MOBAY VS KARMAXUL THOUGHTS

[Garden Knowm]

nice bucket.;... have you used this before.. has anybody?

[graph]

I've seen it before and heard good things about it. Never used it though.

[mobay]

never used it before GK but i will in june, can you imagine that 99 degrees from this tub. that was my main problem i was going to have was the temps.

[karmaxul]

Turtle what if you set up a exhaust system that takes the air of the room from under the plants by the net cups. This way any fog that comes up will be exhausted and the airflow is increased to the stoma?

[turtle420]

never used it before GK but i will in june, can you imagine that 99 degrees from this tub. that was my main problem i was going to have was the temps.
Mobay, dude,... you saw 99 degrees Farenheit inside your tub???

Or do you mean that you would be seeing 99 degrees if you do it in june?

Just interested...

BTW: Thanks for the correction on the micron size droplet thingy... :)


Turtle what if you set up a exhaust system that takes the air of the room from under the plants by the net cups. This way any fog that comes up will be exhausted and the airflow is increased to the stoma?
Hey KuL,
"stoma"?
Sorry dude, I'm lost in newbie-land. Let me google some...
Ok, I found this:
http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/BioBookPLANTANAT.html

So, the stoma... increased airflow...

Ok, I think I see it... but, in your setup, the fogger would be running constantly?

I can see (I think) the good part about the fog flowing past the stoma(s)... but one thing that has had me concerned, is the possibility of having a SCRoGoFM... what's that?

Screen of Green of Fucking Mold

I think that with the excess fog floating through the buds, mold will be... rampant?

???? Ideas???? I don't know.

<<<<<>>>>>
I'm gonna try it out... I'm gonna install the NutraMist unit inside the cabinet, feeding fog to two 5 gallon buckets. I'm gonna start tweaking some cycles (1minON/9minOFF, or 3/7)....

Yeah! It's gonna work... the vacuum on the OUTLET of the fog, will be exactly the same vacuum on the INLET of the fog (NutraMist fan). Thus, no net-airflow will "flow" through the system... so, the roots won't dry... as much...

Hmmm.... hmmmm.... :)

What you say gK?

[FERMENTATION]

This fogger talk should be moved to a new thread. It needs to be said but not in here.

I feel dirty now.

Bastards.

Yes, I lurked through this shit.

I feel like I just watch a shitty soap on TV.

Why the fuck is this in Indoor Growing.

Fuck you all.

Turtle did you start a thread for your fogger experiences? I remember you had one before and when you got it but this is the first I have heard of your negative experience. Don't answer me in here start a new thread, please.

[Garden Knowm]

LOL


Hey turtle.. the problem with sucking all the fog away is that it will take away valuable water and nutrients...

I say you have to figure out awau tpo stop the fog from coming out..
some sort of fine screen that catches the fogg...

SOME super duper micrn screen..
I am syre SIR DORKY MOBAY
and The king of geeks... KARMA can tell you where you can get a super fine screen...

you feel me?

love

[karmaxul]

Fermy, dude, it is in the indoor thread as we are indoor growers. We searched for a genius thread but came up short so it was placed here. It took much deliberation and numerous hours of planing to find the proper place for this thread. Your concern is well noted and I thank you for voicing your opinion.

Turtle, the fogger system intakes air on the table you have I believe, what if the air intake was from where the fog chamber is, that way no air will need to escape and there will be no pressure to force it out. The only other way would be to use the fogger device in a floating cup as sorts like seen in Mobays set up.

Gknome what about silk screen

[mobay]

no turtle i never seen 99 degrees, 85 was my top temp in my box, it was 70- 80 degrees daily. but that was in the winter time and summer coming soon it will get hotter outside my grow box causing the inside to get up in temps. so i was saying with the co2 boost i wont have a problem when the temps get up to 99 degrees.

[Garden Knowm]

SILK SCREEN...
hmmm

and Karma.. do you think that the fog hittng the silhk screen and then driping back into the reservor will effect the PH...

Does the silk screen material have a PH?

Sounds like a good idea to me turtle..
See how smart I am..
I knew that Karma or Mobay would solve your problem.. I am a genuis...

[Garden Knowm]

ermy, dude, it is in the indoor thread as we are indoor growers. We searched for a genius thread but came up short so it was placed here. It took much deliberation and numerous hours of planing to find the proper place for this thread. Your concern is well noted and I thank you for voicing your opinion.

LOL

[Garden Knowm]

Ferm.. i can't really speak for Karma..

but as for me and Mobay and turtle..
well we kinda think we own this place and just throw are shit all over the place.. Underwear on the TV... used condom on the kitchen counter...

porn dvd's on the kitchen table...

sorry , we will try to clean our shit up a bit..

but now that we have this thread... I think we are gonna stick with it awhile and really do some hard core bonding.. so .. LOL
so...
umm...

yeah
that's it..

i love you-

[turtle420]

Hey guys, thanks for the replies... I read all of them...

And laughed very hard at some of them....

I'm taking your suggested ideas with me for the day, run them through my stoner brain, and I'll post later tonight... .

It's just that these days, man, I don't have 20 free minutes... Right now, I've got to run out the door 'cause I'm running late already.

But, thank you all VERY much for all your help, interesting ideas... Now I feel that this fog thing is going to WORK!!! :) :D

BTW: Fermentation... lol lol lol !!!! "Dirty soap".... lol !!!!

Thanks guys,

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[mobay]

SOME super duper micrn screen..
I am syre SIR DORKY MOBAY
and The king of geeks... KARMA can tell you where you can get a super fine screen...

you feel me?


GK explain this to me

[Jdog7000]

I'm using the CO2 Boost right now...and it is killer. Gotta love an organic form of CO2 that you can run right along your leaves it's so safe! My growth rate in veg doubled when I added the co2 boost bucket...I'm flowering those now with the same bucket!So I'll probably need another one to finish with.You'll see it soon G knowm...Karmaxul I gotta hand it to you.I layed it out there for you and you didn't bite.I can't help but respect you for that. You jerk o...jk...I'm glad you don't take the crap on here to literally.
Sometimes when I think of forums...I picture ppl puking threw there finger tips!:thumbsup:

[Garden Knowm]

Mobay.. I am saying.. THAT you are a NERD... and so is karama.. GROW nerds..
you 2 are the grow nerd OG style.. ORIGINAL GANGSTA..

You guys wear skin tight... tights and a little holsters when you work around your garden.. You probably have a mask too... like the lone ranger

and your very own theme song that you hum as you whirl around the garden...

and a super hero's utility belt and BLUE tights... you have some eistein oil hanging from your belt and some sticky traps... maybe some special treats for the plants.. like some Nitrogen pills.... you have a ph tester and maybe some high tech shit that I dont even know exisists that you made in your super heros LAB

So I figured you could help Turtle....

LOL

[karmaxul]

I would post pictures of my superhero outfit I got for my birthday but I dont want to scare people. Besides how can you be a super hero without a secert identity.

So I called up the DEA headquarter in DC today cuz I was bored and felt like getting hung up on. So the first call I give them my name and they hang up on me. Same with the second. The third I got some one who has been there 18 years to do an interview. His reason why cannabis should be illegal was basically if 1000 people smoke the night before and 999 are fine the next morning there is that one person who wakes up and says I dont want to go to work today. They go to the pool at there apartment complex and dive in for a swim. The pool has no water and they break there neck and die. He said he knows this dead person aswell. I guess they were huffing gas at the DEA today.

Check it out on kazaa with some other good calls. type in deaphone. the one today is entitled ; deaphone - V019 March 23 DEA interview special agent Garison Childress DEA is unaware there is synthetic heroin flodding the streets

I have extremly fast internet so it should be a quick download. I dont know how to put them on bittorrent or I would.

I emailed about 50 people in congress about it telling them to download it and mostly all the media in canada, o and some embassies.

[karmaxul]

I am putting my phone calls on my website so you dont have to download them. go to the interview tab.

[sheist]

or perhaps.. with a lil devil's advocate, we can say "karama x u l" is karma 4 u all, as in karma for everyone on the website.. THE FEDS ARE COMIN FOR THE SITE!!

[Garden Knowm]

hey karma..
you know that your menu bar does not pop up on my computer...
i have to press "STOP" while it is uploading to catch the menu bar...

I use SAFARI

i would like to find your phone calls. can you link me?

thanks

BEcareful dude

[smoknjoe]

FERMENTATOIN wasn't suggesting moving this thread to a different forum, he was suggesting starting a new thread within this forum about the fog topic. People often skip over new posts in old threads if they are not interested in the topic. I agree, because the fog topic is quite interesting and it would get much more input in a new thread.

