Heroin

[Eshelmen]

No i`m not going to do any but... `im just wondering why i never see a thread on it?
On erowid it says euphoric feelings and shit.. though is highly addicting...so is mdma right?
well my point here is ... whats good about heroin effects and whats bad... just wanted to know... LIke erowid.. only gives a few words, i want more explanation... I`ve seen basketball diaries where he is throwing up from the after effects but i dunno, its just a movie

[187]

mdma is not highly addicting

[Hoy Ho]

heroin isnt all as bad as its reputation has it. it is real addictive tho but it's not that different from strong painkillers like morphine but if u say u did heroin every1 is like OMG WTF!!!

[duhrickjames]

The reason heroin has such a bad rap is because of untrustworthy dealers.

You see, heroin is so expensive that most dealers and distributors cut their stash with chemicals like rat poison and strichnine. Basically, whatever is the cheapest look-alike powder they can find.

100% pure heroin wouldn't deserve the same bad rap that street h gets.

It is HIGHLY addictive. If you get hooked you'll probably need professional rehabilitation to get off of it. Don't kid yourself and think "I've tried mary and I'm not addicted, I can stay off heroin too."

H gives you extremely feelings of euphoria followed by a very depressing crash when you return to the real world. This is why most people become addicts. They love the feeling of the high so much that being in the real world is just boring. People go on H binges like they do with coke. It's scary stuff, kiddo.

[BestTonicIsChronic]

Ya heroins got a real bad reputation for turning people into junkies. But hey anything is gonna fuck you up if your doing it to live. My advice is you can do it just dont do it often, moderation is key. But ya I dont like the idea of putting a needle into my arm, so Ill stick to Oxys.

[Nullific]

Duhrickjames, your statements are on the right track but I find them to be inversely exaggerated...if that is a valid expression. Street heroin is generally cut with a plethora of other substances depending on the area but most should be absent of strychnine or poisons of such toxicity. Dealers don't necessarily want to kill their customers, at least not so instantaneously.
More common cutting agents are lactose, mannitol, sugar, vitamin b12, talc powder etc. It is true these cuts can make use of street heroin harmful by precipitating collapsed veins and infections for intravenous users.
The user never really knows how pure their heroin is and there is also a risk of it containing other, more potent opioids such as fentanyl. If they had originally been using impure product and then receive some of higher-purity or which contains active cuts they might not bother to test it and instead go right to administering their 'normal' dose, risking an overdose.

Many people seem to believe heroin must injected. This is not true, it can be insufflated and smoked but shooting gives addicts the most bang for their buck. Heroins never made me 'crash' either, just itch and sleep.

[notrightquite]

That thing with everyone going THAT far to get the most bang for the buck is just creepy.

[Ripper]

Theres no such thing as moderation with heroin....whether or not you thing you can 'just walk away' you cant.....you'll always remeber how good it was and everytime you have a problem you'll think hmmmm no i lklittle toot/dig would just take that away just now. Even after say 9/10 years clean.

Unless that is your one of the lucky ones who go, bluuuuurgh and are sick everywhere and hate it, but they are rare.

"If a man smokes 3 pipes of opium a day for three months he will be as addicted as a ninety year old addict" Opium Conference in the 19oo's testimony from a chinese delegate

My advice STAY AWAY

[Nullific]

If a man does anything pleasurable three times a day for three months he's probably going to find it difficult to stop. Of course he'll have withdrawals but likely less tolerance and thus less severe withdrawals than a 99 year old addicts. Note that a person addicted to opium or pharmaceutical grade heroin could live the rest of their lives that way. Society doesn't allow use of opioids as a legal commodity, but of course they are still available on the blackmarket.
Unfortunately heroin is twice as addictive as morphine which comprises about 20% of opium. Not many underground organizations are going to import opium. Instead they use the raw opium, purify it and convert it into a more active product which is then redistributed, cut and purchased by a user who has no idea what it contains at a high price.

[james34]

I had a friend die the third time trying heroin...none for me.

[Ripper]

My advice to stay away did not just come from that delegates quote abut a three pipe a day habit................It came from personal expereince

So again

STAY AWAY

[CocaCola]

Personal experience... not anyone elses... is that such a fucking difficult concept? Your experience will be different from anothers... STAY AWAY!1 Why? Cause you got a addicted? Sorry, but not everyone is as stupid as you were.

[StOneD.aS.FuK]

The reason heroin has such a bad rap is because of untrustworthy dealers.

You see, heroin is so expensive that most dealers and distributors cut their stash with chemicals like rat poison and strichnine. Basically, whatever is the cheapest look-alike powder they can find.

100% pure heroin wouldn't deserve the same bad rap that street h gets.

It is HIGHLY addictive. If you get hooked you'll probably need professional rehabilitation to get off of it. Don't kid yourself and think "I've tried mary and I'm not addicted, I can stay off heroin too."

