MOBAY VS KARMAXUL THOUGHTS

[mobay]

Ok we have started our own thread now. before we get started i want you to go to post #5, you where to go.

[karmaxul]

you beat me to it I will copy our thoughts and post them

M: BIG BUD

M:1 week before cutting her down

K:Mobay looks like a hermie. See the yellow male flowers

M:karmaxul which picture are you looking at?

M:lol , you got to be joking, man i didnt find 1 seed in that grow, wish i did cause i would grow her again.

M:karmaxul out of 940 post let me test your skills, have you ever seen a bud site ( not hermie) on a fan leaf before? cause i posted this picture when i first noticed it and no one here has never seen anything like it. it is called a lucky leaf and is very rare in growing, when i first seen it i searched for an answer on it and the only place i seen the same pic was in high times, and they freaked when they seen it on there plant. so if you have more skills than high times you are the man. but your wrong. i was trying to wait for you to responded to my last question on it but you dont wanta respond. dont let this topic die karmaxul.

K:Mobay, I was lost in the world of tetris, sorry for the delayed reply. It is nothing to worry about the flowers appeared to last into meiosis to make seeds. Most of the time mother plants will stablize them selves under 24 hour light with organic feed. Anyways the yellow on your miracle bud is from a male flower. Have a look see. Whats high times?

K:I will try and do a better job replying in the wee morning hours. I hear it is better to sleep during the day anyways.
Kind regards
Count Dracula

M:so you are telling me when i set that 1 bud in its own container to cure that i was smoking a seed. after i crushed her up i didnt see any seeds, care to explain your motive here.

M:i said to myself that i was going to let things die down, forget alot of shit but it seems as though your fuckin with me.

K:my dear friend mobay I do not fuck with people. Meiosis is when the spores develop in plants, ie sex organs. If pollen is introduced into the equation at this time then seeds will follow. Since the male flowers in this crystally delite developed after this critial stage the seed did not have the time to develop in the five short days before you took it off your "lucky leaf". Most of the time it is seen in sativa varieties at the end of flowering when stress of one kind or another is present.
What is high times?

M:britewire iam sorry , this is your thread and it seems as though karmaxul and i have taken it over . i will start a new thread on this topic, and sorry for this mistake.

K:Me too sorry.




And the picture of the day is.............

[mobay]

hold on pump your breaks, got to post # 5, YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK

[karmaxul]

So my friend, what is your explaination of the yellow male flower in the center of the quality inhanced imaging found above?

[mobay]

I've created a monster.
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WTF?!?


do you want to continue?

[karmaxul]

One of my first plants was a male. It got the lighter stem on all. The flowers I found are not that bad. May not get you high, but damn tastie. That was a straight 20ppm seedweed grow if that. Just some left over ferts from a friend. I know it was purple but not sure the origin, probally olivias cloning solution.

[mobay]

you know me and i know you so lets cut the shit. most of these answers your giving people are coming from google search or somewhere, cause myself cant remember every little detail on growing, but you can have all the answers for everyone being here 1 month and 2 days. and yes the lucky leaf was all female BRO , after looking at what you were looking at , that green area in the pic was new growth with hair coming out which hadnt developed yet into the red pistols you see. and by the way what does kar ma x u all stand 4?

[karmaxul]

karma is basically live in the energy you create.
xul is a ancient arabic word meaning xul I learned while reading the necronomican.
Is mobay in reference to hemmingway?

Why is the leaf yellow and looks like a male flower? I see no red hair.

[mobay]

montego bay bum clot. email me to end this feud if not it can get worst.

[karmaxul]

I dont consider teaching others fueding. Is it not bummba clot?

[mobay]

finally you corrected me bummba clot, well done. so you do want to email me ? yes or no?

[mobay]

i see you post count is getting up there. i had a good friend here before who had a lot of post in a short period of time.

[cnd411]

I would bet the bud on "lucky leaf" NOT growing much bigger until harvest.

[postmandave]

wtf

[postmandave]

about the freak leave, This happens sometimes to plants that are unstable, they tend to grow an extra bud at the end of the petiole(leaf stem) this does not mean the plant is hermie,

[mobay]

cnd 411 no the bud didnt get bigger but it was a good high , better if i would have cured it longer.:stoned: . damn postman did you do a google search as well? glad there are people here that cant back what iam saying. :thumbsup: .

[karmaxul]

ya man drop me a line at [email protected]

[The Grim Reefer]

you know me and i know you so lets cut the shit. most of these answers your giving people are coming from google search or somewhere, cause myself cant remember every little detail on growing, but you can have all the answers for everyone being here 1 month and 2 days. and yes the lucky leaf was all female BRO , after looking at what you were looking at , that green area in the pic was new growth with hair coming out which hadnt developed yet into the red pistols you see. and by the way what does kar ma x u all stand 4?

Ouch, that google comment was uncalled for.

Karmul knows his shit, if you read each of his posts, he doesn't ever contradict himself and he uses the same method of thinking to every problem.

It's really not that hard to remember what you've learned if you apply it consistantly. I'm thinking 198 plants wouldn't make it hard to apply what you've learned.

I'm serious, go read his posts and then try and call bullshit. He consistantly refers to TDS, Supercropping, using a garden sprayer, ect. Hel is the kind of individual who lives to learn, which is exactly how I am.

It's hard for me to forget things at times.

Try to debate without the hate. :D <3

[Garden Knowm]

GOOGLE comment was funny...

i love karma

but google is FUNNY

HEY postman dave.. there was this guy on the boards about 2 months ago.. he had the same screen AV as you.. he came on here and had 1000 posts in 2 months... and then tried to fake his own death to get money from a the people o the site..

the entire event was dramatic to say the least..

ahahahha
anyway
you av git histiry
and it is not good history...

i love you
KARMAXUL you rock...

MOBAY... good policing!!!!!!!

[mobay]

grim reefer your new to this game bro. i been here for a while now, reading almost everything posted here, iam here to help out people here with hands on skills. in my line of work i was tought hands on, getting the best from older people who has done it for a while . i didnt learn my skills by reading a book. if i was to let the cat out of the bag, you and alot of other newbies would think of me differently. god like, lol :thumbsup: garden knowm re-read your post you made to postman dave and think. :confused:

[mobay]

karmaxul i asked you to e-mail me. i still have the same e-mail address. hurry time is waisting

[The Grim Reefer]

grim reefer your new to this game bro. i been here for a while now, reading almost everything posted here, iam here to help out people here with hands on skills. in my line of work i was tought hands on, getting the best from older people who has done it for a while . i didnt learn my skills by reading a book. if i was to let the cat out of the bag, you and alot of other newbies would think of me differently. god like, lol :thumbsup: garden knowm re-read your post you made to postman dave and think. :confused:

So that means my comprehension skills don't mean a thing here? :confused:

Just because I'm a newbie to growing, does NOT mean I'm a newbie to paying attention to what's going on around me.

I'm one of the most observant people you'll ever meet.

I'm sure there's plenty you can teach me, but don't get egotistical on me.

<3 Mobay.

Btw, Karm is logged.

[turtle420]

Ok... so, if I get this right... Mobay is saying that Karmaxul is Trichome Creator?

Well, Karmaxul is running a company...

And he posted a link of a news story with him in it...

And he's been away from the Lounge... which Trichome loved...

??? ???

[stickygreenlightsabr]

karma is basically live in the energy you create.

I know what you're trying to say, but it actually has nothing to do with an energy that you create. It's more about paying the repercussion of your current actions in your next lifetime.

Just getting that out there!

PS - Always a classic...

[BukDatAss]

LOL this is good and I havent even read the whole thing yet but I will tonight LOL:clap: (ding ding ding) :D

[The Grim Reefer]

LOL Turtle. <3

No.

