule that does great damage is ozone - it's supposedly a good thing high in the atmosphere, but is very bad to human health at ground-level.

On another, but related topic, studies have shown that low-level exposure to some toxins, including some forms of radiation (don't recall the exact term, but sure someone can do a wiki on it) can actually be healthy! Seriously.

When it comes to various chemicals, such as some hormones, the result isn't always obvious ... relatively large exposures may have little to no effect where as lower levels of exposure may have a profound effect.

The leading theory on early puberty is that hormone exposure may be having some effect, but the main reason is better nutrietion; food may be full of added chemicals, etc, but it's also full of all sorts of artificially added essential vitamins and minerals that people in the distant past often didn't get enough of - more nutrients will tend to lead to better, larger growth; ask any gardener LOL!

Anyways, if mass-production food, etc is so bad, then why was the number of deaths in the U.S. the lowest recorded in many years ... and the average age people die at continues to go up - it's in the high 70s now in the U.S.

What people should worry about first way before food additives, growth hormones, etc in food are those common hazards that injure and kill many people every year ...

Falls / stairs, electricution, not wearing seatbelts, cigarette smoking, lit candles causing fire, pressure cookers, etc ... the list of common everyday hazards is amazingly long - those are the ones people should focus on before worrying about 1 in a zillion hazards; being aware of them is fine, but one should prioritize - life is all about managing risk and the level one is willing to accept ... only way to be 100% safe is to be 100% dead; we're all going to end up there anyways so one might as well enjoy life while practicing moderation in their activities - many of the longest living people eat mediocre diets, but have a good attitude on life and live everyday to the fullest.

Ron

[NZ Ganja Smoker]

:rasta: Um Milk? , ive heard alot of shit about milk man. but in nz i dont think there is a big issue with it. like i totaly ddnt get the label thing?.

so live in nz and dont worry about the milk! :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: world peace watever way.

[slipknotpsycho]

Falls / stairs, electricution, not wearing seatbelts, cigarette smoking, lit candles causing fire, pressure cookers, etc ... the list of common everyday hazards is amazingly long - those are the ones people should focus on before worrying about 1 in a zillion hazards; being aware of them is fine, but one should prioritize - life is all about managing risk and the level one is willing to accept ... only way to be 100% safe is to be 100% dead; we're all going to end up there anyways so one might as well enjoy life while practicing moderation in their activities - many of the longest living people eat mediocre diets, but have a good attitude on life and live everyday to the fullest.

Ron


before i read the bolded line i was going to say:
alot of hazzards we have, could only be gotten rid of, by just living like cavemen or something, i mean, as long as we have appliances and electricity, there will always be electricution. as long as there are commercially (and more than likely even if it weren't commercially) sold tobacco products, there's always going to be people using them, so there's always going to be people dying from them.

there is no way we could make the world safe, they try but there is no way to even fully 100% protect one person, let alone millions and billions... i really don't think anyone should be able to illegalize anything, i mean all it does, is promote more crime. how can they look at one 'drug' that is nothing more then plant matter, not chemicals or anything added, and say that it's bad because someone killed themselves with it. yet, tobacco kills thousands (i think) daily.

i say give the people whatever the hell it is they want, if they want the drug that bad, they're going to get it, one way or another, illegalizing it does nothing but make more and more crime. if people were allowed to grow whatever plant is that produces cocaine, and marijuana in america, those mexican drug runners that are kidnapping/killing wouldn't have a reason to do it...

if it was so easily otainable here, what would be the point? illegalization does nothing but make more (severe) crime, which makes me wonder if that's why, maybe they can't just live with a happy and secure world, maybe they just can't live in peace. it is in our animalistic-human instincts to be teritorial, and alot of times just down right out aggressive....

