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britewire
03-01-2006, 07:36 PM
I just started out again with 12 PP in my cabinette. I´ll make my choice of 6 of them that I´ll bloom.

I won´t give them any nutrient during VEG with the exception of root nutrient and mycorhizza fungi. They´re in VEG for 3 days now. I´ll have a 2 week VEG.

britewire
03-01-2006, 07:43 PM
These are my EC and PH meters..

I´l leave the PH during the entire VEG on 6.0 and the entire BLOOM on 5.6. In the VEG i won´t measure the EC, just in the BLOOM fase. I´ll keep it on 1.9 untill the 9th week blooming. after the 9th week I´ll drop down the EC too 0.9 for the taste.

I also add Mycorhizza fungi too the soil before planting them in the big pots, that give the fungi the chance to grow. It helps the plants a lot.

britewire
03-02-2006, 09:38 PM
These are the pots I´m gonna put them in. I already made my choice about witch plants I´m gonna grow thru the entire cycle. Maybe you got an idea witch 6 plants I chose. It was pretty obviouse for me, staight from the beginning.

Tomorrow I´m gonna put them in the larger pots.. I´ll make pics

britewire
03-03-2006, 07:11 PM
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britewire
03-04-2006, 09:47 AM
The above text was copy paste from the website of advanced nutients. I love that stuff, ever since I used it my yields got bigger and plants got stronger.

Just wanted to give you an update of day 6. Planning was to place the plants in other pots, but I decided to wait untill I´m sure about the Mycorhizza colony is up to size in the bigger pots. I think i´ll do the switcheroo tuesday...

Be free to give any comments or critisism

britewire
03-04-2006, 09:49 AM
Oh yeah.. These are the 6 @ day 6, I chose to go furter with, the rest i chucked away.

britewire
03-06-2006, 10:00 AM
They look pretty healthy execpt for the purple stems because of the temperature problem I can´t solve. I have my cabinette in the attic and it get cold there when the lights are off. The temperature differance in day and night time is too big, and I can´t place heating up there because of shitty isolation of the attic. Oh well, I´ll think of something... idea´s are always welcome.

Looks good huh those 7 vinger leaves..?!

I use a mixture of rootstimulator and enzymes now cause there are still enough nutrients in the soil for another 2 weeks or so. I think I´ll start with the additional nutrients next saturday.

EC is 0.9 and PH is 5.8

JohnnyPotGrower
03-06-2006, 05:50 PM
A couple questions...

What type of light are you using (for veg).

Why the decision to veg for only 2 weeks?

I have never seen so many nodes in 3 days, do you think it is the rooting enzyme that is responsible for that?

Otherwise, I think they look great... how tall are they?

JPG

britewire
03-06-2006, 07:17 PM
I use my 2 600W HPS light for veg as for blossoming.

I decided for a 2 to 3 week veg because they'll grow a lot more in the pre-blossoming fase with that amount of power.

I added some CO² tablets too the water for additional nodes, my objective is a not too tall, wide and strong plant.

They're not that tall yet, they're about 25 cm now. Next watering I'm giving them water from the bottom of the pot. The roots have grown enough for that now.

Untill now I've done one thing wrong. I set the plants on a high nutrient soilwhen they were small, so the plants are a little light green and recouperating now.

JohnnyPotGrower
03-07-2006, 02:19 AM
25cm, that is nearly 11 inches in 8 days.
More than an inch per day.

That is astonishing growth for little seedlings barely a week old.
Are these clones?

britewire
03-07-2006, 10:17 AM
Yeah, these are cuttings from a motherplant I grew from seed... what did you think, from seed too 11 inches in 8 days, I wish ;)

All the way in the top of the thread is a pic of a plant 3 days old, they´ve grown a lot in 5 days.

JohnnyPotGrower
03-07-2006, 03:14 PM
yeah,

generally when you are growing clones you dont say they are "3 days old", because in reality they arent 3 days old. They are the age of the mother plant you took them from, not the number of days since you have cut or planted them. Its just very misleading. Also you if you are doing a grow log you should probably state that they are clones because it isnt so obvious sometimes.

That also explains why you are only vegging them for 2-3weeks, they have probably already been vegging for at least that long on the motherplant.

Nonetheless they look very good and very healthy. I veg with HPS too and I love seeing their growth explode when you switch them to 12/12... that red spectrum light kicks in and the plants go crazy. Goodluck and keep us all posted.