This is a thread created to solve an argument between them about the "picture of the day" (refer to the pic on the 2nd post made my karm)

Knowm was bringing up the fact that his AV looks like Trichome's. (Why, I don't know - it has been on my mind for awhile too.)
It actually looks like an edited version of trichome's with the gaps of white. (much like if you take a picture to MS paint and click on any part of the picture, it leaves a small white dot)

Are you high?! Haha <3

[stickygreenlightsabr]

(and also what happens later in your current life):stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:

[turtle420]

LOL Turtle. <3

No.

This is a thread created to solve an argument between them about the "picture of the day" (refer to the pic on the 2nd post made my karm)

Knowm was bringing up the fact that his AV looks like Trichome's. (Why, I don't know - it has been on my mind for awhile too.)
Well, I see your point... but...

i see you post count is getting up there. i had a good friend here before who had a lot of post in a short period of time.
I think mobay is refering to Trichome...

But I don't think Karmaxul is Trichome... ???

[mobay]

well then reefer , turtle you do believe that karmaxul is who he says he is? well karma i guess people want the truth are you Trichome Creator or not ? when i told everyone that TC will be back well he is back , i wasnt going to say anything cause , i was letting things go. why do you think some of his post are being deleted ? the mods know who he is. now come on turtle 965 post in 1 month 2 days, on TC knew so much on growing. now when he mention the word bro, that was TC 100% and WTF that was his signature. now TC was a friend of mine until the last scam he did and i dont want to see anyone hurt like that in here so thats why i stayed on the subject between him and i. didnt want anyone else getting hurt. but there are people grim reefer who want to take what he says and worship him, yes he is the best teacher around. but when your telling people that they start ordering from him shortly , somethings wrong. 1 last question to all non- beleivers out there , why does he want me to e-mail him?

[stickygreenlightsabr]

Haha.

I get it.

[turtle420]

well then reefer , turtle you do believe that karmaxul is who he says he is?
I don't know... I really don't. ???


but when your telling people that they start ordering from him shortly , somethings wrong. 1 last question to all non- beleivers out there , why does he want me to e-mail him?
Ordering from him... as in, his website?

As to him eMailing you,... I don't know...

[stickygreenlightsabr]

Ok, so then who is 9KtuFK?

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=55790

Haha...

[The Grim Reefer]

well then reefer , turtle you do believe that karmaxul is who he says he is? well karma i guess people want the truth are you Trichome Creator or not ? when i told everyone that TC will be back well he is back , i wasnt going to say anything cause , i was letting things go. why do you think some of his post are being deleted ? the mods know who he is. now come on turtle 965 post in 1 month 2 days, on TC knew so much on growing. now when he mention the word bro, that was TC 100% and WTF that was his signature. now TC was a friend of mine until the last scam he did and i dont want to see anyone hurt like that in here so thats why i stayed on the subject between him and i. didnt want anyone else getting hurt. but there are people grim reefer who want to take what he says and worship him, yes he is the best teacher around. but when your telling people that they start ordering from him shortly , somethings wrong. 1 last question to all non- beleivers out there , why does he want me to e-mail him?

I'm not saying you're wrong.

However, I've read all articles on him as well as heard his personal story and he hasn't been living with a wife and/or kids to my knowledge.

He's asked me to e-mail him on numerous occasions so the fact that he asked you to e-mail him is so he doesn't have to come back to these boards and keep checking on what was said. So the fact that he's asking you to e-mail him means nothing to me.

Instead he can open his e-mail box, and read and have a private chat.

Have you read the clippings on him? Do you know his real name? Have you seen the news stories?

I'll admit I wasn't around when TC was thriving. But out of curiousity I went back and read almost half of TC's posts a few weeks ago. (mostly because I'm a nosy bastard)

They seem to have quite a few contradictions in technique.

Say what you will mobay, I'll need proof.

<3 you.

[mrabrego]

Fucking attention whores, just grow it and smoke it and dont tell anyone.:rasta:

[The Grim Reefer]

Fucking attention whores, just grow it and smoke it and dont tell anyone.:rasta:

Attention whore nothing!

I'm not parading my nuts around the block telling people I smoke.

Chill out and add some substance to the thread or don't make a comment at all.

<3 brego

:thumbsup:

[mobay]

grim if you werent around when TC scammed almost everyone here, you dont have that gut feeling. i myself wouldnt admit thats me on some news channel, its just the way the man works he gets his hooks set in you, trusting in his every word and you wire money to his account for his products and BAM, your fucked without any grease. have you read his articles around christmas time? ZERO REVOLT was 1st i think faked his death, the here comes TRICHOME CREATOR scammed people out of cars , money , christmas gifts, took everything that was given to him with no remorse. if he was to say he had a family and kids that would have blown his cover on post # 1. just do a little more research on TC and KARMAXUL 1st before answering. garden knowm hit it right on the button when posting to postmandave. turtle can you truly say it not him looking back at some of his post?

[karmaxul]

Man who the trichrome?

As to who I am, I am hafe ape and two thirds human backcrossed three times. The last of my breed.

The Medical Marijuana party sent me so stuff from DC today. It got some news broadcasts and stuff. I guess they heard about my fight.

Mobay um hook up the email I am not a mind reader.

[Garden Knowm]

ummmmmm..

first off.. KARMA is not what you say it is...
KARMA = thoughts

PERIOD... that's it..
stop thinking and you stop karma..

don't believe the hype... that karma is anything besides YOUR THOUGHTS.. what you are thinking... .. and for all you shmoes that think that just cause you smoke somebody out.. your karma will get you smoked out later.. I love you... LOL

I speak from NOW
I AM..

now back to the feature presentation drama...

In the way way way early days of KARMA...
like 3 weeks ago... LOL

I thought he was TC .. just cause he KNOWS everything and I dont understand a word he says...


and that was kinda the same with TC...

But since I AM

i could give a shit less who scams who for what.. cause I am happy with a handful of dirt to wipe my own ass with... when something happens to ME...
I DONT BLAME..
i look INWARD....
There is nobody here responsible for my INNER hapiness besides me

love


MObay.. I am curious what you think about that video that KARMA posted.. he says its him.. It is the news story about the guy with Cannabis leaves painted on his house...?


in closing

you are all awesome
TURTLE, REEFER and the CC POSSE YOU ROCK

and you all make me smile like a MOTHER FLUFFER!!!!!!

[mobay]

man dont play games with me , i know who you are and you know who you are , so stop the bullshit. when i told this forum i wasnt gonna bother with Trichome Creator anymore, and was gone from the scene for awhile Karmaxul comes and starts right where TC left off. now we wouldnt be at this point if you didnt leave me alone, but no you had to pick with me. yes you know your shit and all , you thought me well but your bitch wife ( beachchic) or something like that that i told you to get in contact with me.asap. cause we have some unsolved issues we have to deal with.

[karmaxul]

Alright I have a solution to if I am the guy on the video or not. I want everyone to send me a certain number of joints and tell no one. Put a fake return address and your cannabis name in the package. I will get them smoke them and post the number. It is the only logical way.
Chris Seekins
24 High St.
Winsted CT 06098

[karmaxul]

Mobay dog, you really should not drink so heavily on a school night. What are you talking about?

[mobay]

GK who in there right mind would post anything about them selves in the forums here? ZERO REVOLT/ TC/KARMAXUL cause the video isnt of him.

[karmaxul]

There is only one way to find out. Mail the dude some joints.

[mobay]

now i know its him who the fuck would give their info .not karmaxul he's to smart for that. why would anyone send you weed ? how about you go get a newspaper todays date and pose next to it

[karmaxul]

If I get a paper do I have your word you will mail me a joint for my troubles? I call the feds and tell them off every week it is no secert what I do.

[mobay]

There is only one way to find out. Mail the dude some joints.
__________________
One Love


mail the dude some joints i thought your were that dude? thought you were typing under your other scam name

[karmaxul]

So whats your answer Mobay? I dont drive for nothing. Are you a person of your word?

[mobay]

TC you cant hype me bro i can get sick with the best of them.
what does your name really mean

karma - x - u - all, we did nothing to you , you did it to us.

[mobay]

TC use to give out names in the forums , why do you?

[karmaxul]

Here man stop your nonsense..... wheres my joint?

