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sick ed sam
02-15-2006, 10:08 PM
ok so as we all know there has never been a recorded death by cannabis and I'm all for smoking weed and legalising it but surely smokin cannabis must contribute towards cancer or some sort of lung infection/disease??? I thought about this for years and have never really come to a conclusion. Since we smoke weed without a filter all tha shit and resin which sometimes collects around the roach depending on what weed your smokin ( i mean that as in solid or skunk as solid tends to collect alot of resin) well all that crap is collecting in your lungs fucking up those little hairs in your throat too as does smoking (i think their called tricheas) anyway i think that the resin which has collected in your lungs is just as bad as the tar which would have collected from smoking cigarettes ......
what do you think.....
Nochowderforyou
02-15-2006, 10:11 PM
Nope, I don't think so.
That resin doesn't stay in your lungs. Your body has a natural tendency to fight that off, but we do get a little bit of tar in it. The tar we do recieve though, isn't near as damaging as tobacco tar.
When I smoked cigs for 5yrs, I would be coughing up all kinds of goodies. I quit about 2yrs ago now and just smoke herb...no more goodies.
Smoking MJ does do some damage to your lungs, but not so much where it is life threatening in the long, or short run.
geoffrowley19
02-15-2006, 10:12 PM
nope
sick ed sam
02-15-2006, 10:20 PM
well i know wot u mean about coughin nastyness up lol n can i jus ask hun how do you know that the body has a natural tendancy to fight it off?? x
Nochowderforyou
02-15-2006, 10:57 PM
That's just what I heard :D
All I know is that I'm not hocking up chunks of flem anymore, and that's fine by me :p
OrangeKush
02-15-2006, 11:01 PM
That's just what I heard :D
All I know is that I'm not hocking up chunks of flem anymore, and that's fine by me :p
Its spelled phlegm you idiot............j/k ;)
chris40
02-15-2006, 11:01 PM
Your lungs like to be high, that's why they don't reject the marijuana.
Nochowderforyou
02-15-2006, 11:08 PM
Its spelled phlegm you idiot............j/k ;)
Is it really spelled that way? I guess I don't say it enough to even check or care :)
:thumbsup:
tokinggreg
02-15-2006, 11:28 PM
Yes, marijuana is carcinogenic, but not as much as cigarettes. It contributes slightly toward some cancers, but nowadays, it seems like everything contributes somewhat toward cancer. It is an inevitable truth we all will have to face at some point. When the statistic says there are no recorded deaths from marijuana, it is referring to the fact that no one has ODed and died because of marijuana AS A RESULT OF AN OVERDOSE. That's because you'd have to smoke a few pounds in one day to OD, and after an ounce or two, you'd pass out first.
Hope this helps,
Greg
I was told by someone that his friend died from lung cancer and only smoked weed
Kokujin X
02-15-2006, 11:43 PM
I was told by someone that his friend died from lung cancer and only smoked weed Well, just a couple days ago I saw the daily factoid was something along the lines of "No case of lung cancer caused by marijuana smoke alone has been reported" you know, close to that. So, if thats the case then this friend must have made it in medical books...
Anyway, it's not the tar in cigs that cause cancer, it's other chemicals, and if it were the tar (which it's not...) then there would be a LOT more cases of lung cancer cus weed has so much. Haven't you heard the statment "smoking 1 joint is like smoking 4 cigs"? Their reffering to the tar containment...
And of course, smoking ANYTHING is bad for you, if your really worried about it though I would suggest a vaporizor or just eating it...
Jimmicrackedcorn
02-15-2006, 11:56 PM
Sick ed sam, loving the name man :D, ure body naturally fights it off cuz thats what ure body does, the lil hairs become paralysed temporarily by smoke, and smoke is a plume of solid particles that float on the air currents, they condense in ure lungs to tar etc etc.........but when the hairs are activated once again, your lungs naturally clean themselves, because these tiny little hairs are used to catch stray dust particles, and will slowly pass them back up through the trachea (windpipe) where it gets deposited in the throat, either to cough the fuck up, or swallow in to the stomach, the problem with tars in cig smoke is that the commercially graded tobacco is grown with all kinds of inorganic fertz, which contain healthy levels of radioactive particles, namely polonium-210, which breaks down in to two daughter elements lead and radium, these create hotspots in the lung, and am pretty sure prolong the paralysation(is that even a word?) of the tracheal hairs, so they stick around for longer, and effect more cells which increases the risk of infection, or mutation of existing cells in to malignant cells (cancer). The natural organic carcinogen in tobacco smoke I think its called like byzene or summat, could only contribute to 1% of all cancers caused by smoking, and funnily enough the government has never funded a grant to investigate the effects of those radioactive chems and cancer, buddha is organic and doesn't contain any of this, smoking is bad for you yes, but your ass aint made out of glass, and is fairly resilient, plus all cancer rates have only significantly increased over the past 50 years, oddly enough, when they've been using fertz high in radioactive chemicals, which organic materials act as a beacon towards. Organic tobacco is the shit, strong as fuck and relaxing, baccy gets a real bad name, when really you should be blaming the cunts that grow and sell it.