JPG

britewire
03-07-2006, 03:28 PM
Yeah your maybe right about that. Its very obvious here, cause everybody grows with clones here because of the legalisation.

britewire
03-08-2006, 12:42 PM
10 days

britewire
03-09-2006, 10:03 PM
Next saturday I'm gonna set the timers at 12/12 and build it up too 13.5/10.5 thoughout the blooming. I'm at work right now and I can't wait to get home too look at my ladies. They're really exploding in size the last couple of days, every day is another suprize. They're still growing on nothing but soil, that's because the mycorhizza fungi I used grows best in low nutrient soil and takes all the nutrients out of that soil.

The plant in the far left corner is a bit slow but I'm absolutly not worried about it cause she looks awsome.

I started giving water from the bottom of the pot. They sucked it all up in about 45 minutes. That's fucking incredible for those small baby's don't you think?

Blossoming is the next step and I'm really gonna push these baby's to the limit. The temperature differance problem is slightly less now cause it's getting warmer outside and in the attic aswell.

I put some soil in PH6.0 water and left it in the fridge. Tomorrow I'll filter it through a coffy filter and measure again to determine the PH of the soil and if it needs altering or not.

I'll keep you guys updated with text and pics.

britewire
03-11-2006, 01:40 PM
I tried this system out again because I´m too lazy to give them water every day. It´s a simple pump with a one way valve and a PE hose connected to little pe hoses with drippers on the end. Timer on the pump and aquarium heater in the water reservoir and you´re ready to go.

britewire
03-12-2006, 06:07 PM
14 days

FERMENTATION
03-16-2006, 12:21 PM
britewire, nice looking plants man. I am looking into the PP for later this year. Question (a few actually,) does the bottle of Pirahna list the specific fungi and other organisms? If so, would you please list them? I would like to compare it to another product before I buy buy it. Btw, how much did you pay for your Advanced Nutrients products?

Fermentnation :dance:

britewire
03-16-2006, 05:35 PM
Here you go... a lot more info than on the website...

i´ve payed 39 euro´s for it.. but it´s 40 USD at that website


http://progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=1106

britewire
03-17-2006, 09:49 AM
Just to clearify I made a small list of what I used to build this cabinette and witch products I use for ferilisation.

Hardware:

1 KETER cabinet
2 600W SON TE+ philips HPS lights (95.000 Lumen each)
2 Cooltube armatures with mirrors.
1 160m³/h carbon filter
1 150m³/h air circulation pump (connected to the carbon filter)
1 100m³/h fresh air intake
1 Waterpump connected to a PE hose with little tubes attached for the drippers.
3 Timers (1 for lights, 1 for Air intake and 1 for the pump (dripper system)
6 20 liter pots
3 water collection bins for under the pots

Nutrients and stuff:

5 liters Canna terraflores
1 liter pk13/14
1 liter Canna Enzymes
1 liter PH minus (Phosforic adic)
1 liter PH+
500 grams of Advanced Nutrients PIRANHA beneficial fungi (Mycorhizza)
100 Liters of PLAGRON soil
20 liters of PLAGRON LIGHT soil
1 Liter of vitamine B and Folium acid (root stimulator)
1 Liter Advanced Nutrients VOODOO JUICE (bacterial mix)

britewire
03-18-2006, 12:06 PM
They´re a bit slow cause of the cold weather outside I can´t warm up the room they´re growing in at night.

britewire
03-19-2006, 12:25 AM
Going good... got my temps in order and they´re really responding to the stability f temperature now.

britewire
03-21-2006, 09:14 AM
14 days veg, 10 days bloom

busteruk7
03-21-2006, 02:59 PM
very nice britewire and thats a nice setup too
good luck m8 :)

britewire
03-21-2006, 03:16 PM
Thanks alot, I´ve been waiting for some reply´s. If anybody has some questions about growing on soil or hydro just go ahead. I´m eagre to answer them.


Below some Powerplant x White Widdow I grew using this methode (only a bit lower EC values), I harvested about 0.9 grams per Watt with those plants.