[turtle420]

ummmmmm..

first off.. KARMA is not what you say it is...
KARMA = thoughts

PERIOD... that's it..
stop thinking and you stop karma..

don't believe the hype... that karma is anything besides YOUR THOUGHTS.. what you are thinking... .. and for all you shmoes that think that just cause you smoke somebody out.. your karma will get you smoked out later.. I love you... LOL

I speak from NOW
I AM..
Man, gK, we've exchanged some eMails in the past...

But this last post of yours? Now I'm convinced... you must be a very interesting person to meet and have as a friend. Not in a gay way...

I like your thoughts on Karma... but you talk about it as if you'd brush your teeth with it in the morning! Interesting... lol interesting... ;)

As to the foggy video, it'll get done. I need some actual 1st grow before, so I'm going DWC... but, trust me dude, I'm very eager to go the foggy ways of growing...

Now,

<><<>>>M><>><<>
Back to our drama....

M<M<M<>>>>>

Ok, damn it...

Mobay, Karmaxul... what the fucks up?

Can't a mod check the IPs?

Fuck,... I don't know what to think.

Karmaxul's advice seems solid... although, I wonder how the fuck does he post in a Cannabis.com board, says he's grown, and still manages to run a company incorporated in the USA. That's beyond me....

I see in his address he says he's from CT... Conneticut? Is weed legal there? Medical?

??????

Hey Karmaxul, I hope this is all a big ball of shit... and everything will be ok in the future... we like your advice (take Mobay out). But, if it's a ball of shit, you're an ape... so, it'll be semi-good.... :confused: :confused:

Oh shit... don't know what else to think!

gK, send some Bottled Karma over, please.

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[mobay]

thats the same scanner TC used with his fake car accident brain tumor shit

[karmaxul]

Its legal for me turtle.

[karmaxul]

If I get a paper, tomorrow, I need your word you will mail me a joint of that big bud Mobay. Do we have a deal?

[mobay]

so i guess GK just advised you of what karma really stands for . your thoughts = karma and x u all is for us in the forums who you scammed. and for your comment turtle i will never be taken out by a scammer.

[turtle420]

If I get a paper, tomorrow, I need your word you will mail me a joint of that big bud Mobay. Do we have a deal?
Mobay?

[mobay]

how about i come to georgia and bring it to you .

[karmaxul]

I can run my company because the DEA are stupid pussies who scamper like the crooked fucks they are every time I call them. You can download some of the calls off kazaa under the artist deaphone.


Mobay?

[turtle420]

and for your comment turtle i will never be taken out by a scammer.
Thanks for not getting pissed-off...

No, I didn't mean "taken out"... by no one. We don't want you out. I don't want you out.

I meant "(take Mobay out)" as in the 'equation' that I was postulating of 'We' in the boards.

As in, "we all love you, except Mobay".

I wrote it::: "we all love you (take Mobay out)".

But no dude, no attacks on you.

Peace and love Mobay...

-turtle420 :cool:
.

[turtle420]

I can run my company because the DEA are stupid pussies who scamper like the crooked fucks they are every time I call them.
So you're telling us you've got the balls of a gorilla?

[mobay]

your not that fucking stupid to be growing and fucking with the dea. which forum did you come from before you came here last month? my fault you were here all along.

[karmaxul]

Thanks I send the love right back

Mobay two things

1. Paper? Joint? Yes/No
2. Still want your dirt?

For the record I am mad dumb

[mobay]

thanks turtle, lol

1st is the video GK is talking about have your face in the video? 2nd need your face with the newspaper next to it. dont forget the city you said you live in.

[turtle420]

I can run my company because the DEA are stupid pussies who scamper like the crooked fucks they are every time I call them.
So you're telling us you've got the balls of a gorilla?

LOL

[mobay]

turtle he will never get his fert product off the ground , because people read this , him calling the dea pussies, will be to scared to deal with him and the dea. but i know he's not that stupid to fuck with the dea and grow and own his own business and sell ferts/ nutes. in the USA with bush still president, lol

[graph]

Alright, I can end this right now.

Karmaxul, with your permission and help, I'd like to trace your ip, email, and website back to the main server to tell from where this is coming from. It'll tale maybe an hour, at most, and will not cause harm to your equipment in any way.

Mobay, if you know anything about TC, or where he is now, I can get that as well. All I need is an active connection from his server.

[turtle420]

in the USA with bush still president, lol
THERE WE GO!!!

Now, you two have ANOTHER thing in common!

[turtle420]

Alright, I can end this right now.

Karmaxul, with your permission and help, I'd like to trace your ip, email, and website back to the main server to tell from where this is coming from. It'll tale maybe an hour, at most, and will not cause harm to your equipment in any way.

Mobay, if you know anything about TC, or where he is now, I can get that as well. All I need is an active connection from his server.
What???

You're an uber-hacker and you didn't tell me?

What you talkin' 'bout Willys?! (<-- Arnold)

[graph]

heheheh yeah... I just need some info from the gorilla before I go on

[karmaxul]

Mobay you still have not answered my question I asked?

Graph knock yourself out man. I dont run firewalls so it should be easy

Bush owes me money and is a rapest puppet bitch.

[mobay]

lol turtle

[mobay]

the answer is yes if you can answer mine. why weed how about money?
100 dollars who do you want me to wire the money to ?

[jakenthegentiles]

wate i can tell u iv taken evey pece of advice from karmaxul and evey thing seems fine and the deas not knoken on my door with no worents

[jakenthegentiles]

and i was consitering buying some gruilla grow but its sold out if he is a scamer it wouldnt say sold out and so what exceopts it pisses me off when potheads get riped off scammers shoudl go for rich people that dont smoek pot caus pot head s need to buy pot and if they get scamed they cant

[mobay]

lol here you go again lol GK do you see this shit

[graph]

Alright, I'm starting it right now. Might take me like a half an hour.

Hey, can I get money too?

[karmaxul]

Because smoking money gives me a sore throat.

[karmaxul]

I am just taking distributer orders this month.

So Mobay I have your word that when I get a paper tomorrow and scan it you will send me a joint?

[graph]

Actually, I lied, I'm done. Karmaxul, the way you set up everything perfectly proves it's you. If you want, I can post my results. You may want me to keep it a secret, though. Hurry up though, a couple more minutes and I'll just post it.

[mobay]

hey inbred, TC gave me the best advise known to man on my grow. but reading his story at christmas time i felt sorry for him and gave him money, so you keep on getting all the advise from karmaxul and i hope he splits your butt cheeks apart.

[karmaxul]

do it up dude

Mobay I am not a rapest, and you did not answer my question

[turtle420]

and i was consitering buying some gruilla grow but its sold out if he is a scamer it wouldnt say sold out and so what exceopts it pisses me off when potheads get riped off scammers shoudl go for rich people that dont smoek pot caus pot head s need to buy pot and if they get scamed they cant
ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO

Jake, I love you dude... you're hillarious!!! :D :D

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :dance: :dance: :stoned: :stoned:

[mobay]

damn tc someone gave you a extra computer to.

[jakenthegentiles]

mother fuck who u callen inbred i moved here i can tellu my moms not my sister and were guan have soem problems teh nexttiem u say somten liek that caus i hate inbred snand i hate rednecks

[karmaxul]

Mobay lets try and focus on the question at hand.

[jakenthegentiles]

maby your tc mobay hua is it u dam mabe u ripet peoepl off and u wnat peopekl to think it sosme one lese aso u can do uit agen caus thats what id do if i was a sacmer

well i think i just solved this mistery
now excuse me they dontc all me sherlock mother fucken holms for nothen


pwn3d in your ass mobay!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahhah

[karmaxul]

Mobay the question remember?

[mobay]

lol lol lol lol

[turtle420]

mother fuck who u callen inbred i moved here i can tellu my moms not my sister and were guan have soem problems teh nexttiem u say somten liek that caus i hate inbred snand i hate rednecks
OH FUCK!!!! THIS IS TOO MUCH!!!!

