SUPERTHRIVE

[mobay]

Has anyone ever used superthrive? well i wanted to let everyone know that it is the best product on the market in my eyes. previously i purchased some white russian seeds and sent my friend Postmandave 5 seeds to grow. so he planted his 5 and i planted my 1 and the outcome was amazing. the 1 seed i planted turned female pic below. and just talked to Postmandave and all 5 of his plants are female. the odds of superthrive turning your plants female are excellent. if anyone has ever used superthrive please post a comment on how it worked for you.

[busteruk7]

niceeeeeeeeee grow mobay m8
yeah im using superthrive but havent been using it long enuff to tell the difrence yet
but the read up on it brilliant
anyway hows it going dude i see ya have changed ya avatar:)

[mobay]

yeah, i changed it cause Dave Chappelle is one crazy ass comedian. Buster do you use it every week? cause thats the way i've been using it, weekly same day. with fox farm nutes of course.

[afh786]

i been using too and from 3 seeds i got 3 females , and they are very nice , i love it :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[postmandave]

like the man said , i use it every week and for lst it is great as well it seems to reduce stress and i veged for 5 weeks and out of 5 white russian i got 5 females and out of 2 aurora indica i got 2 females and there was no growth stunt at all with using superthrive along with my canna nutes so YES i would recomend that shit to anyone here some pics one of wr and one of ai at 3 weeks lst,d. the postman

[postmandave]

and mobay bro that jamacain strain that you sent me turned female as well bro, so im doing ok bro no males at all so if its not down to the superthrive, im one lucky dude,and that wr is looking good bro top grow as usual, wait to you get into this cloning shit,im going to cross that jamaican strain with white russian ,that should make a nice strain, later, the postman.

[mobay]

in pic 1 i bent her 2 times and it didnt slow down shit she is growing off the hook.

[mobay]

what are the chances that you dont get a male, high i guess , so what can you do to make a male wr? me i dont want to see no damn males, so i will continue to use the thrive. just send me some seeds and i will take over from there.

[postmandave]

was she tied down during veg mate or did you do it during flower.the postman.

[BOYZNUS]

I USE 2 DROPS PER GALLON, EVERY WATERING.

I ONLY RAISE CLONES, AND SO FAR, NO HERMIES.

I LUV IT.

[mobay]

i only vegged for 1 week, this is 3rd week of 12/12. i had troubles when i was trying to grow that white widow ( white strain ) all males, and will stress in a minute. but i didnt do anything but feed the wr and no stress. 2 bends , tying down the fan leaves and she is still growing strong.

[mobay]

so u have all females in your gang? thats a lot of pussy there , lol

[mobay]

i use 1/4 tsp per gallon with mine Boyznus. and its worked wonders

[LIP]

Damn man... Im getting me some of this stuff... MY mates got a female plant growing on his window sill... its budding now andi cant belive its not hermiw after all the stress he's put it thru ... it only has 3 fingers on ALL the leaves because of insurficient light ... but its a fighter lol ... i'll be getting some of this ... i need more females lol

[postmandave]

for stress nothing is better man , i know the plant can be stressed to turn mail(male, god i have mail in the brain man its all they letters i post lol) so maybe it stops stress turning seedlings male , anyway it definetly does something good for them, i wouldnt grow without it now, the postman.

[mobay]

superthrive can run a seedbank out of business :( , cause all we strive for is the female plants :dance: , and a company that sells cloning equipment will blow up in business :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: :rasta: .

[postmandave]

mobay if you get the yeild from the wr that you got from the big bud you will be well happy as that yeild you got from one plant was something special bro, did you use superthrive with that grow , the postman.

[Garden Knowm]

NICE plant MOBAY

[mobay]

hydro was used with the big bud, didnt really know anything about superthrive, until i started reading it in here somewhere.

Garden Knowm thanks.

[postmandave]

as boyznus says you can add it every watering or once a week like we do , so im going to try it out on clones to see how it goes, you know the prob ive had with ww but this time no hermies and 12 days away from harvest this is my 3 rd go at ww and this time no hermies, the postman.

[mobay]

i know your happy with that shit there. i guess you need more, lol. 1 question postman do u have the space for all these clones your gonna be making, lol. a damn jungle

[postmandave]

lol we have made room ,mobay, but im in the prosess of building up a breeding box, as i must cross this jamaican strain with white russian as that jamaican strain was one of the best(if not the best smoke) i have ever had the stone was what i like real body couchlock stone , but i have yet to try white russian but have only heard good things about it and its 24%thc i think and the jamaican is about the same so the both together will make a good strain , is that jamaican strain 100% sativa, it looks like it , and as you know i am busy with these grow boxes the first one will be going on e bay some time this week (i hope), the postman.

[mobay]

i still have the one i made 4 ft cloning box. might put mine on ebay as well.

postman grow that jamaican plant to the fullest cause that was the last seed i had, lol. your great grand kids should keep that clone going.