BlueDragonSmoke
03-21-2006, 03:48 PM
ok i have a Q I have been growing under 6 , 4 foot flo tubes my plants r a foot tall and I got a deal on a 400 w mh fixture and bulb , couldnt pass it up , I know a HPS is the BEST for flowering but I CAN NOT afford one with in the next 3 weeks... will they still bud under the MH til I get a Conversion bulb for HPS ?

busteruk7
03-21-2006, 04:49 PM
:D :rasta: :)
ok i have a Q I have been growing under 6 , 4 foot flo tubes my plants r a foot tall and I got a deal on a 400 w mh fixture and bulb , couldnt pass it up , I know a HPS is the BEST for flowering but I CAN NOT afford one with in the next 3 weeks... will they still bud under the MH til I get a Conversion bulb for HPS ?
if you change ya light cycle to 12/12 the plant will start flowering no matter what light ya have it under but a red spectrum bulb is best as it produces better results and better bud
personly it will only be for 3 weeks untill ya get a red spectrum bulb so i cant see any probs
cheers hope this helps
good luck m8 :) :D :)

britewire
03-21-2006, 05:48 PM
The flowering process will go a bit slower with less red spectrum in the light so you gotta be very carefull you don't have any light leaking into your room during the dark period. An thing to look out for aswell while having a difficult time flowering (12/12), is that your temps aren't too low when the lights are off for 12 hours. That can slow down the process of making homones for blossoming severely.

britewire
03-25-2006, 02:06 AM
They´re really taking off now. I think I see some flowers coming.

britewire
03-26-2006, 08:26 PM
finally blossom.

scorpionidae
03-26-2006, 11:29 PM
I think you are just wasting energy, by using 1200 watts for only six plants.
Bud any way, it looks good.

UMrocksmysocks
03-27-2006, 01:42 AM
woww, looks like you for suer got ur shit down :) ill be watching

maybe a good question wil pop into my head to.. who knows,,, :rasta:

UMrocksmysocks
03-27-2006, 01:46 AM
oh ya i got one... what are the demensions of that room you're growing in

britewire
03-27-2006, 06:33 AM
oh ya i got one... what are the demensions of that room you're growing in

Dimentions of the room are 2.2m high, 1.6m wide and 1.10m deep.


I think you are just wasting energy, by using 1200 watts for only six plants

Well, I have better results with 6 plants under 1200w compared to 24 plants under 1200w. I get about 0.8 gramms per watt on 24 plants and about 0.9 gramms per watt on 6 plants. I think it's because the plant has more room and it's more natural.

britewire
04-01-2006, 07:54 PM
This week I´m smuggling 15 minutes extra every time I water (every three days.)

Look at the ladies, they look absolutly fine on a EC of 2.2. This week I´m building to a EC of 2.4.

britewire
04-02-2006, 10:39 AM
feedback please?

britewire
04-08-2006, 12:18 PM
Going good.. I think I'll get more than 600 grams this time.

NewYorkDiesel
04-08-2006, 12:36 PM
nice job,.. i like the cool tube lites too.
:)
Cali

smoke me smoke me
04-13-2006, 07:18 PM
damn those babies are looking awsome. I cant wait to see what your nuggets look like when they get chopped. seeing work like this inspires since im trying my first grow.

britewire
04-15-2006, 05:14 PM
New pics..

35 days flowering now with some small leaf problems. The PH buffer is gone so I added some chalk to the soil. The soils ph was 5.3 and gone up too 6.3 again.. so that's okay again.

JohnnyCutCorners
04-15-2006, 05:16 PM
Good to see brite.

What kind of strain did you grow last time and how much did you yield?

busteruk7
04-15-2006, 07:48 PM
very nice britewire they are coming on very nicely indeed :)

britewire
04-16-2006, 10:51 AM
Before this grow I had NorthernLightX in there.. they did a lot better than these cause it's a longer plant. I needed 3 weeks veg on these instead of 2.

oh well, I think I'll harvest more that 700grams on these.

Jdog7000
04-16-2006, 11:44 AM
I like that set up...
Is that a carbon scrubber that pulls threw the lights and out the roof?
I think I'll try that. I was going to buy 2 blowers but I guess I just need one strong one. Cool!

britewire
04-16-2006, 12:26 PM
yeah.. works like a charm

ginoberde
04-16-2006, 02:06 PM
Nice setup man!
I hope they smoke as good as they look, I grow in soil right now, and I thought that soil would not give that good yield inside...from what I see here I am very wrong.
Keep up the good work man.
My main problem with goin inside is getting supplies.
Where I live most growshops in the states do not send stuff, so I order from a growshop in Breda, Holland they deliver, but shipping is a bitch!
Also takes veeerryyy looonngg (3 to 4 weeks)
Anyways nice man...

britewire
04-17-2006, 08:45 AM
A lot of people think that hydro is a bigger producer, but it's about the same ime. If you need a better oversea's shipper you should try Leafman trading.

