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CrusadeBoxer
03-30-2006, 10:40 PM
Which is better which is cheaper. Having a good ventalition system or having Co2. You really only need ventalition if you have heating problems or want your lights closer to your plants. If you have ventilation you don't need C02. If you have C02 you don't need ventilation. So which would be cheaper which would be better.

turtle420
03-30-2006, 10:49 PM
Well, I don't know if my answers are 100% right, but it's my input:::

With CO2, the plant will grow faster during veg (not that you'll veg for 2 days...).
During flowering, you can get "nice" looking buds, to say the least.
With CO2, you are one of the few that run it.
If you run CO2 with ppm meters, controllers, exhaust fans, cycles, and such, you'll be the envy of your local chapter of Indoor Cannabis Sunday Gatherings Club,
If done right, you'll be very cool. Indeed.

But with CO2, you should run a/c to keep temperatures within check... unless you have a super-duper dialed-in grow/ventilation/light setup.

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Ventilation, well... it grows along just fine. Maybe it's less hassle... Ok, it's definitely less hassle.

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Just my 4 cents.

CrusadeBoxer
03-31-2006, 12:00 AM
What is less hassel. The C02 or the ventilation?

I thought it would be les hassel to have an air tight room with c02 and all the stuff that goes with it rather than ventalition. Plus it would be cheaper.

Zandor
03-31-2006, 02:43 AM
Ventilation is cheaper and easer.

But remember you go cheap you grow cheap.

CrusadeBoxer
03-31-2006, 03:22 AM
Ventilation is also more risky. If you don't have your oder control in check people will be able to smell your grow right.

CrusadeBoxer
03-31-2006, 03:23 AM
how do you pull air through a carbon scrubber. The air that is being pushed though the lights and out into another room or outside, should I just put the carbon scrubber on the duct before it goes outside or wat.

britewire
03-31-2006, 05:54 AM
Here's an example how I've set the carbone scrubber up in combination with the cooltubes. Works great, really.


http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52912&d=1141067674

http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=56587&d=1143252356

turtle420
03-31-2006, 10:53 AM
Here's an example how I've set the carbone scrubber up in combination with the cooltubes. Works great, really.]
Ahhh... beautiful setup, BriteWire! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Very nice...

But people, please note, BriteWire has a high-quality, high-performance fan in there... at the right side, on top of the cool tubes.... can you see that fan?

What's that BriteWire? Fantech? What brand? Inches? And CFM? (if possible).

Brite, is that fan pushing, or pulling that air through the cool tubes? I would guess PULLING air, because then it goes into the carbon air scrubber...

britewire
03-31-2006, 05:08 PM
I´ve really got no idea witch brand fan that is. It´s an about 3 inch fitting to the fan witch sucks the air thru the carbon scrubber and blows the excess air thru the cooltubes. The fan is about 100 cubic meters per hour air flow.

Got an 80 cubic meters per hour air intake on the side of the cabinet, so I always got some under-pressure in the room that insures that the smell stays where it needs to be. An ceramic (no glowing coil in the dark period) electric heating fan with thermostat in the room for air circulation and an constant temperature.

(Next sunday I´ll update my 6x powerplant thread)

Moose101
04-02-2006, 04:01 AM
Hey there guys. If I were to get a pet like a ginnie pig or something for CO2, would it be enough? And more importantly can any pet not attract mites? I just want to get 2 clones and use 1 light. Build a special 4x3x6 cabinet. I'ld put the cage beside the cabinet where there is an intake fan (it would be a decent sized fan, maybe enough to suck the fur off the poor animal). If I can make some of my money back within the first grow, I'll buy more lights and stuff. If not I'll try again. Personally, it just seems unnatural to create CO2 just for photosynthesis.

Crimsondane
04-02-2006, 05:16 AM
Honestly, Turtle is right.. Again..

Run a ventilation setup and not a Co2..If you in a cabinet drill a hole in the bottom about the size of a baseball for passive intake. then dril a hole above the lights and on the side or back .. and opposite the side the bottom hole is on(for air circulation). Attach a 80 cfm fan to the wall (top hole) with a cover and and wire it.
I did the math at Home Depot and it costs about 30 for fan.

I my self just bought a Utility cabinet from Lowes and it for 118.00 bucks.
I is seperated in the middle for 24 inches on both sides. so I set up a mother side and a flower side. and instead of putting 2 fans in for each side. im gunna run Duct through the seperation wall from the mom side to the flower side cool both lamps (keeping the temp down) and ventilating in fresh air from the mother side floor.

really its cheap
50 bucks tops

And i really dont know how much Co2 a small animal would produce..
i mean if you put a lil piggy in a airtight box, ... it would probably die in an hour from Co2 poisoning.

Crimsondane
04-02-2006, 05:17 AM
Time for an experiment

Grins Evily

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sigh

turtle420
04-02-2006, 11:48 AM
If I were to get a pet like a ginnie pig or something for CO2, would it be enough?
aHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

(I hope that was a joke)

Ahahaahahaahahaaaaaa!!!!!!

Don't get a pig man... you're going to kill it.... AHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAHHH!AAA!!!

But, kudos man... thinking with your scientific mind... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

rev
05-12-2006, 09:39 PM
what if you want to co2 AND ventillate for heat. Impossible cause the fans will blow out the co2? I've got a tank, regulator, etc., but dont know the levels

Zandor
05-13-2006, 04:26 PM
Sealed lights don't put vented air into the room so if you have sealed lights and air in from the outside through the lights and back out the otherside of the room then it will not effect the CO².

britewire
05-13-2006, 05:10 PM
what if you want to co2 AND ventillate for heat. Impossible cause the fans will blow out the co2? I've got a tank, regulator, etc., but dont know the levels


When you REALLY want a professional growing setup and you have some serious money to invest in it. you'll need these:

1. Growroom controler (regulates when the co² injection is active and regulates the fans in combination with the co² gasses)

2. Decent fans (size depends on the size of your room and number of lights)
2a. A isolated box you hung the fans in (softbox technique)

3. Carbon scrubbers

4. Heaters (heating mats for the soil wirk pretty good)

5. co² injection kit.

And this all work together when you programmed the growroom controller decently.

MegaOctane12
05-13-2006, 07:20 PM
Co2 is for people with whole rooms. Its for factorys. Its definately not needed for a small closet. Ventilation, just one computer fan blowing inward would do the job because Co2 and ventilation go hand in hand. Also you can actually buy Co2 tablets which dissolve in water which work perfectly. Britwires fan make is Lti Systemair they are very good fans for intake and exhaust.

britewire
05-14-2006, 09:17 AM
Got those co² tablets... they do work good on VEG but I didn't notice any differance while blossoming.