[postmandave]

with the shit they are selling on there for big bucks mate you cant go wrong, they ask for crazy money for them when ours are done we will be asking for what they are worth not the crazy dollars the big companies are asking , people need what they can afford good quality products for good cheap prices , and we cant go wrong , that caddy that hippie bought he is saying that it was a rip of and that the ones we are selling are a lot better but cant be saying to much on here as dont want anyone thinking we are trying to advertise as that is not my game the products will sell their self and the after sales treatment they will be getting will be first class, the postman.

[Gen]

excellent post mobay.

Mobay, jamacian, the marijuana chemistry book said it's good for sex. Is that true?

[mobay]

when i was in jamacia i was to to fucked up to think about sex, it was like i needed the high to come down alittle bit so i could function a little better. but the next day the sex was great.

[gin4dub]

I hate to jack a thread, but Mobay, your monkey friend is back homie. Whats the plan boss?

[Gen]

The next day? You couldn't perform when you smoked it? Or you weren't interested in having sex. Sorry about the personal questions.

[BOYZNUS]

HERES 3 PICS OF THE GIRLS WITH SUPERTHRIVE.

[latewood]

I use my superthrive each week when I top off with ph'd ROwater 1/4 tsp per gallon.

Regular recipe@rez change...then top off rez during week with ph'd RO water and superthrive. In my recipe My catalyst, vit-b, stress product is Liquid karma.

this works for me...

I also believe that i have had great results of fem's using superthrive, but I would like to think, that my care in providing a stress free environment is the real reason...perhaps all yours too! Mobay, didn't you learn stuff from my good friend Harddon. Who by the way says "high" from Rome, where he saw Marley in concert a couple of nights ago. later lw

[cptweedmanguy]

Wow HARDON is really doing his thing now ha. He did have some good threads. Well anyways, ive heard that superthrive causes bad deformations in your plants.... is my good source of information wrong?

[Sauce]

Just bought one of the small bottles from walmart yesterday for $7.00 bucks.
Waiting till the next watering, cant wait to see results.

[postmandave]

boznus wicked grow mate, latewood give me some more info on this reverse osmosis will you mate, getting conflicting info at this ens so thought i would ask thee man and tell hardon to keep it rocking for the troops man,gen dont know about mobay but the guy gave me a bit of that jamaican and in my opinion sex was the last thing on my mind,actually there was nothing on my mind exept, numbness , it was fucking excellent , but very, very potent man made me extra paranoid but im a paranoid nut anyways,the postman

[mobay]

hey gen, when i got to jamacia i smoked a blunt in my room. thinking that it was like any other weed i smoked, but i was truly wrong. the high was to strong for me to funtion in this 3rd world country, so i tried to sleep it off. that was the only thing i wasnted to do is bring this high down. sex wasnt in the top 10 of that night. but when i woke up it was on, lol. :dance:

boyznus that is a good job your doing there, damn good job.

[mobay]

male or female? iam a male

gin4dub, lol, as long as things go well i wont start acting like a fool in here, lol :D

[postmandave]

gen, what i can do is a little experiment i have one plant here that my good freind got to me from jamaica , i call her the queen, when she is harvested i will smoke a few joints grab a hold of the missus and see if charlie will rise to the occasion, i very much doubt it though as this strain is something special in my mind lol, as mobay said it is a very strong buzz my first thought when i smoked a blunt was , man i have to straighten my head out here , then i giggled with my son for about an hour , so if i done this with the wife i dont think charlie would ever rise to the occasoin again it would be wayne bobbit all over again, the postman.

[BukDatAss]

hey Mobay what were ur steady temps in ur grow box on the 1st grow?????

[latewood]

Wow HARDON is really doing his thing now ha. He did have some good threads. Well anyways, ive heard that superthrive causes bad deformations in your plants.... is my good source of information wrong?Yes, your good source is full'o'chitman! Anyone who claims superthrive used correctly damages plants either,...1. has not used it/used it correctly, or 2. they are trying to sell you something else for you b vits, and stress related problems. lw
It is great stuff, especially if you are on a limited budget, and can't afford a regimen of nutes, like some of us use.
Harddon, for instance grew with nutes, guano and superthrive. alot of growers use 3-part and superthrive, adding a bloom enhancer towards the end. does this answer your Q?

[mobay]

Big Buk whats up bro? 78 was my steady temp, i had a heater in there that kept the box at 78, this was the winter time.

[latewood]

excellent post mobay.

Mobay, jamacian, the marijuana chemistry book said it's good for sex. Is that true?OH yeah!!!:dance: ;)

[latewood]

boznus wicked grow mate, latewood give me some more info on this reverse osmosis will you mate, getting conflicting info at this ens so thought i would ask thee man and tell hardon to keep it rocking for the troops man,gen dont know about mobay but the guy gave me a bit of that jamaican and in my opinion sex was the last thing on my mind,actually there was nothing on my mind exept, numbness , it was fucking excellent , but very, very potent man made me extra paranoid but im a paranoid nut anyways,the postmanRo is a process of sending water thru a filter, then forcing it back thru a membrane to remove all the impurities and minerals, and salts. some are harmful to your photosynthesis, some are not. you have to remove both, in order to get pure water.
the thing is when you use RO, you must replenish your pure water with the necessary base minerals you removed.
For this Botanicare's Calmag+ is the preferred product.
Now you have healthy water, full of minerals (botanicare is organic), and you are ready to add nutes and additives to enhance your production rate.
some well water is perfect for growing(you must test your well water), for instance; My well water is high is iron...167ppm's. so, I remove it.