homemade
02-16-2006, 12:03 AM
think of it a heavyish pot smoker smokes lets say 5 joints a day...
some ppl smoke 2paks of ciggs a day...
OrangeKush
02-16-2006, 12:22 AM
Is it really spelled that way? I guess I don't say it enough to even check or care :)
:thumbsup:
Thats funny because 2 days ago I would'nt even have noticed. I had just read it somewhere and it kinda made me laugh. Then I saw what you wrote and just couldnt resist. :thumbsup:
sick ed sam
02-16-2006, 03:11 AM
Yes, marijuana is carcinogenic, but not as much as cigarettes. It contributes slightly toward some cancers, but nowadays, it seems like everything contributes somewhat toward cancer. It is an inevitable truth we all will have to face at some point. When the statistic says there are no recorded deaths from marijuana, it is referring to the fact that no one has ODed and died because of marijuana AS A RESULT OF AN OVERDOSE. That's because you'd have to smoke a few pounds in one day to OD, and after an ounce or two, you'd pass out first.
Hope this helps,
Greg
Thank u greg my man haha you've helped Cheerz :thumbsup:
sick ed sam
02-16-2006, 03:13 AM
Well, just a couple days ago I saw the daily factoid was something along the lines of "No case of lung cancer caused by marijuana smoke alone has been reported" you know, close to that. So, if thats the case then this friend must have made it in medical books...
Anyway, it's not the tar in cigs that cause cancer, it's other chemicals, and if it were the tar (which it's not...) then there would be a LOT more cases of lung cancer cus weed has so much. Haven't you heard the statment "smoking 1 joint is like smoking 4 cigs"? Their reffering to the tar containment...
And of course, smoking ANYTHING is bad for you, if your really worried about it though I would suggest a vaporizor or just eating it...
Nah mate like i said at the beginnin im not bothered because it worries me all i do is toke lol its jus something i thought about years ago wen i was smokin n it has had me thinkin ever since lol
sick ed sam
02-16-2006, 03:15 AM
Sick ed sam, loving the name man :D, ure body naturally fights it off cuz thats what ure body does, the lil hairs become paralysed temporarily by smoke, and smoke is a plume of solid particles that float on the air currents, they condense in ure lungs to tar etc etc.........but when the hairs are activated once again, your lungs naturally clean themselves, because these tiny little hairs are used to catch stray dust particles, and will slowly pass them back up through the trachea (windpipe) where it gets deposited in the throat, either to cough the fuck up, or swallow in to the stomach, the problem with tars in cig smoke is that the commercially graded tobacco is grown with all kinds of inorganic fertz, which contain healthy levels of radioactive particles, namely polonium-210, which breaks down in to two daughter elements lead and radium, these create hotspots in the lung, and am pretty sure prolong the paralysation(is that even a word?) of the tracheal hairs, so they stick around for longer, and effect more cells which increases the risk of infection, or mutation of existing cells in to malignant cells (cancer). The natural organic carcinogen in tobacco smoke I think its called like byzene or summat, could only contribute to 1% of all cancers caused by smoking, and funnily enough the government has never funded a grant to investigate the effects of those radioactive chems and cancer, buddha is organic and doesn't contain any of this, smoking is bad for you yes, but your ass aint made out of glass, and is fairly resilient, plus all cancer rates have only significantly increased over the past 50 years, oddly enough, when they've been using fertz high in radioactive chemicals, which organic materials act as a beacon towards. Organic tobacco is the shit, strong as fuck and relaxing, baccy gets a real bad name, when really you should be blaming the cunts that grow and sell it.
Thx hun had to read that a couple of times as i have been having a lovely session with my mate and his boss so wasn't really going in at first lol but like i sed thx :)
DataMatrix
02-16-2006, 03:28 AM
The hairs are called "cilia", smoking cigarettes damage the cilia in the lungs. Smoking cannabis does not damage cilia. Cannabis is also an anti-cancer agent.