Jake, he's just fucking with you.!!!!!

ROFLMAO

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Alright, so a few of you won't be able to read this. What this says is that Christopher Seekins of CT created gorillagrow.org, under the email address [email protected]. He set it up with an apache server, which runs out of Fort Lauderdale in Florida. This was run through register.com, which is where he registered the name for the site.

I can go into a complex explanation of how I got this information, which I will be more than happy to do to prove karmaxul is not Trichome Creator.

By the way, CS, I also saw the side of your house. That's pretty good.

[mobay]

i answered your question already bro. i will wire you money 100 dollars whats wrong you dont like money?

[turtle420]

now excuse me they dontc all me sherlock mother fucken holms for nothen
HAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA@Q@!!!!!!!!!

OMG!!!

Where the hell's Garden?!!!

LOL !!!!!!!!!!

[jakenthegentiles]

hes just trying to mess with peopels minds and i can tellu what mobay iv taken enuff acid to know a few things like evey thing wate if u think hes a scammer y woudl u wire him money thats just dumb hahha :dance: wat a dummie

[karmaxul]

yo man can you do that for this web site the mother fucker owes me 7000 dollars http://alohamexico.com/

your computer skills amaze me:thumbsup:

[mobay]

thats funny TC went to florida to live with his dad, damn thats odd

[graph]

yeah, and unless trichome creator runs register.com or their servers, it makes no difference.

[jakenthegentiles]

and whats odder is that u bleved a scammer hahhhaahah he didnt scam me for shit caus i have almot no simpthey for peopel caus due to a acid revalation i find it when u have simpthey for some one that just makes u a weaker person

[karmaxul]

hey my dad lives in florida

thanks man I have not been able to get his address yet

[karmaxul]

I dont agree helping others makes you stronger for sure

[graph]

Yeah, you're right turtle.

I'm emailing it to you karma.

[jakenthegentiles]

i do have simpthey for cs cause he was just tryen to start a company and teh dea went inthe water naked rolled around in teh sand got there penis allsandy and shoved it up is ass and t aht is ppritty shitty

[turtle420]

Hey karma, here's the guy that runs that site

+++++
Address: ++++++
Email Address: XXXXX
Phone Number: (325)xxxx
Fax Number: (325)xxxxx
Graph, can you still edit this out???

I don't think addys and names are good in the boards... I think Zandor has deleted two or three in the past...

[mobay]

Hit me up on Gaim at GWDivaDC I dont want to pay for yahoo gaim is free
__________________
One Love

damn isnt your email [email protected]

[jakenthegentiles]

ya helping peopel makes u stronger but it wont stop me if soem oen wantsto start soem shit and fight i dont care if tehy havecanser r retated have the runs glasses blind deff flat footed and a cronic masterbatrion problem idont care illstillfightthem and wont fell bad about it caus they came loone for trouble cau si never go looking it just finds me

[karmaxul]

Man thats graphic. I got a lesson in karma for those bastards. It was the local cops though trying to impress some rich rapest who I dont get along with. He owns the largest construction company in CT called O&G Construction and is a rapest and stole my dog. His name is Ben ONielia

[graph]

mobay, he was talking about messenger, not mail, I believe. If you would like me to prove to you that it really isn't trichome, I can spend about half an hour explaining the process.

[karmaxul]

Thanks Graph much love, which email you sending it to?

[graph]

[email protected]

Thanks for the advice turtle. You saved my ass I guess.

[mobay]

if he has yahoo messenger is free

[jakenthegentiles]

i dont care if karmaxul is a scamer i saw that video and he looks chill as hell and id most deffinataly be friends with him if i knew him in facat id definataly help him wth his shit caus he remids me of my friend that taught me alla bout karma and i feel bad for him and hes cool and ya my barain is fried man o ya karma when u get a chance can u reply to my thred in basic growing about the smell if u havent done it my old mans realy bucklen down

[karmaxul]

Got it thanks man, you made my day

[graph]

No problem.

Mobay, I think you owe me 100 dollars.

[jakenthegentiles]

o mobay got pwn3d hxc style inteh buttt liek thats soem bondage shit

[mobay]

there u fucked up bro right there , hard to work 2 computers at once

[karmaxul]

Man I am lost
What was TC sellin?

[mobay]

you fucked up bro

[jakenthegentiles]

no its pritty easy maby ur just retared or somthen

[mobay]

you replied under graph, that i owed you 100 dollars lol got you

[mobay]

why the fuck did you edit your words stupid lol

[graph]

sorry, I'm not a gorilla. I was just implying that I was the one who proved you wrong, and if you owe anyone 100 dollars around here, it's me. Now, I could explain the process of reverse tracing dns servers, searching geolocations, etc., but you probably still won't believe me. I don't think you're helping anyone anymore, you're just attacking people.

[jakenthegentiles]

maby hes a petafile o man iv spentthe hoel time maken fun of him an dgiggling my ass off i wish iwas high this woudl be so funny even tho im finding it helarious but still

[mobay]

TC i dont attack people if you look at all my post. TC and his other names are the only people i went after BRO. lol, graph / karmaxul/ tc i proved my point. iam done

ps proving someone wrong was between you and karma not me.

[JunkYard]

All this over a disagreement about a possible hermie?

You guys crack me up, lol!

Keep it going, though. I'm having a hell of a time lurking on this thread, haha!

[jakenthegentiles]

good now go find soem littel bows and pleasher them so u can get soem satisfactionof living

[jakenthegentiles]

i attack peopel its fun

[jakenthegentiles]

wow dude if u have a conspery theory that graph karmaxul and tc r allteh same person i say u need to seriously SERIOUSLAY need to lay off teh hash caus ur way paranoid bro

[graph]

honestly, look at my posts. Do I sound like karma? Would he make 182 posts just to prove your point? I can give you evidence, explain my way of showing you this evidence, and help you to understand as best I can he isn't TC. But because you know "in your gut" it's him, then that makes my evidence false? If anyone here is trying to scam people, I think it's you. You are trying to deter people from the truth, and why? Because you think you're right? I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense.

[jakenthegentiles]

i knew it i shoudl get the money i found teh scammer i knew it allalong i cna liek tellteh future or somthen

[jakenthegentiles]

u ever get a pece of hair in ur eye i just did and it realy pisst me off

[karmaxul]

Whatup junkyard

[JunkYard]

What up, man? You having fun yet, lol!?

[Kush Over]

These could explain some things..

Trichome Creator thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=48108&highlight=trichome+creator

Mobay thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=47673&highlight=trichome+creator

Mobay thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=48022&highlight=trichome+creator

Mobay thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=47789&highlight=trichome+creator

Friendowl thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=47777&highlight=trichome+creator

Trichome Creator thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=47357&highlight=trichome+creator

Trichome Creator thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=44131&highlight=trichome+creator

And this.. odd.

Zero Revolt's thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=36126&highlight=trichome+creator

[graph]

Oh man, I hate people like me in these forums.

[karmaxul]

So lost at this point jumping between tetris and cannabis

[Kush Over]

Jumping between names / computer terminals, you mean?

[JunkYard]

Once bitten, twice shy, I guess?

Even so, has Karma asked anyone for anything? All I see is him trying to help others.

Or, am I missing something?

[karmaxul]

ya that too

[graph]

Yeah, I'm karma. And Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK with a magic bullet.

Seriously kush over, by that logic you could be mobay.

Hey JunkYard, how's it goin, I don't think I've ever talked to you before. How's life?

[Kush Over]

That's funny. I never quite mentioned your name, Graph. In fact, I had no thought of it until now.

Thanks for the tip.

[JunkYard]

Life is what it is, man, lol!

Are you enjoying this as much as I am?

