Fight

[GratefulDead4ever]

This may sound dumb but my class had an argument over this question if a Bear and a guerrila where found in nature together if you put them say both in a cage who would win if they got in a fight lets say its one of the strongest bears and one of a strong guerrila sorry i dont know all the differnet types but say black bear and a strong guerrila who do you think would win i think that the guerrila would i just want to know who you guys think would win and also if you have heard this question before tell me bout it cause in my class some kids got in a fight over it and got kicked out of class and suspended over this question

[BongSmokityDuo]

I think a gorilla would whip a black bear, but a grizzly or polar bear would be a different story.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I'd bet on the Polar Bear:

Physical Characteristics
Polar bears are the largest living land carnivore, with males reaching a weight of up to 650 kg (1,433 lbs.) and a length up to nearly 3 m (9.9 ft). Females are smaller, weighing up to 250 kg (551 lbs.) and reaching a length of 2.5 m (8.2 ft). The largest polar bear ever recorded weighed 1,002 kg (2,209 lbs.) and measured 3.7 m (12 ft) in length.
http://www.zoocheck.com/programs/wildlife/forgotten/facts.shtml

These are the stats for the Gorilla:

Height: malesâ??5.6 to 6 feet (1.7 to 1.8 meters); femalesâ??up to 5 feet (1.5 meters)
Weight: malesâ??300 to 500 pounds (136 to 227 kilograms); femalesâ??150 to 200 pounds (68 to 91 kilograms)
http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-gorilla.html

[GratefulDead4ever]

idk lets say it was any guerrilla cept king kong cause that guerrilla would own

[Powder Puff]

wtf?! Why the weird Q?! Are you stoned?:p

[GratefulDead4ever]

But could the largest polar bear fight or did it just sit in its igloo lol

[BongSmokityDuo]

true, the polar bear would have lots of fat to stay warm. a five hundred pound gorilla could probably snap a polar bears neck if it got lucky

[Breukelen advocaat]

idk lets say it was any guerrilla cept king kong cause that guerrilla would own

MAD magazine did a comic a long time ago with kids reading about "guerilla attacks" in the paper and picturing "gorillas" with army uniforms and guns.

A Gorilla is not a guerilla, lol

guerrilla
A noun
1 guerrilla, guerilla, irregular, insurgent

a member of an irregular armed force that fights a stronger force by sabotage and harassment
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Getting back to the original question, I think that a polar bear would rip a gorilla to shreads with it's teeth and claws, and then eat it.

[GratefulDead4ever]

i just no guerrillas got that protective armor n bears got good claws it would be a fucking awesome fight to watch

[GratefulDead4ever]

lol i should have realized my spelling errors sorry bout that

[Cooler Then Jesus]

i tihnk it would go something like this...
Smokey the bear vs. king kong

smokey "only you can prevent forest fires"
kong "RAAWRRR!!" *eats smokey*
smokey (inside kong) "what are you doing...?...blaaahhrrgg!! stomach acid!!"
kong "dance bitch"

[GratefulDead4ever]

lol dude that would be sweet i will never look at king kong the same or a gorilla the same way ever again

[cushy]

theres actually a show like this..or was

it would take a bunch of scientists and shit and throw them together to enact what would happen if 2 beasts met up in nature (of course they never would)...

they did like hippos and aligators...weird combinations, but very scientific

[da haze meister]

bear vs. guerrilla
the guerrilla should just shoot the fuck out of the bear
thirty rounds from an AK could do it.

[Kid Dynamite]

theres actually a show like this..or was

it would take a bunch of scientists and shit and throw them together to enact what would happen if 2 beasts met up in nature (of course they never would)...

they did like hippos and aligators...weird combinations, but very scientific


they did it on tv in the UK a while ago. They used crazy somputer programs to see what would happen with a shark and crocodile and shit like that.

[partyguy420]

a grizzly or polar bear could easly take out the average gorila. in fact i could take out the average gorila or gurillea member.

[GratefulDead4ever]

i love the sig dynamite fucking love that movie i would put that as my sig but dont want to steal it also gorillas are the shit polar bears may have a good chance seeing as they can bite pretty good idk anyone up for breaking into the zoo and changin the polar bears into the gorilla cage and watchin them battle

[Kid Dynamite]

haha watched it last night, fucking funny stuff.

15 bucks, little man
put that shit, in my hand
if the money doesn"t show,
Then you owe me, owe me, owe
my jungle love, owee owee o

[GratefulDead4ever]

lmao i love when he talks bout purple rain

[NightProwler]

i said bear.

