why do people say weed is a drug?

[HasheeshianKing]

its not a harmful drug, why is weed illegal i dont understand how alcohol and tabacco can be perfectly legal and weed isnt and weed is far less harmful than both alchy and cigs. so why is it an illegal drug?

[silasbotwin]

what an interesting point.

[dj defibrillator]

Its illegal because we live in a culture that fears people who exist outside of time. Sure, we send money to food shelves at Christmas, but we're afraid to look a homeless man in the eye. It really is as Jack Nicholson's character in Easy Rider describes it (a great scene from a movie that tells a lot of truth about pot). People who have been 'enlightened' by grass tend to take things with a grain of salt, not getting wound up about ultimately very frivolous things, like a douchebag you work with, traffic jams, bad weather, anything. Meanwhile everyone else is caught on a different wavelength, and they see this fragment, our fragment of society that is exempt from having to fuck with car payments and fashionable clothes and makeup and how to fit a new IKEA couch through the doorway...

That's my spiel

[notrightquite]

Any chemical outside of a food that alters the way the body works is a drug. Pot is a drug.

[dj defibrillator]

notrightquite, what makes the chemicals in food exempt?

[Awill3449]

Weed is a drug. Caffine is a drug, too. Neither are dangerous in moderation, but they're both drugs.

[slipknotpsycho]

it's called a drug by people who dislike it to make it sound worse

[notrightquite]

notrightquite, what makes the chemicals in food exempt?

If a chemical is added to a food or is in food, and that chemical itself changes your body's workings, it's a drug. I said food was exempt because food itself does change the way your body works, however it's required, so it can't be classified as a drug. Pot may seem like a requirement (I know I'd LOVE some right now ... fucking dealer won't answer his phone), but it's not! So it's a drug. That's just how it is ... drugs have a bad rep just because people are weird.

[Baker420]

"people" dont say weed is a drug...fucking NAZIs say its a drug.

[dj defibrillator]

I said food was exempt because food itself does change the way your body works, however it's required, so it can't be classified as a drug. Pot may seem like a requirement (I know I'd LOVE some right now ... fucking dealer won't answer his phone), but it's not! So it's a drug. That's just how it is ... drugs have a bad rep just because people are weird.

Notrightquite, I'm not saying grass should necessarily be consumed at a rate similar to food, but how is grass anything less than nourishment? I realize you were talking about the physical side of things, but isn't the mental-spiritual aspect just as important?

[notrightquite]

Sadly, no, the mental-spiritual aspect isn't important at all when labeling a substance. It's just not quantifiable.

[hex.shaman]

I say weed is not a drug, it is a herb. It's a no no because people in power are afraid of people who think for themselves on deeper levels.

[notrightquite]

Herbs are just drugs that the FDA hasn't had time to classify yet.

[StOneD.aS.FuK]

umm bacause weed IS a drug.
its not the weed thats the drug its the THC in the weed thats a drug.

but so what???

[SonEtLumiere]

A drug is any nonfood which changes the way your mind and body work, marijuana is a drug made of a complex of cannaboid derived active chemicals. THC isnt the only active ingredient either, theres tons of different cannaboids in marijuana which make it a very complex and difficult drug to classify. but no matter what marijuana is still a drug.

[notrightquite]

A drug is any nonfood which changes the way your mind and body work, marijuana is a drug made of a complex of cannaboid derived active chemicals. THC isnt the only active ingredient either, theres tons of different cannaboids in marijuana which make it a very complex and difficult drug to classify. but no matter what marijuana is still a drug.

...Didn't I just say that?

[LIP]

I think its illegal because too many people are ill-educated by our lying governments who refuse to tell the general public the truth about the many good points to cannabis. The good outwieghs the bad by more than 60% but not many people know this, simply because they are only told about the bad things... Bad things only really being the same as Tobacco and Alcohol. Laws are stupid, and this one is there to be broke.

[ghandi]

It's most probably still illegal because there is no way of knowing what someones tollerance is to MJ, what could get one person ripped could just give another a slight buzz, plus MJ is slightly hallucinogenic i personally have never hallucinated but i've heard of people who have

[slipknotpsycho]

It's most probably still illegal because there is no way of knowing what someones tollerance is to MJ, what could get one person ripped could just give another a slight buzz, plus MJ is slightly hallucinogenic i personally have never hallucinated but i've heard of people who have
at best i might see something out of the corner of my eye after i've been up for over 24 hrs. non stop smoking (long story, but sometimes i just can't go to sleep, so i don't feel like complete shit durring this i stay as fucked up as possible... becasue wanting/needing to be able to go to sleep and can't is true misery)

[HasheeshianKing]

lol, most of you are talking about why/how pot is a drug, but my question was why is it an ILLEGAL drug?

[Oli]

The title of your thread suggest otherwise...

[dj defibrillator]

Sadly, no, the mental-spiritual aspect isn't important at all when labeling a substance. It's just not quantifiable.

Notrightquite, I don't mean to be an ass, but I love debates so I'm going to keep at this - I think you represent a common opinion and that's really what I'm fighting - nothing personal.

As I said, grass shouldn't necessarily be consumed at the rate of food, or consumed at all for that matter, depending on the person. That so, if something isn't quantifiable then it should be made illegal? If something isn't quantifiable then it isn't as important as something that is?