your ph will balance easier, almost by itself with the application of a proven pro nutrient line (most nutes come with a buffer to self adjust the ph for you), at least close to within range.

the only drawback that I see, is the fact that you have to put calcium, magnesium back in...and to me having the perfect blend of calmag/minerals is...PRICELESS.

let me know if this answers your Q lw

[postmandave]

latewood you are the man, thank you agian for passing on you knowledge, this is now locked and loaded in my personal info file , mobay bro when you have time have a look at the post in plant problems , i tried to gather as much info i could to post to help users with their probs done one on pests as well, the postman.

[mobay]

latewood good look out bro on the thrive

[Gen]

So it really varies as to how much people are using for superthrive. I'm trying a couple of drops a one/half gallon pitcher. Each time I water. I read a thread awhile back about not using superthrive for flowering. So which is it?

[BOYZNUS]

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SUPERTHRIVE IS "B1" VITAMIN. IT IS GOOD FOR ROOT GROWTH. I USE IT IN BOTH MY VEG ROOM AND MY FLOWER ROOM. I FIGURE IT COULDN'T HURT TO HAVE LOTS O' ROOTS, RIGHT?

[mobay]

shit iam using it in the veg stage and the flowering stage, flush for 7 days, cut and hang.

[Rekap]

2 thumbs up for superthrive :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ive used it from the start. during veg and flower.

[busteruk7]

impresive rekap one day i will get results like that
what strain was that m8
cheers

[postmandave]

the proof for me was that i have had 3 attempts at growing feminised white widowand 3 time the bitch turned hermie on me, then my good freind mobay sent me bottle of thrive in one of his numerous generous acts of freindship , i used it on the widow and low and behold the perfect grow, no stress bigger yeild and an over all healthy looking plant, now it is an esential part of my grow , so anyone who hasnt tryed it , should as it really does work, the postman.

[mobay]

Rekap, nice looking plants you have bro :thumbsup: , in pic 2 that is amazing nice and tight. she has a nice body on her is she a virgin :pimp: , lol, not for long:stoned: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Kush Over]

So, wait..

Rekap; you used Superthrive all throughout that plant's flowering?

How long did it take to flower it to that from seed?

[Gen]

rekap, awesome nugs. Yum, yum.

[Jdog7000]

Super Thrive is great stuff...it works well for cloning also.
Cut your cuttings and soak the cut tip in superthrive for about 10-15 minutes..dip in powder or gel and root!

[elcheapo]

The following is some interesting information I found on the topic.

Superthrive or Superjive by Al Fassezke

The question of the value of Superthrive as a miracle tonic for plants is often bandied about in horticultural circles. Several years ago, after reading claims that range from "I put it on and my plant, which had never bloomed, was in full bloom the next day" to "It was dead - I put Superthrive on it and the next day it was alive and beautiful, growing better than it ever had before", I decided to find out for myself. If you look for information on the net, youâ??ll find the manufacturerâ??s claims and anecdotal observations, totally lacking in anything that resembles anything like a control. Though my experiments were far from scientific, I tried to keep some loose controls in place so that I could make a fair judgment of its value, based my own observations. Here is what I did, what I found, and the conclusions I made about my use of the product "Superthrive".

On four separate occasions, I took multiple cuttings from the same plant. The plant materials I used were: Ficus benjamina, (a tropical weeping fig) Luna apiculata (Peruvian myrtle), Chaenorrhinum minus (a dwarf snapdragon), and an unknown variety of Coleus. In each instance, I prepared cuttings from the same plant and inserted them in a very fast, sterile soil. Half of the cuttings were soaked in a Superthrive solution of approximately 1/2 tsp per gallon of water. The other half of the cuttings were watered in with water. In subsequent waterings, I would water the "Superthrive batch" of cuttings with a solution of 10 drops per gallon and the others with water. The same fertilizer regimen was followed on both groups of cuttings. In all four instances, the cuttings that I used Superthrive on rooted first. For this reason, it follows that they would naturally exhibit better development, though I could see no difference in vitality, once rooted. I can also say that a slightly higher percentage f cuttings rooted that were treated to the Superthrive treatment. I suspect that is directly related to the effects of the auxin in Superthrive hastening root initiation before potential vascular connections were destroyed by rot causing organisms.

In particular, something I looked for because of my affinity for compact branching in plants was branch (stem) extension. Though the cuttings treated with Superthrive rooted sooner, they exhibited the same amount of branch extension. In other words, internode length was approximately equal.

As a second part to each of my "experiments", I divided the group of cuttings that had not been treated with Superthrive into two groups. One of the groups remained on the water only program, while the other group was treated to a 10 drop per gallon solution of Superthrive. Again, the fertilizer regimen was the same for both groups. By summerâ??s end, I could detect no difference in bio-mass or vitality between the two groups of plants.