Another 3 weeks or so and they'll be ready for the barber... :)

britewire
04-17-2006, 06:32 PM
Going good.. can't wait till the ph problem is solved. Further yellowing of the leaves is definatly stopped.. now I'm just trying to find a good EC value to proceed the grow with, I think i'll try a EC of 1.7ish

postmandave
04-18-2006, 07:31 PM
Got to say britewire.Exellent set up and grow mate .Top class man cant wait to see you yeild weight dont know how i havent noticed this thread man your grow has been top class.The Postman.

britewire
04-18-2006, 07:35 PM
It's not over yet.. I'v got another 3 weeks to go.. so I hope they get a bit bigger than this or else I'm not hitting my target

MegaOctane12
04-18-2006, 08:44 PM
First of all I just wana say great looking plants man, they look like the result of alot of hard work and effort so I hope they as good as you hope.


Also you've kind of solved alot of headache for me too because I was planning for along time on sucking air out through the lights/top of the roof into the carbon filter.Very inefficient now I see your setup. Having the carbon sucked out directly into the growing environment to neutralise instead of having the environment sucked into the carbon filter makes much more sense.

Also I got a few questions regarding your equiptment. I recently bought that exact fan and its causing alot of problems for me. Its noisy as fuck basically, how do you tackle that problem? The ducting dosen't even look insulated, so the airflow must be noisy, also, isn't it dangerous to have it hanging at a 90 degree angle? And also if your taking the carbon through the lights and out of the room, how does the stale air in the room actually room get removed? Sorry for the noob questions.

britewire
04-18-2006, 09:42 PM
The fan on the right side of the filter sucks the air in the cabinet thru the carbonfilter(after that it's odorless air), thru the cooltubes (for cooling) out the cabinet by a hole in the roof.

Having the fan under a 90 degree angel isn't an extra ware on your equipment.

You can always use isolated tubes for sucking the air thru. cause of the constant cooling of the lamps that's no fire risk at all. Those hoses are padded on the inside.

I'm basicly sucking fresh air into the cabinet by a computerfan on the rightside of the cabinet (not in a pic). Be carefull that the fresh air fan that you use to suck fresh air into the cabinet is a tad bit weaker than the fan on the carbonfilter. that's because you always want under-pressure in your cabinet so you can be assured no smell is going out in another place than your carbon filter.

greetz britewire

MegaOctane12
04-18-2006, 10:18 PM
So does this eliminate the air flow noise almost completely. If you slept 10 yards from your grow space would you hear a noticable huming? Just trying to get a more accurate idea of how noisy it is. From the space i'm judging that's a 100mm fan, right? Also why do you have the intake fan (pc fan) at the top of the room and not on the plants (plant stems), what benefit does it serve in the top part of the grow box? One last question, you said the air is taken in through the carbon filter, would that be in the left side, so there's a hole in both ends of the tube?

britewire
04-19-2006, 09:37 AM
Yes you would hear a humming but you'd have to really listen fot that sound. If there's a wall inbetween you and the cabinette you wouldn't hear a thing, I'm sure.

The intake fan doesn't blow forward, it blows the air radialy. Than the cold air drops down to the bottom where it's heated and speaded by a keramic heating fan.

No there are holes in the side of the filter you're viewing in the pics, you don't notice them because there's a layer of filtration cloth over it. the sides are closed (except for the side where the fan is connected to)

highweedskunk
04-19-2006, 09:07 PM
nice grow BRITEWIRE i love your plants how old r they?
in other words how many days in flowering?

britewire
04-20-2006, 10:10 AM
They're 40 days into flowering now and they had a 2 week veg.

britewire
04-22-2006, 09:49 AM
Lookin good.. another week and I'll stop giving nutrients

MegaOctane12
04-23-2006, 04:37 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. Those brackets supporting the filter, did you pick those up or were they just lying around? That looks more appealing to me than hanging the filter with hooks and chain. Nice plants by the way I can only hope for similar.

britewire
04-23-2006, 06:53 PM
YOu should hope for more cause I'm sure I'm totaly missing my target.