[Ganjasaurusrex]

[QUOTE=God v2.0]damn, everyone needs to quit bitching and shut the hell up, you are all going to die, and soon. The air you're breathing right now is extremely carcinogenic. car exauhst has a nasty little chemical in it called benzene, now benzene is EXTREMELY carcinogenic at the microgram, its also in every breath you take thanks to henry ford! or whoever the hell thought up the internal combustion engine.



so rest easy. because there is nothing you can do about it. you are going to die.[/QUOTE

Good point about benzene.

Its in what we drink also.

Sodium benzoate or potasium benzoate combined with ascorbic acid reverts back to benzene in the container when manufactured.

You will find these ingredients in many soft drinks. Ascorbic acid, (vitamin c) is great it just shouldnt be combined with benzoate derrivatives.

[benagain]

Still love the milk. I go through about a gallon of 2% every 5 days or so. I just like the way it tastes. I'd drink even more of it if it could contain any less fat and not taste like water. When I'm that worried about the dangers of modern society, I'll chuck my cell phone, stop eating packaged foods, quit smoking and get rid of all of the electronics in the house. Till then, I'll just live for now and die happy :D

[S i k]

alot of this is bullshit, ive drank about a gallon of milk every 2 days for basicly my entire life and im 18, its 2% food lion brand

im the skinniest person i know, ive never broken a bone and ive been hit by a car, the doctor said my bones are much much stronger than the average person, my calcium intake is was so high when i was growing up it ended up on my teeth, my teeth are bigger than most ppls so i had to have 4 permanents pulled and 4 baby teeth pulled early..and i rarely ate dark green vegetables...

[Ganjasaurusrex]

alot of this is bullshit, ive drank about a gallon of milk every 2 days for basicly my entire life and im 18, its 2% food lion brand

im the skinniest person i know, ive never broken a bone and ive been hit by a car, the doctor said my bones are much much stronger than the average person, my calcium intake is was so high when i was growing up it ended up on my teeth, my teeth are bigger than most ppls so i had to have 4 permanents pulled and 4 baby teeth pulled early..and i rarely ate dark green vegetables...


"bullshit" huh?

Its a matter of fact I didnt make it up. The info comes from many sources, Doctors, the industry, the FDA. I even left you with some references.

One other thing I forgot to mention. The FDA allows fecal matter in the milk along with the live bacteria and pus cells.

To your health french fry.

[dog420]

:rasta: Um Milk? , ive heard alot of shit about milk man. but in nz i dont think there is a big issue with it. like i totaly ddnt get the label thing?.

so live in nz and dont worry about the milk! :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: world peace watever way.

HAha

Peace man!

[BizzleLuvin]

HELLO! rbgh has been around for years! i grew up on SOY MILK cause my folks knew about it! i feel so fustrated cause people act SO alarmed when they hear that there are hormones in thier foods. hormones are in your vegetables, chicken soup, bbq pork EVERYTHING! this is definetly not old news. but thanks for posting this, i hope it influences people to do some healthy eating research. just another reason to GO ORGO!
visit www.organicconsumers.org to get started

[S i k]

"bullshit" huh?

Its a matter of fact I didnt make it up. The info comes from many sources, Doctors, the industry, the FDA. I even left you with some references.

One other thing I forgot to mention. The FDA allows fecal matter in the milk along with the live bacteria and pus cells.

To your health french fry.
milk has nothing to do with obesity, fast food restaurants DO

and milk IS a source of calcium

im not saying you made it up, im saying that alot of it is exagerated/not true

[Ganjasaurusrex]

HELLO! rbgh has been around for years! i grew up on SOY MILK cause my folks knew about it! i feel so fustrated cause people act SO alarmed when they hear that there are hormones in thier foods. hormones are in your vegetables, chicken soup, bbq pork EVERYTHING! this is definetly not old news. but thanks for posting this, i hope it influences people to do some healthy eating research. just another reason to GO ORGO!
visit www.organicconsumers.org to get started


Hellooooo bizzle.