[karmaxul]

Gnome the bar at the top of the page just says www.gorillagrow.org. This cool chick taught me how to do tons of stuff regarding programing the site last night so it should be cool when I get a chance to work on it

[ValiumForMe]

Domain ID: D114654698-LROR
Domain Name:GORILLAGROW.ORG
Created On:03-Feb-2006 19:21:15 UTC
Last Updated On:03-Feb-2006 19:21:19 UTC
Expiration Date:03-Feb-2007 19:21:15 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Register.com Inc. (R71-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:36847075c6a36354
Registrant Name:Chris Seekins
Registrant Organization:Gorilla Grow
Registrant Street1:24
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:WINSTED
Registrant State/Province:CT
Registrant Postal Code:06098
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone: (Deleted, for privacy reasons)
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:
Admin ID:85989855c6641643
Admin Name:Chris Seekins
Admin Organization:Gorilla Grow
Admin Street1:24
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:WINSTED
Admin State/Province:CT
Admin Postal Code:06098
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone: (Deleted, for privacy reasons)
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:

Alright, so a few of you won't be able to read this. What this says is that Christopher Seekins of CT created gorillagrow.org, under the email address [email protected]. He set it up with an apache server, which runs out of Fort Lauderdale in Florida. This was run through register.com, which is where he registered the name for the site.

I can go into a complex explanation of how I got this information, which I will be more than happy to do to prove karmaxul is not Trichome Creator.

By the way, CS, I also saw the side of your house. That's pretty good.
That's a who is on a domain. How the fuck did that take you a half an hour and how the fuck does that prove anything?

I own over 100 domains all registered to fake addresses with fake names paid with the same credit card.

Don't come in here trying to act leet when you're running a simply whois. I was expecting traceroute information posted or something, but a fucking whois, that proves fuck all.

[ValiumForMe]

yo man can you do that for this web site the mother fucker owes me 7000 dollars http://alohamexico.com/

your computer skills amaze me:thumbsup:
1. http://www.whois.net
2. plug in address.
3. hit submit
4. ?
5. Profit

[ValiumForMe]

sorry, I'm not a gorilla. I was just implying that I was the one who proved you wrong, and if you owe anyone 100 dollars around here, it's me. Now, I could explain the process of reverse tracing dns servers, searching geolocations, etc., but you probably still won't believe me. I don't think you're helping anyone anymore, you're just attacking people.
Please stop acting so leet, you ran a who is search.

A retarded monkey tripping on mescaline could run a DNS search.

[karmaxul]

Hey man leave the monkeys out of this.
Ummmm mescaline:)

[mobay]

valium4me for 57 post, and only being here for 3 weeks, you are a very smart guy, with your searching. glad 2 meet you.

[mobay]

valium4me you are 1 bad ass guy, i just did everything you said and it came up exactly. so karmaxul and graph can u2 explain this? the truth shall set you free.

and to add to this, i dont think you have the balls to call the dea and piss them off grow 100 plants in your house. before you continue with your parade you should read all you wrote under zero revolt and trichome creator so you dont cross yourself up. you found an interesting article and ran with it taking over someone elses identity. and all the post your making of this guy will only get him into more trouble.so go back to being TC and continue helping others.

and you never answered me about the wire transfer. 1st and last name , city and state. so i can get you your 100 dollars. you know you cant recieve the 100 dollars with Conn. info and pick it up in savannah, georgia. 1932 h-------- st. 1-912___-__96

[karmaxul]

I made the paper again today so I got to get a copy to check it out any ways. I am hoping it will come in the mail at 2:30, but if not I will scan it for you. The reporter took some pics so hopefully that will set your mind at ease.

You got the joint ready for shipping?

[karmaxul]

yo shit man i uploaded the wrong one. its the new last on march 23. i fixed it. that was me just rambling and them not saying anything.

[mobay]

we are talking about todays paper with you holding it up, let graph take the picture. TC always scanned and never took pictures as well.

who do i send the money too? come on let me send it to you, so i can be the 1st victim. send me a free sample of your nutes, so i can test it out, to help promote your product. the free samples you give out when you talk to other businesses.

[karmaxul]

my pic is in the paper. fast forward a bit they hang up twice before the interview. Its the local paper. once it takes off i got no problem sending you a sample.

[karmaxul]

Here is the local paper. Hope this sets your mind at ease.

[mobay]

ok thats him, where is the paper with YOU next to it holding it up , so we can compair faces. if you can provide this bit of info, you will be well respected in here with me and i guess others from now on. remember you holding the paper next to your face.

plus i need the info to where i have to send the money, you NEVER answered

[karmaxul]

Man didnt you see me on tv. Are you telling I am impersonating a dude in my home town and I knew his ad was going to be in high times over a month before it came out aswell as the news paper and news storys prior to them coming out. Not only that but I tapped his phone when he called the DEA headquarters and hacked his site to upload his stolen phone calls when he is using the same voice as on the news? man I dont got a camera and dont except money.

You can mail the joint to
Chris Seekins
24 High Street
Winsted CT 06098

[mobay]

if you dont except money how are you going to be in business, selling your nutes. you have this high tech computer 4 you said , but you dont have a 45 dollar digital camera? doesnt add up. when you were here the last time you said you were going out to buy one , or was that ROY.

iam not send any drugs to a mans house who is already in trouble with the law.


if you dont have a camera and only a scammer , sorry scanner put your face in the scanner with the paper, or will the tumor from the car accident bother you.

[karmaxul]

Then you are a liar and I guess you will have to live with that.

Put a fake return address on it. The cop who busted me is enjoying answering the phones for the rest of his career. No worries the town loves me.

[karmaxul]

Only T.C. would lie about sending something he said he was going to send twice. So T.C. is Mobay case closed

[mobay]

FACE ON PLATE and scan.

can you answer my 1st question?

i bet you thought i eased up on you didnt you?

[karmaxul]

Mobay / TC are doing all this so people do not know its you.

After you stopped being TC your Mobay character suddenly starts making tons of posts.

You really should not lie to people like that.

[karmaxul]

Since you already said you will send me a joint twice I will answer your question.

I still need to know why be TC and Mobay though? Thats shady bro

I bet you play the lets avoid the issue game myself as that is another TC quality:(

[mobay]

good one lol. you sly devil you.mighty funny you cant prove to anyone that your not

[karmaxul]

Between the two of us you have been caught lieing twice and I none so we will be believing my word over yours TC.

Is it that you have TCs number and addresses because you are one in the same. I think the evidence speaks for itself, Mr. Question Dodger / Mobay / TC

Is this a ploy for attention?

[mobay]

i can answer you question with 3 word. the picture you scanned of your death was a white person. and my answer is I AM NOT.

[mobay]

DONT START SHAKING NOW MOTHERFUCKER.

[turtle420]

Please stop acting so leet, you ran a who is search.

A retarded monkey tripping on mescaline could run a DNS search.
Hey Valium... welcome to the boards...

You made quite an entrance.

Look man, I'm backing-up Graph.

You've got 3 posts "insinuating" that your computer skills are above Graph's... fine dude. I'm sure you'll kick his ass. And mine. And LemonBoy's... and Zandors...

We know Valium... you're really Bill Gates.... fine dude. You win.

[karmaxul]

Mobay my lad, I am half white half black and all heart

You are TC and you will need to live with that.

[turtle420]

God fucking damnit...!!! :(

I though we where talking about fucking foggers and frisbees...

Look Mobay, what Valium said is totally right... many people can do what Graph did (after instructions).

If he's lying about his name, and "registering domains" with fake information (like super-100-domains-dude said), he's completely fucking up his company.

Why don't you call the IRS and ask them for Gorilla Grow, Inc.'s information? That's public information..

Call them up, give them your information, tell them you're having a discussion with this guy in Cannabis.com, and ask them for the data.

????????

I don't fucking get it...

Mobay, we're all buddies... and I tell you this in a cool "tone",

But dude, if you're so fucking curious, just take a fucking flight over to Karmaxul's house and smoke the two joints with him....

I can see your doubts about him, but... c'mon... DEAphone... papers... new video clips... newspaper... a company... dude...

Just fly over there... Or drive... what ever man.

[mobay]

stupid do you know what your trying to do , just look through my threads and see. a matter of fact i give the mods to do an ip address on me to prove that. will you give them permission to run your ip address?

[mobay]

good job turtle420 i can respect that. valium i take my hat off to you .

zero/tc/carmal the referee just saved your ass.

now lets back to growing.

[karmaxul]

do it up, run my ip address, I know I am not TC the question is who are you.
You probably got a new computer which is why you are saying run my ip address.
I remember you mentioning people using 4 pc's
So you will no doubt have one for Mobay, one for TC and I guess we will find out the other two in time. Perhaps you are also Turtle and are just playing devils advocate so no one suspects you. You are a sneaky devil Mobay a very sneaky devil. Or would you rather be called Tricomb Creator?