Since I replicated the above in four different trials, using four different plant materials, Iâ??m confident in drawing some conclusions as they apply to me and my growing habits or abilities. First, based on my observations, I have concluded that Superthrive holds value for me as a rooting aid, or stimulant if you prefer. I regularly soak the soil, usually overnight, of my newly root-pruned and usually bare-rooted repots in a solution of 1/2 tsp Superthrive per gallon of water. Second, and also based on my observations, I donâ??t bother with its use at any time other than at repotting. No evidence was accumulated through the 4 trials to convince me that Superthrive was of any value as a "tonic" for plants with roots that were beyond the initiation or recovery stage.

The first ingredient listed as beneficial on the Superthrive label is vitamin B-1 (or thiamine). Growing plants are able to synthesize their own vitamin B-1 as do many of the fungi and bacteria having relationships with plant roots, so it's extremely doubtful that vitamin B-1 could be deficient in soils or that a growing plant could exhibit a vitamin B-1 deficiency.

Some will note that I used more of the product than suggested on the container. I wanted to see if any unwanted effects surfaced as well as trying to be sure there was ample opportunity for clear delineation between the groups. I suspect that if a more dilute solution was used, the difference between groups would have been less clear.

It might be worth noting that since the product contains the growth regulator (hormone) auxin, its overuse can cause defoliation, at least in dicots. The broad-leaf weed killer Weed-B-Gone and the infamous Agent Orange, a defoliant that saw widespread use in Viet Nam, are little more than synthetic auxin.

[latewood]

el cheapo...great info on your trial...I noticed that you did not mention any stress tests...I originally got superthrive for it stress relieving uses...vit b and hormones.
Did you over heat or leave out of light or do any trials as to how well superthrive would aid in the recovery of plant after any sort of stressful environment.

also what category of plant were you testing on...i.e. succulents, etc.

thanks, if you could answer thiese Q's, I would appreciate it. lw

[elcheapo]

Sorry Latewood, I wish I could answer those questions but it was some information I googled.
I did a 'Sparrow' on that post so to speak :)
I googled for 'superthrive snake oil' and found it in some cached results.
Here is the link :-
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:wnj6keR9lM0J:forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/maple/msg1222561526001.html+superthrive+snake+oil&hl=en&gl=au&ct=clnk&cd=4

[postmandave]

to me the tests must be done with the cannabis plant, latewood if you me and mobay want to do our own reserch into the value of superthrive we could set up our own research if you both are intrested, i will take 4 cuttings of the white russian strain as soon as we agree ,i will feed 2 of those superthrive and the required nutes and 2 only the required nutes through their whole growth from veg to flower and lst both pairs and see the stress value , you and mobay could do other other set experiments, let get our heads together and prove once and for all to all cannabis growers the benefits of superthrive, hope to hear both your comments on this idea, the postman.

ps exellent link elcheepo , thank you.

[latewood]

OK, I just built a couple units, the ole'lady found for me to plumb...each will fit 2 clones, so I have a test unit ready for assembly...I will do mine with my tried and true MistyBlue as opposed to my NL#2, because I think NL#2 is going to be my fav.,and I want to hyperdrive those clones.

I'm in 2 w/3-part and superthrive and 2 without. I will be using hygrozyme and calmag+ for my rez

Mobay?

[BOYZNUS]

THIS IS SOOO BITCHIN'. I LOVE WHERE THIS THREAD IS TAKING OFF TO. WILL KEEP WATCHIN' FOR RESULTS. GOOD LUCK GUYS

[Lady Vapor]

I've used Superthrive for almost a year and a half. I put in 1/4 tespn. for evey 1 1/4 gallon of water every time I water till end of harvest. You can see the results in my thread - Third Times a Charm

[postmandave]

right latewood, mobay i am taking my cuttings tonight. latewood you seem the more knowledgable,so will you set out instructoins for this experiment. i will take the 4 wr cuttings 2 will be grown with superthrive and 2 without, you just post the feeding instructoins for me and i will follow them to the letter, i use canna nutes (see pics) i will post pics of the clones tonight all i need is the superthrive feeding rota, i will leave that to you, and oh yeh i grow in soil and i would like to lst both pair to see the stress relief properties of superthrive. the postman

[mobay]

alright this is week 6 with the white russian, using fox farm nutes and superthrive.

pic 1 i only vegged for 1 week

pic 2 i had to bend her again, cause she was just growing to fast into the light.

[mobay]

ok everyone i will start the experiment off with the superthrive, and my new soil grow. i will be growing K2. she has just broke her shell and i will be putting her in soil tomorrow.


K2 Cannabis seeds & Marijuana Seeds
A relatively compact plant with compact buds, related to White Widow. Flowers are white with THC and produce a large yield. K2 marijuana seed is a white strain Indica Sativa with a smashing soft fruity sweet taste with a touch of spice and it has wonderful aroma. Great choice for indoor growing weed in limited space employing hydro or other indoor systems. K2 produces a spacey high which comes on quick.

