Vaporizers

[nutranater]

I have been interested in getting a vaporizer. I have had many respiratory problems since childhood and now in my 40's the smoke is getting to me. I smoke to relieve the pain from rheumatoid athritis. and glaucoma. I have done some research and the more I research the more confused I get! Yes before the screaming begins I know the Volcano is sent from zues himself. That is great for you who can afford to put out $5oo+. I have read more than a few article that say the volcano is coming down on price because the new models are coming out that work way better. Would like to hear from some people who have resonable priced vaps. I was interested in the vapor bros. models but heard that don't really work that well and take a long time to heat up. So let's hear what everyone here who uses one has to say. Thanks

[Krippysmoker]

Man the Volcano is the best.......you will have your money back in no time

[BiG WiCkEd]

Doesn't cost me more than $2 to get me a bomb ass vaporizer...

Lightbulb vaps are fuckin great.

[Seag420]

ive got a volcano, its brilliant, but ive been looking at a vapezilla, around the same price, but apparently the taste is even more pungent.

[nutranater]

Yeah the vapezilla is the one I would get if I could afford such ridiculous prices. The Vapezilla web site shows 3 products that look good. It is the opinion of everyone that the volcano will come down in price fast in the next couple of month because of the Vapezilla. So BIG WICKed do tell how you got it for 2 bucks or can have it. R U talking about DIY. Thanks for the reply men!

[beachguy in thongs]

This is very cheap.
http://www.yahooka.com/forum/printthread.php?t=10467



OK SO HERE WE GO

Needed Shit
1. Glass mason jar (for stewed tomatoes...etc.)with screw on lid.
2. lil bit of vinyl tubing - can get this at any local hardware store- costs like 50cents a foot and u only need about 1/2 ft.
3. small candle (those little candles that fit in the glass holders work best)

so heres what u do...
first take the mason jar lid and cut a hole in the center of it- this is kinda hard. just use a hammer/screwdriver, or try to cut it or some such shit. try to make it a bit smaller than the vinyl tubing so when u push the tube through it will stay airtight.
then push the tube through the hole so its half in half out....put the lid back on the jar so the tube is half in the jar half out.

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now u have the main chamber of the vaporizer and all u gotta do is one more thing....just set up a little stand or something, so that the flame comes about 1 or 2 inches from the bottom of the jar where u will put the crushed up herb....so the flame slowly heats the bud and then u can such it out through the tube....

like so....

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so its pretty easy, i made one in about 20 minutes, and once u get it set, all u gotta do is wait 2-3 minutes and the little fluffy white vapor will fill ur jar and ull be flying high..

Also if u wanna make it airtight just wrap some string around the tube on the top and bottom of the lid and tape it up real tight, this will prevent some loss of vapor - but its not really necessary....


WELL hope all u jah heads enjoy this - lemme know how u like it!!!!

[MaryjaneMenehune]

do you have any actual pics of it in action?
did you ever try that solder gun method? I have pretty much no idea how to make that with the explanation...

[MaryjaneMenehune]

one more thing...how can you suck out the vapor if the whole thing is air tight?...once you put suction on the thing, there will be no place for the fresh air to come in to replace the vapor/air you are trying to suck out...it 's like puting a vacuum hose onto your hand, it just is going to stay stuck to it without any air transfer...

[nutranater]

Just how does the flame get to the herb or are you just heating up the glass? Don't know how you heat it up without holding the jar and have it burn your hand. Now that soldering gun sounds interesting has anyone tried it? I thought of this as a alternative to the old butane lighters.Also thought of the old wood burning tools.

[Lady D]

Hey, Nutranater -

I know your pain...seriously. I have lupus. As someone with an autoimmune disorder, you KNOW you shouldn't smoke anything. I usually ingest the herb cooked, baked, made into a drink, etc. I haven't smoked it in about 4 years. I decided I wanted a decent vaporizer for an occasional toke a few months ago, so I went down to my local shop to check out what was available, and what the salespeople would recommend. They had the Volcano, and when I asked them what they thought, they said it works fine, but is a bit overrated...hence the ridiculous price. They suggested a Vapor Brothers, and after a bit of discussion, I ended up buying one for a little less than 200 bucks. The sales guy owned one himself and assured me I would be very pleased. Well, he was right! It works really well, I can leave it on my desk in my den as it looks like a desk accessory, and I have no complaints. Check it out at http://www.vaporbrothers.com. It's also less of a hassle to use than the Volcano, & since you have RA, you'll appreciate not having to mess around with your hands too much. The only inconvenience is having to change the screen in the whip (how often depends on how much you smoke), but once you get the hang of it, it's easy. The written directions are clear and explicit. I'm very pleased, and it beats the hell out of making your own out of spare parts!:D

[sheist]

yea, or u can make ur own... i've made a few...