[turtle420]

Ok, fine... So Mobay and Karma are happy, a mod should run all IPs.

But, proxiesss....

Anyways, I think Karma is CS

Graph is graph

Mobay is Mobay

And I'm fucking turtle dudes...

I know Mobay isn't TC because, damn,... then he scammed him self... Nah, Mobay isn't TC.

But, c'mon people...

Peace and love, lots of love Mobay, Karmaxul, and all others,

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[mobay]

sorry turtle the gloves just came back on.

there is no way you will leave your wife, everything is in her name phone, house, and the truck. so if for some reason someone ends up on your doorstep, stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

arron

[karmaxul]

Mobay lighters are not for huffing butane my friend they are for lighting bowls. As far as the stunt pretending to scam yourself well that is just childish. There are better ways, and more positve ways to get attention

Turtle so you have the fogger table or the fogger unit?

[turtle420]

sorry turtle the gloves just came back on.

there is no way you will leave your wife, everything is in her name phone, house, and the truck. so if for some reason someone ends up on your doorstep, stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

arron
No problem Mobay... I see discussion as good... And you and me might disagree, but I still have a lot of respect for you (and your hydro grows!).

But, I understand about 20% of your quoted post...

Wife??? Truck????

[turtle420]

Turtle so you have the fogger table or the fogger unit?
Fogger unit.

NutraMist 5.

I'm still thinking about my problems...

Damn it,.... and to think that 24hours ago we were all a group of growers helping each other out...

Peace Mobay, Karmaxul,

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[karmaxul]

can the air intake be humid or can it rust, can you run fog thru it?

I also read that you can adjust its output is this true with yours?

What I am getting at is what if you ran it very low and recycled the fog thru the intake to build up a balance

[mobay]

TC lives in savannah georgia, when everything went down , scobbie gave me his phone number , i did a search on the number and it came up his wifes name , address, how much her house cost, the whole shabang. yes i did spend some money on all his info, but i got it saved now. TC then emailed me that his wife would freak out if she knew i had this info. so i told him to come on the forums and apoligize to everyone for what he did and that i wouldnt send my cousins over to his house and -----. so he did. he told me he was going to florida to live with his dad and he would keep in contact soon as he got there. never did. closed his tc account at safe-mail.net so that none of his old victims couldnt email him anymore.

so now comes his wife karen on the computer beachchic or something like that. wanting to talk shit about tc , we gave that bitch hell so she never came back.

now here comes karma x u all, typing the way TC left off. after signing on under beachbitch he didnt get any love from NO ONE. so he couldnt go back to being TC so how about KARMA X U ALL. now he's back people are loving him the same way they loved TC before he scammed em. he wouldnt be on here giving all this advise in different forums for nothing. scoping out you will bite the hook. beings though he is here to sell his product. how come he hasnt offered a free sample to the mods or older growers here so we can give him the proper launch of his new product. ohhhh it is only sold in bulk, big money has to be spent to try his product out.

1 final thought for you in here, how come he wont take my wire transfer for the 100 dollars i owe him. answer he have to give his real name to claim the money.

iam done with the subject, as long as he doesnt respond, and then i will make a phone call down to the dirty south.

[karmaxul]

I dont seem to understand he owes you money and you are mad?

If it will make you feel better you can wire me a dollar even though I am not TC to my bank under my name. Send me a email to [email protected] and I will give you my bank info.

[mobay]

iam not mad at him at all, even when you apoligized i never brought it back up. even when you first came on here i didnt bother you at all, cause i brushed it under the rug, UNTIL you came at me with some bullshit. you should have just by-passed me here bro.

i owe you 100 dollars, for the newspaper article you found, with out you next to it. ohhh iam sorry you dont have a camera. damn with all the interviews you had with NBC, ABC, FOX, BET, and the DISNEY CHANNEL, you should have told them you needed a camera

i need your name , and city and state to where iam sending it, you better start getting ready to give this info out cause a lot of people dont like giving there credit card number out. they would rather wire you the money for your nutes. we can trust you , that you will send us the product we buy from you.

[mobay]

say for a second that you have an account with bank of america, they are all over the place , and you give me the bank info in Conn. could you still use the same info in Savannah Georgia? routing # and bank account #'s is the same wherever you send it.

thats why i perfer to wire you the money . cut the middle man out.

[karmaxul]

Wire the joint to:
Chris Seekins
24 High Street
Winsted CT 06098

I hate Bank of America. We dont get along.

If you want to know its me send 1 dollar to
Chris Seekins
211180133 routing
90001181485 dba checking account number
Hamilton Sunstrand Federal Creidit Union
191 Ella Grasso Tpke
Windsor Locks, CT 06096
Phone (860) 627-4200, select option #2
I dont want 100 dollars this is for your piece of mind

[turtle420]

Wire the joint to:
Chris Seekins
24 High Street
Winsted CT 06098

I hate Bank of America. We dont get along.

If you want to know its me send 1 dollar to
Chris Seekins
211180133 routing
90001181485 dba checking account number
Hamilton Sunstrand Federal Creidit Union
191 Ella Grasso Tpke
Windsor Locks, CT 06096
Phone (860) 627-4200, select option #2
I dont want 100 dollars this is for your piece of mind
Man, it doesn't get more real than that...

Well, unless you drove over to CT...

[karmaxul]

Wire the joint to:
Chris Seekins
24 High Street
Winsted CT 06098

I hate Bank of America. We dont get along.

If you want to know its me send 1 dollar to
Chris Seekins
211180133 routing
90001181485 dba checking account number
Hamilton Sunstrand Federal Creidit Union
191 Ella Grasso Tpke
Windsor Locks, CT 06096
Phone (860) 627-4200, select option #2
I dont want 100 dollars this is for your piece of mind

Well peice of mind and seeing you admit you were wrong.

[turtle420]

This is posted over in Washington State University (http://potatoes.wsu.edu/infolinks/organic-links.htm)
Gorilla Grow - vendor of organic fertilizer.

In addition, I found another company, with Chris Seekins' name, that gOOgle has a cache on it "retrieved on 29 Jan 2006 00:11:17 GMT." This page has exactly the same information Karmaxul provided.

????

What you say Mobay?

[turtle420]

FOGGER:::
Karmaxul, I'll scan and post the instructions of the NutraMist...

But it states that you have to watch out for fog "back-tracking" to the fan... As you asked: No, the fan isn't "fog proof". I guess it WILL get messed-up by the fog.

In short: I can't run a recirculating setup.

As for adjustability: I can speed up, or down the fan that pumps air into the fog thing... but I can't control the amount of "atomization" by the fog head...

[karmaxul]

Nice link I asked for info on where I could get blue congo potatoes and they gave me the link http://www.milkranch.com/Potato/GardenData.aspx?Var=AB I guess I used my company account. Thats cool

Alright it seems the issue is to much pressure is in the fog chamber. What if there was a exhaust fan on the fog chamber that moisture did not effect that went to a manafold then tubes that exhausted it at the bottom of the res. kind of like a bubbler but the moisture would get seperated for the air on the way up and the intake for the fogger could come from the air above the water level in the res.

[mobay]

how come you wont take a wire transfer, from western union.

how stupid do you think people are 1st at all credit unions world wide your checking # doesnt end with 5, thats your 1st mistake, it always ends with a 0, thats the 1st account that you can start with at a credit union or a savings account then it will be 1. so your telling me you have 5 accounts there and the checking account was the last one you got?

2nd if you can give all this info out give me your phone number and i will call you. and if you answer the questions i ask you over the phone on this site. you will have my respect. you can email the number to me at [email protected]

[karmaxul]

check your box

[mobay]

iam calling you

[mobay]

you never answered the phone. so iam done with this feud.end of story.

[karmaxul]

I have a ringer

[karmaxul]

When are you calling

[Zandor]

I will give you my opinion before things get out of hand.

I have compared all the IP's used by moby and TC they are not even in the same IP class. They look like they are each registered in different states. One used a DSL provider and the other is a cable provider and DSL provider both show up.

From what I can tell they are not the same person if that is what you are thinking karmaxul. I did not want to read every post here so if I am wrong I am sorry.

[karmaxul]

I am just fucking with him no worries. I dont even know who TC is.

[Zandor]

OK, He was a sore subject around here.

All is good then peace all

[karmaxul]

Zandor - Any thoughts on the fogger?

[turtle420]

Well, Zandor's post should put a lid on this...

Frisbees?
Or foggers?

[karmaxul]

Alright it seems the issue is to much pressure is in the fog chamber. What if there was a exhaust fan on the fog chamber that moisture did not effect that went to a manafold then tubes that exhausted it at the bottom of the res. kind of like a bubbler but the moisture would get seperated for the air on the way up and the intake for the fogger could come from the air above the water level in the res.

