2,500 lbs of Marijuana seized

[hardon]

For those of you living in Philly....:(

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/27/AR2006032702268.html

PHILADELPHIA -- A burglary call at a house led to the seizure of roughly 2,500 pounds of pot worth about $11.6 million on the street, police said Monday.

It was believed to be the largest marijuana bust in the city in more than 40 years.


Police responding to a 911 burglary call Saturday night at a home in West Philadelphia searched the home and discovered 120 bales of pot in the basement.

Two men were arrested and charged. One of the men told police someone had paid him to use the house as a storage facility.

The seizure "was the biggest we've had in 42 years that we know of," said Police Commissioner Sylvester Johnson.


thats about fucking gay, and I think we can all agree with that :mad:

[geonagual]

Thats a damn shame. That could of been my lifetime supply

[Toker4LifeVT]

man that sucks now prices are gonna go up elsewhere...

[Kryzco]

all I can say

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN THATS A LOT OF WEED!!!

Damn them pigs!!

[imagoober]

Damn, how stupid do you have to be to invite the fucking police into you house when you have 2,500 pounds of pot in you basement! fucking idiots! its shit like that which causes people to believe the stereotypes about stoners being stupid!

[captaincannabis]

Why would anyone call the lawdogs when sitting on so much herb.Somebody
owes somebody an explanation,not to mention a lifetime of service to pay that off.Some people huh!
Captaincannabis ,gotta go now.

[Johny Pot Seed]

What upset me more about this seizure is that the police commissioner repeatidly referred to the marijuana as narcotics, and how the city is working harder and putting more recourses into getting this narcotic off of the streets of Philadelphia. I'm no chemist so I was wondering what defines a narcotic? Is it only a classification that the government can place any substance or is it defined by chemical content? Or by the way it interacts with the body?

[suhl]

imi pretty sure they didnt make the call it was probably a fake burglarly call from someone who new they had it. because unless they had something else in their house that was worth more than 11.5 million dollars they probably knew not to call the cops. that or, and im not saying this is what happened but it could have, the cops were aware they had it but lacked the evidence for a search so lied about the burglarly call

[orangeman]

Awww, man they need to legalize this shit. Theres no reason why marijuana should be "seized" like it's some kind of gun running business or something.

[thecurious1]

LEO can't enter your home without a warrant and/or permission regardless of the situation.

They can't just show up at your door, say they recieved a call, and start searching your home for illegal substances.

[suhl]

well its possible they could have lied. i cant see any circumstance where the guys who owned the house/weed would have ever let the cops in there.

[thecurious1]

Lied about what? It doesn't matter. Let me show you how easy it is.

LEO: "Knock knock"
(open door)

YOU: "Hello officer, is there a problem?"

LEO: "We received a call reporting robbery at this address."

YOU: "Gee, everything is fine here. I certainly didn't make a call but I do appreciate you taking your time to make sure everything is ok."

LEO: "Do you mind if we come in for a second?"

YOU: "Honestly officer I'd rather not since everything is ok. I just want to go back to bed and I apologize for you having to make the trip but again, I do appreciate the quick response had something been wrong."

LEO: "Why can't we come in. Are you hiding something?"

YOU: "Absolutley not. But I do enjoy exercising my constituitional rights. Is there anything else you need before I retire back to bed officer?"

LEO: "Sorry for the mistake. Have a good night."

YOU: "You too officer"
(close door)

See, it's that simple. The police CAN NOT...repeat CAN NOT enter your home without a warrant and/or YOUR PERMISSION.

If they do, it's an ILLEGAL SEARCH and the case would be thrown out of court in a heartbeat. Any DECENT lawyer could make that happen.

Now, there are some cases where they may enter your home without your permission. One example might be a domestic violence call where the parties involved are still in the home and fighting. In order to solve such a call its obvious that officers must beable to enter the home and subdue the problem.

Eitherway, they can't just make up a problem, come to your home, and enter to search your property.

And honesly, if the police had proof this guy had that much cannabis in his home before hand do you think it would have been that hard to get a judge to sign a warrant? NO

They certainly wouldn't risk blowing the whole case by doing it illegally when they can just as easily setup a sting and make their department look good by making a huge bust.

We are talking about some serious weight here people.... If they truely knew what this guy had before hand, they would have busted down his doors and thrown a warrrant at his face.

Sounds to me like a stupid "criminal" story.

[friendowl]

i bet you anything a women was involved.
she probonly got mad called 911 then said some dumb shit
or hung up.either way once you call they have to clear the house.

[thecurious1]

What probally happened was someone panicked and called the police.
They came and asked if they could come in.

Now here's where %99.9 of people make the mistake. They get nervous and allow LEO to search their home/car. I think people tend to think if they say no it will make them look guilty so they just grab their ballz, say yes, and pray LEO won't find what they've hidden.

And TADA! Before you know it they found Lots "o" pot when all you had to do in the first place was prove to LEO you KNOW YOUR RIGHTS and will STICK BY THEM.

[scooterjay]

i'll be willing to bet a bowl that there are some stoned pigs in philly right now! damn "peace officers"...what a joke!

