Growing Opium Poppies?

[krustythfreakinclown]

Does anyone have any experience with growing Opium Poppies? I am interested in knowing the difficulty to grow them indoors and an idea of yield for each plant. I heard they only yield .5-.75 gram per plant of opium.

Anyone know?

[FireBrand77]

Yeah man,I know about some poppies.If you're thinking of growing them I can help you out.Ok,First,you need to aquire some good seeds,and I got a little secret for ya,hehe.I've heard much debate on growing the mccormick brand of poppy seed,and let me tell ya,they are very potent.Just go to your local wallmart,or any grocery store for that matter.Go to the spice isle,and get the mccormick brand poppy seed,they are used for cake muffins bagels,you know?So anyway,find you a good sunny location,with good soil,you could also work in manure,and some good potting soil mix,and scatter the seeds.They key,is to plant other flowers and vegetables with them,so they don't draw attention.Water them,and make sure the ground stays moist for a week,and you'll have thousands of little sprouts.Water them good untill they get a few sets of leaves,and viola opium poppies for almost free.Put it this way,you get 37 grams of beutiful,blue,potent opium poppie seeds for about 3 bucks,from the mccormick brand.Or you could get them online,and get the same seeds for triple the price.I'm gonna borrow a digital camera a snap a pic for ya,I planted a whole bottle,and came out with a good frew thousand seedlings.Oh,and they do grow pretty well indoors too.Use high pressure sodium lights.They work the best.I grew some of the best poppies ever with them.Only draw back is,you better have a lot of space,because it takes a lot of plants to produce a significant amount of opium.PEACE

[krustythfreakinclown]

Wow, thanks for the info!

Do you know of any grow journals or how-to manuals I could read to do more research?

Post any pics you have. Thanks again!

[FireBrand77]

Go to www.poppies.org,or erowid.they have extensive infromation on poppies,with tons of links to more sites.I'm gonna borrow a digital camera from a friend,and snap a pic of my poppies for you.It will be a few days or so,so keep checking back.PEACE

[FireBrand77]

Ok man,sorry it took so long,but I got somthin to show ya.Theese are Mccormick poppies grown indoors under flouresent light.I know the pics suck,but what can you expect for a 15 dollar digital camera,hehe.So theese are only a few weeks old,and very bushy and green.I'm tellen ya people theese are the real deal holy field.Mccormick is a number one spice company,you think they are going to use any old run of the mill poppy?Of course they aren't.Mccormick uses tasmanian poppies,one of the most potent strains.Hopefullt they won't read this and switch,but seriously folks,grow Mcormick poppies you get quite a few grams of seed for around 3 bucks.They are a very potent plant.All mine have been.I'll post pics of my outdoor patch tomorrow,as it puts these to shame.PEACE

[harmonicminor]

I have found that poppies can grow to adulthood in a 20 oz plastic cup. you can put like 4 per square foot. with 4 or 5 poppies per plant that equals out to 1 gram of O per square foot. also I think they need less lumens than cannabis. I bet 1 1000 watt hps will cover a 10 by 10 foot area. hmmmm that equals 100 grams of O :thumbsup:

[FireBrand77]

Very nice man,I can't beleive you can grow fully mature plants that big in such small cups,I'm a mazed,any more pics?PEACE

[hahaitsdoogle]

okay once you get these plants going in the outdoors, how long do they take to mature.

once they mature how to get high off these, whats the proccess, any idea's..
Im cluelesso n this matter

[FireBrand77]

They take roughly 3 months or less to flower,and once the petals drop,wait for a week or so,and then slice the pods for your opium,it's rather tricky at first,but then you get the hang of it.PEACE

[harmonicminor]

or you can just cut off the pods and make tea with them so you dont have to worry about slicing them and getting busted.
as for outside growing.....
I havent tried that yet because the light cycle for poppies is reversed.
12/12 for vegatative growth and 24/0 for flowering
it is easiest to control that indoors :-)
one more thing I barely gave them nutes at all this run "maybe once or twice a weak veg solution" and they were in pro mix

[FireBrand77]

Man,I won't be able to slice my outdoor crop,but I'm gonna cut the pods.When is a good time to cut them down for maximum opium?Oh,and here is a couple of pics of my outdoor patch.I know the quality sucks,but bare with me.Mccormick rules.PEACE

[FireBrand77]

Oh,sorry,wrong pics.Here are the outdoor pics.PEACE

[FireBrand77]

I really should have thined them,but there were to damn many.I guess I'll have to wait and see how big they grow.PEACE

[harmonicminor]

cool man
ya gotta wait like a week after the flower petals fall off.
of course I think you can thin them out and make some tea now but the potency wont be as high.