[mobay]

well graph i have never ask anyone for money to feed my family, cause iam a man that does for his family, so your way off for calling me a scammer BRO. iam not the 1 who fucked up saying i owe you 100 dollars, you did and it cant be deleted. you was working on the wrong computer when you said it , you should have been on karmaxul computer when you said it. iam not trying to deter people from the truth , shit TC tought me everything i know about growing, and i would have chilled and let him finish teaching me ( karmaxul/ TC) how to grow cause all 3 of you bitches know how to grow. so no iam a student here learning. out of all of your post you never mentioned karmxul, what makes today so special? when the shit was hitting the fan on him, you came in with this bit of evidence. damn your good.thats what happened when TC stepped in for zero revolt.

[graph]

Kush Over, about ten posts back mobay made the same claim, and I assumed that's what that "jumping between computers" joke was about.

I'm kind of enjoying it. It's kind of getting on my nerves. I kind of just don't car. I guess I'm just complicated like that, you know?

Hey, I just saw your post, mobay, and if you look back me and karma had a history in the beginning. We've talked in a few of the same posts. You just gotta dig for the info, you know? Besides, it's not my fault you got scammed. I know, it sucks ass that it happened, but it's not my fault, and it's not karma's either. I believe TC and karma to be two seperate people, you may believe differently, and that's cool, and I think you've done a good job about warning people. But after a while, it just sounds like you're attacking someone, which isn't cool, and trust me, you can't always trust your instincts. By the way, I suck ass at growing, and I've read your posts about bending. I hope to try that when I have some more area for my experiments. That's the end of that.

[Kush Over]

well graph i have never ask anyone for money to feed my family, cause iam a man that does for his family, so your way off for calling me a scammer BRO. iam not the 1 who fucked up saying i owe you 100 dollars, you did and it cant be deleted. you was working on the wrong computer when you said it , you should have been on karmaxul computer when you said it. iam not trying to deter people from the truth , shit TC tought me everything i know about growing, and i would have chilled and let him finish teaching me ( karmaxul/ TC) how to grow cause all 3 of you bitches know how to grow. so no iam a student here learning. out of all of your post you never mentioned karmxul, what makes today so special? when the shit was hitting the fan on him, you came in with this bit of evidence. damn your good.thats what happened when TC stepped in for zero revolt.

All my suspicions exactly. Hammer on the nail's fucking head.

[graph]

I edited my last post, by the way.

Oh, and I forgot something. Look back, I think it was the first post I made here. It said something about how I should get money. THAT'S what I was referring to.

So junkyard, what are you up to right now besides reading this?

[karmaxul]

Man I have not seen fear and loathing insuch a long time. I wish I was in the desert tripping out right now. I think moving fast would be better.

[JunkYard]

I just ate a bowl of chicken and dumplings. Other than that, I'm occupying space...I'm a little bored as well, which is why I'm lurking, haha!

Not that it's not an interesting thread, but you know... If I had something better to do, I would. I'm out of weed, too. Kinda sucks, man.

[JunkYard]

Man I have not seen fear and loathing insuch a long time. I wish I was in the desert tripping out right now. I think moving fast would be better.

It was on TV the other day. I love that movie, man. I heard the book was good, too. Hunter is a trip!

[graph]

I don't think anyone would post on these boards if they had something better to do, that's life. Yeah, I'm out too. Luckily I have enough resin to last me a week (I have a lot of bowls). Speaking of which, last night I broke my first roor bowl. It was stock, and I have a much better one, but still. Memories, you know?

[mobay]

kush over you see what these 2 crazy bitches are saying ? graph / karmaxul u2 bitches can type to each other all i care and i hope you get sick from spinning in the chair, from computer to computer.

they made a movie about you its called PRIMAL FEAR. arron/ roy

[karmaxul]

ya gotta rent it or find it on ebay, definatly a trip

Mobay I accually have four computers, can you guess my other names?

[graph]

yeah, I like fear and loathing, too. It kinda makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

[karmaxul]

I am hoping when I watch it I can get some flash backs.

[Kush Over]

kush over you see what these 2 crazy bitches are saying ? graph / karmaxul u2 bitches can type to each other all i care and i hope you get sick from spinning in the chair, from computer to computer.

they made a movie about you its called PRIMAL FEAR. arron/ roy


I'm seeing something. Looks like some trifling, fucked up something. But it's something.

All I can say is let this battle be won. If he tries it again, intervene. Just stay alert and on the no bullshit policy.

But right now all I can say is pack a bowl and get lit -- relax and don't let one fuck-up's life bog you down.

[JunkYard]

Primal Fear was a great movie. Hell yeah, I have it on DVD. :thumbsup:

Yup, yup...

I want to know if you're right, though, Mobay. I can imagine him switching from pc to pc to pc to pc, etc... That's funny stuff, man! I highly doubt this is the case, but it makes for good laugh.

Although, if it is infact TC, I wouldn't be surprized at all. I've heard about that fella...

Shameful one, he is...

Yup, yup!

I've seen Fear and Loathing a hundred times, Karma, and Graph, or TC, or whoever you all are, lol! I'd be trippin balls if I were stoned, man!

This is too funny,

[karmaxul]

Its been a while for me, dont think I have seen that filc in 7 years. Still remember it though, great picture.

[graph]

Sadly, I'm really not karma. I live in LA. I just think it's funny, kind of like a salem witch trial. I tell them it's not the same person and give them evidence. Thus, I MUST be the same person. I mean hey, karma could be trichome creator, and if I was a mod or spent more time pursuing this I could track the seperate ip's but I don't know enough about trichome creator.

Ever seen the movie platoon? johnny depp's in it, but he has a really small role.

[JunkYard]

I watched "Dazed and Confused" today. It doesn't compare to Fear and Loathing, but I good flick just the same.

[graph]

never seen it. What's it about?

[JunkYard]

It's about a bunch of high schoolers in the 70's. It's funny as they come, though.

[BukDatAss]

:D HaHaHa LOLOLOL:D Its just so freakin weird that I too also thought that Karmaxul was TC when K first started posting.... I was even going to post TC? after 1 of his comments.:D Now I really know it is TC...LOL:D I'm 100% with Mobay on this one.. I never got scammed but I was there for the whole thing and so were many others.

It doesnt bother me as long as:NO ONE SHOULD EVER PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM ANYONE ON A THESE FORUMS UNLESS
YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT CAN HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE PRODUCTSetc.....

Yes TC was a big ass scammer and after I read this threadhttp://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=56798I thought and still think it has TC written all over it:o O well thats just my opinion I dont really care,Karmaxul/TC are really well informed on thier growing statements. Just remember what I said people NO MORE SCAMMERS lets not forget what these forums are for. K N O W L E D G E :cool:

[Garden Knowm]

Mobay.. his face is iin the video... he is being interviewed by a local news agency..

i will try to find you a link...

hold on

love

[karmaxul]

http://fox61.trb.com/news/wtic-news-videogallery,0,4709483.videogallery?coll=wtic-news-1&track=newslink

winsted pot house scroll down

but how do you know what tc looked like?

[BukDatAss]

LOL that way a funny vid LOL

NOW POST UR DRIVERS LIC. LOL to close the chapter:D

[karmaxul]

Different address only had the house for a year. Check the letter to congress I posted on the other page. You will see the same name town and street. I am not that motivated. You post your drivers licence. I did three other interviews that day and they showed it in other states aswell

[karmaxul]

Man I love frisbee. Ill be here when you stop by. I rarely leave home.

[Kush Over]

1,000 posts for Karmaxul!

[BukDatAss]

keep giving good info:dance:

[Garden Knowm]

BUK..

yikes that picture is scary.....

LOL

[Garden Knowm]

so is there a verdict...
i went to the movies and came back and saw all this.. stuff
what happened
can comebody sum it up for me in a couple sentences

: )

[graph]

Hey karma, I have your number. When should I call?

[mobay]

www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/5038214/detail.html

well copying someone elses news broadcast can very easy to do.

[karmaxul]

Any time man, any time

[karmaxul]

Mobay now get a letter on congressional letterhead to go with it.

I dig the harpin story

[Garden Knowm]

this case still being tried....

[sheist]

this is awesome.. so wait.. a male plant with a female flower?? if so, couldnt that be considered a hermie?