[turtle420]

Alright it seems the issue is to much pressure is in the fog chamber. What if there was a exhaust fan on the fog chamber that moisture did not effect that went to a manafold then tubes that exhausted it at the bottom of the res. kind of like a bubbler but the moisture would get seperated for the air on the way up and the intake for the fogger could come from the air above the water level in the res.
Interesting...

I'm gonna snap some pics, and post them... maybe that helps.

You know, I'm thinking that if I have the NutraMist in the same chamber as the plants, the "exhausting" effect will not occour.

I need to run some tests... but I'm sure my cabinet can take about 3 minutes of fog (3minON/7minOFF) without turning into gK's RainForrest...

So, if we have the 5gallons buckets AND the NutraMist inside the cabinet, the fog (I believe) will stay inside the buckets.... it will not get pulled out by the exhaust fan.

Let me run some tests... AHHHH!A!!!... weekend... ahhhh.... :)

[karmaxul]

It would exhaust more I would think. If it is taking air from the cabinet and forcing it into the fog chamber it would still have to exhaust some where unless the crystal disc was used with out a intake and had a fast dripper on it constantly like in Mobays setup.

Where is this exhaust fan you speak of?

[turtle420]

It would exhaust more I would think. If it is taking air from the cabinet and forcing it into the fog chamber it would still have to exhaust some where unless the crystal disc was used with out a intake and had a fast dripper on it constantly like in Mobays setup.

Where is this exhaust fan you speak of?
Ok man... this is my bad... let me give you the background...

The fog, (in the proposed future setup), would exit through holes in the 5gallons buckets. Envision a 5gallon bucket, with the plant at the top and fog being pumped in on the side-top... then, fog having an exhaust at the side-bottom... exhaust into the.... into the cabinet.

MY SETUP:

I've got a cabinet, inside a closet.... literally...

It's 20" deep, 40" wide... and 48" tall. Not too big.

I've got a 300CFM (squirrel cage) exhaust fan at the top... pulling air OUT of the cab. Then, at the bottom-side, I've got a 4" dryer duct with a "passive" air intake.

So, if the fog exhausts into the cabinet, it'll get sucked by the 300CFM fan at the top... again, I think my cabinet/setup can take 3minON/7minOFF before getting TOO "moisty".

What you think?

[karmaxul]

Then you are exhausting all of your nutes and moisture out side which is going to be a bit strange and wasteful. If it exhausts as a bubbler under the water level in the res. there is no pressure in the fog chamber to turn the room into a rain forest and no moisture lost.

[Zandor]

Are you going to make me read all this crap???????? lol

How about a clif note version?

[sheist]

if you mail chris seekins a joint, knowing he is under investigation currently.. that would bring heat to the website..

think about it.. wat if the whole seekins thing was a leo operation to bring down the website at cannabis.com.. far as they show, they dont have the hard evidence to make their attac, until someone sends a joint to that house, like Emery sent seeds.. (look where he's at now) so don't send that shit out..

giving out banking information via internet forum, refusing money but accepting a controlled substance through the mail sounds lyk a trap.. sry.. karmaxul sounds cool n all but i gotta look at the other side of the chessboard too.. theres always more than one side..

[karmaxul]

Sheist you amaze me.

[Caase]

Who sells this C02 Boost container?

[karmaxul]

http://www.co2boost.com/home.aspx

[karmaxul]

Turtle mountainmans acid dispenser thread gave me an idea. To exhaust the fog chamber back into the res. if no exhaust fans can handle moisture what about a submersible pump that can run dry. Some thing like is found in the fogger unit may work also. One fogger could pump in the fog and to relieve the pressure another fogger or whatever could move the fog from the other side of the chamber via tubing to the bottom of the res.

What do you think?

[Garden Knowm]

WOW

TURTLE.. you are COOL!!!!!!!!!!!

AND now you KNOWM

love

[karmaxul]

Knome you have been to the place where these tables are made. Any insight on exhausting the chamber?

[Garden Knowm]

they just let the fog come out the top....of the baskets..

It is a show room... not somebodies bedroom.. so it did not turn into a rain forest.....

Turtle has his solution....
cheese cloth or something... plus, once the plants get big enough, the fog should not get past the foilage and fall/ drip back down...

: )

[karmaxul]

Hmmm I am not sure the foliage would catch the humidity in the air. The pressure has to escape some how.

[Garden Knowm]

cheese cloth will for sure...
and any decent canopy should catch the fog..

LOL

[sheist]

how do they make this fog?

[turtle420]

Hey Karmaxul, Garden, Zandor,

I'm going to try the fog thing... but it has to wait a little itsy bit. I'm moving. (Don't worry, I won't start another "Moving my growroom thread").

I'm probably moving within 2 weeks... maybe 1... soooo.... I don't want to "setup" the clones/fog/etc. because, I need to take all that shit on the road. I don't think it'd be good to take a cabinet with a nice White Widow SCRoG going on inside...

But let me do some experimentation...

[turtle420]

how do they make this fog?
It's a small "puck" with some discs on it... the discs vibrate at high frequency, and that sends the solution flying::: fog.

If you browse around the FutureGarden website, you'll see some pictures.

[Jdog7000]

The CO2Boost buckets are killer. It has doubled my growth rate and I can run it right on my plants if I wanted. Plus I run the tube under my clone dome every few days.Such a great product, I'll be using these for veg and stuff for a long ,long time. Right now I'm flowering with it. So we'll see how they react.So far they love it and it speeds up the whole process. Plus it can be hotter in your room.

[turtle420]

The CO2Boost buckets are killer. It has doubled my growth rate and I can run it right on my plants if I wanted. Plus I run the tube under my clone dome every few days.Such a great product, I'll be using these for veg and stuff for a long ,long time. Right now I'm flowering with it. So we'll see how they react.So far they love it and it speeds up the whole process. Plus it can be hotter in your room.
Jdog, question:::
Do you run constantly your exhaust fans?

[karmaxul]

Jdogg7000 how much are refills for the system?

[Garden Knowm]

I think the refill is $100.

last 70-90 days

[karmaxul]

Well that aint bad. If it elevates to 700ppm you should get 25% more bud so it would pay for itself.

[Chris Seekins]

Who is this Karmaxul character and why is he saying he is me?

Not that I think he is all bad as he is telling people to mail me joints.
Karmaxul- you can tell people to mail me joints but you will never be me!

[turtle420]

Who is this Karmaxul character and why is he saying he is me?

Not that I think he is all bad as he is teling people to mail me joints.
Karmaxul- you can tell people to mail me joints but you will never be me!
Wow, I was out of the boards for a couple of days, because I don't have that much time....

Then I'm reading around, and I see "Chris Seekins" around... and I think: wow, Karmaxul decided to log in with his own name. Cool!

But then, I read this shit...

From the post I quote above, I'm almost sure Karmaxul isn't the online "Chris Seekins".

And this other Chris Seekins, I'll be flat out straight with you:::

You're looking for trouble motherfucker, and you're going to find it.

I don't know if you're Trichome, Mobay, Karmaxul's dog (lovely!), or the fucking fary god mother, but we're going to chop down your balls if you're fucking with us.

I can just see it now... fights to-and-from between Karmaxul and the online "Chris Seekins".

So, I guess this is yet another IP-check for the mods.

Hmmm... I don't know what to think....

Chris Seekins, I'm sure you won't see why I'm being so "pissed-off" at you from the start, and I hope I have to apologize in the future... but truth of the matter is, YOU ARE VERY FISHY.
You just pop-in like this, posting your real name, saying you ain't Karmaxul, mailing of joints, etc... We've never had this before. This is fucking fishy.

No-proof reading here in this post, because I'm gonna regret what I just wrote and erease it... so fuck it, here it is...

-turtle420 :cool:
.

EDIT: Karmaxul and online "Chris Seekins" have the same signature, with the link to the gorillagrow website... hmmm....

[turtle420]

Ok, now I'm almost 100% sure online"Chris Seekins" isn't Karmaxul...

The following quote, came from: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=56007

Dont listen to Karmaxul he is an idiot I have known him for many years.
1st off, Karmaxul has proven to be anything BUT and idiot... lot's of interesting information. Some of it has been controversial, but good information.
2nd, you've known him for many years?

Fuck you man. Fuck you.

If are the real Chris Seekins, and you are they guy that painted Marijuana leaves on the side of your house, you wouldn't call anybody an idiot. And you wouldn't come on this board bashing another guy "you've known for years".

Fuck you.

[Zandor]

Who is this Karmaxul character and why is he saying he is me?

Not that I think he is all bad as he is telling people to mail me joints.
Karmaxul- you can tell people to mail me joints but you will never be me!

It could be because you both are using the same IP to post?