H gives you extremely feelings of euphoria followed by a very depressing crash when you return to the real world. This is why most people become addicts. They love the feeling of the high so much that being in the real world is just boring. People go on H binges like they do with coke. It's scary stuff, kiddo.


yea i saw a documentary about the life of heroin addicts + ICE, METH and coke addicts...and it aint cool.

they bascily wake up each moring scab the money to find the drugs, when when they do they shoot up all day...go to sleep, wake up then repeat. everyday

most of them were living in the streets, or in slums, with their families ashamed of them and never in contact with them..

fuck herion and all those drugs...yea sure im curious and id be tempted to try it once. but i know i would want more and get addicted cause im addicted to the high from dope, and hate not being stoned. and if herion makes me feel like the king of the world, i know i will want more and eventually i will be an addict and my life wil be fucked..

its common sence to see that.

but its your life.

[Nullific]

Don't we all just wake up each morning, do something all day, go to sleep and repeat throughout our miserable lives?

[CocaCola]

Yes, but you crackheads are worse...

[IanCurtisWishlist]

I tried heroin. Basically it just makes you feel really relaxed and well, and you just don't give a fuck. you feel very pleasant and at higher doses you feel very very pleasant and get rushing. then you drift off into wonderful sleep. when coming down i got the sweats a little bit but it was a fun experience. just try to not do it so often you know?

[Euphoric]

I have an extremely addictive personality as it is..give me a physical and psychological addiction on top of that?? No way man, id be living in the gutters and alleys looking for herion for life (which would end up being pretty short).

I think it should be legal, though. Legal, controlled taxed and regulated.

But like alcohol, meth, crack and std infested streetwalkers..i wouldnt fck with em

[tokinggreg]

I have an extremely addictive personality as it is..give me a physical and psychological addiction on top of that?? No way man, id be living in the gutters and alleys looking for herion for life (which would end up being pretty short).

I think it should be legal, though. Legal, controlled taxed and regulated.

But like alcohol, meth, crack and std infested streetwalkers..i wouldnt fck with em

wth? you wouldn't try alcohol..? that's weird dude.

[Eshelmen]

i wasnt saying i`m going to do heroin... i just wanted to know why its so bad..

ok i guess the chance of getting addicted is a good chance

[Exsaverof]

It's generally not an instant addiction, the addiction to opiates usually happens over time. Your mind and body will become acclimated to opiates so subtly that you will be physically addicted before you even realize it. Do H, or any opiate, for long enough and you will become addicted, and you will suffer from withdrawls. Some people take longer than others to become physically dependent, but that doesn't mean it won't happen to you.

Now if you're going to smoke some H every once in a while are you going to be an addict? Of course not, but say you start off doing H once in a blue moon, and then it becomes once a month, and then once every two weeks, and then once a week, you're still not addicted right? Then you start to get cold sweats out of nowhere. You think nothing of it, but when you smoke some H it all goes away, and then the cycle starts. H binge, getting sick from withdrawls, taking more opiates to feel better, rinse and repeat.

The general population might over-exaggerate the dangers of Opiates and Heroin use, but that doesn't mean it can't kill you and it doesn't mean you won't get addicted. Be careful, be safe, and know the risks.

[andruejaysin]

^^^Well said, though you would have to do alot more than once a week before withdrawls become a problem. Went through withdrawls once, from dilaudiud. Since then I never use any opiate more than 4 days on, 3 off, and have had none.

[Euphoric]

wth? you wouldn't try alcohol..? that's weird dude.

ive got drunk like a hundred times :p

[Prozac fairy]

hmmm heroin is a drug which is most destructive than any other drugs so they say. But its not as addictive as u think ...they say it takes more than 5 times of trin the drug before becoming addictive. Now if ur like me and try basically anythin once, that wud be enough (yet being honest i dont have a particular desire to take heroin) But be safe man

[CYRAX]

If u want to live to enjoy ur pleasurable drug for years and years, stick with the good old plants of nature ;)

[tokinggreg]

If u want to live to enjoy ur pleasurable drug for years and years, stick with the good old plants of nature ;)

like opium? from the all natural opium poppy? wth is your point?

[enthused]

i think he means cannabis

[Psycho4Bud]

NEIL YOUNG - Needle And The Damage Done Lyrics
I caught you knockin'
at my cellar door
I love you, baby,
can I have some more
Ooh, ooh, the damage done.

I hit the city and
I lost my band
I watched the needle
take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done.

I sing the song
because I love the man
I know that some
of you don't understand
Milk-blood
to keep from running out.

I've seen the needle
and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's
like a settin' sun.

[glock18]

Do not try it unless you have an unaddictive personality otherwise you will face extreme pain if you can't get any more. Otherwise if you have a shitload use it until it's up then go to rehab and get suboxone.

[Nexus07083]

:)(:

I'm high

[Ap0c4lyPtIcF4t3]

If you wanna do some, just smoke it

this is meaning you have a tar or brown heroin

ive never heard of smoking the white shit so dont take my advice wholeheartdly!

Just remember, you pay for what you do and when your down in the shitter....you got yourself there!

[WaKeNvAp]

yeah, just get a vapor bro esque vaporizer and just get mad baked. safer funner and its not looked down upon. just my opinion