[karmaxul]

Alright TC was my room mate but it wasnt me.
shiest it is a hermie. I spent hours digitally enhancing it

[mobay]

what is your court date for the marijuana case graph

[karmaxul]

April 6. It was supposed to be last Friday but the states attorney called me and was like I cant be there can we have it next month. So I gave him a month to put somthing together. They dont got shit on me.

[mobay]

100 plants you forgot they found in your house. what do you mean they have nothing on you? did you forget the video you copied

[mobay]

fuck man just admit it your TC and help us grow shit.

[Garden Knowm]

Alright TC was my room mate but it wasnt me.
shiest it is a hermie. I spent hours digitally enhancing it


?

uh oh

[mobay]

Jan-06-2006, 02:15
Trichome Creator
Registered Join Date: Nov-18-2005
Location: Secret Location
Posts: 1,939



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I've created a monster.
__________________
WTF?!?

in the beinging of this thread this was the post i was telling you to go to.

it was my thread starting my hydro log

[Kush Over]

I can just see Karmaxul..

"I COULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT IF IT WEREN'T FOR THOSE KIDS AND THAT DAMN DOG!"




Scooby-Dooby-Dooo!

[Garden Knowm]

ahahhahahahahaha

LOL@kush

[karmaxul]

GK he used to live with me but he moved down to Florida with his father. His real name was Charlie Moonrise, he visits me in my dreams every other thursday

[Kush Over]

...he visits me in my dreams every other thursday..

Holy Shit! That's like some.. K-PAX shit! Are you going to go comatose when 'Charlie Manson -- Moonrise' goes back to K-Pax?

[karmaxul]

They should have dried the plants as wet plants in ziplock bags + five months = mold.

[karmaxul]

K pax ? O the movie never saw it. I may go comatose, depends on the season

[graph]

I thought thursday was my day.

It's gonna be funny if I call the cs from gorillagrow.org and it turns out karmaxul is just using his name.

[Garden Knowm]

GK he used to live with me but he moved down to Florida with his father. His real name was Charlie Moonrise, he visits me in my dreams every other thursday


this is a joke i don't get..
right?

: ) ?????


*knowm has thumb in his ass and needs help*

[Kush Over]

Yeah, K-Pax. Kevin Spacey, Jeff Bridges..

Eh..

[mobay]

thank you everyone for sticking it out in here with me. 184 post and 673 views in 1 fuckin day. damn man we could have ended this in 5 post or less. and for all you non believers in me , iam only here to help bottom line. scobbie dobbie doooooooo, this 1's 4 u.

[karmaxul]

The only real way to find out is to mail him some joints and if it is me I will post the number of joints you sent me.

[graph]

anything for you mobay

[Garden Knowm]

so what is the verdict..

?

[mobay]

karmaxul stop man TC name wasnt what you say it is. i know his name , his wifes name , his address, his phone number, the quickest way to get to his house . so BRO just drop it

[Garden Knowm]

Mobay,
can you sum up your position.. for me. up to this point..

please....

i love you

[mobay]

karmaxul knows his shit and i wouldnt mind him here to help others grow. GK you know what the final outcome of this verdict is TC's back and he's here to help us grow. period

[mobay]

GK go to post #73, 74 and 80 lol and 84

[mobay]

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 200
User Name Posts
mobay 50
karmaxul 48
graph 23
jakenthegentiles 17
turtle420 14
Garden Knowm 12
JunkYard 9
Kush Over 9
The Grim Reefer 5
stickygreenlightsabr 4
BukDatAss 4
postmandave 2
sheist 1
mrabrego 1
cnd411 1

1 day is this a record or what?

[Garden Knowm]

Can you really call what JAKEN does "posting"..

seems more like a computer glitch to me

[Garden Knowm]

so KArma.. monkey dude.. you really are TC,....?

your the christmas bandit..

i never met a real internet bandit..

you're like the modern day jesse James..

anyway....

i guess that means the gorilla guano is not real?

well

you should make that shit real.. gorilla guano will BE HUGE!!!!

: )

i saw a television commercial tonight for "organic miracle grow soil"

I love YOU

[mobay]

BIG BUK where you at ?

[Garden Knowm]

It would be really nice to GET HARDON's opinion on all this...

I think he was intergral in breaking the TC case..

correct?

[graph]

I saw an ad for gorillagrow in high times. The same one advertised on the news stories. The gorillagrow website is registered under the same name shown on the news stories. Same address as well.

That sounds like a lot of work to put in.

[Garden Knowm]

deep
deep
deep
deep
deep
under cover?
LOL

so graph..
if you were on the jury...

you would say that TC and Karma are 2 different people?

[JunkYard]

O.k, I'm confused? Is Karma TC, or what?

I've got to know the truth, lol!

Best thread ever!!!!!

[graph]

alright, I first have to state I wasn't around until the very end of TC, so I don't know a lot. However, it's easier just to trust people than constantly think everyone's out to get you. I think a few people got scammed on a huge scale, were never able to have closure, and need someone to attack. Whether or not karmuxul is TC, I don't know. I don't think there's enough evidence to convict, though. If I was a moderator of this site and was able to get a hold of ip addresses, though, I could see their areas and tell you whether or not it was logical they were the same person.

I do believe that karmaxul is CS. Unless TC went through hundreds of areas, looking for some kid who got caught for marijuana, took his information, created a website based on this (gorillagrow.org), registered the website under the name karmaxul, joined the boards here, got lucky that the same kid painted leaves on his door, posted information about this, and then forged papers to prove this, they are the same person. (CS and karmaxul, I mean) That sounds like way too much work to me.

Things happened in this order:
February 3, 2006: gorillagrow.org was created, registered under CS and includes the name karmaxul (I'm not gonna say how for privacy reasons)
February 18, 2006: Karmaxul joined the forums
March 16, 2006: CS gets complaints of pot leaves on the side of his house

See, it would take a lot of work to fool everyone. Not only work, but money as well. According to Occam's Razor, it is most likely that they are two different people.

[elcheapo]

I can't be sure that Karmaxul isn't TC. At the end of the day it shouldn't matter. You seem cool Mobay, but you were extremely gullible falling for TC's scam. Now it appears as though you may have a serious case of the 'noids'. Thanks for alerting people to the possibility though and please take no offence.
All I know about Karmaxul is that he seems to have extensive knowledge of organic growing, is a vegetarian and doesn't seem to be pro chemical hydroponics. He has made some plugs in regards to his Gorilla Grow product but I respect him for not shoving it down peopleâ??s throats. He has even questioned Zandors knowledge! My thoughts are that TC respected Zandor, was pro chemical hydro and seemed to post negative/sarcastic remarks about some peoples grows. Karmaxul from what I've seen so far has only posted positive comments.
All that being said, I could be wrong. I didn't know TC like you did Mobay. The only thing in common between them I found is that Karmaxul seems to enjoy 'owning the boards' like TC did.

[graph]

Hey man... you gotta avoid the noids. They've come to steal your pizza.

And to you, the garden knowmiest, I might be more inclined to believe it is TC, but mobay also thinks that I'm TC. Not only does that someone piss me off, as I think I have my own unique style of writing and something unique to add to these forums, but it also makes me disregard this guy's gut feeling as wrong. Knowmy, remember like two months ago when I was asking questions about lighting? I'm a master grower indeed! Mobay also said karmaxul googles his answers, but then says that TC taught him how to grow. Contradictions are the devil's hotpants.

[turtle420]

WOW!!!

What a fucking good-morning wake-up surprise!

This has been great. To be honest, from what I've quickly skimped:
1- I'm still not convinced Karmaxul is TC
2- I love you Mobay
3- I think Graph is ... graph...

Peace out people... I'm getting pushed out the door... .ARGHHH!!!

Love to all,

-turtle420 :cool:
.

BTW: gKnowm, computer glitch/posting... ROFLMAO!!!!!