What's up with the game dude, I don't get it. Did you not think I could check or what? I hate games and double posters who play games like. It will get you kicked from here for life dude.

Please explain your self ASAP or you both are gone.

[mobay]

well well well the truth shall set you free, i been here arguing with this subject for awhile now , and hardly anyone has been on my side about it . zandor you know whats up . turtle420, garden knowm, that inbreed, and alot of others, iam only here to help not hurt. i told you that he will be back and you'll thought i was crazy. but iam glad that not only myself but zandor, postmandave, valium4me, you guys get thumbs up with me. oh i cant forget BIG BIG BUK whats up bro.

[mobay]

turtle 420 i dint read your post til after i wrote my post. but for you to say my name in your line up is fucked up. you can ask zandor to do another ip address on me if that will ease your mind , but when zandor did the ip address on me it said that i use dsl and he uses the other , read back on the post before you put me in that fucked up line up. i guess we all look alike. :mad: if zandors search doesnt ease it ask postmandave, big buk, who the fuck i am . i stay in contact with those 2 off the forums, daily.

[mobay]

if you would have listen to me in the begining you wouldnt be going through this shit now. i should have just kept my mouth shut and let him rape 1 of you in here , but i was looking out but never again will i waste my time trying to help again. postmandave and big buk are the only 2 that i will help out with a scammer in these forums again.

[BukDatAss]

WooW damn I came down with a 24hour stomach virus and this is what I missed.

[mobay]

lol, yeah big buk. zandor has nipped this in the bud. asap doesnt mean ALL SCAMS ARE POSSIBLE. he means now.

[postmandave]

mobay you have been proven right on this subject and i take my hat of to you , you knew from the very start who this was , you knew bro and nobody believed you were right bar us ,and bigbuck , now i hope people on this forum respect you for what you are , a very honest and decent guy , and well done zandor, and turtle your head must be fucked with all this bro , i know you are only here for the info like us but when peepo like tc come on and mess with our great hobby it can get very confusing, lol take it from me mate MOBAY is 100% genuine and a real decent guy he only wanted to watch peepos backs and stop them getting messed with like tc did to him and my uncle, later peepo and lets get on with it and just ignore him if he comes back on ,the postman.

[mobay]

karmaxul 95
mobay 87
turtle420 36
graph 32
Garden Knowm 31
jakenthegentiles 17
JunkYard 11
Kush Over 9
BukDatAss 6
The Grim Reefer 6
stickygreenlightsabr 5
postmandave 5
Zandor 4
sheist 4
Jdog7000 3
ValiumForMe 3
mrabrego 2
cnd411 1
elcheapo 1
Caase 1
smoknjoe 1
FERMENTATION 1
Chris Seekins 1

[turtle420]

Hey guys,

Interesting posts after mine... I'm still waiting for Karmaxul's explanation for having the same IP addresses on both machines.

Mobay, I respect you 100%.
I believe you're 100% geniune.
Your grows (as I've said before), I look up to.

I can see that you got pissed off when I mentioned your name.
It wasn't done to piss you off, I was writing off my head... no proof-reading.

Why did I write your name?
Because at some point earlier in this thread, I don't know who the fuck it was that said that Mobay = TC = Zero... or some shit like that.

Again, sorry for getting you pissed off... I'm cool with you.

I'm just BAFFLED.

I mean, Karmaxul/Chris Seekins can't be THAT stupid to use the same IP.

Then, what the fuck's up?

Zandor, is there any way the IPs got spoofed (copied/proxied/etc.)?


Mobay, told you my apologies... next, my kudos.

ThumbsUP to you for keeping at it... I DO realize that you're protecting this "family" we have here... thanks for that.

Peace,

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[mobay]

these are the people who made a post on this thread, out of the 87 post i made was trying to defend the people here. turtle420 out of 36 post you were trying to belittle me saying that what i was telling wasnt true and you needed all this evidence to prove me wrong . iam not the 1 who is hurt in this situation you are, cause you believed ,when you shouldnt have, i guess you followed your heart and your heart is hurt right now. but for me i feel damn good with my gut feelings i had from the begining and my gut is telling me its time to go take a shit. so good luck to all and i hope you dont get scammed in the future, cause he will be back.

its a beautiful day in the neighborhood , mister rogers.

do you feel like that bald old man, that played in the Benny Hill show.

[mobay]

ok turtle 420 we are cool bro , i was upset when that happened. lets grow weed

[turtle420]

ok turtle 420 we are cool bro , i was upset when that happened. lets grow weed
LOL!

Of course man...

Again, kudos for following your gut feelings.

I'm still baffled...

Peace and love Mobay,

-turtle420 :cool:
.

BTW: Tell Mr. Rogers he owes me the bong he broke in my apartment...

[postmandave]

turtle you dont need his explanatoin , IT IS TRICH I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, the postman.

[mobay]

look at post 352 and 353 very careful and you will see the mistake he made. just look close.

[turtle420]

Man, I've been getting up-to-date on the boards, and I've read a couple of online Chris Seekins posts... he is definitely Karmaxul.

Writes like him. Suggests Ozium. etc.

I'm wondering::: Maybe Karmaxul wanted to, um, "kill" the Karmaxul character, and start using his "real name" character (ie, Chris Seekins)...

But this is fucked up....

[mobay]

turtle420 i know your hurting now , thats the same way i felt when i put all my trust into TC.

[turtle420]

turtle420 i know your hurting now , thats the same way i felt when i put all my trust into TC.
Yeah man, I'm thinking right now:

If Karmaxul doesn't give Zandor his explanation (which Zandor asked for Karm, so you have to provide), within 24 hours, fuck it. No respect from me.

As to you Mobay, when I have more money in the future, I'll give you something... lol ! I don't know... a CO2 regulator... or CAP controller...

Karmaxul! We, and I, are waiting...

[gin4dub]

So I just read through this entire thread and all I can say is WOW. Before I return to minding my business here is my $3.57;

- That which is carried out in the darkness shall ALWAYS come to the light in due time.
- Justice may be delayed but, ultimately, will NEVER be denied.
- The Universe has it's own beautiful, strange, violent and disturbingly humorous methods of maintaining balance (homeostasis, if you will) after being knocked off balance by excessive negative energy (like that caused by theft, lying, etc.)

[Garden Knowm]

Mobay... easy killer...

we all got your back...

dude... nobody is hating you..

I have always applauded your policing skillzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

LOVE...

I can't tell if you are dissing me.. not sure if it matters... but When KArma had only 10 posts I accused him of being TC... right off the bat..

there is an entire thread of this somewhere.. so if you were dissing me..

I love you
and if your weren't dissing me
i love you....


so here is my question

Karma knew that a few people on here were checking IP addresses...
So why would he do something so foolish as to post with this Whole Chris Seekins thing?

I am FILTHY RICH $$$$$$$$$$$$$

love is

[Garden Knowm]

so....are Chris and Karma band?


No offense Karma or TC or whoever you are.. but really you should be band cause you seem to attract a lot of trouble.. it is the story you keep telling yourself in your head..... you rmantra is "I deserve to be punished"...
"I am a matyr"....

you should change it to.. "I love YOU"....

You attract trouble.. for some reason you think you deserve this trouble.. and until you let that go... you should stay away from here..

i love you



TURTLE you are the COOlest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mobay]

GK no it wasnt a diss, but what i was saying was everybody wanted all this proof and i was giving it to everyone , but you all still wanted more proof.i seen right through all the shit he was saying, but my proof wasnt good enough.so thats why iam saying that i will never butt in again to help anyone, but my true friends here. postmandave and big buk were the only 2 that would listen to me when it was happening and they stayed clear as i asked them so i could belittle TC , but when you have other people who doubt what i knew , it was kind of hard dealing with the situation at hard.

Turtle420 and Garden Knowm you are cool with me and i give much respect to you 2 , but when he comes back , i hope you can put 2 and 2 together and stop it before it starts.

with me and karmaxul going back and forth it took his mind off of scamming some one in here and i think i did a good job at holding him at bay until zandor came in.so iam gonna pat my own self on the back for that, lol

BENNY HILL, BIG BUK , TURTLE420, GARDEN KNOWM AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST ZANDOR. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[postmandave]

mobay you should just leave it now bro , you have done your bit mate , he was on his way to getting someone but your work BEHIND the screen forced his hand, i say no more , the postman.

[graph]

I hate standing up for people who turn out to be total douches in the long run.

Still, Zandor was saying that CS and Karmaxul are running off the same IP, not CS and TC, right?

Either way, you were right on the douchebag thing mobay, but in all fairness, I probably would have been a lot quicker to jump on the bandwagon had you not started to accuse me of being... "them".

Either way, hats off to you for trying to stop rape. Rape is never the answer.