Well I just learned about rBGH 2 months ago. I would hear somethings on the news but not the whole story. I knew that there were hormones in meat and dairy I just didnt know about the rest of the things that pass through into the milk like:

52 types of antibiotic residues (unchanged in the milk)

59 active hormones (active, unchanged with a chemical message)
Why does a grown man need estrogen? Why does a woman need extra estrogen when it is a primary cause of breast cancer?

Androgen the primary cause of extended acne in adults.

Androgen=increased sebum+rapid keritization=increased surface skin bacteria =acne infections.

IGF-1 hormone, unchanged amplified 10x by rBGH. The trigger for colon, breast and prostate cancer. Also spikes insulin causing juvinile diabetes.
12 oz. of milk a day raises IGF-1 in the blood serum 10%. This excludes the other sources of dairy.

Fat molecules that are changed due to rBGH making all milk,cheese,icecream and butter more fatty than before. Like heart disease and stroke arent all ready at the top of the list for death in America.

Casein a powerful antigen in humans, also used to make industrial glues.
Also sticks to the inside of the colon wall causing impacted colon over many years.

Live bacteria, one cubic centimeter is allowed by the FDA to have 20,000 cells and 750,000 pus cells due to rBGH and infected cows.

Milk is allowed by the FDA to have fecal matter in it.

The vitamin d-3 is extracted from other animals and added to the milk.

Other immuno substances naturally in the milk that protect the baby calf yet act as antigens in the human body causing autoimmune disorders like lupus as well as many types of skin problems and digestive tract problems.


All of this and this doesnt include what is passed on through the meat after these dairy cows are made into beef to eat. All residue are passed right through into the meat.


I didnt know all this until recently because like I said there have been wars faught over NOT labeling milk. The law was changed to keep all the info off the milk container especially the abbreviations (rbgh) which cannot be used.


I am positive alot of others dont know as well. But good 4 you that your parents were knowledgeble about the issue.


Milk and dairy free for 2 months. Ill stick to water, organic juice and some coffee.


Take care

[OtterPop]

You know they pump chickens with estrogen to increase growth

This means you can get titties from eating chicken titties, ironic...

[NightProwler]

what about okurst. thats okay i thought

[benagain]

I'm sure there's bacteria in milk and cheese (come one that's all cheese is), but any harmful shit is cooked out before packaging. Not saying milk is still the best thing for you, but the dairly companies don't want customers dying off before they can get more. Just a thought.

[skarz]

Damn... just another reason for me to eat more organic, that's sick. I knew it was bad but that pushed it over the top. I love milk, i should start checking labels.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

milk has nothing to do with obesity, fast food restaurants DO

and milk IS a source of calcium

im not saying you made it up, im saying that alot of it is exagerated/not

true


I cant exagerate the rules of the FDA passed on to the commercial dairies. It is what it is. The commercial dairies have shown many times that they ignore the FDA and use illegal antibiotics anyway going way above those rules.


Milk has everything to do with obesity, and arteriosclerorsis which causes impotence by the way and strokes. It just depends on body metabolism. Your probably like me, you can eat a ton of dairy and not get fat. But I can guarantee you that there is plaque that sticks to the insides of your arteries, its called Lpa.

There is plenty of calcium in milk its just that it wont absorb without enough magnesium present in the milk. So with out the proper ratio of mag/calc it is excreted in urine. There is mag. in milk but the ratio is out of proportion so that only 11% is absorbed. The U.S. consumes more milk than any other country, yet we have the highest ratio of osteopororis in the world. Now you would think that since we are consuming so much milk this wouldnt be a problem.



visit these links:


Notmilk.com (several articles by doctors)

use search box: rense milk

(two articles: Milk the marketing of disease the pus bacteria mustashe.
Dangers of milk and dairy the facts.

This one has a ton of info:

www.organicconsumers.org/rbghlink.html


Read this one imparticular:

"Despite industry propaganda Monsantos bovine growth hormone still threatens public health".