[the image reaper]

I have the Vapor Bros. vaporizer ... my neighbor didn't like it, and gave it to me ... I had to buy a new whip for it, his was broken (they are a bit delicate, be careful) ...
at first, I didn't care for it, bit of a hassle, but after I got the knack, found my correct heat setting, I really do like it ... I quit smoking years ago, and don't like the sore throat, etc, from joints ... the vaporizer is the answer ..
BONUS !!! ... I know this sounds too good to be true, but I'm being straight with ya ... after vaporizing, the 'fluff' that is left behind, is saved, rolled into joints, and gives the same high as was obtained with the vaporizer ... ??? ... I smoke my stash twice ... I (and friends that tried a taste with me) couldn't tell much, if any, difference in the joint of used weed, versus the original in the vaporizer ... very cool ... :smokin:

[nutranater]

Yeah, I liked the Vapobrothers model but was a little concerned with the alum. heating element. Did a little more research and found the Vaporwarez models. They were the first one's to make the Vaporbrothers vape's but broke off and started there own company. There practically identical except they have a ceramic element. So I looked on e-bay and found one for 95 bucks. About 15 shipping. I made the mistake of not checking the guys feedback and got a e-mail after I did a "Buy It Now" from a guy who was ripped off by this bum seller. NEEDLESS to say I am out over a hundred bucks and no vape:mad:I have filed a complant with paypal but I AM screwed. If I get any of the money back I will try again!

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has anyone here used the vapir one?

[bakostoner]

Just how does the flame get to the herb or are you just heating up the glass? Don't know how you heat it up without holding the jar and have it burn your hand. Now that soldering gun sounds interesting has anyone tried it? I thought of this as a alternative to the old butane lighters.Also thought of the old wood burning tools.

The flame never reaches the herb thus does not burn it. Breathing hot smoke is what f's up your lungs. Vaporizing heats it slowly like a crock pot for pot and thus only provides white cool smoke which is actually good for the lungs.

The heat will be isolated to the bottom of jar so touching the sides is no problem.

[cjh3387]

Could someone please tell me what exactly a vaporizor does, how it works, and the advantages of having one? I am interested in having one for my new place next year.

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it heats up the herb rather than burning it, thereby releasing the helpful chemicals but not bringing them to a combustion temperature. Basically, it's just a whole lot better on your lungs.

[cjh3387]

Does it conserve weed by making a smaller amount get you higher or anything like that?

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read the image reaper's post above. Or here:


I have the Vapor Bros. vaporizer ... my neighbor didn't like it, and gave it to me ... I had to buy a new whip for it, his was broken (they are a bit delicate, be careful) ...
at first, I didn't care for it, bit of a hassle, but after I got the knack, found my correct heat setting, I really do like it ... I quit smoking years ago, and don't like the sore throat, etc, from joints ... the vaporizer is the answer ..
BONUS !!! ... I know this sounds too good to be true, but I'm being straight with ya ... after vaporizing, the 'fluff' that is left behind, is saved, rolled into joints, and gives the same high as was obtained with the vaporizer ... ??? ... I smoke my stash twice ... I (and friends that tried a taste with me) couldn't tell much, if any, difference in the joint of used weed, versus the original in the vaporizer ... very cool ... :smokin:

[pharcyde]

As one who has both the Vapir and Volcano I want to be sure people temper their expectation.

Vaporizers certainly relieve your lungs from the smoke, and reduce the non-THC toxins. It's much easier on my throat. I've lost the naggin cough.

That said, the vaporizer still can dry your throat out. It still irritates my mucous membrans and leaves a taste in my mouth. I will occaisionally put a few drops of water in the cup to increase the humidity of the vapor. Somewhere in the documentation that came with my Vapir they mention adding oils or ground coffee beans to enhance the taste and make the vapor more soothing.

I've played with the temp settings to mellow the taste. The bad thing about the vaporizer is that I miss the great taste of really good dank buds.

As for the cheap glass bulb vaps....they don't compare. You cannot control the temperature of the air. The temp rises uncontrollably and at some point stops vaporizing just the THC and starts including all the bad stuff that is in there. Remember, in addition to the THC that we seek, there are literally hundreds of other components in the weed, some of which are bad for you.

The Volcano and digital Vapir super heat the air to a set temp and pass it across the herb. When adjusted properly, that temp maximizes the vaporization of the THC and not the stronger carcinogens, etc.

What I do now is smoke the really good stuff (when I have it) and vaporize the mids.

[pharcyde]

While you may get a buzz from the "fluff" out of the vaporizer, it certainly isn't what it was fresh.

Either you're not efficiently vaporizing the weed the first time in the VAP or your not getting much from the residual. Bottom line, there is a finite amount of buzz in your budz.

I save mine as well and then pack a bunch into the Volcano cup with some ground coffee beans or something else and run it a second time. The taste definetaly degrades the second time around and there is much less intensity.