[Zandor]

Wow this is confusing :confused: and a buzz kill for sure. Why do people do that? I just don't get it. :stoned:

[graph]

that's why I make sure to only post on controversial subjects when I'm sober.

Believe me, I know what you mean.

[turtle420]

Hey guys,

Well, I don't see any of them has logged-in and explained themselves here...

So, they've got what? 18hours left?
<<<<<>>>>

I just checked RIGHT NOW and both Karmaxul AND Chris Seekins are online... BOTH of them...

Then, on this thread:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=689630#post689630

Bluefunk bashes Karmaxul because of a fuck-up over Calcium... then Chris Seekins posts, and corrects himself... Then KARMAXUL posts and says "O shit meant to say that with this name."

?????? WTF?!?!?!!!!

Chris, what's going on?

Just speak...

[turtle420]

Man,

This Chris Seekins guy is fucked up...

I think he's just fucking with us.

I mean, he just posted over in http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=53141&page=2
Then Karmaxul says some "peace out" thing... then Chris Seekins posts that "Man that karmaxul is an idiot"

And this is AFTER what I posted above happened... so, Karmaxul already ADMITTED to being Chris Seekins (online), and ANYWAY, Zandor confirmed it...

What the hell? Does this dude has multiple-personalities?

I think my signature applies perfectly to this situation...

[graph]

now that's what I call having way too much free time on your hands.

[BukDatAss]

Damn I dont know what the hell to say anymore about this whole crap:confused: All I know is BIG UP TO:thumbsup: MOBAY:thumbsup: UR right about keeping him busy but let people get raped hey u did ur good deed its there problem if others dont want to listen. I dont know about others, but as for me I will give people only 1 warning the next time its on them if they want to get f@cked. I dont care and dont pay mind to what he does on these boards anymore he f@cking garbage but his info isnt, so I already know what to believe and what not to, its just to bad others dont:p

[Chris Seekins]

My reality check bounced no doubt

[karmaxul]

Me too.

[turtle420]

So this is a joke to you?

You know you can only have ONE account, right?

Why dude? Why?

Answer THAT... Why?

Your advice is very usefull... but why are you fucking around with people?

[Chris Seekins]

Well I got this new laptop with fuzzy keys so I use that one when I remember what keys are what under this account. Then when I have to see what I am typing I hit up the karmaxul pc.

Have you ever seen the fuzzy key boards?

I thought gorillas could have two accounts.

[turtle420]

Have you ever seen the fuzzy key boards?
Fine... go ahead...

I'll try and get as much information as I can before you get banned;....

What do you plan to do with your company???

Or is that a scam?

You know you just left your company with its name under shit, right?

[Chris Seekins]

You know you just left your company with its name under shit, right?
Um I am tripping could you speak clearer?

As far as my company I am selling some pearls in the paper to get cash at 70% off of the appraised retail and should know if I am getting unemplyment tomorrow. The dude in Texas who owes me 7000 is taking his sweet as time sending it. He payed for 180,000 dollars worth of land in mexico cash, is building condos, just got another house in mexico and a van for mexico but says he has no money to send me. I am going to let him choose his own path, hehe. Any ways I talked to the lab today and they are making up a pallet for shipping tomorrow for me so when I send funds it will not be a delay. I got the website ready for payment today. Just need to setup a esuite in bermuda so I can bank with them, but I can do that in a few months. I hope to be shipping small orders by 4/20. I am getting alot of hits.


The past week I have been getting 50 hits a day. High times just advertised it so it should pick up, I just need cash for the first pallet then its good to go basically. It is in the works.:)

[turtle420]

What the fuck is your problem dude?

You are one irresponsible mother fucker...

You run a company, like., like... like a fucking hot-dog stand!

You're getting 50hits a day? Hmm... I wonder what would happen if Zandor takes your signature away... which he WILL DO, because you STILL HAVEN'T explained your self....

And, do you think people will buy from you?

I don't wish you bad... but, I can bet $50 that NOBODY in these boards will buy from you... after all this shit you just pulled?

No fucking way man....

......

So, tell me.... Why two accounts?

Why the lies?

Are you Trichome?

.....

You need money for the 1st pallet? Why don't you ask Mobay for it?

[Chris Seekins]

Heres the latest stats

[graph]

this thread is giving me a headache.

I guess, all in all, after all my proof, after all my assumptions, after all of that, mobay was right. Whether or not he is trichome, he isn't to be trusted.

And that's when I get pissed.

[turtle420]

Heres the latest stats
You're still on the wire here...

Why are displaying those?

Do you think that "stats" are taking off and you "don't need the boards" any more?

We can fuck-up your company's reputation ASAP dude...

<><><>
So, direct question:
Chris Seekins, are you Trichome Creator?

[Chris Seekins]

Turtle if you are drunk and I am tripping how can we communicate.

I just want to let everyone know nothing is going to happen by being on this page.

Besides I bet a million people have read my story not to mention the nationwide CNN broadcast. If they look up my name and cannabis.com comes up not only will they learn something, but we will get tons of people looking at the page and it will hopefully get even bigger.

It is not like the DEA does not know me by name when I call them up at headquarters in DC to discuss cannabis and the synthetic heroin flooding the streets weekly. (Have you heard the latest interview?)

Now my question to you is, WHY the name Turtle?

[Chris Seekins]

So, direct question:
Chris Seekins, are you Trichome Creator?

Well we are all part of the earth so in that sense yes, but so are you.

[graph]

Well we are all part of the earth so in that sense yes, but so are you.
So uh... how about a straight answer?

[Chris Seekins]

Graph are you Mobay?

Silly humans. Picking on the gorilla is not doing any good.

[graph]

Nope. See how easy that is? Straight answer.

Now here's something a little bit more annoying.

Yes, of course. We're all mobay. You are mobay, too.

[turtle420]

You ain't gonna piss me off dude...

This is a shame.

As I've said, your advice is very usefull... you know your shit.

But the CNN shit, and google comment, that leaves me 100% sure that you don't give a shit about this site anymore.

It's a shame man... real shame... I really enjoyed your input, and our discussions... and I enjoyed you trying to help me with the fogger thing.

Fuck that dude... you're tipping on some of that synthetic heroin going around.

You have no respect for the people on this site...

So, without further ado, I give my conclusion:
Zandor, mods, this guy is just using us. My suggestion: IP ban. And remove his signature, if possible.

Ok,:
1. Remove signature (if possible)
2. Leave his posts (usefull)
3. The "Chris Seekins" member, change the name, so nobody can search it.

That way, the guy spent all this time here in vain. If we remove his posts, he won. If we leave them, but change the name... they're nobody's.

I wish you the best Chris... now please, go away.

Good night friends, I'm going to sleep...

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[Chris Seekins]

I am going to let you play that, Turtle so you can see where this game leads.

I will not be able to sleep until I know why the name Turtle or are you to cool to share.

Graph, - nope

[BukDatAss]

Shut up. Ur sounding like a litte fag right now (monkey dick) Go take ur monkey shit and eat it.... Yes you did hurt ur wack ass sales dont know how much go take ur little charts and shove it......:p

Remember I suggested ur little cute Faqs to be taken off:( And they will be taken off again u dork:p :dance:

[Chris Seekins]

Man I played these games when I was two and at age four found that they were dumb. And I am a gorilla not a monkey, we have conks not cocks. I just sent you a digital gorilla dingle berry.

Does this mean your not going to write me when I go to prison?

[Sinsemilla Jones]

It's ALL BS.
:mad:

Or one can only assume so, since he's proven himself to be a liar.
:mad:

[Chris Seekins]

Ya me too I say we lynch him

I dont think he lied though

[Bluefunk]

Shut up. Ur sounding like a litte fag right now (monkey dick) Go take ur monkey shit and eat it.... Yes you did hurt ur wack ass sales dont know how much go take ur little charts and shove it......:p

Remember I suggested ur little cute Faqs to be taken off:( And they will be taken off again u dork:p :dance:


rofl - agreed.

[postmandave]

look people, this is the last time im saying this, karma x u all = thrichome creator , this guy is playing with us all and we are allowing it to happen by replying to his posts, if he is ignored , he will go away , all you dudes are to cool to let this dude keep messin you all about , this has been proven as someone has spoken to him on the phone and he admits he is trichome creator and likes to play games on the forums, so lets just leave it that man, a few people knew it was him from the start, so now everyone knows, blank him, and as for you trichome creator , WHY do this , you have exellent info to give , why play the games, why not just be honest and join in the forum and help people out , instead of all this skull duggery, you must lead a pretty boring life to sit planning all this shit , i am just waiting for the real chris seekins to get back to me , to see what he has to say on the matter and personaly i hope he tracks your ass and sues it for impersonating him on these forums, also getting joints send to this dudes home could bring more heat on him, and with the greif this dude gets from the D.E.A , you could be bringing attractoin to this forum, as if they hate him so much they would want to see what he is posting on these forums, so dude give us all a break cause at the end of the day all people on this forum done was try to help you out when you claimed you had fallen on hard times, so they dont deserve this or is it you are just one of those people that dosent give a fuck about others as if this is the case then someday karma will come back to you and not in the form of a gorilla , so give people a break and just leave this shit out, its only making people not trust genuine growers lookin for help what you all about, just cant fathom your mode of thinking , all that knowledge on growing and not putting it in use to help just deseive.
this is the last comment i make on this matter.the postman.
ps nice avatar mobay lol.

