The Truth About Adderal

[RastaKaze]

Ok, so I know at least half of you people are either on, know someone on Adderal. It is the best new government drug to hit the market, and they're making a fortune selling it. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but was it not Hitlers idea to employ amphetamines to his tropps to increase awareness and maintain accuracy in battle? So... if you flip flop the eras... is Adderal really any different? The basic racemic amphetamine consists of levo- and dextro-amphetamine. l-amphetamine is not considered as "fun" as d-amphetamine. 10 mg Adderall contains:

Dextro-amphetamine Saccharate- 2.5 mg;
Dextro-amphetamine Sulfate(USP)- 2.5 mg;
Racemic-amphetamine Aspartate- 2.5 mg;
Racemic-amphetamine Sulfate- 2.5 mg.

That's a total of 6.3 mg of the straight base amphetamine (excluding the salt weights). Dexedrine contains pure dextro-amphetamine and is considered more recreational by many. Makes you think, huh? Why is more of half this parm made up of straight speed? To get idiot parents and kids who are desperate enough for a better report card HOOKED. I cannot stress how evil I think this shit is. Now, enough with all the facts, let me tell you a personal story:

My friend, who we will call M, has recently ceased taking his Adderal, BEHIND his parents back. Several weeks ago, he rings my phone at 1 in the morning telling me he's scared for his fucking life. I can hardly make sense of the conversation, and he hangs up in what I assumed to be a psychotic episode from the amphetamines. He had been ordered to take one 30mg pill every day, before school, and had been doing so for several months. Anyway... time passes and his mom calls to tell me everything was ok, he was just having a mild reaction from the Adderal. The next day goes as usualy, M comes over when he gets out of school to blaze an L usually and today was no different. Except for the frightening ass story he had to tell. He told me he was blacking out when he tried to call me and I think the gash on the left side of his head was evident of a fall. He told me he had the absolute scariest hallucination ever, the blackness shifted to an old battlefeild with bloodied bodies and aircraft dropping bombs from over-head. And the worst part, he says, is that It all seemed terribly real, and that he was able to process his thoughts and actions in the "trip" as though he were actually there. This lasted for what he said seemed like 8 hours.

Now, more facts. I am going to type a pages worth until you all realize how evil this shit really is!!!

Health risks and problems associated with amphetamine use:

Cardiovascular Stress: Increased heart rate and blood pressure. Tachycardia (fast heart) and palpitations are common at high doses.
Frequency: very common. Certainty: clear causation.

Heart Attack & Hypertensive Crisis: With higher doses and for vulnerable individuals, Cardiovascular Stress can precipitate severe hypertensive crises and Heart Attacks. Frequency: uncommon. Certainty: clear causation.

Stroke: Increases risk of stroke as dose increases. Frequency: unknown. Certainty: medium.

Poor Sleep Quality: Mild sleep disruptions are very common and include difficulty falling asleep and poor sleep quality. Frequency: typical. Certainty: clear causation.

Poor Diet: Reduced appetite and reduced enjoyment of eating can lead to poor diet which, over time, can lead to poor general health, oral health and skin tone, and increased physical and mental stress. Frequency: common with chronic use. Certainty: clear causation.

Stress & Oxidative Damage: Methamphetamine causes stress to the body and mind and causes an increase in oxidative stress in blood and tissues. At very high doses and frequencies of use, organ damage and premature aging may occur. Frequency: common. Certainty: some evidence.

Neurotoxicity (Methamphetamine): At high doses, methamphetamine causes damage to dopamine and serotonin neurons in the brain [Seiden 1976, Thompson 2004]. Long term use may lead to noticeable neurological and behavioral problems. This effect is well documented with methamphetamine in mice and now largely confirmed in humans; behavioral/clinical effects of this damage is not well documented in humans [Hanson 2004].

Death: Usually resuling from cardiac arrest, stroke, or hyperthermia. Acute renal failure associated with rhabdomyolysis, acidosis, and ischemic renal failure also is associated with methamphetamine fatalities. Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation also reported. Frequency: rare. Certainty: clear causation.

I hope this thread was enough to turn a parent or kid away from the Idea of taking Adderal. It is evil shit, I know this from experience, trust me and the facts you just read with your own two eyes. It has been said.

[justinsane]

i aint gonna take adderall, too many of my friends do it and just sit in the corner clutching their hearts and shit..

pointless

[Whos Carl]

That shit sounds JUST INSANE.

PUN INTENDED.

[RastaKaze]

Sorry, the neuro toxicity is only with methamphetamine. But... regardless, I think the rest of the post speaks for itself.