I would not spread anything that I believe to be false in anyway neither can any of these people because they can be sued by Monsanto for doing so. They are allowed by freedom of speech to site what is true, (but they are changing the laws in certain states to take this away).

Monsantos web site even states the problem on the packaging of the chemical that it will cause infections in the cow. They openly admit that and have admitted that to the FDA.


Your best bet is to buy organic milk if you dont want to stop drinking it. No hormones, antibiotics, free range.
You can buy it at Safeway right next to the bioengineered milk. The brand is called "horizon".

[Euphoric]

Soymilk is good..tastes much better after a while milk kind of tastes like liquid meat..factor in that soymilk companies pollute less, soymilk is healthier for u, the amount of pus in milk products, the suffering of dairy cows..its not a vry difficult choice to make

http://www.milksucks.com/index2.asp
http://www.silksoymilk.com/

[Jennifer K]

Got milk? Not anymore! Nasty! I' m going to definitely cut down if not quit drinking it altogether. Gotta keep using half and half in my cereal though.:stoned:

[God v2.0]

I do think they should STOP putting all that shit in our milk ESPECIALLY the hormones, because they are fucking us up. I remember a few guys in my class in grade school had huge nipples that poked through their shirts, even though they weren't overweight. Thats what you get for drinking something loaded with female hormones eh?

And I don't think enlarged tits are all that great, when its the guys who get them that is.

[God v2.0]

WELL WTF, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO EAT MY NILLA WAFERS?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!!?

[psychocat]

Gotta go some day and I'm damn sure it won't be from worry.
If our food was killing us then how come the average age westerners live to is on the increase?

[Whitemare]

"Many times these cows are so stressed from continually giving milk year round, very unnatural for the animal"


ok, my family and I use to raise dairy cattle before my grandpa died, and dairy cows lacate YEAR ROUND, its not like humans where they do it only when with calf. or with child
in fact, if a dair cow is left -un-milked, she can get an infection in her utters. and may be so uncomfortable she may not be able to lay down, or walk, even EAT!

I do agree, the cows on some farms are stressed, fortunetly, we had 2 cows only and we vaccinated them JUST for local viruses such a rabies and tetnus.

I dont drink milke, eat cheese yogurt,or meat. in fact. I'm VEGAN. so this whole cow thing is sad but has no affect on me.

yay for my happy liver.

[benagain]

on another note......watch and see. Everyone will stop drinking milk and in ten years we'll find out that that's even worse. At least that's ususally how shit works it seems. My kids can worry about it after i'm gone and we see what all this shit does to you then.

[420purplehaze420]

As soon as i saw banned in canada i stopped reading, seriously i dont think its are milk we should be worried about, we have far greater threats in our everyday lives these days

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Gotta go some day and I'm damn sure it won't be from worry.
If our food was killing us then how come the average age westerners live to is on the increase?


rBGH has was released in 1989. And that wasnt full scale. As of March, 2006 Monsanto said it is ramping up production of the drug. Thats 17 years in the milk supply at partial treatment of the nations dairy herd.

The people that you are seeing in the West living longer have not been exposed to this substance like the young children who have this subsidized into thier school lunch programs at a young age. The older generation grew up on raw milk, and straight homogenized milk without hormones and scores of antibiotics.

So starting in 1989 from there is where you have to judge the health effects on the population. Juvinile diabetes seems to be an increasing problem all of sudden as I hear about it on the news more and more. I also see more commercials promoting diabetic supplies for young kids.

Ive asked people in the older generation if childhood diabetes was so prevelent when they were younger. They all said no. Opposition scientists say it is due to the ten fold increase in IGF-1 caused by rBGH.

Childhood obesity is another thing I am hearing on the news alot. These fats have been unintentionally altered in the final product. This fatty chain molecule is now more fatty.