Hope this explained all you needed to know.
yzstoned
02-16-2006, 04:18 AM
weed smoke also stays in the larger passage ways as ciggarette smoke goes into the tiny passage ways.
Kokujin X
02-16-2006, 04:42 AM
It always used to scare me thinking about that resin collecting in my lungs... I mean, if they looked anything like my pipe... holy shit, you could last weeks scrapin resin from my lungs.
good thing thats not the case though.
statechamp3
02-16-2006, 04:47 AM
everybody is born with cancer cells inside their body, weed increases the chance of the cells multiplying 4 times more than cigarettes. It just depends on genetics... one person might inhale once and it might trigger cancer, but most can smoke for years and not be effected until later if ever at all.
sick ed sam
02-16-2006, 04:51 AM
thanks people for your input been some varied answers but its all bin useful....seriously though think ive been thinking bout it for around 3-4 years lol x
Kokujin X
02-16-2006, 04:52 AM
everybody is born with cancer cells inside their body, weed increases the chance of the cells multiplying 4 times more than cigarettes. It just depends on genetics... one person might inhale once and it might trigger cancer, but most can smoke for years and not be effected until later if ever at all. wtf? Did you just hear "Smoking 1 joint is like smoking 4 cigs" or what? Any credible information to prove this, otherwise idiotic statment?
sick ed sam
02-16-2006, 04:52 AM
oh n datamatrix nice 1 i should have paid more attention in biology lol i was along the right lines
DataMatrix
02-16-2006, 01:43 PM
weed smoke also stays in the larger passage ways as ciggarette smoke goes into the tiny passage ways.
Sure it does, anything you breathe has to go into the aveoli so it fills the whole of your lungs.
jahjahjahjah
02-16-2006, 01:46 PM
Nope, I don't think so.
That resin doesn't stay in your lungs. Your body has a natural tendency to fight that off, but we do get a little bit of tar in it. The tar we do recieve though, isn't near as damaging as tobacco tar.
When I smoked cigs for 5yrs, I would be coughing up all kinds of goodies. I quit about 2yrs ago now and just smoke herb...no more goodies.
Smoking MJ does do some damage to your lungs, but not so much where it is life threatening in the long, or short run.
I have to agree
DataMatrix
02-16-2006, 01:48 PM
everybody is born with cancer cells inside their body, weed increases the chance of the cells multiplying 4 times more than cigarettes. It just depends on genetics... one person might inhale once and it might trigger cancer, but most can smoke for years and not be effected until later if ever at all.
No, not everyone is born with cancer cells, thats the most stupid statement i've ever heard. If everyone was born with cancer cells they'd be dying by the age of 10-15. Cancer is caused when something such as a chemical changes a cells DNA and changes it's function, the cell forgets when to stop multiplying/growing and where it should be in the body. Therefore a tumour(lots of dead cells) grows because the malfunctioning cell keeps multiplying and is being killed off at the same time by the body, the body usually has failsafes against cancer therefore it can kill the malfunctioning cell, but once it has multiplied enough, there is no stopping without some sort of treatment.
osso87
02-16-2006, 03:26 PM
RIOT!!!!!
Nochowderforyou
02-16-2006, 04:42 PM
Interesting thread. :thumbsup: All the things I wanted to say, but couldn't, because I'm feeble minded. :D
jahjahjahjah
02-16-2006, 05:41 PM
God damn fags (ciggz) there bad for your body.
sick ed sam
02-16-2006, 05:48 PM
Interesting thread. :thumbsup: All the things I wanted to say, but couldn't, because I'm feeble minded. :D
Yea it is pretty interesting seeing what everybody's views are....im glad asked for peoples opinions (state the obvious derrr lol) keep ur opinions flowing in cheerz xx
Great Spirit
02-16-2006, 07:22 PM
Nope weed has NEVER been linked to death, nor cancer. Most people assume that you are smoking something so that must cause cancer. Cannabis is non-toxic and there are no harsh chemicals in it to cause the cancer. Researchers are finding out now that there is a certain ingredient in cigarettes called Lead 40 I believe and that is what causes the cancer, and not the smoke itself.