[T M]

Dumbing down the mass.

I had a friends/little Bro. when I was young that took Ritlin. So we all was just speedin away.

But I guess we had to crash.
Valium would have helped that bash.

Any way. I know Meth users that look 20 years older than they are. I just tried a over the counter "speed" called Red Line. It has Anhydris caffine, a very distilled caffine extract. Feels like teen spirit.

[RastaKaze]

I beleive speed, or anything for that matter is ok in moderation. Four times a year I do speed. For fun. But it's not something kids should be prescribed to take every day. Sometimes I wonder what this country is coming to..

[Whos Carl]

I love it when people say i do mushrooms or speed 4 times a year. I can just imagine you getting a new calender and instead of putting peoples birthdays on it you just put when your gonna do drugs lol.

Maybe I am weird.

[roosterboy]

Dumbing down the mass.

I had a friends/little Bro. when I was young that took Ritlin. So we all was just speedin away.

But I guess we had to crash.
Valium would have helped that bash.

Any way. I know Meth users that look 20 years older than they are. I just tried a over the counter "speed" called Red Line. It has Anhydris caffine, a very distilled caffine extract. Feels like teen spirit.
Did you take the pills or the liquid, and also how much?

[RastaKaze]

I love it when people say i do mushrooms or speed 4 times a year. I can just imagine you getting a new calender and instead of putting peoples birthdays on it you just put when your gonna do drugs lol.

Maybe I am weird.

No, it just takes some explaining. I dont know about other people who have said things like that, especially when speaking of shrooms cuz hey I say do those whenever you can get your hands on them, but with harder drugs you absolutely MUST watch yourself, set, and except a limit. If you can remain purely fascinated by the drug and not find yourself wanting it, your ok

[spacelamb]

Feds Consider Warnings on ADHD Drugs By ANDREW BRIDGES, Associated Press Writer
Thu Feb 9, 12:36 PM ET



A federal health official said Thursday that there was a strong possibility that popular drugs like Ritalin used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder may be linked to the deaths of 25 people.

"There's smoke. Does that represent a fire?" asked Dr. David Graham of the Food and Drug Administration.

To find out, an FDA advisory committee considered how best to study whether the popular drugs increased the risk of death and serious injury.

"We wouldn't be going through this exercise if we didn't think there was a real possibility of increased risk," Graham told reporters.

Further studies would examine the incidence of sudden death and serious health problems, including stroke and heart attack, among some of the millions of children and adults treated each year with the drugs. That could lead to new warning labels.

The deaths occurred between 1999 and 2003, according to an FDA report. Nineteen of them involved children. The report also detailed 54 cases of serious cardiovascular problems, including heart attack, stroke, hypertension, palpitations and arrhythmia, in adults and children being treated with ADHD drugs. Some of these ADHD drug-treated patients had pre-existing heart conditions or hypertension.

The drugs include amphetamines, such as Adderall, and methylphenidates, sold as Ritalin, Concerta, Methylin and Metadate.

The FDA said it has tallied an additional 26 deaths between 1969 and 2003 in ADHD patients involving death by suicide, intentional overdose, drowning, heat stroke and from underlying disease.

The FDA's Drug Safety and Risk Management advisory committee is reviewing different ways to study whether the deaths are linked to use of the drugs. The few studies that have looked at longer-term use of ADHD drugs provide little information on those risks, the FDA said.

Analysis of the reports of death and injury suggests a possible link between the drugs and cardiovascular problems, the FDA's Dr. Kate Gelperin told the panel. But the link is not conclusive, nor is it clear whether there is an increased incidence of death or serious injury among people treated with the drugs, she added.

That, Gelperin said, "is really a question we'd like to have answered."

An FDA review found fewer than one case of death or serious injury per 1 million ADHD drug prescriptions filled, with one exception: 1.79 cases per million of nonfatal cardiovascular or cerebrovascular problems in adults treated with amphetamines.
Currently, about two million children and one million adults are prescribed ADHD drugs each month, the FDA's Dr. Andrew Mosholder said. Adult use alone grew 90 percent between March 2002 and June 2005, he said.

Sales of ADHD drugs increased to $3.1 billion in 2004, from $759 million in 2000, according to IMS Health, a pharmaceutical information and consulting firm.

That stepped up use could spell increased risk.

"Because adults have a higher risk of heart disease and stroke to begin with, any increase in risk caused by these drugs could affect a large number of people," Graham said.

The FDA's Canadian equivalent, Health Canada, briefly pulled the ADHD drug Adderall XR from the market last year. A Canadian panel eventually concluded there was inadequate evidence of increased harm from the drug. The FDA reached a similar conclusion at the time.