Specs:


Flowering: ~50-55 days
Height: ~ 100cm indoor / 150cm outdoor
Yield: ~200g indoor to 370g or more outdoor
Indica/Sativa: 70/30
Harvest: Primarily indoor, late Oct if outdoor
Sow: Sow when soil warms to 15C/59F or more or transplant after last frost

[mobay]

this a copy of what iam growing now , WHITE RUSSIAN

Winner of the overall Cannabis Cup in 1996 and of the Cup for Best Bio Grass in 1997.
The plants yield very powerful buds, coated with resin.
Very strong, long lasting High, more cerebral than a knockout. Medicinal plant.

These seeds produce plants that are fantastic in both appearance, and effect.
One of the most typically indica strains, White Russian is a stable cross of AK-47 and White Widow (a prize winning indica clone). Medium height, consistent plants and dense, very resinous flower tops (crystals appear after about 5 weeks of flowering).

With such a strong indica background, the plants smell quite strong during both their growth and flowering period.

In an independent seed comparison in which over 150 different seed strains were grown out in a greenhouse, the White Russian came out as the strongest plant (22% THC, likely to be the strongest plant known at present!!).

[postmandave]

and what a plant she is to bro, you never sease to amaze me bro , when you said to me you were only veging for a week i thought man you might not get a big yeild but again you have done it. man she looks wicked , i will have to wait till tomorow to take my cuttings as i cant open veg box as i have plants in flower, and just to add to the topic here they are and they have been fed superthrive right through flower i have had to rebuild flower room and its not finished yet so there is no mylar up yet doing that tomorrow had to build a tent around these with white sheets the postman.
sorry about pics had to use phone to take them

[mobay]

ok this is an update on the white russian. i can say myself that i have been doing a lousy job on keeping up with her growing. the temps got up to 94 degrees in her room a couple of times, i cut off almost all the lower leaves that were yellowing, she went almost bone dry once. and the only thing that i havent slacked on was giving her, her nutes and superthrive. the main cola is swellling really good. this is the 1st time me growing white russian and my friend postmandave told me she will swell even more in the last 2 weeks. so now she has my full attention, as it is coming close to chopping this bitch down. after all of the above slacking i mentioned , she is looking beautiful. i just wanted to see how good the superthrive really works, under some stressful situations.

[latewood]

waiting on clones to root...for experiment.

I have some finishing, with my full regimen; For experiment I am going to use 3-part and calmag+, because I use ROwater +Superthrive.
PMD...are you growing hydro or soil? and; I only vegged my latest crop 1 week...they are smaller than I usually end up with, but the quality is the best ever!

Mobay is growing soil.

for this experiment, I think we should veg 2 weeks to allow better development before we flower.

Post a pic the day you transplant rooted clones; Also, take pic of roots and give info such as;
what strain? How long clones since cutting, and what if anything was added to rez. How's this?
I will watch for your replies.

[BukDatAss]

You guys are doin it BIG:D LOL.... Nice work guys

Yeah I know what you mean Mobay about the heat. I'm also using the superthrive this time around and its good because my box sometimes hits 94:eek: Man thats hot, but they really do look healthy, I just started 12/12 yesterday so its time to get bloomin:thumbsup: I hope no hermies come around this time but I will chop them off unless there all hermies:o Ok anywayz talk 2 u guys soon Good luck

PS mobay- when do start the LST

[mobay]

latewood i do agree with vegging a bit longer. this was only an experiment on vegging for a week, so tomorrow i will take some cuts and veg her for 3-4 weeks this time. and yes iam growing in fox farm soil. :thumbsup:


good job there Big Buk :thumbsup: . i started my lst the 3rd week, once i started to see the hairs growing everywhere i started to bend that bitch :) . buk this superthrive is amazing , like i said my plant has seen some hard times and she is of the white strain, and you know they dont take no shit :mad: . i will send you 5 white russian seeds free if that plant of yours turn hermie. now thats a deal you cant pass up :D .

see ya soon people.

[the image reaper]

just for the record ... I have never used SuperThrive until now ... I've only had one male plant appear in 25+ years, never had a hermie, etc., all without SuperThrive ... currently I am using SuperThrive for the first time after hearing so much about it ... although this is the first time I've done this particular strain, I do think the SuperThrive is responsible for a lot of bushy growth that I'm not used to seeing ... plants are staying more compact and bushy than I've ever seen, and this is a sativa-dominant, so I'm surprised ... SuperThrive gets my Old Stoner Seal of Approval :thumbsup: ...... :smokin:

[Punani Jack]

Amazing thread guys!

Keep up the good work.

Superthrive can be used with hydro also right...?

[Rekap]

So, wait..

Rekap; you used Superthrive all throughout that plant's flowering?

How long did it take to flower it to that from seed?

yes i used it with every watering during veg. and for flowering i used 1drop superthrive and 2drops cactus juice per liter.

i vegged for about 32days i think and 12/12 for 8 weeks.

thanks for the comments guys :thumbsup:

[BigBudDaddy08]

SuperThrive is Great pic on left is with superthrive and turned out female pic on right is without superthrive and turned male .Also both is same age

[latewood]

Amazing thread guys!

Keep up the good work.

Superthrive can be used with hydro also right...?
Yes, 1/4 tsp per gallon...