If anyone of you are familar with the Lehigh Tunnel in Pennsylvania, since I have been smoking weed I can hold my breathe all the way through the tunnel and some more!! THC actually expands your lungs!! Its a common prohibitionist tactic that weed does damage to the lungs which by the Grace of the Creator it doesn't. They know this but they don't want you to know. I have been smoking for almost 7 years now and since the government says bullshit like 1 joint equals 5 cigarettes or whichever, my lungs should be shot considering I did smoke cigarettes quite heavily before. Funny how I can hold my breathe that long huh?
statechamp3
02-16-2006, 09:43 PM
Everybody is born with cancer cells in there body... not the disease just cells. When they start multiplying is when they become deadly. And the smoke from MJ is 4 times as deadly as a cigarette... why nobody has died yet.... idk??? But im a 4.2 student... you can learn this in a 5th grade health class. And Datamatrix... before you say it is a stupid statement please look it up. If im wrong ill give you an OZ of weed but im not wrong.
statechamp3
02-16-2006, 09:48 PM
Oh... and it would have to effect the cells nucleus and the membrane ( forgot how to spell it so bare with me ) around that... not the DNA.. DNA structures wouldn't be effected... DNA stays the same, you can't change your DNA and genes , nor phenotype or genotype. ( forgot how to spell most of it so bare with me )
DataMatrix
02-17-2006, 03:12 AM
Haha, sure you can't change your DNA. You need to research before you post my friend.
Here are some examples of DNA changing.
1: The virus HIV infects cells and alters their DNA by incorporating their RNA into our DNA by an enzyme called reverse transcriptase. [Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV)]
2: Cancer starts by the DNA changing and the cell forgetting its function. [Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer)]
3: Designer babies are 'designed' by changing the egg/sperms DNA. [Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designer_babies)]
4: Gene therapy works by using an GENETICALLY altered virus to change the DNA of cells. [Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy)]
5: Ever heard of GM foods? Thats genetically modified. Which means changing the genetics of the plant. [Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_food)]
DataMatrix
02-17-2006, 03:19 AM
Everybody is born with cancer cells in there body... not the disease just cells. When they start multiplying is when they become deadly. And the smoke from MJ is 4 times as deadly as a cigarette... why nobody has died yet.... idk??? But im a 4.2 student... you can learn this in a 5th grade health class. And Datamatrix... before you say it is a stupid statement please look it up. If im wrong ill give you an OZ of weed but im not wrong.
No your wrong, healthy people DO NOT have cancer cells, cancer cells are caused by MUTATIONS. These mutations do NOT happen without cause. So therefore not everyone is born with cancer cells.
Please stop posting bull-shit.
SmokinRandy420
02-17-2006, 03:30 AM
ok so you cant die from smoking marijuana we established all that........So can you die from a thc overdose from eating too much of it????
Jimmicrackedcorn
02-17-2006, 11:01 PM
even tho ye, u may not be born with cancer cells, cancer is a mutation of DNA in many genes leading to unsupressed mitosis (division of a cell leavin behind the original cell and a new one which has the exact same characteristics of the last), but mitosis is nothing more than cellular growth and the reason behind physical development (growth). The problem arises when genes (proto-oncogenes, whose gene products promote cellular mitosis) become overactive and the cell division undergoes an apparently uncontrolled rate, but this alone will not be enough to cause cancer alone, as this is a normal part of the process of growth. Tumour suppressor genes create products which 'tell' mitosis to cease, and regulate cell growth, generally these genes are activated by cellular stress or DNA damage, and will further induce a process known as apoptosis (the deliberate cell death of unwanted cells in a multicellular organism, and the reason why we have individual fingers and toes), which decreases the risk of defective 'daughter' cells, but again, a mutation to only one tumor suppressor gene would not cause cancer either, due to the presence of many 'backup' genes that duplicate its functions. It is only when enough proto-oncogenes have mutated into oncogenes, and enough tumor suppressor genes deactivated or damaged, that the signals for cell growth overwhelm the signals to regulate it, that cell growth quickly spirals out of control. Cases in which cancer could not be 'caused' in the traditional sense (i.e smokin baccy or UV radiation from the sun) occur in children, proving that cancer, does not need to be caused, can, will, and does occur in otherwise healthy ppl, and will not always have to be sparked by the method described above (but will ultimately lead to mutation of DNA), as is seen in the case of estrogen dependant breast cancer (estrogen being a hormone, but also a carcinogen), which stimulates cells to divide and increase in number, increased cell growth leaves less time for DNA repair or the application of apoptosis, therefore increasing the risk of a genetic mutation (a normal part of cell division) to be passed to many daughter cells, if a sufficient number of defective cells accumulate then there is an increased risk carcinogenesis (malignant cancer growth), in other words ure fucked if you do, a lil bit less fucked if you don't, but it can still fuck ya.