Adderall is made by Shire Pharmaceuticals and Ritalin is made by Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corp. Various other companies make generic versions of Ritalin as well.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, criticized the FDA's pace in studying the issue earlier this week.

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[bedake]

i love adderal, i dont take it everyday, just when i party, i guess im in the minority when i say that i always have a good experience on it, dont have any bad side affects, i wouldent do it every day but i love the drug

[Brittoker]

I love it when people say i do mushrooms or speed 4 times a year. I can just imagine you getting a new calender and instead of putting peoples birthdays on it you just put when your gonna do drugs lol.

Maybe I am weird.

Lol :thumbsup:

[RastaKaze]

i love adderal, i dont take it everyday, just when i party, i guess im in the minority when i say that i always have a good experience on it, dont have any bad side affects, i wouldent do it every day but i love the drug

I feel the same about it... but don't try and tell me it dosent have bad side effects man. Isn't not being hungry and the thought of food making you wanna vomit a bad side effect? What about the impotence? And the shitload of information above? Moderation is the key

[BizzleLuvin]

i take adderall for dyscalculia and ADD. not to get me by in daily life, just to help me in school. i take it for that reason only. i used to take it every day, but now that i am aware, i take it only when i need it, so as not to become dependednt on a chemical

[Aristotle]

Fuck you. Taking adderall and concerta is my anti-speed.

[BizzleLuvin]

Fuck you. Taking adderall and concerta is my anti-speed.

hey aristotle, whats your theory on tragedy (bad joke)

[bedake]

I feel the same about it... but don't try and tell me it dosent have bad side effects man. Isn't not being hungry and the thought of food making you wanna vomit a bad side effect? What about the impotence? And the shitload of information above? Moderation is the key



im not a big eater anyways, like i dunno like i said in another thread my mom things im anorexic, i just say im never hungry as for the impotence, i must have skipped over it on that post is it permanent? or are you refering to the part where you cant get it up for awhile, if so i dont care i absolutley hate sex on drugs plus sex is the last thing on my mind while fucked up, i wanna be having fun with my buddies not doin it with some girl in the bath room while the party goes on without me

but yea i do need to eat more and if the impotence is permanent then i should prolly cut back on it, but i only do it like once a month so no real harm there

[RastaKaze]

Fuck you. Taking adderall and concerta is my anti-speed.

You are aware of how unbeleivably un-intelligent you make yourself look when you say things like that, right?

[RastaKaze]

but i only do it like once a month so no real harm there

Exactly. You are aware of what is it as a substance and you know it's not the kinda thing you should be doing other day. Unlike some people :stoned: COUGH*Aristotle*COUGH

[bedake]

i take adderall for dyscalculia and ADD. not to get me by in daily life, just to help me in school. i take it for that reason only. i used to take it every day, but now that i am aware, i take it only when i need it, so as not to become dependednt on a chemical



what is dyscalculia? at first i thought it was a typo for dyslexia.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Hey rasta,

Good post. I agree. This and alot of other brainwashing by the pharmaceutical industry.

Depression is easily cured with:

Ascorbic acid
amino acids
and omega 3 oil

Typically all of these are missing or a very low in the modern day processed diet and that is why we have these problems in the first place.

We have the food industry on one end and the pharmacuetical industry on the other and ingenious marketeers from the pharmacuetical industry brainwashing the public into thinking that millions and millions of kids have chemical imbalances.

[BizzleLuvin]

what is dyscalculia? at first i thought it was a typo for dyslexia.

its like the dyslexia of math. i have trouble/problems/malfunctions with depth perception, perception of time and distance, math, any arithmatic, patterns, numbers and formulas, money, time lapse, spatial awareness, balance and anything that has to do with the right side of the brain. basically if i werent an above average english and spanish student, i would be in a special needs curriculum. its an ongoing strugle, few people know about it. i am the classic dyscalculate-i fit the diagnosis to a T.

[RastaKaze]

Hey rasta,

Good post. I agree. This and alot of other brainwashing by the pharmaceutical industry.

Depression is easily cured with:

Ascorbic acid
amino acids
and omega 3 oil

Typically all of these are missing or a very low in the modern day processed diet and that is why we have these problems in the first place.

We have the food industry on one end and the pharmacuetical industry on the other and ingenious marketeers from the pharmacuetical industry brainwashing the public into thinking that millions and millions of kids have chemical imbalances.