[HungryMcNasty]

my babies have been eating it their whole life and they are some beautiful ass plants. I have been vegging for almost 60 days now they are doing wonders let me tell you. im about to start flowering this week
much love....nasty

[HungryMcNasty]

damnit here lol:stoned:

[postmandave]

Latewood my clones are waiting to root too so will let you know when im ready. Mobay is germing some wicked strains at the moment so we can all get our heads together and get this going. The postman.

[mobay]

damn i found this thread on the other page, LOL. well i have a few more weeks til flush . just wanted to give you an update on the white russian. soil was a good grow for me, had to do it cause the last time i grew soil i failed at it. couldnt leave for more than 2 days with the soil grow.

so thats why my next grow is hydro, so check me out on the threads baby.

[Kush Over]

Nice plant, Mobay!

Going to have to try some White Russian genetics one grow in the not so distant future it looks like.

[the image reaper]

I've been growing indoors for 30 years .. Im no 'expert', but I have done enough crops to know what to expect ... this is my first grow using SuperThrive ... following label directions, much like you all have ... my plants are in excellent shape, like always, ... and I see NO difference with the SuperThrive ... if it has done anything beneficial, it isnt evident to me ... I'll probably keep using it, since it could be doing something discreetly, but I surely doubt it affects sexing ... in fact, this crop had one male, and that is only the 2nd male I have gotten in 30 years ... purely coincidental, Im sure, but something to ponder ... :smokin:

[buthead]

someone say superthrive? slam here u go http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=65 good organic post there recenly...since u been gone.peace buthead/xxxxyyyzzzzz

[mobay]

update on the white russian, its almost that time. been feeding straight water for about a week now, lot of the hairs are turning red. the thc is turning milky on most of the leaves, 100x microscope. i did almost everything to stress this plant out , but with using the superthrive has kept the plant on course. so to conclude on the superthrive i am very impressed.

[BukDatAss]

DAMN!!!! THAT WR IS LOOKING MIGHTY FINE...... DAMN!!!!!!

[mobay]

BIG BUK whats up there, man she's almost done.

[SkillzRemix]

anotha one in da bag fellaz my second crops comming along jus took 4 clones yesturday same bagseed as last time but with much more experience holla loken good mobay..p.s. bring back rick james bitch!

[elcheapo]

Mobay, cool strain. The pistils actually look like little rhino tusks!

[mobay]

ok yesterday i just added the final flush to the plant. wait 4-5 more days and TIMMMMMMMMMBERRRRRRRRR. about 50% clear and 50% milky on the thc.

[postmandave]

nice job bro lookin sweet, later.the Postman.

[Kush Over]

Mobay, she's looking booty-ful.

Keep up the good work.

[mobay]

postman, skillz, elcheapo, BIG BUK, and KO, thank you for your post. i wonder how everyone else is doing , with the superthrive.

[Kush Over]

I'm doing great with it, bro.

My sativa dominant bag seed plant loved it during vegetative, and the one time I needed to use it to alleviate some stress during flowering. And I swear, even with all the HST I put her through, she turned out female and the buds are filling out nicely. Some of the top colas are like soda cans, and haven't even swelled up to the fullest yet.

Miracle-Gro soil, Miracle-Gro fertilizers, Ironite trace elements, and a little SuperThrive.

[mobay]

good job KO, keep it up.

[mobay]

ok she has been total dark for 24 + hours and just finished trimming her bush :D . not a bad harvest for vegging 1 week i must say :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: . temp in the box is set at 85 degrees for 5-7 days. then i will cure them in an air-tight container.

lets keep this thread going growers :dance: .

[BukDatAss]

Damn that was a fast as Harvest.... Its looks GREAT, man as for me Sheit man its sucking ass the clones I cut look the same as when i cut them about 2 weeks very slow ass process when taking them from flowering. Never again

[Kush Over]

Good job, Mobay.

Looks like you've got about 3.5 dry, maybe even a full Q. I take it you felt no remorse whatsoever over cutting her down? I shed at least one tear -- maybe from the violating odor, though.

How long do you plan on curing for?

[John Doe]

Yes I too did this... taking clones from flowering... and man they are rooting much slower then the rest... Whats wierd is I was just begining to flower and the branchs I took had NO hairs... and now.. even under 24/0 they have hairs... but no roots.. should have em in a couple days though.... I hope

On the ST I just bought it today and will start using it regulary

A test I thought about was to maybe break 2 plants in half... or down the middle try one with ST and one with out.. if you have enough clones it shouldnt be too much of a loss

[latewood]

good grow mobay...getting a couple ready for experiment.

later. lw

[postmandave]

Top job bro .tryed to ghet you last night but you werent on line.you gotta have got about 4oz dry there bro easy .welll done and only vegging for a week.I have decided to do a greenhouse grow through the summer.The queen and white russian cross will be fine if it has been pollinated correctly as this is my first time crossing plants.the buds thatw ere pollinated look different from the rest so i guess it has worked ok.will give you a shout tonight bro.The Postman.

[mobay]

HAPPY 2000 Latewood :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[mobay]

postman good job on crossing those two plants. I sure hope you did get it right, cause that will be some paralizing weed there. send me some seeds for my christmas harvest, lol.