[mobay]

chrissy like i told everyone in here before MOBAY is MOBAY. iam not 2 people on here. like i said in post #1 , you created a monster . did you see that movie primal fear yet cause it reminds me of you. you will bring heat to this forum and you probably have already, with putting all this bullshit on here about someone else. after you got caught by zandor , i am wondering did you get pissed that bad that you did call 50 and mention this forum? and to read all this shit. if you did we are fucked, asshole.

POSTMANDAVE, BIG BUK iam gonna stay clear for a while from talking on the forums for awhile, i dont need the heat . you know how to messenger me, @yahoo. keep me informed on this bullshit.

zandor if you need anything you can email me at [email protected].


IAM OUT.

[Chris Seekins]

Anyone else wish to act like a child or cry, now is the time

Yall sound like the type of people who would let some one else take the fall for you, hope we do not meet in person.

[Chris Seekins]

I have met enough rats in my day and dont want more to breed. The list has begun:thumbsup:

[mobay]

AWWW SHIT, I NEW I COULDNT LEAVE THIS FORUM


Zandon disregard what i posted to you , this motherfucker has started a new game and i like it.

seekins you dont have 24 hour protection , so you can be touched b. so do you really want to meet in person. with the 3 strike law, iam good i have 2 left, so if you want to meet i WILL make time for this shit here b. you brought a new level to this game.

[Chris Seekins]

Come on over I leave my doors unlocked

Bring the joint you owe me:p

[postmandave]

remember people ignore him he will go away.

[Zandor]

Well Chris Seekins or Karmaxul or what ever your name is.

Chose one or the other today or I will ban both of them. I don't play those games!

As a rule we ban both names when we catch people posting as 2 different people.

You know believe it or not there are a lot of members who feel a sense of community here and at other forums. Yes itâ??s an online world but that does not change the fact that many people still can have a felling of community and friendship. Every day we all share the same feeling. That some authority figures in the country may get a wild hair up their ass and busting our friends or us. You know that feeling I assume if that is you Even that I question now. We try to trust each other (as much as you can over the internet) and believe what they say. But we also accept people at face value and welcome them with open arms. Thatâ??s the life style many of us live by everyday. Itâ??s up to the person posting if they have honor or not. You have lost all credibility and respect as far as I am concerned.

I will be nice to you, post the name you are going to use the other one will be banned for life.

Of course you can argue with me and have both of them banned. Itâ??s your choice.

[Chris Seekins]

Itâ??s up to the person posting if they have honor or not. You have lost all credibility and respect as far as I am concerned.


Of course you can argue with me and have both of them banned. Itâ??s your choice.

You do as you wish, all I wish to know is how I have lost all credibility and respect as far as you are concerned.

[BukDatAss]

Just reed this whole thread again u dumb monkey..

JUst ban both these dumb monkeys and there IPs if possible.. I'm pretty sure everyone hear would agree:confused:


ALL IN FAVOR TYPE --- BAN MONKEY

[turtle420]

You do as you wish, all I wish to know is how I have lost all credibility and respect as far as you are concerned.
Ok dude...

I read your other post of why you used your real name... because it would bring more hits to this site... more movement to the cannabis movement... great.

That's great really... but why couldn't you say that from the start?

Why couldn't you post:
KARMAXUL: Hey guys, as you know, my real name is Chris Seekins. Because I'm a semi-public figure now, I've opened a new account with my real name... it will help this site... blah blah...
??????

Why all the bullshit? Why?

If you had said that from the start, we'd all be good.

But now, you've lost all credibility. Mobay can say that you're really Nixon, and I'll believe him. You, you can say you grow weed, and I won't believe you.

You see where I'm going?

Dude, everybody is against you... EVEN ME!!!

QUESTION: Do you think this is because we're against you? Or do you think you brought this upon your self?

As Zandor said::: What credibility do you have left?

[Bluefunk]

You brought it on yourself Chris/karmaxul. Thank god other people have spotted it.

[Chris Seekins]

buk just read it again and after countless times of me saying I do not know who trichrome creator is and that I am not him people continue to tell me I am thinking it is funny to try and create anger. Perhaps they feel it makes them smarter or makes them feel in control. After straight up telling people I am not him I decided to see what would happen if I said I was him. It was the exact same thing and accually people where nicer. Perhaps you have insight to why you need to fuck with people to feel control. Most likely as in the past you will ignore the question or change the subject as the DEA does when asked certain questions. Helping take some one down does not make you them and you do not take over there energy. I know this confuses you and even if it does not you will say it does as you think it makes you more respected. I hope people treat you the same if you are ever in my position.

Zandor still waiting on a reply.

Buk way to change the course of conversation you are a genius.







Originally Posted by Zandor
Itâ??s up to the person posting if they have honor or not. You have lost all credibility and respect as far as I am concerned.

I wish to know is how I have lost all credibility and respect as far as you are concerned. I hope you have the time to site example instead of being vague and can back what you say in a professional manner

[turtle420]

Chris,

I still don't believe you're Trichome... I just, don't think so.

But again, you're 100% negative credibility is because of you...

[[Wuhuu! Post #420... I'm cool... :cool:]]

[Chris Seekins]

But again, you're 100% negative credibility is because of you... [[Wuhuu! Post #420... I'm cool... :cool:]]

That is a good example of being vague.

Could you site any examples, or atleast give a half way intellegent excuse why you can not that you feel comfortable backing?

[turtle420]

That is a good example of being vague.

Could you site any examples, or atleast give a half way intellegent excuse why you can not that you feel comfortable backing?
I'd like...

Could you re-write your question? I can't follow:
"why you can not that you feel "

....

Where did you loose credibility?

Didn't you post as Chris Seekins: That Karmaxul guy is an idiot?????

You where making fun... fine... but, because you didn't come out of the closet right from the start, man, that took a shot at your credibility.

Following me?

<><><>
Dude, do you have any idea how cool would it be to have a guy that has a organic fertilizer company, grows weed, calls and fucks with the DEA, has pot plants painted on his house, posts his real name, and gets on the news, to post here???

That would kick-ass. But, you shot your legs right off...

Do you follow me?

[Zandor]

I owe you nothing, I don't care for people who play the games you were/are playing. They are not to be trusted.

I have banned your other account.

[turtle420]

I have banned your other account.
I can see Mobay wanking already... (pushing your buttons Mobay!)


I owe you nothing, I don't care for people who play the games you were/are playing. They are not to be trusted.
I second this 100%.

[Zandor]

I wish to know is how I have lost all credibility and respect as far as you are concerned. I hope you have the time to site example instead of being vague and can back what you say in a professional manner

Liars and scammers have no creditability to me.

I donâ??t feel your actions are altruistic one little bit. If you say you speak for the movement I even question that.
You played your game trying to have fun at the expense of others and that I have a problem with.
It â??s all bout honor and you have shown your's. You only confessed your posts were the same person AFTER you were caught.

You even argued with your self like a psycho and tried to hide the fact.

Then you say it was really to help the movement and bring more people to the site. We donâ??t need your help or want your help attracting traffic here. The people you attract are not the type we like to associate with. You are trouble and will bring only trouble.
That is why you have no creditability

[Chris Seekins]

Zandor - Live as you wish. I will continue to teach people how to grow.

Turtle - I called myself a idiot as I was using the same sig. and aviator as the post above. I also said I knew myself for years hoping even the youngster would catch on.

As for rewriting my question what it meant to say (as I just called tech support and figured out how to turn the screen brightness up on my lab top as I am spending the day outside) this is what I meant to say..........


Could you site any examples, or atleast give a half way intellegent excuse why you can not that you feel comfortable backing?
(is better worded as)
Could you site any examples, or atleast give a half way intellegent excuse why you can not site examples. Perhaps a excuse that you feel comfortable backing?

[Zandor]

Zandor - Live as you wish. I will continue to teach people how to grow.

Then how about doing that else where then?

[Chris Seekins]

Zandor - that is ridiculaus and talking in reverse does not impress me or go in a positive direction from my experience. I figured you would not be able to site examples and would act like you do not need to as you are a mod. I respect that you spend your time teaching people, true. I hope you can stay yourself and not be influenced by a position of authority, needing to feel control through influence rather then intelligence. Best of luck all

[Chris Seekins]

Then how about doing that else where then?