I salute you :thumbsup:

[bedake]

its like the dyslexia of math. i have trouble/problems/malfunctions with depth perception, perception of time and distance, math, any arithmatic, patterns, numbers and formulas, money, time lapse, spatial awareness, balance and anything that has to do with the right side of the brain. basically if i werent an above average english and spanish student, i would be in a special needs curriculum. its an ongoing strugle, few people know about it. i am the classic dyscalculate-i fit the diagnosis to a T.


that just blew my mind, i guess its true when you say most people dont know it exists, ive never even heard the word mentioned before, i wonder how many people go through life undiagnosed

[Tmar.aLL.DaYmar]

very informative post rastakaze, thanks. ill see what my doctor has to say about this.

but im not going to stop until at least the summer. im basically using aderol purely as a diet pill. 2 per day and a small salad at each meal and i loose 2+ pounds a day. i mean im getting all the nutrients i need, and im making sure i eat 3 meals, but since i dont care what i eat on it then i can just eat bland healthy shit.

also, what information do you have on addiction and studdering? because i swear to god it causes studdering. anyway, ill research it myself tommorrow if no one knows about it.

[Goodman3eb]

I believe that taking any drug that makes you speed up like that on a regular basis can't be good for you.

That said, 20mg of Adderall was some of the most fun I've ever had.

[Tmar.aLL.DaYmar]

found it. aderol fucks with your motor and linguistic skills(studdering).

[bedake]

found it. aderol fucks with your motor and linguistic skills(studdering).


ive never seen anyone studder due to adderol, i twitch a little bit, muscle spasms. Not even with people that take it daily have i seen studdering


and i would think if it fucked with your motor skills it wouldent be prescribed to people, cause ya know usually its bad to drive with impaired motor skills.

[WhosGotTheHerb]

Aderol is the legal cocaine... I think it's really stupid and irresponsible to take it for recreational use. I've used it before, but ONLY for school-related all-nighters. I have to admit it works amazingly well for papers and study sessions.

I have a freak out story as well.. one night I had a two papers and a presentation due the next day so I popped a 20mg of aderol but it wasn't working as well as I had hoped (probably b/c I took one the night before) so I popped another one. It definitely kicked in this time.. it was working TOO well, meaning I wasn't getting very far on my paper because each time I would re-read something I just wrote, I would think it wasn't good enough and edit and re-edit it... so about 12 or so hours after I took the pills, I was finishing up the paper/presentation since I had to give it at 1pm.. finished about 10 minutes after the class started (aderol kept making me edit and re-edit.. took forever) and so I gave a completely unprepared presentation on the paper I JUST finished writing.. needless to say it sucked and my royal-bitch of a teacher didn't make things better... so after class feeling shitty about the bad presentation, all fucked up after not sleeping for days in a row, and still on all that aderol, I had a panic/anxiety attack and couldn't stop sobbing and started seeing spots and shit. It was scarier than any trip I've been on. Be careful with this shit people! Besides the occasional all-nighter, leave this shit with the kids who really do have ADD.

[RastaKaze]

Aderol is the legal cocaine... I think it's really stupid and irresponsible to take it for recreational use. I've used it before, but ONLY for school-related all-nighters. I have to admit it works amazingly well for papers and study sessions.

I have a freak out story as well.. one night I had a two papers and a presentation due the next day so I popped a 20mg of aderol but it wasn't working as well as I had hoped (probably b/c I took one the night before) so I popped another one. It definitely kicked in this time.. it was working TOO well, meaning I wasn't getting very far on my paper because each time I would re-read something I just wrote, I would think it wasn't good enough and edit and re-edit it... so about 12 or so hours after I took the pills, I was finishing up the paper/presentation since I had to give it at 1pm.. finished about 10 minutes after the class started (aderol kept making me edit and re-edit.. took forever) and so I gave a completely unprepared presentation on the paper I JUST finished writing.. needless to say it sucked and my royal-bitch of a teacher didn't make things better... so after class feeling shitty about the bad presentation, all fucked up after not sleeping for days in a row, and still on all that aderol, I had a panic/anxiety attack and couldn't stop sobbing and started seeing spots and shit. It was scarier than any trip I've been on. Be careful with this shit people! Besides the occasional all-nighter, leave this shit with the kids who really do have ADD.

Thank you for your contribution :( Sounds scary I am sorry to hear you had the chance to experience one of the many horrid effects of adderal on the human brain...

[moeburn]

I don't think hitler was as bad as our pharmaceutical/psychological system.

[Guinevere]

Dude, I'm on 120 Mg. Adderall daily.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm diagnosed with SEVERE adult ADHD but the state of mind that Adderall induces fucken rocks!!!!!!
Let me drop dead, man.........at least I was high on Adderall!!!!