Those brackets are for hanging your watergutter to the roof. They fit very well and they are surtanly heavy enough to hold a carbon filter with filter.

britewire
04-26-2006, 09:51 AM
I found some new pistils on the buds, so it looks like the plants are gonna give it one more try on upping the stakes

LIP
04-26-2006, 11:13 AM
Cool, looks very nice

britewire
04-28-2006, 12:44 PM
Stopped giving nutrients today.. about 50% of the hairs on the buds are brown. I'll give It about 2 weeks untill they're ready (i think)

SpiritLevel
04-28-2006, 04:53 PM
This is an interesting thread. Those pics of PPP are giving me a marijuana apetite. :rasta: They are excellent.:thumbsup:

I too am involoved in a Power Plant crop at the moment. It will be ready around a fortnight after yours britewire.:dance:

I am a fan of the shorter plants because the main colons seem to be very thick with flat tops.:D

I am keen to here what your dry weight will be from 6 pots and 1200W.

I am associated with a grow consisting of the same 1200W (2x 600W) of HPS light but in just 10L pots. There are a total of 13 Plants under the canopy of 2 hoods. There is also a 600W adjacent, lighting a tray of 32 cheese cuttings, so I suppose you could say there is 1800W of light in the room.

Two weeks remain on the ones pictured below.

I wonder if double the soil can make a significant difference? Keep us informed!!!!

britewire
04-28-2006, 04:55 PM
Lemme guess... those are from seeds, right?

SpiritLevel
04-28-2006, 05:01 PM
Would they be 2nd generation?

The previous crop was from seed.

Two cutings were taken from the previous 'seed' crop and kept as mothers.

Those in the picture then are from mothers that were made from cutting from seeded plants.

britewire
04-28-2006, 05:20 PM
The buds...

JIKES!

SpiritLevel
04-28-2006, 05:24 PM
Dense and Frosty..

Are they firm to squeeze?

britewire
04-28-2006, 05:30 PM
they're very firm

elcheapo
04-29-2006, 12:32 AM
Stop squeezing her goodies. Otherwise she will slap you in the face with a fan leaf. :)

britewire
04-29-2006, 08:57 AM
I hope she slaps me hard when I light and smoke the first.

SpiritLevel
04-29-2006, 12:31 PM
I'd say, keep on feeling the ladies up.

If they didn't like it they wouldn't look so appealing and smell so dang good. Unless they are the 'dumb bitchass' variety of PPP??

britewire
04-29-2006, 12:34 PM
I don't like to feel the buds too much, cause it disturbes and fades away the cristals on the buds. But whatever, sometimes I just can't help myself.

SpiritLevel
04-29-2006, 12:42 PM
Contaminating the crop is my only worry, but i love to give em a light squeeze then rub my fingers together.... Sticky and stinky, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

You say you stop feeding with nutes now, do that mean you only supplying ph 'd water? &

How long did you use PK13/14 for?

britewire
04-29-2006, 01:39 PM
Yeah, just PH 6.2 water for the next week. When you keep feeding the plants till harvest you'll get a very sharp taste too the weed. I start using PK-13-14 when the plant was in full bloom. First visable bloom is at about 1.5 weeks 12/12 and when It's really gulping up the Phosfors and Caliums is in the fourth week. It's a matter of experiance when too start with it. Normally it's in about the fourth week of bloom.

UMrocksmysocks
04-29-2006, 04:27 PM
good advice man, and nice lookin grow :) :rasta::stoned:

SpiritLevel
04-30-2006, 12:26 PM
I got soo many questions about this strain....

If you chose to grow ppp in 10L pots using the same methods, what % reduction in your yield would you expect? We expect around 1.5oz per plant on average (with still some time left i can see this figure being slightly higher).

On the subject of pots, is it wise to grow plants over 1m tall in 10L pots? Am I compromising the bloom by having tallish plants in relatively low volume pots?

How do you know when your plant has drank enough? At the moment our ppp each get flooded with 1L nutrient mix per day, top fed. But some pots are much much dryer than others the next day. There is very little in the way of run-off. Should the watering method be changed in accordance with readings off the soil moisture meter 'or' something else?