As for ODing on THC, THC is pretty much the only chemical in the world to have a guesstimated LD50 (the dosage at which half the test subjects died) simply cuz its too high, but THC has a LD50 value of 1270 mg/kg (male rats), 730 mg/kg (female rats) orally (administered dissolved in sesame oil). If this were scaled up to an adult human, the lethal dose would be 2.8 ounces for a person weighing 140 lb (76 g for a 60 kg person, or over 1.4 kg [more than 3 lb] of average strength marijuana), rendering unlikely the possibility of an overdose, the therapeutic index (ratio of the quantity needed to experience psychoactive effects and quantity need for death) is 1:40,000 or 1:20,000 depending on where you look.
Fuk me i rambled there, soz I'm pissed :D
LightGreen
02-18-2006, 07:38 PM
just look up all the harmful chemicals in cigs. i smoked weed everyday for months and never had any problems with coffing and then i started smoking cigarettes and i couldent even play a pick up game of basketball or like 10 min and i was tired as a bitch. and by the way just cause somebody got lung cancer and they smoked weed doesent mean that it caused the cancer, people get lung cancer who dont smoke anything.
God v2.0
02-18-2006, 10:16 PM
The hairs are called "cilia", smoking cigarettes damage the cilia in the lungs. Smoking cannabis does not damage cilia. Cannabis is also an anti-cancer agent.
Hope this explained all you needed to know.
without an explanation you're just as bad as the propagandizing evil ass govt.
I know that weed actually relaxes and therefor widens bronchial passageways and therefore your lungs are able to clean themselves much easier. Also when you smoke weed it creates a basic environment as opposed to an acidic one (in which cancer can grow) so weed helps prevent cancer as well
Xylene
02-18-2006, 10:51 PM
Everybody is born with cancer cells in there body... not the disease just cells. When they start multiplying is when they become deadly. And the smoke from MJ is 4 times as deadly as a cigarette... why nobody has died yet.... idk??? But im a 4.2 student... you can learn this in a 5th grade health class. And Datamatrix... before you say it is a stupid statement please look it up. If im wrong ill give you an OZ of weed but im not wrong.
A 4.2 student who types like a ten year old on AOL? Interesting.
ghandi
02-18-2006, 11:26 PM
Hi all, just stumbled across this thread... from what i've heard MJ is 5 times more carcinogenic than tobacco (1 joint = 5 cigarettes) although as it effects your body differently than tobacco the carcinogenic chemicals in MJ are easier to get rid of. hope this helps in any way :thumbsup:
statechamp3
02-21-2006, 02:33 AM
Fuck it, Im a black person raised in Bronx, New York, so its great that I type as well as I do. I was just tellin yall what I took a quater finals test on 3 weeks ago. But Fuck it, I dont care, good luck, and tell yourself that weed is candy and does good for your body.
Adolf Smittler
02-21-2006, 02:51 AM
DataMatrix,
Marijuana has only been proven to affect cancer cells. Whether or not they actually promote or inhibit cancer is still unknown.
Adolf Smittler
02-21-2006, 03:01 AM
i think you could overdose on pure THC if you snorted it. you'd probably have to snort a LOT of it though. also, regardless of the chemicals in weed, it's only deadly if it actually kills people. it doesn't.
shiscobob
02-21-2006, 04:42 AM
what a retard
CocaCola
02-21-2006, 06:03 AM
All the 1 joint = 5 ciggs bullshit is false. And wether it promotes cancer or not, it won't do it nearly as fast as cigarettes. Plus, there is a whole mess of chemicals in Marijuana that contributes to that system in your body that regulates fatigue and hunger and stuff... we don't know what is in it exactly... or at least what alot of those other chemicals do. But most promote good health, though we all know that smoking anything can't be good for your lungs.
vengeance
02-21-2006, 06:11 AM
HAHA another person that thinks that you can snort weed! HAHA
But anyway the only way you could overdose to death is by eating like 2 pounds worth in 20 minutes. Because the weed takes time to break down in you stomach you would have a chance to over dose. But if you smoked it you would feel the effect straight away and fall asleep before you could overdose. But who the fuck is going to make brownies with two pounds???