Site facts why you feel that way and stay off of bandwagons and perhaps I will if you can attach reason to your reply

[Zandor]

You want examples?
Strike 1
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=687641#post687641
post #16

Strike 2
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=687659#post687659
post 353

Strike 3

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=687666#post687666

Post 21

I donâ??t care for liars and scammers you appear to be both.

What comes after strike 3?

I even added an Organic section thinking you had something of value to add but even I feel you are not trust worthy by your actions. We are only lucky you were caught before you scammed to much. I hope nobody sent you any weed you don't deserve the charity.

First TriChomeCreator then you. Hell you may still be the same person trying to scam some of us again. He said he was moving so you could still be him. This is something he would have done too.

[Chris Seekins]

Dont listen to Karmaxul he is an idiot I have known him for many years.
(as I mentioned above I figured that by stating I knew myself you years even a child would follow that I was implying I was the same person after noticing the same sig and aviator)

Who is this Karmaxul character and why is he saying he is me?
Not that I think he is all bad as he is telling people to mail me joints.
Karmaxul- you can tell people to mail me joints but you will never be me! (once again after posting over 60 times in this thread and using the same name that took up 30% of the topic of this thread along with the same aviator and sig I would hope people could follow and put two and two together. Seems I feel the people of this forum are a bit more intelligent then you)

I agree, I have only been here a day and I feel like I have a college degree. (I only used that account for one day and was giving props to you and the other people who teach on this site. With the same sig and aviator I figured the others who read every post would follow. To say I have not learned alot would not be truthfull)

Got any others you need me to explain to you?

[Garden Knowm]

MONKEY guy.. may the world shower you with love..

May you realize that you are NOT spreading kindness..

May you realize that you are obstructing LOVE and Harmony within yourself..



Turtle.. DID i tell you?

YOU are the coolest!!!

[Chris Seekins]

Gknome - may your skin turn from grey to a healthy color so you do not have to wear makeup when in public. I know the feeling. It could be worse, try wearing a gorilla costume in the super market.

[Garden Knowm]

thank you

lol

[Chris Seekins]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=58646

check this out.....please let me know you get it.

[mobay]

chrissy iam getting closer to you. or am i going in the wrong direction, should i head south to savannah and kiss your wife for you.dont get scared yet i have to go to new york 1st, but you will know its me at your door.

[mobay]

just wanted to give you an update to where iam. i have both addresses the 1 in Conn. and the 1 in Savannah. so Trichome Creator, you want to dance with the devil, lets dance

[Chris Seekins]

Take the white stone bridge. Can you wear those cute braids

[mobay]

is that GA. or Conn.? cause i have both locked in the navigation

[Chris Seekins]

The white stone is the bridge in NY to get on to 95. It a bit of a short cut

[Chris Seekins]

If you stop in Mahattan to visit go to 121st street and hop on the Hudson turpike to the white stone. Traffic is not that bad. If you get lost give a call

[Chris Seekins]

I think you can pick it up on 93rd aswell but not exactly sure. Man the DC turnpike is a bitch. Once you pass that its clear till philli where it is easy to get lost. Jersey is not bad but you are not allowed to pump gas so keep that in mind. You will cross into NY over the bridge in Harlem. The first exit is a good place to stop for snacks but wear red.

[BukDatAss]

Monkey shit-
Perhaps you have insight to why you need to fuck with people to feel control. Most likely as in the past you will ignore the question or change the subject as the DEA does when asked certain questions. Helping take some one down does not make you them and you do not take over there energy.

Fuk with people no, Thats not my style I only mess with people that have it coming to them or are looking for it. You cant find anyone else on here that has anything bad to say about me, cause I show respect when respect is due(You would say "where or how did I look for it") I dont have the time to look thru all these threads and hyperlink everything down but I dont know why so many people feel the same as I do so ask your self that question over and over:confused: . I'm not one to be in ur little war debates so just go and post another million replies after mine but remember your face and your mouth are your product straight up SHIT not just any but ur fav monkey shit

[Zandor]

Dont listen to Karmaxul he is an idiot I have known him for many years.
(as I mentioned above I figured that by stating I knew myself you years even a child would follow that I was implying I was the same person after noticing the same sig and aviator)

Who is this Karmaxul character and why is he saying he is me?
Not that I think he is all bad as he is telling people to mail me joints.
Karmaxul- you can tell people to mail me joints but you will never be me! (once again after posting over 60 times in this thread and using the same name that took up 30% of the topic of this thread along with the same aviator and sig I would hope people could follow and put two and two together. Seems I feel the people of this forum are a bit more intelligent then you)

I agree, I have only been here a day and I feel like I have a college degree. (I only used that account for one day and was giving props to you and the other people who teach on this site. With the same sig and aviator I figured the others who read every post would follow. To say I have not learned alot would not be truthfull)

Got any others you need me to explain to you?

And people should believe you because ??????????

That's right they CANT!

I will leave this going just to see if Mobay get's there and kicks your ass. Hell I would pay a buck to watch that.:cool:

go Mobay, :dance: Go Mobay, :dance: Go Mobay GO!!!! :dance: :dance:

[cactusman23]

http://stores.ebay.com/Gorilla-Grow

[Chris Seekins]

That store is in canada, catusman, the owner is chill as hell.

Zandor - just like a pussy to have some one else do your dirty work for you. I got one word for you, "yuppy"

Mobay is a pussy and will not show up. I wonder if he is man enough to send me his address. Or you all can watch others fight the war and when we get it legalized you can take your tails out from inbetween your legs and not be scared

[Chris Seekins]

Zandor - I am not surprised you grow beasters for money. Just another greedy rat. People like you are why it is still illegal. Just consirned about your fat little pocket, beaster boy

[BukDatAss]

Ur funny u little internet gangster, ur are so tough on these boards...LOL

[Chris Seekins]

Zandor - I recommend you dont have kids you seem like the kind of person who vents their frustrations out on the weak. You know instead of coming home stressed out and playing with the kids helping you destress, you would just use your authority position to yell and be a dick cuz your a money lovin, power hungrey, yuppy control freak. Keep growing the nast beater boy. Sell it up and fatten the pockets. Then grow organics for your self and laugh at all the money you make off the custdies who you tell there is no difference in quality.

[Zandor]

Zandor - I am not surprised you grow beasters for money. Just another greedy rat. People like you are why it is still illegal. Just consirned about your fat little pocket, beaster boy

You are warring out your welcome fast!

Where did I ever say I sold?. I did not send Mobay on a road trip, you did that dude. What ever happens if anything is all you man. You brought this all down on your by your own hand. It's your doing not mine. Accept the fact all this trouble is your fault.

[Chris Seekins]

Mobay keep talking like a bitch and I will hack your system through back doors in your program, find your ip and internet provider, hack their system, get your address and pay your cute ass a visit. Hope you got an extra set of teeth. Keep testing me once you reach the limit thats it there is no turning back. I will not tell you when you get there you will know two years later. Like milkshakes?

[BukDatAss]

Oh please do that to me and PLEASE PAY ME A VISIT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...... you little internet monkey gangster cause I wouldnt waste my time to pay ur monkey ass a visit but if u come hear I swear on everything I will not Hide. Please PLease come on bring the cameras I know thats what ur all about exposure for ur monkey shit.

[Chris Seekins]

I kind of like you buk. Nothing against you. I would not do nothing to no one unless you tryed to take my life. Just playing this fucked up little game and trying to see the angle which some draw pleasure from it. I think I will be searching for quite some time.

[JunkYard]

Ok, this is just getting wierd!

It seems that I've missed some things, lol!

Please continue...

[postmandave]

man , yad yada yad yada yad, mobay bro dont play the game bro , this clown cant play his games if no one plays with him,leave him alone and he will go away ,people dont beleave he is tc so just leave it and let him play with himself(he probibaly plays with himself reguarly anyway) no use trying to help when no one beleaves what you are saying anyway, what i cant understand is why he hasnt been banned yet all his accounts as we know he has alot more than 2 , the postman.

[mobay]

bottom line is that ZERO REVOLT = THRICHOME CREATOR = KARMAXUL = CHRIS SEEKINS, this is not my gut feeling this is fact. so if you want to keep on believing this shit hes trying to feed you, go ahead.

POSTMANDAVE, BIG BUK,and I have your number so keep up the shit and you will get exposed.

[JunkYard]

Wow, I thought this was settled several posts back. I guess I was wrong, lol! You got good instincts Mobay. I guess some people are more dupable than others...including myself!

Chris-Karmaxul-TrichomeCreator-ZeroRevolt, you are one crazy sob, man!

yup, yup

You make for good entertainment, though. ;)