Whether it shows on the outside of the body is a matter of how one metabolizes fats. But all share the problem of Lpa, (sticky plaques) in the blood stream.

If a kid consumes this over a period of 20 or 30 years sure I see a marked increase in artherosclerosis, heart disease, strokes, etc. at an even younger age especially when you see a kid that is 10 and obese.

A scientist warned that if rBGH was released childhood leukemias would increase. From 1989 there was a 30% increase. That is too much of a coincidence.

We really dont know just how many people have skin disease and other diseases out there that are not making the connection. Even Doctors arent aware of this problem and simply treat the symptoms all during the time the patient is consuming milk and dairy unaware of the cause.

That should be a baseline protocol for any Doctor trying to solve a health problem to eliminate milk and dairy and wait to see if symptoms resolve.

I think its pretty sad when the largest gross domestic product of the United States is the creation and treatment of disease. What do we manufacture in this country that even comes close to what is spent on healthcare?

Everytime I look around another Walgreens or CVS pharmacy is going in on some street corner with a Doctors clinic in the same strip mall. They are everywhere.

Inside these drug stores is a pharmacy in the back of the store and tons of junk food in the front of the store. A brilliant marketing plan.

Spending on healthcare has exceeded spending on the military many fold. Take away the treatment of disease and this economy would collapse. Heart disease alone takes in 500billion per year. One of the primary reasons health insurance is so high for everyone.

I stand for preventitive orthomolecular medicine, sound diet and not treating disease with expensive pharmacuetical products that in most cases are loaded with side effects causing more problems that need to be "diagnosed" and "treated".


Kinda went off on a tangent there.

take care.

[chisme]

wow theres something new everyday

[onlyhalf]

Thank god for being lactose intolerant. I knew there had to be some type of upside. :D

[BizzleLuvin]

Hellooooo bizzle.

Well I just learned about rBGH 2 months ago. I would hear somethings on the news but not the whole story. I knew that there were hormones in meat and dairy I just didnt know about the rest of the things that pass through into the milk like:

52 types of antibiotic residues (unchanged in the milk)

59 active hormones (active, unchanged with a chemical message)
Why does a grown man need estrogen? Why does a woman need extra estrogen when it is a primary cause of breast cancer?

Androgen the primary cause of extended acne in adults.

Androgen=increased sebum+rapid keritization=increased surface skin bacteria =acne infections.

IGF-1 hormone, unchanged amplified 10x by rBGH. The trigger for colon, breast and prostate cancer. Also spikes insulin causing juvinile diabetes.
12 oz. of milk a day raises IGF-1 in the blood serum 10%. This excludes the other sources of dairy.

Fat molecules that are changed due to rBGH making all milk,cheese,icecream and butter more fatty than before. Like heart disease and stroke arent all ready at the top of the list for death in America.

Casein a powerful antigen in humans, also used to make industrial glues.
Also sticks to the inside of the colon wall causing impacted colon over many years.

Live bacteria, one cubic centimeter is allowed by the FDA to have 20,000 cells and 750,000 pus cells due to rBGH and infected cows.

Milk is allowed by the FDA to have fecal matter in it.

The vitamin d-3 is extracted from other animals and added to the milk.

Other immuno substances naturally in the milk that protect the baby calf yet act as antigens in the human body causing autoimmune disorders like lupus as well as many types of skin problems and digestive tract problems.


All of this and this doesnt include what is passed on through the meat after these dairy cows are made into beef to eat. All residue are passed right through into the meat.


I didnt know all this until recently because like I said there have been wars faught over NOT labeling milk. The law was changed to keep all the info off the milk container especially the abbreviations (rbgh) which cannot be used.


I am positive alot of others dont know as well. But good 4 you that your parents were knowledgeble about the issue.


Milk and dairy free for 2 months. Ill stick to water, organic juice and some coffee.


Take care


HI-FIVE!!!!!!!!!!! it takes an educated consumer to change the industry