This is my opinion:
Smoking anything is bad for you but ciggs are worse because they contain lots of unnecessary chemicals to make the smoke "smoother" (*cough*) like flamougerhide (spelling). Even though weed has 5 x the tar
1. Tar does not cause cancer; if it did low tar ciggs would not cause cancer
2. How many joints do you smoke a day? 2 maybe 3 joints a day for a heavy smoker. I smoke once a month and out of a bong so that helps
3. What doesn't cause cancer???
I donā??t think that weed stops cancer, I think it makes people with cancer (kemo ruins appetite) and HIV eat during the treatment that can save their life.
By the way the guy that says ciggies are better then joints are you being paid of something?? I bet your one of those shit filled fags that says
"Iā??m a qualified (*cough*) doctor and marijuana causes heart attacks, strokes, colds, mumps, crabs, aids, cancer, flu, stomach aches, head aches, lice, Stockholm syndrome, world hunger, death, violent behaviour, schizophrenia, spontaneous combustion, vomiting, nausea, loss of appetite, suicidal thoughts, impotence, paralysation and of course makes people want to kill everyone and them selves, blow up the earth and assassinate the president! Clearly this man is intelligent and knows exactly what he is talking about! And irrational behaviour in any person is clearly caused by weed!"
Ok you probably didn't read all of that but you get the idea.
Yes, I believe it is possible to get cancer from weed but unlikely.
Any one that says ciggies are better than pot in any way deserves to be gang-bashed to death with spiked clubs.
and look at my sig, and look at ciggie death and MJ death. even though more people smoke ciggies, there would still be some deaths from maijuana if it was leathal.
Hollandica
02-21-2006, 08:35 AM
In summer I smoke 6-9 joints on an evening alone, I guess I'd be fcuked then. Anyway. You indeed have to use huge amounts of marijuana to overdose on it, so basically you can't call it an overdose anymore, because you can die from any substance. You can die from water, if you drink too much of it (which is really much, btw), and you can die from potatoes, lollypops, chocolate, anything. In that respect, it isn't the THC itself that kills you but the weed itself if you get what I mean.
slipknotpsycho
02-21-2006, 09:36 AM
[QUOTE=sick ed sam]ok so as we all know there has never been a recorded death by cannabis and I'm all for smoking weed and legalising it but surely smokin cannabis must contribute towards cancer or some sort of lung infection/disease??? I thought about this for years and have never really come to a conclusion. Since we smoke weed without a filter all tha shit and resin which sometimes collects around the roach depending on what weed your smokin ( i mean that as in solid or skunk as solid tends to collect alot of resin) well all that crap is collecting in your lungs fucking up those little hairs in your throat too as does smoking (i think their called tricheas) anyway i think that the resin which has collected in your lungs is just as bad as the tar which would have collected from smoking cigarettes ......
i'm sure it probably does contribute to certain ailments, but so does cig smoke and it's proven to cause cancer, yet they stay legal, so that can't be a reason used to say weed is bad...
sick ed sam
02-21-2006, 05:30 PM
[QUOTE=sick ed sam]ok so as we all know there has never been a recorded death by cannabis and I'm all for smoking weed and legalising it but surely smokin cannabis must contribute towards cancer or some sort of lung infection/disease??? I thought about this for years and have never really come to a conclusion. Since we smoke weed without a filter all tha shit and resin which sometimes collects around the roach depending on what weed your smokin ( i mean that as in solid or skunk as solid tends to collect alot of resin) well all that crap is collecting in your lungs fucking up those little hairs in your throat too as does smoking (i think their called tricheas) anyway i think that the resin which has collected in your lungs is just as bad as the tar which would have collected from smoking cigarettes ......
i'm sure it probably does contribute to certain ailments, but so does cig smoke and it's proven to cause cancer, yet they stay legal, so that can't be a reason used to say weed is bad...
Ah we meet agen slipknotpsycho... obviously you didn't read what i wrote correctly otherwise you wouldn't have written such a pointless fuckin answer... I wasn't talking about the legalisation of cannabis although i wish it was legalized to a certain extent.I'm all for smoking and growing weed in which I do both so I couldn't really give a fuck if it is bad or not it's something in which I choose to do for many reasons! This thread was just to see what peoples opinions are as it's something (and I quote) ''I thought about this for years and have never really come to a conclusion'' so basically I'm just saying I'm not trying to find reasons why weed is bad just wanted to settle something in my own mind...and for future reference if you must continue to answer on my threads an apology would be appreciated seen as last time we kind of spoke you was being a prick n slagging me off to someone!!!
slipknotpsycho
02-22-2006, 07:26 AM
ok so as we all know there has never been a recorded death by cannabis and I'm all for smoking weed and legalising it but surely smokin cannabis must contribute towards cancer or some sort of lung infection/disease???
this is all i managed to read of your entire post, it hurt my head (literally) to try and understand it all...
sick ed sam
02-22-2006, 11:17 PM
this is all i managed to read of your entire post, it hurt my head (literally) to try and understand it all...
that's possibly because your fucking dumb....