I have about 10 variteties that I bought off ebay with Gigantheums in there somewhere but they were all mixed up so sometime I am bound to get some baseball sized pods :-)
I think I will go and start another batch now :-)

[FireBrand77]

Oh,so you are saying I can make tea out of the plants I thin?If so,Have you tried it,and how potent is it.PEACE

[harmonicminor]

ummmm,
I am not really even sure but I hear it does work. I am actually still kinda new at this myself as I only have 2 full grows under my belt for these and still I only grew just a few plants each time for decoration. :-)
for more info than I can provide you can check the somni forum
www.myspace.com/beyondallreasonroc
good luck bro

[andruejaysin]

^^^Yes, I've used dried pods of the internet. Just grind the pods to powder in a blender. A couple shot glasses of the powder (never bothered to actually weigh it) will have someone with no opiate tolerance pin holed and puking. Fresh pods are supposed to be stronger, but I've never tried that. I'm sure you can milk them for opium and still use the pods for tea later, I would guess the tea wouldn't be as strong then, but it will still contain opium. The rest of the plant also contains opium, whether it's enough to bother with I'm not sure.

[harmonicminor]

hmmm I just read on that forum that the yield per pod is about 80mg. with really only about 2 big pods per plant that means it will take about 7 plants per gram of O.

[andruejaysin]

hmmm I just read on that forum that the yield per pod is about 80mg. with really only about 2 big pods per plant that means it will take about 7 plants per gram of O.Did it say what size pod would yield that dose? And does anyone have any experience with the "hen and chicks" variety? I've heard thhe contain more opium.

[mochil69]

This is a great idea. Im almost sure im going to try and grow.
But ive never used raw opium, its always been processed into a brick.
How would i use it?

[tokinggreg]

I'm actually really surprised McCormick poppy seeds work because they are.. cooked (I think), maybe i'm wrong, but I always assumed they were cooked so they wouldn't yield anything if planted. But I guess we have some evidence it does work. Quite interesting...

[harmonicminor]

I have heard that Mcormick is actually switching over to a low opium content poppy.
Mochil. raw O can either be smoked or eaten
Andrue, the references are to average 1 gram sized pods

[FireBrand77]

Mccormick doesn't cook their poppy seeds,I don't know where you heard that at.I don't beleive the whole low opium poppy myth.You need a big,potent seed pod to produce good seed,and Mccormick has some of the best.I've even planted poppies of of bagels,no shit.I grew only a few,last year,and they were tasmanian,and they were very potent.I'll keep everyone updated on my progress.Oh,and another thing most people,like tokingreg,think that just because they are supposed to be used for food,they are cooked,and won't grow,wrong.I have the proof.It seemed that every seed I planted popped up.They only took maybe four days to do so.They are growing so vigorously.Why waste time and money buying sedds off the net.Buy Mccormick.I really don't think there is such a low opium producing plant.PEACE

[harmonicminor]

read this
who knows if they are right though
http://forum.poppies.org/index.php?showtopic=11756

[andruejaysin]

The low morphine/high thebaine strain is real, developed because of the demand for oxycontin, I've seen that somewhere before, can't remember where. Bluelight, maybe. But I think the guy on that forum is right, no way they would let their genetically engineered oxy factory used for food.

[Cooler Then Jesus]

hmm, ive got 1 single plant going in my backyard, got the seeds from IZMR poppie or whatever, they were reccomended by del... i think, or rastakaze, i have no idea. they are the Afghani Speacial strain, and i have about 2000 seeds left, but i have no clue on how to properly grow them, or extract the opium, i just planted 1 tester seed, and lo and behold, i get a plant, my only complaint is that the plant doesnt seem to ever really get mutch bigger. rigght now the longest leaves are lik 5 inches. here are a Few questions ive got.