[Oneironaut]

Warrants are a thing of the past. Haven't you heard of the PATRIOT Act?

[3rdEyeVision]

I think it would be harder than just saying no, last time I tried that i got the handcuffs lol

[suhl]

im not listening to anyone who says these guys asked the cops to come into their house unless io comes from their mouth. i am well aware you have to give permission. im also well aware the if you had 2500 pound in your house you could probably smell it the second the door was opened, which would give the cops probable cause to search the house.

[thecurious1]

The Patriot Act doesn't give the police the right to enter your home whenever they feel like it.

I've had these same debates on overgrow (RIP).

Fact is, if you show an officer that you're intelligent and know your rights things will go smoother. If you show them you are nervous they will assume you are guilty of something and use that nervousness against you.

The majority of people who get busted are people who gave CONSENT for a search. This is a FACT people!

You can argue all you want, pretend like we have no control and the police can do whatever they want. The simple fact is you are WRONG and spreading such ideas only harms the people's opinions of what they can and can't control.

If LEO busts you without providing a warrant, consent of search, or reasonable doubt (via smell or visually seeing illegal items/activies). Then get yourself a GOOD lawyer and things will start looking up.

If you got busted before and believe I'm full of crap.... chances are you probally:

A) Consented to a search
B) Received a warrant
C) Had illegal items laying around in plain view
D) Had no odor control
E) Physically/Verbally assaulted the officer and pizzed them off.


Does that mean all busts are legal? NO. But it does mean if you KNOW your rights you can fight back. If not preventing them from illegaling finding something, then to expose the illegal search during court.

During college one of my professors was Ex-DEA and we use to talk about this sorta thing ALL..THE..TIME. She hated watching fellow LEO members step over people's rights but she ALSO knew that those who it happened to generally ALLOWED it to happen.

Moral of the Story: Don't give LEO anything they could use to step over your rights. Speak with intelligence, be nice, don't "act" like a stoner, and stick to your "legal" guns.

If they threaten to search anyways, tell them they're making your lawyers job must easier. lol

If you don't BELIEVE in your rights, you don't have ANY. PERIOD!

[thecurious1]

suhl, that's the whole point of this thread is it not?

Why would you call the police to your house knowing full well you have tons of stinky sticks in your home?

A) Panick
B) Stupidity

But to say that LEO made the whole things up just to walk in their home to search for pot is highly unlikely. That would assume they knew what they had before hand. And if they had that information they can easily get a warrant.

Thus, making this "The police made a false report just to bust this guy" arguement pretty pointless.

[Johny Pot Seed]

The news reported that it was an abandoned house they were using. One of the people from the neighborhood watch noticed people coming and going from the building and called the police. So there seems to be no issue with the police entering a private residence.

[GluteusMaximus]

There are many tactics to get an officer permission to enter one's house. This one is classic....

The 911 call goes out from a woman on a cell phone parked outside the house (to verify her proximity to the house). She tells the police that she's being held hostage in the house by a rapist and gives the address and is suddenly cut off as she screams. The police show up and search the house. Because there is enough evidence of a person receiving harm if the police do not act, they WILL/MUST search the house.

Since this was a "burglary" call, I have to assume a neighbor made the call (perhaps seeing someone going after some free bud) and nobody was at the residence when the police arrived, then that neighbor becomes the necessary tool to get the police to enter the home.

2500 lbs of dried cured weed (unless skunk), doesn't produce near the odor a fresh grow room produces with just a few plants. I seriously doubt the police got a whiff of it.

I wonder how many cops looked like stuffed scarecrow after hauling the weed off.:stoned:

[thecurious1]

That makes more sense then.

If the house was abandoned and they recieved a suspicious activity report that should be enough to allow them to enter the building legally.

It's no different than lets say......

Your neighboor reporting a robbery at your home while you are not home. Obviously LEO must enter the home to see what's going on. If they see/smell anything while this is going on you can certainly get introuble.

But the police can't make something up just to enter a home. That's ILLEGAL and will cause instant dissmissal of any charges brought to in a court of law.

Why do you think some people who comit horrid crimes get their cases thrown out of court? Because LEO did something illegal.

A good lawyer would make the prosecutor/LEO prove the report was legit.
Make the dispatcher appear in court and take a look at the report logs to make sure things add up.

It wouldn't be hard to prove whether a legit call of concern was reported or not that led up to the search and siezure of illegal items in your home.

[rhino44]

i saw this on the news. all u could see were these 3x3x1 bales wrapped about 100 times with plastic. i wonder what grade of weed it was?

[higher4hockey]

i was at a rally race with some cops from philly. they were actually pretty cool, they were even narcotics cops. they were telling us that weed wasnt shit to them, they would much rather have people smoking indo than doing the harder stuff.

[xblackdogx]

I think it would be harder than just saying no, last time I tried that i got the handcuffs lol
yeah, they get us nervous... then they go in for the kill

[HazeItUp]

i would of beaten him to death then moved to mexico.

[d00d989]

201 lbs of pot were confiscated yesterday here in south dakota :(