[latewood]

I've been growing indoors for 30 years .. Im no 'expert', but I have done enough crops to know what to expect ... this is my first grow using SuperThrive ... following label directions, much like you all have ... my plants are in excellent shape, like always, ... and I see NO difference with the SuperThrive ... if it has done anything beneficial, it isnt evident to me ... I'll probably keep using it, since it could be doing something discreetly, but I surely doubt it affects sexing ... in fact, this crop had one male, and that is only the 2nd male I have gotten in 30 years ... purely coincidental, Im sure, but something to ponder ... :smokin:I've run across this several times and must comment. :)


I feel that your observation is all the more reason to use Superthrive. You are not supposed to notice anything other than a healthy plant. Imo.

I have pondered this query...

I think people misconstrue Superthrive...I don't believe it to be a producer of monster 'bud', but a stress relieving vitamin mix that keeps the plants happy/healthy. Imo

It took a while, but that is my take on Superthrive.

When I 1st read up on superthrive, I decided to use it because it is a stress relieving "elixir", so to speak...
Matter of fact, I originally bought it to relieve the stress plants experience through transplanting.

One of the 1st rules of successful cannabis growing is; What?
Keeping the plant stress-free if possible. It is the key factor in early development to produce fem's...[big:thumbsup: tip]

So, If an early stress free growing environment is the key to more fem's...then we can assume that Superthrive, with it's stress relieving tendencies...Helps to create more fem seedlings. That addresses the male/female ratio debate...again just MO.

I would like to add...there are several factors* that are overlooked in this debate. Factors* that are relevent and have been proven to cause more or less females in seedlings.

*There was a study** was done by Henk, owner of Dutch Passion, on their feminized seeds. If it goes for feminized seeds then it goes to regular seeds in my opinion. (Check out the "had to be said" thread in the grow lounge...I posted a report from "dutch passion" that explains the experiment/results)

**source-information came from page261 section2 chapter8. Indoor Marijuana horticulture; Better known as the Indoor Bible. Buy one @amazondotcom

OK, I will post this and let it sink in, talk to you folks, later lw

[the image reaper]

I have no firm decisions on the stuff, one way or another, it could very well be like you suggest, maybe the Superthrive only makes itself obvious when there is a deficiency ... very possible ... I may start some seeds in a few days, depends on what my present clones do ... I will NOT use the Superthrive on one plant, and see if I can see a difference ... if anything develops regarding the Superthrive test, I will post it up ... :thumbsup: ...... :smokin:

[Kush Over]

Supposedly, the Vitamin B-1 in SuperThrive and other products doesn't do shit for roots whatsoever. The naphthylacetic acid and some of the other components in it, however, does. Read the excerpt below for further details.

Linda Chalker-Scott, Ph.D., Extension Horticulturist and Associate Professor,
Puyallup Research and Extension Center, Washington State University

The Myth of Vitamin Stimulants:
"Vitamin B-1 reduces transplant shock by stimulating new root growth"

The Myth
Ever seen this advertisement? â??[Product X, which contains vitamin B-1] stimulates the quick formation of new root hairs and revitalizes the delicate feeder roots that are often damaged in transplanting. [Product X] is especially designed to hasten the development of bareroot roses, shrubs, shade trees and bedding plants that have been moved to new locations. It helps plants become established quickly and ensures vigorous growth.â?� Another adds a little scientific terminology to convince you: â??Vitamin B-1 (plus minor elements and chelating agents) is great for root growth and helps reduce transplant shock.â?� Or how about this one? â??The combination of Vitamin B-1 with essential micro nutrients forms a highly effective mixture...and lessens the chances of transplant shock and plant stress.â?� Arenâ??t you convinced that if you donâ??t use products with Vitamin B-1 your transplants will suffer? Apparently administrators at one large university are. Under their â??Typical Tree Protection and Relocation Specificationsâ?� is the following: â??48 hours prior to cutting, an application of vitamin B-1 shall be administered to the rootball of the tree.â?� If a university requires this practice, it must be legitimate, right?

The Reality
Applying vitamin B-1, or thiamine, to root systems of whole plants does not stimulate root growth. This is a myth that refuses to die, though it has been repeatedly refuted in the scientific literature. To understand why, it helps to think about this in a historical perspective. Many decades ago the plant growth regulators called auxins were isolated and characterized. Auxins were found to stimulate cell elongation in both root and shoot tissues. Commercial preparations were developed that contained auxin and vitamin B-1 among other ingredients. Research in 1949 found improved root development in plants treated with one of these preparations (Transplantone, which contains both auxin and thiamine), but noted the importance of auxins in this response. Further research throughout the last half of the 20th century investigating the application of auxins to root systems suggested that auxins may stimulate root growth, but that vitamin B-1 on its own does not. So what does work for stimulating root growth and reducing transplant shock? A review of the historical and current literature suggests the following:

Indole butyric acid (IBA) is one of the most common auxin formulations especially in tissue culture. In cuttings, it has been found to increase the number of roots, to increase rooting percentage, to increase both parameters, or to do neither. IBA has had some success in root regeneration in transplanted trees; it may help redirect resources to the roots by suppressing crown growth.