[postmandave]

GULLIBLE, MAN I HAD TO POP ON AND SAY( fuck man caps man nearly escaped there lol) any way mobay is one of the most genuine guys on this these boards the guy helped tc out from the kindness of his heart like others did on here , and im afraid to say he has it bang on here , shit man mobay sent me a 1000watt hps, cool tube and fogger and numerous seeds and other stuff ,he paid postage from the states to uk and has never asked for nothing in return, and monkey man we know you are tc looking back on these posts mobay acused you right from the start yet you didnt acknowldge to peepo that you wrer tc room mate untill the going got tuff , man whats your game and because you claim that this is you in this news footage means nothing, i am the guy that was on the news in uk , the one in the big oc case in uk now you prove i aint , anyway i only came back on to say my peice in my freinds defence, he is only trying to stop othere facing the same shit as we went through at tc hands, and monkey man why dont you just go and get your avatar and begin giving the good info that you give from tc as if your not into another scam why not just let people no who you are and if others remember the game he played with zero revolt he will be at it again if you read back the ones who are sticking up for monkey man will be other accounts he has just like the weird half breed, and what possibly could be someones motives to come on and pretend to be some one they are not, it has got to be for financial gain .when ,if , his gorilla grow gets going you can be sure that no products will be received if tc has anything to do with it as he says he shared a room with tc , were would this have been , at botany colledge, well if this is the case then he is in contact with tc at the moment , if he isnt tc him self, as tc lived with his wife and kids me and mobay no this for a fact, so he has had contact with tc lately as he knows of tc crimes , so think if you new tc and you were trying to start up new bussiness, would you come on to a cannabis site that he ripped people on and admitt this, i dont think this would be good bussiness as peepo on this site would pass the DODGY word about , so it all stinks and at the end of the day if he doesnt come out and let people knoe its him then he pressumes you all are stupid, thats all i have to say exept i know you all arent STUPID, .
PSi would have used my old avatar but my acoount has been erased along with all my post so i must say thank you to the mod who done this and i would just like to apolligies to ron and all the mods for my wild accusations, and i would like to say hello to MOBAY, BUCK , MAND ,GARDEN TURTLE, AND ALL THE REST HAPPY GROWING PEOPLE,fducking damn caps man he is always trying to escape lol. later oh yeh and that was the point of trichs avatar so people wpould remember his crimes and see the consistances with monkey man.

[graph]

You're exactly right.

graph = graph.
It's almost an honor to be described in the same way as ghosttoker. I've never felt more loved. That's not sarcasm, either. I'm serious.

[mobay]

graphtc, your still up? ok you turned off your karmaxul computer and your still here , what happened you got dizzy spinning. lets see how long you stay up today on the forums.why dont you just stop the game is over, you were supposed to be only getting this ip address and your work was done but why are you still in here defending someone who has already went to bed? and for your comment about my gut feeling,TC/KARMA/GRAPH, are 1 and alot of other people will start to have that gut feeling. you were 100% sure it, you wasnt TC your the one who brought up the DNA on him and now your not 100% sure. just drop the whole thing you stick by your dont you.


your like that little chucky doll "friends til the end"

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I actually started to think about it mobay. You were starting to convince me that karmaxul was TC, until you started saying I was him. That completely voided everything else you said. Where's your evidence disputing my evidence? Come up with some theory, any theory about how someone could pull all of that off, and I'll consider it with an open mind. Tell me that TC is CS, and tell me how he could have pulled this off, and I'll consider it. Until then, you're just bashing someone. Had it seemed to me that someone was attacking you, mobay, I would have jumped in at the chance to do something. Hell, I may have actually stepped in to kick a few asses for you. I don't care if karmaxul is TC, I am just searching for the truth. I'm not sure if I can say the same for you.

[mobay]

ok graph if you say your not TC i will believe you.

[The Grim Reefer]

LOL!

I came home and still had this thread up with only 2 pages..
I clicked "next" and BOOM!

9. effing. pages.

Mobay, I respect you man, but you still have yet to contradict all of the reasons Karma may NOT be TC.

All you keep doing is accusing.. over. and over. and over. and over.

Why don't you provide yourself and us with an explanation of how all of this can be done?

Please and thanks :D

Just for the record, I'm pretty sure he was joking about TC being his roomate.

[mobay]

ok you made your point , sorry for calling you TC and i guess i owe you 100 dollars from post # 112. what state, name and city am i sending it to. iam sending it from my bank and will have a 1 hour hold on it for you to pick it up.

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then I better act quick huh? You know I don't want the money, just put it towards the purchase of really good seeds. And think about me when you're smoking them. Don't smoke the seeds, though. That would taste disgusting and wouldnt be of any use to anyone.

[mobay]

well let me wire you the money as a gift, from me 2 u. i have more seeds than i need now.

[graph]

Then buy some cool shit. No offense but I really just don't want money. If you're sure you have enough seeds, though, we may be able to work something out. I'll keep in touch!:dance:

P.S. The smileys are only fun when you're high.

[mrabrego]

Good Morining, you guys crack me up, oh and i love every single one of you.

[Jdog7000]

All I know is Karmaxul is an arogent,big headed jerkoff.I don't know if he's TC and I don't care.They both suck ass!

[stickygreenlightsabr]

Can you really call what JAKEN does "posting"..

seems more like a computer glitch to me
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[BukDatAss]

LOL Oh man, so In others words to me by "mono man" admitting that Tc was his roommate tells me that is him. He prob has to much pride to come out and say its him.. Well cased closed for me as for graf dont know dont care but

DONT BUY ANYTHING OFF ANYONE UNLESS A FEW "GOOD" PEOPLE CAN VOUCH FOR IT.

[Garden Knowm]

KARMA...

sir..
questions...

Do you know TC, was he your roomate...?

Do you like the milskakes kes at McDonalds?

: )

[karmaxul]

Dont know who tc is never read a post of his and did not share a room with him or his wife or kids

Mobay if I modivate to the gas station and get a news paper with todays date on it will that set your mind at ease

Gnome I prefer the frosties at wendy's

[karmaxul]

And as far as my aviator, I drew it, it is the same as you will see in my ad in High Times, the same as is tattooed on my back, here is the original drawing. What are your thoughts on that Mobay as the site is registered to CS the aviator is the same as in the ad and I have the original drawing. Further more if you got this cats number why dont you give his ass a call

[JunkYard]

I'll buy your Gorilla Grow, Karma. I believe you are a genuine person. Although, I'll have to wait until I get some money, and until you make it available for people like me./shrug

As far as you being TC, I don't think that you are...I don't know why? It's just MY 'gut' feeling, I guess.

Mobay, I understand your concerns, and respect you for standing up, and doing something about it. I just don't think you're right on this one, bro...

Karma is Mr. Gorilla grow, and doesn't even know TC!

That's my verdict! ;)

Peace,

[Garden Knowm]

LOVE

lets PLAY FRISBEE!!!!

i love you

[mobay]

ok karmaxul you say your not TC, i guess i was wrong then. so where do you want me to wire your 100 dollars to ? the form at western union says that i need the receivers name , city code and phone #. i will stick to my word. the bank closes in 30 mins.

[karmaxul]

Thanks Junkyard, I still have yet to understand this hole trial thing, but owell.

Check this fogger system out....599 will get you the fogger and all the table acessaries to run two 4 by 8 tables with 48 sites each.

Mobay can you add anything to the using foggers?

http://www.nutramist.com/retrofit.html

[mobay]

what i had was , fogger , drip feed, pump and a airstone in mine. i used the feeding chart for hydro and always the higher ppm for my feed. like if it said 1100-1400 i went for 1400.

[karmaxul]

Ya I saw your set up. I will have to look back but I remember reading 125ppm in your post somewhere. What fogger are you using

[Garden Knowm]

karma.. I have been to the nutramist shop in NY.. the place is awesome.. that system is the real deal!!!!!!!

[karmaxul]

No never been there just called the dude today. I would love to take a trip there after the fert business picks up a bit. When were you out there?

[mobay]

yeah 125ppm was my tap water i started out with for 2 weeks and followed the chart after that

[turtle420]

Thanks Junkyard, I still have yet to understand this hole trial thing, but owell.