[gramzzilla420]

I really like the vapor bros. it is less then half the price of the valcano and works great... i tried the bc style vaporizer (my friends) and it made the weed taste like plastic... so after one hit on that we turned on the vapor bros... and tasted only the fresh sweet taste we love... no smoke only vapor unless you have the heat to high... also i no longer have the cough that had developed from smoking... still enjoy a joint/blunt once in awhile tho.

[gramzzilla420]

I have the Vapor Bros. vaporizer ... my neighbor didn't like it, and gave it to me ... I had to buy a new whip for it, his was broken (they are a bit delicate, be careful) ...
at first, I didn't care for it, bit of a hassle, but after I got the knack, found my correct heat setting, I really do like it ... I quit smoking years ago, and don't like the sore throat, etc, from joints ... the vaporizer is the answer ..
BONUS !!! ... I know this sounds too good to be true, but I'm being straight with ya ... after vaporizing, the 'fluff' that is left behind, is saved, rolled into joints, and gives the same high as was obtained with the vaporizer ... ??? ... I smoke my stash twice ... I (and friends that tried a taste with me) couldn't tell much, if any, difference in the joint of used weed, versus the original in the vaporizer ... very cool ... :smokin:
I HAVE BEEN THROWING THE "FLUFF" AWAY... DO YOU DO ANYTHING WITH THE RESIN THAT YOU SCRAPE OUT OF THE WHIP WHEN YOU CLEAN IT??? ALSO DID YOU GET YOUR NEW WHIP ON LINE OR IN A HEAD SHOP?? IF ON LINE WHERE???

[the image reaper]

I did a Google research on vaporizers, and one of the results took me to the Vapor Bros. store, where I bought the new whip, about $28, if I remember right ... also, I'm sticking to my story on smoking the 'fluff' with almost the same results as the original ... I don't claim to know why, how, and if anyone else told me that, I would think theyre full of shit ... I pre-heat the Vapor Bros. glass heat-tube to 325 dgrees F ( I have an extremely accurate infrared thermometer a Raytek Mini-Temp ) ... vaporize a bit of bud, 2-3 good hits, then save it for rolling later ... those joints pretty well floor all my friends, and I can tell VERY little difference ... go figure ... :confused: ... :smokin:

[The Fog King]

I recently started producing a new vaporizer called, surprise suprize, the Fog-King. www.fogking.net

Seriously, theyâ??re great little units, and they only cost 50 bucks.

Let me know if you have any questions,

The Fog King

[chaywoo]

I cant believe I didnt see any AroMed vaporizer remarks in here... I wouldnt do anything until u take a close look at the AroMed, I used to use the vapolution, i had to use a digital thermometer to determin my temps, and the vapir one forced air unit.. both of these for some strange reason made my breathing more constrict after i was finished and i couldnt figure it out. well to make a long story short, I have the AroMed and I have no restricted breathing when i am finished, I see another review of the valcano, also restricted breathing after.. i think its a mystery as to why there is breating restricted after using one of those vaporizers... I dont think it happens to everyone, just people with more sensative lungs i guess, and if u only have a small amount of money, then doods soldering iron for 50$ is better than wasting more money and it should still work just as good as the others, except with the 50$ deal, u have to sqweeze the trigger for a certain amount of time while others, u blindly set a reo-stat of some sort.. but if u want one that requires no personal tweeking so u can adjust to the vaporizer, only for all of those adjustments to completely dissapear in a different enviroment, like a friends house for example, and that is because different ambient temps, and slight voltage variations present at the electrical outlet, for example, ive been to house that only have about 105 vac, and others 120 strong..this voltage variation alone, not to mention voltage drops on the same circuit from other appliances kiking on or something else, will completely have u to be an ignoramous to your vaporizer... the deal is, plug it in one outlet, dont show your friends because u will screw up there vaporizing experience... if u want one that anyone can hit properly, then get the AroMed. No bull here

[MonkeyRacket]

I think the Silver Surfer Vaporizer is one of the best vapes for under $200. The AroMed is pretty sweet and I really like the water filter, I would probably rather have the Super Vapezilla though.

Take a look at http://www.vapeguide.com for informative reviews and a listing of most of the vaporizers available.

[chaywoo]

hey monkeyracket! doooooooood! the super zilla ties u down to slave to matching the speed of the fan and for a hundred dollars less u dont have to slave to a fan and the super vapezilla doesnt measure budd temp but the exiting temp if i understand the specs correctly. i dont understand why anyone would want a lessor quality vaporizer for more money? maybe u can help me understand?

[MonkeyRacket]

To be honest chaywoo, I am still somewhat skeptical primarily because of Wicked Root's history of sketchy promotion/advertising techniques.