CocaCola
02-22-2006, 11:37 PM
Ah we meet agen slipknotpsycho... obviously you didn't read what i wrote correctly otherwise you wouldn't have written such a pointless fuckin answer... I wasn't talking about the legalisation of cannabis although i wish it was legalized to a certain extent.I'm all for smoking and growing weed in which I do both so I couldn't really give a fuck if it is bad or not it's something in which I choose to do for many reasons! This thread was just to see what peoples opinions are as it's something (and I quote) ''I thought about this for years and have never really come to a conclusion'' so basically I'm just saying I'm not trying to find reasons why weed is bad just wanted to settle something in my own mind...and for future reference if you must continue to answer on my threads an apology would be appreciated seen as last time we kind of spoke you was being a prick n slagging me off to someone!!!
ok so as we all know there has never been a recorded death by cannabis and I'm all for smoking weed and legalising it but surely smokin cannabis must contribute towards cancer or some sort of lung infection/disease??? I thought about this for years and have never really come to a conclusion. Since we smoke weed without a filter all tha shit and resin which sometimes collects around the roach depending on what weed your smokin ( i mean that as in solid or skunk as solid tends to collect alot of resin) well all that crap is collecting in your lungs fucking up those little hairs in your throat too as does smoking (i think their called tricheas) anyway i think that the resin which has collected in your lungs is just as bad as the tar which would have collected from smoking cigarettes ......
i'm sure it probably does contribute to certain ailments, but so does cig smoke and it's proven to cause cancer, yet they stay legal, so that can't be a reason used to say weed is bad...
Look at his post and then at yours... you're being a bitch... he's just responding to the thread... your insulting him and shit... he's showing respect and only posting on the thread subject... YOU'RE FUCKING DUMB.
sick ed sam
02-23-2006, 02:30 PM
Look at his post and then at yours... you're being a bitch... he's just responding to the thread... your insulting him and shit... he's showing respect and only posting on the thread subject... YOU'RE FUCKING DUMB.
mate if you read the last bit of my thread it mentions when slipknotpsycho was calling ME so I think I'm entitled to defend myself yeah.....
CYRAX
02-23-2006, 02:38 PM
who gives a fuck if it kills you or not........ high metanance bastards, jp, hah..
I dont give a fuck if it kills me or not, we all die someday, i just wanna get high.
slipknotpsycho
02-23-2006, 03:00 PM
mate if you read the last bit of my thread it mentions when slipknotpsycho was calling ME so I think I'm entitled to defend myself yeah.....
my-my someone needs a pamprin...
polly..er...sick ed sam want a pamprin?
and he's right i've been quite respectable, i never once insulted you, or implied anything negative towards you, and i was being literal.. you slaughtered grammar completely, and your spelling resembles either a 9 year old, or that of a 47 mentally challenged, sleep deprived, lunatic... when i see your writing, i literally expect to see your "r"'s reversed, only to realize, you wouldn't stand a chance at even being able to comprehend the knowledge and skill that it would actually take to reverse a character on a message board.
sick ed sam
02-24-2006, 10:28 PM
my-my someone needs a pamprin...
polly..er...sick ed sam want a pamprin?
and he's right i've been quite respectable, i never once insulted you, or implied anything negative towards you, and i was being literal.. you slaughtered grammar completely, and your spelling resembles either a 9 year old, or that of a 47 mentally challenged, sleep deprived, lunatic... when i see your writing, i literally expect to see your "r"'s reversed, only to realize, you wouldn't stand a chance at even being able to comprehend the knowledge and skill that it would actually take to reverse a character on a message board.
mate, how can you even say that? ONCE I wrote things short term as I would in a text message and you started slagging me off to someone who had also insulted me because of it...what's the big deal with how I write? I'm more than capable of typing correctly as you can see so why did you have to make a fuss of it?? If you didn't like it then don't fucking read it simple as that all I was doing was replying to a thread I didn't ask to be insulted just like you haven't but I don't see why it's ok for you to critisize but not me? Also why do other people have to get involved this is just a simple dispute between yourself and I, all I wanted was an apology for u being so rude in the first place I'm here purely because I LOVE to smoke weed and have just grown my first crop and would like my knowledge of cannabis to advance in anyway possible I'm not here to argue like children so if you leave it at this so will I and we can forget about it...either way I'm not arsed but I'd like to go for the obvious option.
sick ed sam
02-24-2006, 10:30 PM
who gives a fuck if it kills you or not........ high metanance bastards, jp, hah..