[TheEmpireNeverEnded]

Id have to go with gorilla. Only because the way gorillas are structured skeletal and muscular wise they have an immense amount of power. Heck a little 100-120 chimp could tear you limb from limb. Also gorillas have got to have a higher ratio of muscle to fat compared to a polar bear who needs that fat to survive.

If we are talking about putting one of the largest gorillas and largest polar bears in an arena then I would have to put all my money on the gorilla...they are tanks

[GratefulDead4ever]

thankyou for agreeing but if they were to battle it would have to be a fair area i will see about the thunderdome next week but still the biggest polar bear would be so slow the gorilla cause just hit it so many times before the fat polar bear swatted it or bit it

[tadaa]

Id have to go with gorilla. Only because the way gorillas are structured skeletal and muscular wise they have an immense amount of power. Heck a little 100-120 chimp could tear you limb from limb. Also gorillas have got to have a higher ratio of muscle to fat compared to a polar bear who needs that fat to survive.

If we are talking about putting one of the largest gorillas and largest polar bears in an arena then I would have to put all my money on the gorilla...they are tanks

Why would you bet on a 400lb animal vs a 1000lb plus animal? Do you realize that bear can run just as fast as a godamn horse? Their fur hides their muscle and they look like one blob but under that fur they are very muscular. Obviously. We're talking about a 1200lb animal that can run as fast as a horse. The bear would absolutely destroy the gorilla.

[GratefulDead4ever]

but even if one destroys the other it would still be a good fight to watch i think but what if their was one of those huge gorillas those really big ones idk i was high when i posted this thread and it bothered me who would win this battle but i still think it would be a good fight

[tadaa]

but even if one destroys the other it would still be a good fight to watch i think but what if their was one of those huge gorillas those really big ones idk i was high when i posted this thread and it bothered me who would win this battle but i still think it would be a good fight

A huge gorilla would be 500lbs based on their average weight.

[GratefulDead4ever]

ok then have a bear that weighs the same amount maybe if you cant find one then one on a diet but if they were same weight same amount of muscle it would be a great fight

[cannabis campbell]

Hmm thats a good question but probably the Guerrilla

[Polymirize]

wtf? I doubt a gorilla could challenge a polar bear much more than I could. Unless the gorilla was highly trained to sidestep and throw in jabs to the kidneys until the bear was sufficiently weakened...

Size and strength vs size, strength, teeth and claws.

This contest would be over before it started.

[TheEmpireNeverEnded]

Why would you bet on a 400lb animal vs a 1000lb plus animal? Do you realize that bear can run just as fast as a godamn horse? Their fur hides their muscle and they look like one blob but under that fur they are very muscular. Obviously. We're talking about a 1200lb animal that can run as fast as a horse. The bear would absolutely destroy the gorilla.


Chimps have extremely dense bones and muscle tissue which is the best explination ive seen in regards as to why chimps have such immense strength compared to how big they are.....

Can a 90-lb. chimp clobber a full-grown man?

"It's a lot easier to get a chimp in roller skates than it is to get
him to pump iron--hence, most of the data on chimp strength is
anecdotal and decidedly unscientific. In tests at the Bronx Zoo in
1924, a dynamometer--a scale that measures the mechanical force of a
pull on a spring--was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male
chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only
his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall,
being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage).
A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of
about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a
mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a
one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the
time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like
next morning.) In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights
of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could
probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it.

" Chimpanzees have robust bodies and powerful arms (Vaughn, 1996).
Because of their dense bones and muscle tissue, chimpanzees? upper
body strength is 8-10 times stronger than that of humans (Rowe,
1996)"

[tadaa]

Chimps have extremely dense bones and muscle tissue which is the best explination ive seen in regards as to why chimps have such immense strength compared to how big they are.....

Can a 90-lb. chimp clobber a full-grown man?

"It's a lot easier to get a chimp in roller skates than it is to get
him to pump iron--hence, most of the data on chimp strength is
anecdotal and decidedly unscientific. In tests at the Bronx Zoo in
1924, a dynamometer--a scale that measures the mechanical force of a
pull on a spring--was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male
chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only
his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall,
being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage).
A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of
about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a
mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a
one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the
time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like
next morning.) In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights
of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could
probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it.

" Chimpanzees have robust bodies and powerful arms (Vaughn, 1996).
Because of their dense bones and muscle tissue, chimpanzees? upper
body strength is 8-10 times stronger than that of humans (Rowe,
1996)"

What's your point? A full grown grizzly or polar bear can snap trees 6" in diameter with their paws.

I don't think you understand the physics of it. A 1200lb polar bear is going to be much stronger than a 400lb gorilla. Muscle is muscle, the bear could kill the gorilla with its weight alone.