Naphthylacetic acid (NAA) is also a commonly used auxin and often the active ingredient in commercial preparations. NAA tends to be toxic to seedling root development, as it inhibits primary root growth and enhances lateral root growth. This latter activity may account for NAAâ??s success in regenerating roots of transplanted and root-pruned trees. Like IBA, NAA apparently suppresses crown growth, which also may redirect resources to the roots.

Paclobutrazol (PBZ) is another plant growth regulator that seems to stimulate root growth in containerized as well as established tree species. Like the auxins, PBZ reduces crown growth which may assist with root resources.

Fungicides may increase root growth, but overall this is not beneficial to the plant. Fungicides kill beneficial mycorrhizal species, and the lack of mycorrhizal colonization means that plants must put more resources into root growth than they would if mycorrhizae were present. Furthermore, there are beneficial fungi and bacteria that control pathogenic microbes and roots colonized by beneficial microbes have been shown to grow more than those without.

Nitrogen supplements can improve root growth, and conversely the absence of nitrogen will depress root growth. Uptake competition from bacteria, fungi, and other plants can be intense and so nitrogen is often limiting.

Vitamin B-1 (thiamine) is an important component of tissue culture media, in which isolated plant tissues can be propagated. Its use for stimulating root growth in whole plants is not supported in the literature and one study reported that root growth was greater in the control treatment (water) than with thiamine. Plants in the field manufacture their own source of thiamine and it is therefore unnecessary to add any additional levels. Many fungi and bacteria associated with plant roots also produce thiamine, so itâ??s likely that healthy soils will contain adequate levels of this vitamin without amendment.

Why does the mystique of vitamin B-1 transplant tonics still persist after decades of scientific debunking?

The Bottom Line
â?¢ Vitamin B-1, aka thiamine, does not reduce transplant shock or stimulate new root growth on plants outside the laboratory
â?¢ A nitrogen fertilizer is adequate for transplanting landscape plants; avoid use of â??transplant fertilizersâ?� that contain phosphate
â?¢ Healthy plants will synthesize their own thiamine supply
â?¢ Healthy soils contain beneficial microbes that synthesize thiamine as well
â?¢ Difficult-to-transplant species may be aided by application of auxin containing products in addition to nitrogen, but read the label and donâ??t add unnecessary and potentially harmful chemicals (this includes organics!)
â?¢ Adequate soil moisture is crucial for new root growth; be sure to irrigate new transplants frequently and use mulch to reduce evaporation

*You can contact Dr. Chalker-Scott at [email protected].

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Or at least a contact placebo effect based on the expectations of the gardener?
:smokin:

[HungryMcNasty]

my babies went through a shit load of stress and i used S.T. throughout the entire grow....7 out of 8 females. 1 hermie but i knew it was a hermie when it was a baby because i found it outside and saw pistils and nutsacks ....but i ripped th3e sacks off and revegged thinking it would be a 100% bitch instead i got a chick-with-a-dick..
much love....nasty

[postmandave]

Very intresting info kush .this is the stuff i love reading about A1 kush thanks.the postman.

[mobay]

heres the main bud after vegging for 1 week. white russian

[latewood]

After reading through the last 2 pages...I conclude that despite one guys published experiment or the ongoing debate here; Many growers use and are happy with the results of using superthrive...
You cannot tell an individual, that has grown and experienced certain positive results using superthrive, that it does not work.

However...I conclude that superthrive is another additive, that can be replaced with other "like" additives; Acheiving similar results. Liquid karma for instance. I use both ST and LK, and have also used Advanced nutrients B-52.

There is no doubt, that I have better faster germination rate with higher % females, using ST...

Now one more thing I would like to say about this subject.

You are all dedicated growers...taking the utmost care to grow the ultimate plant. Therefore, Regardless of what you use, You will have positive results...It's called 'KARMA'

I gotta go tend the garden lw

[mobay]

man let me tell you that this white russian weed is the shit.

[postmandave]

man i cant wait bro, compared to the jamiacan strain was it a lot better
as if it was man that cross with the wr will be sommit else.the postman.

[mobay]

man that jamacian weed is the best bro i have ever smoked. that shit puts your body and mind in places you never been before. if someone says that your not you, you would believe them lol

[TheHump]

Mobay...i got to ask. Did you start from seed or clone?

[mobay]

1 seed + superthrive + fox farm nutes = 100% female

[TheHump]

That is crazy from seed to flowering time in 1 week

[the image reaper]

That is crazy from seed to flowering time in 1 week

agreed ... :smokin:

[Tomthehippie]

Very Good thread! :)

[mobay]

yeah hippie looking back on this thread it is a very helpful thread. postmandave was having a bit of trouble with his plants and i had reminded him about superthrive. the very next day he told me that his plants are looking 100% better. he was gonna cut them down the day before we talked about superthrive.

[postmandave]

Yeh mobay is correct.superthrive just saved a whole crop that was heading for the chop due to very bad ph probs (First go at hydro heehee)mobay said dave man put a quart tablespoon of superthrive in the res stablise the ph and leave them and they perked up in 24 hours now they are looking as if they will be ok . so mobay my good freind thanks again bro once again ur advice was bang on. gratitude mate.be safe all the postman.