I dont give a fuck if it kills me or not, we all die someday, i just wanna get high.
Totally feelin' you hun I couldn't give a fuck either it's just one of those things that was annoyin me lol keep blazin' xx
sick ed sam
02-24-2006, 10:31 PM
oh and I forgot to add slipknotpsycho I am sleep deprived and mentally derranged but thats whole other story....
sick ed sam
02-25-2006, 12:53 AM
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jailer3000
02-25-2006, 03:01 AM
smokin nethin is not good for ur lungs. period. the chemicals is commercial cigs r much more dangerouse and unhealthy then those in weed. yes weed does contain carcinogins (sp) but nowendays just bout nethin does. its the type and level of the chemicals that is the problem. weed dosnt have very high or very dangerouse varients of these. in terms of lung damage, i kno i have found i lose my breath faster playin sports after a couple days of light but constant smokin (a joint a day for maybe 3-5 days) but within a couple weeks of not smokin i feel i am basically back to normal. life is full of ways to hurt and kill urself. its bout choosin which ways u wanna do it.
slipknotpsycho
02-25-2006, 05:33 AM
mate, how can you even say that? 1.ONCE I wrote things short term as I would in a text message and you started slagging me off to someone who had also insulted me because of it...what's the big deal with how I write? I'm more than capable of typing correctly as you can see so why did you have to make a fuss of it?? If you didn't like it then don't fucking read it simple as that all I was doing was replying to a thread I didn't ask to be insulted just like you haven't but I don't see why it's ok for you to critisize but not me? 2.Also why do other people have to get involved this is just a simple dispute between yourself and I, 3.all I wanted was an apology for u being so rude in the first place I'm here purely because I LOVE to smoke weed and have just grown my first crop and would like my knowledge of cannabis to advance in anyway possible I'm not here to argue like children so if you leave it at this so will I and we can forget about it...either way I'm not arsed but I'd like to go for the obvious option.
1. your typing was absolutely horrible... it wasn't making fun of you.. it was being litearl...
u do ask alot ov mad questions but ur learnin init jus try not to make ALL us girls look like amateurs lol j/k ov course everybody az bin a noob n u wanna progress in ur ganja knowledge lol buh plz use a lil common sense aswell lol we dont h8 u!!! xx
even without grammar this is how diffrent your post looks from spelled correctly...
you do ask alot of mad questions but you're learning in it just try not to make all of us girls look like amateurs lol j/k of course everybody has been a noob and you wanna progress in your ganja knowledge lol but please use a little common sense aswell lol we don't hate you
now can you tell me, that yours is easy in any way, shape or form easier to read?
2. that's becasue i have a reputation here, both good and bad... if you go to alot of my posts that were like arguments/debates so on, you will see that people both will defend me and will argue with me... if you're expecting to come here and argue/fight with anyone, dont' expect it's going to stay '1on1' people have always and will always jump in with their opinions, that's the point of a msg board, to share opinons/thoughts and so on..
3. ok i'm sorry, obviously you took what i said as offensive, when it wasn't meant to be, i was just saying what i truely thought.. it was never meant to be an attacking statment/deragatory or so on.. so i do apologize for that
sick ed sam
02-25-2006, 04:19 PM
1. your typing was absolutely horrible... it wasn't making fun of you.. it was being litearl...
even without grammar this is how diffrent your post looks from spelled correctly...
now can you tell me, that yours is easy in any way, shape or form easier to read?
2. that's becasue i have a reputation here, both good and bad... if you go to alot of my posts that were like arguments/debates so on, you will see that people both will defend me and will argue with me... if you're expecting to come here and argue/fight with anyone, dont' expect it's going to stay '1on1' people have always and will always jump in with their opinions, that's the point of a msg board, to share opinons/thoughts and so on..
3. ok i'm sorry, obviously you took what i said as offensive, when it wasn't meant to be, i was just saying what i truely thought.. it was never meant to be an attacking statment/deragatory or so on.. so i do apologize for that
thanks for the apology but you just can't resist saying something else can you haha anyway I really can't be bothered to continue with this so keep smoking your way into oblivion mate :) x
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