1. how close can i actually put eatch seed?
2. if i wanted to plant lots of them at once, do i have to space eatch seed individually?
3. its Early spring here if i plant this month about how long till i should expect pods?
4. how many pods per plant?
5. how mutch opium will i get from my 1 plant, and what would be the best way to take it?

thanks guys.

[harmonicminor]

a trick to planting and spacing seeds is mix them in with some sand and then spread the sand.
read the rest of this thread for more answers

[FireBrand77]

Here are some more pics of my POTENT strain of opium poppies grown indoors,hehe.I LOVE MCCORMICK!!!!!!!

[harmonicminor]

lol you better thin those out or they will only put out little baby pods bro

[krustythfreakinclown]

Nice pics, guys. Thanks a bunch.

I'd like to find a nice, secluded area where I could plant a bunch of them.

Is a guerilla grow of poppies feasible, where you only go check on them once or twice prior to harvest? if so, would there still be time to do it now and get a harvest?

[krustythfreakinclown]

Could somone give yields per plant of opium?

[FireBrand77]

Yeah,I know I need to thin them,but,I think I'll wait a little longer.I'm not really worried about the indoor crop really producing much,as I have hundreds outdoors.I was just doing this,to see how well they do under flouresent lighting.They do great as you can see .You can do a guerilla grow with poppies,as they don't need much care at all.Go buy a few bottles of Mccormick seeds,and go crazy.Scatter them everywhere,and you will get a shitload of plants.A few bottles of seed will produce thousands upon thousands of plants.PEACE

[andruejaysin]

Anyone ever extract morphine from opium? If so, how? I think an A/B would extract all the alkaloids, would that be a problem?

[Cooler Then Jesus]

i am going to plant all 2 grams of my Opium poppie afghani speacial seeds, then when we extract the raw opium, cut the pods, and get the job done. making OPIUM, not making heroin. then i will have to sell some and smoke some, but be caaarreefuuull... sell most, and spend it twords a suitcase full of my favorite uppers, sedatives, aphrodisiacs, psychadelics, ganja, etc. and then have a LOT of fun twords the end of summer...

[harmonicminor]

krusty, 160mg ????
andrue, yup those flouros are awesome, and yeah I have had a bottle of mccormick a few months now and will start some of those also. and if they are the tazzies they are the most potent :-) , theres a section on that other site for morphine production I think, if not try erowid maybe , I know I read it somewhere and it was a water extraction
cooler, it will be hard to get a big yield bro so dont count your chickens yet :-)
someday I will try an indoor sog in the plastic cups, I think I can get a good yield in a small space

[mochil69]

I have heard that Mcormick is actually switching over to a low opium content poppy.
Mochil. raw O can either be smoked or eaten
Andrue, the references are to average 1 gram sized pods

Isnt it liquid-ish?

[harmonicminor]

yes but it dries out
they lance the pods and the O oozes out onto the pods, then they let it dry out overnight and collect it the next day

[mochil69]

thanks.

[orange floyd]

me and my friend are gonna plant a crop of about uh... we have like 5 sq ft. of space for them at the lake behind my house (not on my property tho). uh once it dries out, whats a good starting dosage? and how much does it sell for cause were gonna probly smoke half and sell half of what we make. we're only planning on slicing each head like once then using it to make tea wich we'll just use for ourselves.

[FireBrand77]

Ok guys,check out this beutiful specimen.It just seemed to pop up out of my cactus pot magicaly.If this ain't a Tazzie,I don't know what is.Mccormicks plants rock.Oh,I had to get rid of my indoor patch.My landlord is nosy,and I beleive he has been in my house,while I'm at work.I didn't waste them though.I made a mean ass tea out of them,and let me tell you,even at a imature age,they were moderatly effective.I was itching all fuckin day,and I had a dreamy euphoric peacefull state of being.I swear,you can actually make tea out of young plants.I don't lie.It was like a dose of maybe one or two darvocett.Well,I've also added some mediocre outdoor pics,and yes my lazy ass still hasn't thinned them,but now that I know I can make tea,hehe.PEACE