[TheEmpireNeverEnded]

Im saying that pound for pound a gorilla has more muscle than a polar bear. If a 135 lb chimp did a one handed dead pull of 1260 lbs which is roughly 10 times its own weight then what would a 400-500 lb gorilla do??. The way that they are structured gives them extreme leverage

I get what your saying, the 1200lb polar bear can support his own weight so he has to be stronger than the 400lb gorilla, I get it. BUT gorillas are not structured the same way a polar bear is. I highly doubt a polar bear has as dense muscles and bones like that of a chimp or gorilla. The way they are built gives them this massive strength and all I was saying is that I thought a 400-500 lb gorilla would get all my money placed on him based on the fact that they are built for power and strength....


Since there is no REAL way to prove this theory I dont see a reason to argue it to death, especially with you tadaa... Ive read your posts and I have to say you are a very stubborn person and im assuming that you HATE to be wrong especially after you have tried to prove that you are right....

You are way to extreme, the thread "Real Shotguns" proves this.....

Im done...

[GratefulDead4ever]

I will add a few more things how many kick ass movies where made about bears beside bernstein bears and those other movies King Kong Congo showed me those animals aint no pussies even though both were fake point is if you have say a 400lb bear vs a 400lb gorilla i think the gorilla would win i wasnt really takin into consideration all the strength i am thinking bout the fact of bulletproof chest the gorillas have and bears have fur so what if its not bulletproof it might as well be cause i think gorilla would throw good hits and the bear would may not be able to react fast enough

[tadaa]

Im saying that pound for pound a gorilla has more muscle than a polar bear. If a 135 lb chimp did a one handed dead pull of 1260 lbs which is roughly 10 times its own weight then what would a 400-500 lb gorilla do??. The way that they are structured gives them extreme leverage

I get what your saying, the 1200lb polar bear can support his own weight so he has to be stronger than the 400lb gorilla, I get it. BUT gorillas are not structured the same way a polar bear is. I highly doubt a polar bear has as dense muscles and bones like that of a chimp or gorilla. The way they are built gives them this massive strength and all I was saying is that I thought a 400-500 lb gorilla would get all my money placed on him based on the fact that they are built for power and strength....


Since there is no REAL way to prove this theory I dont see a reason to argue it to death, especially with you tadaa... Ive read your posts and I have to say you are a very stubborn person and im assuming that you HATE to be wrong especially after you have tried to prove that you are right....

You are way to extreme, the thread "Real Shotguns" proves this.....

Im done...

If you saw a 400lb gorilla standing next to a 1200lb bear you'd change your mind. And just realize that half the deadlift stories by chimps are myths. There has never been a scientifically documented deadlift by a 135 chimp pulling 1260lbs with 1 hand.


Think about it, that makes no sense lol. In theory then the 135lb chimp could lift about 2400lbs with both hands. Now multiple that by 4 and you're saying that a 450lb gorilla could pick up a Hummer over its head :rolleyes: and throw it Don't believe everything you read dude. Think it out.

[Rarrr]

Guerrilla -
A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids.

I guess itd depend on the weapons the guerrilla had. A bear would tear an unarmed guerilla to shreds

[Fengzi]

Depends on what type of bear. If it were a grizzly I'd definitely bet on the bear. Look at the size of this thing. Gorillas max out at about 400lbs, a grizzly can get up to 1500lbs. Plus the gorilla really has no weapon except for its muscles, a grizzly has the claws on its front paws that would shred the gorilla. Serioulsy, a gorilla would do nothing more than piss off the bear.

[rhino44]

polar bear wins against every land animal, lions, gorillas, grizzly bears, crocodiles all lose to the polar bear. there was a study done and the polar bear killed them all. if i find it ill post it.

[tadaa]

polar bear wins against every land animal, lions, gorillas, grizzly bears, crocodiles all lose to the polar bear. there was a study done and the polar bear killed them all. if i find it ill post it.

There is no such study, but you're probably right. A 1500lb bear is too big for any land animal to kill.

[Polymirize]

Hey, if he says there's a study, there's a study. Bam, there it is. Scientific evidence proving that bears fucking own you, gorillas, and whatever other delicious animals get in their way.

Case closed.

[rainbows.rsexy]

equal sized adult bear and same gender and as the gorilla - then a bear is a much instanaeously deadly animal..

A gorilla would likely bleed to death as a result of a single exchange with a bear.