We ultimately want to maximise yield without compromising quality and work with strains that grow similar to power plant with regard to sturdiness and overall resiliance.

britewire
04-30-2006, 12:52 PM
Well, I think you need about 3 weeks veg from clone height. I couldn't say howmany you would yield, mostly it's about your climate controle and the amount of lumens you use. PPP is a fairly low plant, so you would be okay with a 3 week veg from cloneheight (they wouldn't get too high.) When you give the plant water try too give it an amount for 3 days. That means, after 3 days you should be able to stick your finger in the soil without it feeling wet or damp. When flowering I would recommend giving water from below, that way the plant takes what it needs and nothing less. It should have drank the amount of water under the pots in about 1.5 hours.

britewire
04-30-2006, 02:43 PM
Here's a test bud I cut off.

The Grim Reefer
04-30-2006, 04:24 PM
omg. I'm so jealous britewire! That's going to be such a tasty smoke.

hopefully I get to growing nuggets like that someday.

very nice.

UMrocksmysocks
04-30-2006, 05:36 PM
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

:thumbsup:

Jdog7000
04-30-2006, 09:22 PM
Nice bro. Looks real good.

busteruk7
04-30-2006, 11:51 PM
Here's a test bud I cut off.
nice that test bud looks sweetttttttttttttttt
cut me one off lol
cheers all :)

britewire
05-01-2006, 07:01 AM
I'd rather not ship too America :D

britewire
05-01-2006, 11:58 AM
I went for a look at the ladies this morning and found out that they've started an second internode flowering on the buds. This is something I really didn't expected cause of the slight PH problems in the soil. So tonight when watering the plants I'll add some more nutrients too them with an EC of 1.5.

I'll post some pictures tonight.

SpiritLevel
05-01-2006, 12:42 PM
Yer, good info yet again...

I will employ the technique of submerging the pots into a reservoir with the right volme which will contain the nutrient mix and pH balanced water and try and see where i can improve productivity. I don't know anything about watering from below but I will try it and see how these ladies respond to it.

It looks like i should completely saturate the soil then leave it for 3 days, i hope i am reading your post right. Then on the 3rd day do a soil test and see how well the soil has drained. I will wet them up and use a soil moisture meter to measure their drinking rate, kind of thing.

That nug looks really sticky, I got some just like it lol...

The last PPP crop we grew didn't want to stop growing. All the way to the final day it was still growing with noticible signs on a daily basis. look forward to viewing the pics

britewire
05-01-2006, 12:59 PM
When giving water from below you have too fill the reservoir with about an inch of water. they've to be able too take up the water in 1.5 hours. When giving water from above you don't have to completly saturate the soil, just give enough for 3 days, stick your vinger in the soil and if it's completely dry in 3 days you gave enough water. If it's still wet give less water, you don't want root rot just because you gave too much.

If you have a moisture meter try too give water untill you reach 80%.

Yeah, the buds are coming along fairly nice. It's not gonna be the yield I expected though. Aslong as the quality is good I'm satisfied. After this I'm going back too scrogging because of the better yields.

britewire
05-02-2006, 06:52 AM
update

britewire
05-04-2006, 07:58 AM
I stoppped feeding the plant now for a couple of days. They yellowing of the leaves go in a very rapid tempo, cause of the lack of nutrients in teh soil and water.

Jdog7000
05-04-2006, 08:28 AM
Those look great. What a great yield on those girls.
Budsites everywhere.

britewire
05-04-2006, 01:57 PM
Yields like this are relativly easy too get. Just get your climate in order, use GOOD soil (plagron soil mixtures), use decent lighting (HPS) and a good nutrient mix specially developed for cannabis plants (I use canna or Plagron). o yeah and one more...

don't fuck around too much with all kinds of additives that should do wonders too your plants. In the end there are only a few additives that really garantee a bigger yeild. And those are:

Mycorhizza fungi spores (symbiot) i.e AN pirahna
Bacterial mix (symbiot and bac culture) i.e. AN Voodoo Juice
PK-13/14
Enzymes
CO²

What lots of people don't understand is that when you don't have a decent basic setup (climate, lights an stuff) you can use all the additives in the world but you'll never have a good yield.

britewire
05-04-2006, 02:14 PM
Forgot too add this..

When I cut them on sunday they had 2 weeks of VEG and 8 weeks of bloom (From clone that is)

Not terrible.. but I've had way better.