How about religion, meditation, or art - these are all legal forms of spiritual 'food.' None of these is quantifiable, so why is it that only cannabis has been declared illegal?

[pixel]

whether or not a drug is legal has nothing to do with its status as a drug. don't be fooled by that "drugs and alcohol" bullshit because alcohol is as much as a drug as heroin is.

Main Entry: drug
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English drogge

A substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the central nervous system.

yes, marijuana is a drug. so is alcohol. so is tobbaco.

[Nullific]

Notrightquiet is perfectly right. While "drug" is a rather loosely used term (I prefer 'psychoactive'), cannabis fits the definition because it contains chemicals that directly affect the central nervous system and may cause significant changes in the way you think. Many people including myself have developed a tolerance to marijuana's effects and find it easy to go about ones normal everyday activities whilst stoned. I've also used heroin on occasion and must say that it also allowed me to perform my daily tasks as I normally would have, perhaps even better. Is heroin not a drug now?

I believe cannabis is illegal because it is a threat to the tobacco, alcohol and pharmaceutical industries not to mention oil and lumber. For those interested in how it actually became illegal read a few chapters of The Emperor Wears No Clothes (http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html).

[Powder Puff]

It's a drug:)

Why would I want to do it otherwhise??! lol

But, on a more serious note (I didn't read anything here) It's a drug, because it alter's you're state of mind.. Finished..

Maybe, some people say that, drugs are "engineered" by men, I say no.. Just as long as it alters you're mind, It's a drug..

The dangers of it might not even come CLOSE to some of the other drugs..!


Later

[Nochowderforyou]

You're all just in denial. We're all addicts. Marijuana addicts. Just admit it and stop complaining. ;)

[dj defibrillator]

Notrightquiet is perfectly right. While "drug" is a rather loosely used term (I prefer 'psychoactive'), cannabis fits the definition because it contains chemicals that directly affect the central nervous system and may cause significant changes in the way you think.

Who said grass isn't a drug?

[dj defibrillator]

I say weed is not a drug, it is a herb. It's a no no because people in power are afraid of people who think for themselves on deeper levels.

Okay I'll answer that one - it was shaman. My guess is cannabis is both, like salvia, which I can buy legally at an herbal shop two blocks from my home.

Again, but why not cannabis? I think that's what Hasheeshianking was asking...

[HasheeshianKing]

precisely wut i was asking, thank u dj defibrillator for clearing that up.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

If a chemical is added to a food or is in food, and that chemical itself changes your body's workings, it's a drug. I said food was exempt because food itself does change the way your body works, however it's required, so it can't be classified as a drug. Pot may seem like a requirement (I know I'd LOVE some right now ... fucking dealer won't answer his phone), but it's not! So it's a drug. That's just how it is ... drugs have a bad rep just because people are weird.

yes it is. pot replaces meat, and meat is considered required food because of amino acids found only in meat, tofu, and even more so, cannabis.


im sure it's factual that we could live on eating nothing but cannabis, and drinking only water, and breathing air.


oh, yes, and as far as im concerned, the only things that are drugs are the things you can induce a toxic overdose; which is, so far, everything BUT weed.

[notrightquite]

yes it is. pot replaces meat, and meat is considered required food because of amino acids found only in meat, tofu, and even more so, cannabis.


im sure it's factual that we could live on eating nothing but cannabis, and drinking only water, and breathing air.


oh, yes, and as far as im concerned, the only things that are drugs are the things you can induce a toxic overdose; which is, so far, everything BUT weed.

Yes ... as far as you are concerned. But you know, that's a subjective and personal definition. Not the english def.

[shiscobob]

exactly

[sdffa11]

whether its a harmful drug or not, its a drug. tylenol is a drug also. didnt you learn anything from 4th grade science class?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

universalism is redundant, the english language is flawed. there are cherokee words that the english language cannot define or discribe.

[Wright]

it alters your mind and body, thus it is a drug

[Shelbay]

Its illegal because we live in a culture that fears people who exist outside of time. Sure, we send money to food shelves at Christmas, but we're afraid to look a homeless man in the eye. It really is as Jack Nicholson's character in Easy Rider describes it (a great scene from a movie that tells a lot of truth about pot). People who have been 'enlightened' by grass tend to take things with a grain of salt, not getting wound up about ultimately very frivolous things, like a douchebag you work with, traffic jams, bad weather, anything. Meanwhile everyone else is caught on a different wavelength, and they see this fragment, our fragment of society that is exempt from having to fuck with car payments and fashionable clothes and makeup and how to fit a new IKEA couch through the doorway...

That's my spiel
imo..your right..because I am more pessimistic without my plant. Now that I read your post I HAVE to get that movie...always heard about etc...but have never watched it.

[420purplehaze420]

Ignorance.

[CoyoteGrass]

the gov. isnt legalizing it(except alaska, which its legal) because they make more money off the streets....my uncle is a nj state trooper and he says every time they make a drug bust, the bring it in, arrest the guy and then put it back out on the streets to distribute so they can bust again.....read up in the legalize forum and there are many interesting facts on how pot is good for u and shit like that