[rhino44]

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict13.html

cool link this leans towards the grizzly beating the polar bear most of the time. anyway bears own all other land animals except humans(most of the time)

[rainbows.rsexy]

Hmm thats a good question but probably the Guerrilla


how is the gorilla going to win?

fighting a bear cub I guess?

against a grizzlies 6 inch claws I doubt a two fisted gorll. could cause deadly damage anywhere nearly as quick as a pair of claws and a set of bear fangs could.

I have seen a human glizzly victim who had lost his whole face from a single claw swipe from a female grizzly.

I can't believe half of the voters here are so dim witted.

[beachguy in thongs]

Think of the bear's jaws!!!

Gorillas evolved from fish. Bears evolved from bigger bears.

[rainbows.rsexy]

a gurill. would have to ambush the bear and be using the right weapon in exactly the right place. and even then the guer. best chance is a mutual kill because the massive 30 mph running bear will probably not die immediately.

[minnesota man]

The bear would tear his shit up. We had a scar-faced 3 limbed bear up here in Minnasota. The thing could tear an alumium trash can through wood posts--like it was butta.

[Polymirize]

I doubt a two fisted gorll. could cause deadly damage.

In the interest of fairness let's not forget that the gorilla has 4 fists.


Oh wait, that still wouldn't make a difference, because it's fighting against a goddamn BEAR!

How can this vote be so even?

[Oneironaut]

I don't know. Bears are pretty big and strong, but gorillas can be really smart. I guess it all depends on what kind of bear it is, and where the fight was taking place. For example, if the bear was a polar bear, it would easily win if fighting in an arctic habitat, but would probably lose in the jungle.

[tadaa]

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict13.html

cool link this leans towards the grizzly beating the polar bear most of the time. anyway bears own all other land animals except humans(most of the time)

I love how "lairweb.org" somehow knows the result of, probably fictional, animal fights that took place in the 1800's.

[rhino44]

Romans did it in the colesium. they brought in animals from all around the world and pitted them against each other. im not sure if any documentaition exists to say who won but my money is on the grizzly bear.

[Fengzi]

I don't doubt that pound for pound a gorilla is stronger than the bear. Then again, based on weight, an ant is one of the strongest things on the planet and I can squish one with my little finger

[Kush Over]

I voted bear because I doubt my guerrilla growing ass could take one on.

[KEGS]

I think the Gorrilla would.But it would be bloddy Mess
also the Gorrillar's are stroung as sh..
it would be something to see
Thank's Keg's

[KEGS]

i'll agree to disagree

[BizzleLuvin]

are we talking about an ape or a sniper?

[Kush Over]

Personally, I'd rather see Crocodile fights. Although it'd be difficult to get them to fight if they were part of the same species, so you'd have to mix it up.

Like an Indian gharial v. Nile crocodile.

[tadaa]

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict13.html

cool link this leans towards the grizzly beating the polar bear most of the time. anyway bears own all other land animals except humans(most of the time)

This link has a poll asking which of the following animals is the ultimate "canivore": Tiger, Lion, black bear, brown bear, polar bear etc...None of those bears are canivores, they are omnivores. I wouldn't give much credit to a link that can't even classify animals correctly.

[rhino44]

This link has a poll asking which of the following animals is the ultimate "canivore": Tiger, Lion, black bear, brown bear, polar bear etc...None of those bears are canivores, they are omnivores. I wouldn't give much credit to a link that can't even classify animals correctly.

im not saying it is gospel i just came across it looking for info on the subject. take it for what its worth. and i believe a polar bear is a carnivore seeing as they only eat seals and such. not too much plant matter for them to eat on the arctic tundra and icecaps.

[GratefulDead4ever]

I am just saying 400lb bear vs 400lb Gorilla who would win i know the gorilla would get cut but i think it could get some good punches in

[graph]

what if the gorilla could fire an ak and ride a shark?

[benagain]

what if the gorilla could fire an ak and ride a shark?

LMAO, then the ape would rule ass. Howabout if the bear was a ninja?

[GratefulDead4ever]

lol its a science experiment we need some controlled variables involved

[graph]

Why don't we all just sneak into a zoo at night? I'm sure after a few hours of proper poking the gorilla and bear would be more than happy to fight eachother.

[GratefulDead4ever]

lmao i suggested doing that and switching the animal exhibits i can see the news story now Fun Time at THE ZOO Gone Bad

[tadaa]

im not saying it is gospel i just came across it looking for info on the subject. take it for what its worth. and i believe a polar bear is a carnivore seeing as they only eat seals and such. not too much plant matter for them to eat on the arctic tundra and icecaps.

In mid-summer they become omnivores, because there are no seals around. Then they eat plants, small rodents, fish, eggs and sometimes grass.

[GratefulDead4ever]

then during the midsummer when they may be weak is when us gorillas attack