[Aristotle]

You are aware of how unbeleivably un-intelligent you make yourself look when you say things like that, right?
Dude...

Taking Adderal is a whole lot safer than buying actual 'speed' sold on the streets, not only because real 'speed' is a hell of a lot more detrimental to your health, it's usually cut with impure chemicals. No matter how many similarities speed has to Adderal, Adderal will always be considered safer, so even you copying and pasting some information found on Ritalin's website trying to denounce Adderal is extremely stupid.

And besides, those who take Adderal in proportion to control ADD, it helps them considerably. Only those who abuse Adderal should worry about the genetic makeup of the drug being similar to pure amphetamine salts found in speed, and if they can't handle their own drugs, they deserve to face the consequences.

I will street fight you. And you will lose.

[bedake]

W007 had some adderal last night, love it once again, remember kids be safe and adderal is fine just dont do it everyday, i was snortin lines throughout the night, it was beautiful

[BongSmokityDuo]

impotence, no thanks

[RastaKaze]

I will street fight you. And you will lose.

LMAO what a fucking 2 bit loser grow a brain man ADDERAL is AMPHETAMINE amphetamine is SPEED retard, you're probably just so addicted that you lie to yourself to make you feel better about taking it. Fucking crackhead motherfucker :( Go pop an adderal and "street fight" someone :rolleyes:

[Aristotle]

LMAO what a fucking 2 bit loser grow a brain man ADDERAL is AMPHETAMINE amphetamine is SPEED retard, you're probably just so addicted that you lie to yourself to make you feel better about taking it. Fucking crackhead motherfucker :( Go pop an adderal and "street fight" someone :rolleyes:
I know, and I stated that in my previous post. But an FDA and government regulated drug such as Adderal is a lot more safer than street speed which is cooked up in a black guy's basement in South Central Chicago, cut with a variety of other things so he can conserve more amphetamine and put them into more pills, and thusly make more money.

This argument is useless anyways. Who gives a shit that Adderal has amphetamines in it? I don't. I just started this argument for the sole intention to try and street fight you. But of course you back down and resort to calling me names.

Coward.

[RastaKaze]

Upper WEst Side nigga me n my click will roll deep on ur ass come to NY I DARE u mark :D :thumbsup:

[SonEtLumiere]

im prescribed 10mg adderall and the only bad side effects ive had are: loss of appetite which really isnt bad because i can still eat i just dont feel like i NEED to eat but i still want to, and slight withdrawal when i stopped taking it for a week to sell to a kid i know but that wasnt bad, ive been on meth and coke binges and there is a larrrrrrrrrge area separating adderall from street stimulants, though adderall is a complex of amphetamines its not nearly as bad, plus without adderall i have extreeeemly bad problems with staying focused with anything i do, even with adderall im still not all that good, and i got an ekg after i started on adderall and after two weeks of use my heart rate wasnt any higher then what it was before nor was my blood pressure or any vital signs, moderation is the key

[Xylene]

Hey rasta,

Good post. I agree. This and alot of other brainwashing by the pharmaceutical industry.

Depression is easily cured with:

Ascorbic acid
amino acids
and omega 3 oil

Typically all of these are missing or a very low in the modern day processed diet and that is why we have these problems in the first place.

We have the food industry on one end and the pharmacuetical industry on the other and ingenious marketeers from the pharmacuetical industry brainwashing the public into thinking that millions and millions of kids have chemical imbalances.

Could you give me some sources for these ingrediants? I'd really like to check them out.

[Jeff Spicoli]

Depression is easily cured with:

Ascorbic acid
amino acids
and omega 3 oil
uh.... no?

[Aristotle]

Upper WEst Side nigga me n my click will roll deep on ur ass come to NY I DARE u mark :D :thumbsup:
...

You made me come to this thread for that stupid comment?

Weapons are now allowed in our street fight. No guns... just chains, knives and assorted kitchen tools.

[RastaKaze]

Aight, agreed. When can you meet me?

[moeburn]

For those of you who think you "need" adderall;

I highly reccomend you take a week off in the forest dropping acid every day to realise that the only true reason you should work hard is for the woman that loves you, and your future children for whom you don't want to dishonor.

[yoda]

is a there a link to the health effects of adderall?

[T M]

All things are permissible; but not all things are benificial.

[BabyFacedAbortion]

Fuck addys. I got busted in 8th grade for selling that shit. Lol. 3 bucks a pop :)

[Irv]

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202031.html Precautions and Side Effects portion

[CocaCola]

Fuck addys. I got busted in 8th grade for selling that shit. Lol. 3 bucks a pop :)
Yes, those drugs sold themselves. >.>