Check this fogger system out....599 will get you the fogger and all the table acessaries to run two 4 by 8 tables with 48 sites each.

Mobay can you add anything to the using foggers?

http://www.nutramist.com/retrofit.html
I think I'm gonna cry... :(

Two reasons:
1st - I'm happy that everyone is starting to get along better.
2nd - You're talking about the NutraMist... many failed attempts I've had with it.

Karmaxul, do you have any input on it?

I've got one of their units... but when I used it, it was failure after failure, followed by a couple of more failures. Failures on my part, not the unit's.

Anybody care to give some input?

If you're all willing, I can post some of my 3.64trillion questions about fogging. Maybe we can get it up and running...

Let me know...

Either that, or we can play some frisbee with gK.

Take it easy,

-turtle420 :cool:
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[Garden Knowm]

Turtle I am sorry to hear that
And I am bummed that I did not follow your grow more closely to know that is what happened..

can you give me a brief synopsis of what went wrong..

was it stem wrought?

: )

[karmaxul]

I dont have any input. I just learned about foggers today while reading Mobays picturess grow journal. I then found those on the net and called the place up. I would love to help you reseach any of your question Turtle, what you got.

[turtle420]

Hey gK, Karm,

Here, this is a good re-cap of my fogging troubles... post #550
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=34726&page=22

Here it is, quoted:

What up Buk?! :)

Don't know 'bout the seeds homes... :confused: But the strain sounds good... :thumbsup: :dance:

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Update:

I re-LSTed heavy dutily the mothers... don't want them touching the bulbs... I cut off 8 very good, long, bushy, secondary growths... gonna make some clones!

I took a 5 gallong bucket, placed an air stone at the bottom, filled it almost to the top with GH clones mix, and CalMag PLUS.

I placed a lid (from a square plastic "shoe box") on top... drilled 8 holes, placed the clones... taped them down (yeah, tape), used some paper clips for support... (note::: in the picture, the paper clips aren't present... I added them later... and I didn't take a picture... becuase I ain't Master Splinter...)

Placed a 9W (40W) CFL on top of them ('bout 12 inches).

The lights are on 18/6... the new 300CFM fart fan gets ON for 5 minutes, every 55 minutes.

Um.... target success rate this time around: 100%

Past success rates:
v1.0 = -30% (burned to a crisp)
v2.0 = 0% (died quickly)
v3.0 = 10% (life support for 13 days was it?)
v4.0 = 40% (kept alive with fog, for aprox 10 days... some rooted... most perished)

v5.0 = ??? 100% ??? let's see in 7 days.

If they all root, I'm placing 4 in the fog root chamber (yet to be improved upon... crap). The other 4 I'd be placing in.... SOIL!!! :D

Making new mother plants... more, um, manegable. :dance:

Wish for all of you the best... I don't know if I'll have time to re-log in before I go, but if I come across an internet cafe, I'll definitely check the boards. I won't post... but I'll read if there's anything... (so c'mon Buk, pPuff, Skilz, Gen, gK, and all turtle-friends... :) )

Peace out, and please sen good vibes over to the clones... :)

Best wishes,

-turtle420 :cool:
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I think that my main problem has been the big Sterilite tub as a root chamber.

My new thoughts (if I give up the 5gallon buckets DWC) is to have two 5gallon buckets, on plant each, and have those buckets as the root chamber.

Before, I had the NutraMist placed OUTSIDE my cabinet... so, my 300CFM exhaust fan, pulled the fog right out of the "fog chamber" (Sterilite tub). So my roots got dry.

I'm thinking that I can go around that by using the two 5gallon buckets... because then there'll be more space inside the cabinet, and I can then place the NutraMist unit INSIDE the cabinet. That way, the 300CFM exhaust fan will create a vacuum inside the cab, but it won't pull the fog out so fast.

This making any sense???

SECOND idea set:
I don't know what to do with the fog ON/OFF cycle. I cannot have the NutraMist unit running constantly ON because it's TOO MUCH fog... simply too much. Fog everywhere... then it would condensate into water... on EVERY surface... fans, walls, inside, outside, floor, boxes, shoes, articles of clothing... etc.

So, because of this, I'm trying to run the fog in ON cycles of a couple of minutes (1-3) every 10 minutes.

My last timer schedule was 3minON/7minOFF.

What do you guys think?

I know it's a long-ass post... but, what the hell... either this or a discussion about Dungeons and Dragons.

Thanks guys, peace and good vibes to all,

-turtle420 :cool:
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[karmaxul]

Turtle are you saying that the fog is coming up from the net cups or you are fogging the air. I am a bit lost. Have you run the unit for budding or just tryed cloneing with it?

[Garden Knowm]

yes, the systems I have seen the fog comes up from the cups... Turtle.. you need to figure out away you can leave it on all the time without the fog turning your room into a freaking rain forest..

LOL

well, it sounds like you know what happened.. you roots dryed out..
correct?


: )

[karmaxul]

What if you mixed shag moss or something in with the grow rocks?

[mobay]

this is the fogger i used in my res, turtle420, the fogger sat in a floatable cup.

[postmandave]

would any one like to explain the foggers job for us uneducated ones lol,mobay?.

[turtle420]

Turtle are you saying that the fog is coming up from the net cups or you are fogging the air. I am a bit lost. Have you run the unit for budding or just tryed cloneing with it?
Sorry... didn't explain correctly. Yeah, I'm using the fog for the roots. No hydro systems (DWC, NFT, Ebb&Flow), only fog. So far, I've only run the unit for cloning... but, after that, they die on me because of the exhaust fan being turned ON.


yes, the systems I have seen the fog comes up from the cups... Turtle.. you need to figure out away you can leave it on all the time without the fog turning your room into a freaking rain forest..

LOL

well, it sounds like you know what happened.. you roots dryed out..
correct?


: )
LOL!!!

Rain forrest... that's the best way to describe it gK! I turn my room into a dampy, foggy rain forrest.

Leaving it ON all the time? Hmmm... darn it... the other thing is the water consumption... I'll post the numbers later today, but the water consumption of the unit would have had me filling it up every 3 days... ??? Wow!


What if you mixed shag moss or something in with the grow rocks?
I dunno... let's try it... :)


this is the fogger i used in my res, turtle420, the fogger sat in a floatable cup.
Thanks Mobay... question: That was a "dual" hydro system, right? It was the fogger, and... DWC?


would any one like to explain the foggers job for us uneducated ones lol,mobay?.
lol Dave... :)

Foggers create a very fine particle (4, 5 microns???) which is able to float in the air. So, intead of the typical hydro setups, you "fog" your solution, and you have your roots soak in the foggy air/solution thing.

There's supposedly a couple of benefits to using foggers... but, if I don't get my plants to live, I won't be able to know... lol !!!

Thanks for the inputs guys!!! :)

Have a GREAT day!!!,

-turtle420 :cool:
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Sorry, I'm about to be really lazy. When you get the time, can you post the benefits? Any of you?

[mobay]

The ultrasonic fogger turns your water and your nutrients in 15-20 micron water droplets that are rapidly absorbed through the roots. The smaller water/nutrient particles also allow for better oxygen exchange for the root structure. This item alone can increase root structure by up to 40%!!

Simply add your nutrients to the 66qt. nutrient reservoir and watch your plants grow and an UNBELIEVABLY fast rate

[mobay]

on my next hydro grow this will be the next addition to the grow box


CO2 BOOST generates large amounts of Co2 from a combination of all-natural ingredients contained within the bucket. Simply plug in your Co2Boost pump and the Co2 from the bucket is delivered directly to your plants.

Increase yields anywhere from 50-100 percent
Provide shorter growing periods
Improve floral quality and health
Allows plants to be grown better in higher temperatures (93-99F)
Provide you with an all-natural, affordable alternative of Co2 production
Lasts for 60-90 days, before needing a refill

Item Name: CO2 BOOST INJECTION SYSTEM
Item Number: CO2-1
Price: $125