The mistake I made was Vegging a week too short. I thought that they would have a bit more grow in them length wise.

mobay
05-04-2006, 02:19 PM
you did a good job, very good job. shit i only vegged for a week on my white russian.

britewire
05-04-2006, 02:21 PM
I'm not really satisfied with the predited yield. like I said.. I did better

mobay
05-04-2006, 02:28 PM
yes i can feel ya on that one, but we do learn from our mistakes. i vegged my big bud for 4 weeks and she was over 6ft tall, bent.

britewire
05-04-2006, 02:32 PM
I've had that aswell on a NLX grow. I Vegged them for 2 weeks and they were over a meter tall. It's not that big a problem on soil but In hydro setup I've got the nutrient/water mix underneath the hydro trays. has too bent them aswell

britewire
05-04-2006, 02:41 PM
Here's the pic..

underneath the hydro trays there is a large rectangal bucket that fits underneath with the nutriets/water mix in there. I used a pump too give 3 dripping sessions of 5 minutes per 24 hours. Worked like a charm and gave good yields. Only thing is, I like soil mroe because of the experimenting with bacteria and what nature provides.

mobay
05-04-2006, 03:10 PM
thats a nice set up there. i myself am starting to like soil growing, because of all the water being lifted to the attic. 10 gallons a week was getting a bit tiring

britewire
05-04-2006, 03:17 PM
I know...

Belieeeeve me, I KNOW!

SpiritLevel
05-04-2006, 03:33 PM
Very good yeild! I am soon to follow suit.

Another 10days or so and the power plant will be disassembled. will post some pics 2m.

Has been a great strain to work with and will do so again. In fact 14 cuttings have already been put to veg to land straight in the shadow of their forebarers.

Post some curing pics to 'B'?

britewire
05-05-2006, 05:36 PM
Another nice budshot 2 days before harvest

SpiritLevel
05-06-2006, 11:33 AM
is the leaf discoloration normal?

britewire
05-06-2006, 03:01 PM
When I stopped feeding, the yellowing of the leaves went really fast cause of the lack of nutrients.

postmandave
05-06-2006, 05:43 PM
wicked gro britewire.very imformative bro i really enjoyed reading this thread.top job.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: The Postman.

MegaOctane12
05-08-2006, 07:58 PM
Was wondering what the heat is like in your room without the fan on. Do you run it full power the whole photoperiod? The reason I ask is because air cooled seems are a great idea but when the fans off how hot do the bulbs/apparatus e.t.c e.t.c get. Is it a neccesity to have air cooled systems cooled.

britewire
05-09-2006, 06:32 AM
Yeah sure... else the bulbs would get too got inside that glass tube. But why would I want too shut te fan off?

PS. it's not sucking air from outside (thru the tubes) in, but the other way around.

MegaOctane12
05-09-2006, 01:12 PM
I know your extracting out the closet not in. I asked because say for example you couldn't use a fan for whatever reason but you still wanted to grow with the same lights. If your saying the that the fan is crucial to the setup for cool tubes then that's worth noting for future reference.

britewire
05-09-2006, 02:02 PM
It wouldn't be possible too use the lights without airflow in it because of the isolation value of the tubes in a static condition. But the fittings are re-useable, when removing the glass tubes you can fit an hood too the fittings.

SpiritLevel
05-14-2006, 10:19 AM
I too have drawn the ppp grow to an end. It was a little premature, but the person with more share-status in the venture decided that some funds should be released from the crop to support the next yeild.

We have struggled to get just 25oz off of 13 power plants. Some plants (about 3 or 4) were herms bearing seed on some of the lower branches. There is about 2-3oz of seeded bud still on the drying rack. The rest is good quality and seedless.

I took a head/top to smoke and it is a pleasant toke. No harshness, clear high, nice aroma and everything one might expect from a quality yeild.

Britewire give us some more info about the impressions you have gained from your ppp experience!!!

smokin dope
05-16-2006, 04:17 AM
so what did ya end up yieling? i love this grow, makes me wonder if i should change the strain i was going to go with for my grow. 6 plants hydro with 2 250 watters. just wondering where ya got these pp seeds and were they feminized? thanjks

britewire
05-16-2006, 06:57 AM
Bout 500 grams of quality pp dry. They weren't from seed, they were from clone. I think the seeds of the mother were from nirvana, but I'm not sure.

Just get a good soil and some good organic fertilisers (i.e. batguano) and you'll be fine, really.

mand
05-16-2006, 03:14 PM
Hello Britewire :) I haven't been on an awful lot just lately, but I've just seen those last pics you posted.
First rate job love, very very proffesional :)



love mand xxx :)