I am thinking the fan was only for cooling the unit and the vapor wasn't actually blown out but I'm not too sure. I think the biggest advantage is that it is supposed to automatically adjust the temperature based on how fast you are inhaling. It is also a very sleek looking unit and I like the male/female whip connection.

After seeing it win the Cannabis Cup and hearing comments and reviews from a lot of (apparently) happy customers I am tempted to fork out the cash to try one myself.

[chaywoo]

wow thats great, but i would be certain about the fan issue first.... from the looks of the unit, the herb goes into the whip thing... the manufacturer in this case doesnt make much claims about anything, makes no attempt to describe its theory of operation etc.... the AroMed on the other hand lays it all out, describing how the temp is measured, how it is heated right down to the no bull about it... so for those facts alone, I wouldnt buy it... but on the other hand, the AroMed is far less visually pleasing, but far better for the brain all the way up to 450F where the taste isnt great anymore, but the affects are much stronger than a new bowl... the AroMed pay for itself faster in 2 ways.. one is that it has been tested for over 200 hrs of continues operation at over 200C, its longevity should be most promising, and thus saving money on new vaporizers, and then efficiency.. this bowl i loaded yesturday and got the neighbor lit, today already loaded 3 times on the same bowl! it was about 2.5 joints worth. I was trying to dust it out so we can start fresh tonight friday night! I dont know if u have to hold the whip in place do u? and if u do, then its not hands free, and i think the fan is introducing air to the inhaled stream, how else would it monitor temp if its not measuring budd temp? it would need to measure air temp and that sounds like it would be done by blowing the inhaled air over a thermostat to be sure the elements arent over heating... ceramic is a heat insulator, any element has to work harder to get heat through it... the AroMed uses halogen uv free bulb at varying intensities to compensate for air flow fluctuations by measurement of the product temp. It sounds like u may make the purchase based on the looks? uhoh, that means lookout, that is a huge expensive possible disaster, i would really think twice, i myself already bought 2 other different vaporizers and threw my money in the trash because of them and now im pissed, and sense i found a truly perfect in operation vaporizer, im gona shout it to everyone, because there is just too much expensive crap making big claims and not delivering!

[chaywoo]

i havent seen any reviews on it, where can i find them? its unfortunate the manufacturer is incapable of explaining the theory of operation, yet is capable of producing a good vaporizer?

[chaywoo]

oops, i mean 1.5 joints worth, as u can see its friday, super relax day, i have been going on a leftover bowl from the neighbors yesturday all day today, i have been trying to dust it out and finish it so we can start with a fresh one later tonight, but i keep getting lit from it a few times and still havent finished it yet, i plan to finish it now....

[Don Don]

Man the other day i made the sweetest light bulb vaperorizer at home:D. Theres no need to go out and buy one of those fancy vapes!:thumbsup: I some how managed to get the metal twisty part off of the glass bulb with out breaking the glass.:cool: Then i took the lid off of a really small jar of jam,and drilled two holes in it,one for the pen/mouthpeace the other for air intake/getting the weed inside the lightbulb.Next i put the gutted pen through the top,and glued it to the light bulb.just add weed and flame and TA-DA!Home made vapoizer!:D It can even fit in my pocket!:D :D :D (not recomended though,might break:( )

[chaywoo]

nice idea if one is broke, so how about some more details? i cant seem to picture this thing, is the jar lid the same size or larger than the bulb opening? do u drop the bud in the bottom and then lid on top? of course i am sure the bulb needs to be thoroughly washed, but is a clear better than white?

[nutranater]

If you go to the site Vaporinfo.com you will find a video showing how to make this getto vape. It also shows a time or 2 the bulbs break or don't come apart right. Pretty funny stuff. Its under the message boards section. I think it is a sticky post. Has other videos of interest also. :dance:

[chaywoo]

that site is clealy biased in there vaporizer research, not accurate with high end vaporizers

[Eshelmen]

how much do you need in a vapo to actually get baked

will a gram work?

[chaywoo]

a gram will probably go for at least 4 or 6 sessions if its just u, otherwise, when there is company, u can still easily still get 3 full scale vaping sessions, and when i say sessions, i mean fully lit... i get so loaded on the vaporizer that i actually feel cross eyed and like my head is floating forward, and its not the vomit float, its the lets cruz to the moon float

[nutranater]

Hey chey, the site I recomended it is not the research that I was referring too. The forums there have actual people who have and are currently using the vaporizers. Yes most sites are bias. The research is not the appeal to me. It is the forums and exchange of information in them,:dance: that I found so valueable. Go to the sites and check out the forums. I found enough good information to read for a couple of days.

[SaH]

If you have a OCBC card you can walk out the door there with one for under $500 I got an extra box of bags and extra screen and such for it. I sure like it but on settings higher than 7 I get a really dry throat and hack worse than smoking a joint. Works really nice with hash...here are pictures of it in action.

[SaH]

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