How Deep Can You Go . . .

[Mr Greenthumb]

Deep . . . within yourself. Within your mind. Is it possible to think too much? Can you manipulate yourself into truely beliving something you previously did not? Are you concious of your own subconcious thoughts? Can you track your/other's thought patterns? Can you figure other people out? Have you explored your mind enough to significantly change yourself and your life? Is any of it possible?
There is a lot going on your head that you don't know about. Figuring out your own subconcious wants an desires while probing concious wants and desires you have. There is a pattern, a thought pattern to everybody and if you explore yourself deeply enough you'll be able to tell what certain people are thinking some of the time.
To explore the mind mostly means asking a lot of questions that seem answerless. And while you search for these answers you will find out more and more about yourself.
Thinking is the key. Thinking a lot about the way the world works, why people are the way they are, whats going to happen next, why do you exist if at all you truely exist.

Anyone know what i'm talkin about? I would like to hear some opinions on self discovery and deep thinking. Whatever you have to say be it friendly or hostile.

Deep thinking . . . i wonder if you could drive yourself insane if you go too deep?

[PeopleCallMeJesus]

i know what you're talking about. i'm in deep thought most of the day.

have you ever wondered what it would be like to find out that you're schizophrenic and that all the answers that you came up with for all of those questions turned out to be fake and wrong. that would be hell to know that you are wrong but still come to those same conclusions and believe in them.

makes you damn glad you're not schizo

.....just to share some of the everyday madness of my mind....

[CocaCola]

You can go deep, believe me. Deeper then any depth.

[PureEvil760]

just dont think like a human (in words) ever...train yourself to do this and u can go deeper.

[Polymirize]

Yeah. What happens when you think a thought, and then realise that you are not that thought, but merely observing the thought from a deeper position. Move deeper beyond thought...

Its dangerous ground, in my opinion. Most of us aren't strong enough to be completely open, even with ourselves. I think it can easily lead to insanity or at the least immense depression.

Who among us can handle the responsibility of complete freedom?

[kongo]

If you go that far and come back youve cracked it!No jus kiddin.I go into deep thought a lot but no more than I have when I was younger.Stressed about everthing but finding solice in the thought of whats stressing me eg: the sun burning out in millions of years,what damage I'm doing to my body shit like that.I tend not to read newspapers watch tv when I start lol.Then thats whole new scale specially if I'm high!But as you pointed out thats what we do, thats what makes us what we are.

Hope theres a god lol!

[IntrepidS]

I dig deeper each and every day.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

there is a point within vyourself that, provided you can dig past, and still come bac, will destroy your self image. it will completely change your ego. i cant say it will reduce or eliminate it, but your ego will become aware, so to speak. after this point, you might, like myself, try to eliminate your ego, or mold it into something less demanding and less vulnerable.

the mind holds many keys to many doors of reality, and dispite what you might think, you do not need outside influences to learn, you do not need experiance to know, although it helps greatly, even if you already KNOW, the experiance will still garner much wisdom. now we face a problem; you know, or at least think you do, about a certian situation, one you've never experianced yourself, and you try to avoid it, without experiancing it. not that this is all bad, but without the experiance, you will forever lack the wisdom that goes hand in hand, the experiance itself is much different than knowing the experiance and what can or does come of it.

of course, some experiances are prefered to be avoided, with or without the wisdom or knowledge, some things are just flat out best for an individual to avoid, or at least untill their mindset is prepared to handle it, or tolerate it.

[mrdevious]

Speaking from a buddhist perspective, there are means by which you can develope the mind, your understanding of reality, and your understanding of "self" quite significantly, depending how far you're willing to go and if you know how to go about it.

in buddhist meditation, the goal is to lose sense of the "self", and the ego. Buddha taught that our minds and perspective on reality is clouded by delusion and to some degree, hallucination. this is because rather than being aware of your own consciousness and awareness, people live under the delusion that their "self" is the chemical drives within us, the instinctive reactions that push us, the mental conditioning we are put through from birth, and the primite egotystical concept we are all ingrained with that what we can immediately percieve (that being your own body and mind), is all that makes up reality.

the sense of "self" is derived from immediate sensory perception. what is outside us, and what is our physical form, are perceived quite differently. Because the world outside our physical selves is not as intimately percievable as the physical body and thoughts within, our minds make sense of this indiscrepency in understanding by separating the world from our physical selves with "Me" and "not me". This eventually leads to concepts such as "pride", sometimes very strongly within some people. pride in itself is the delusion that the worth and importance of ones own actions and abilities are of more importance than anything else, because the actions and abilities contrived from within our physical being are the most intimately percievable, and therfor the only true reality and importance, or so the undeveloped mind would believe. Scientists in the field of neurological study's have actaully found that people who are not selfish and are very generous have a more developed part of the brain that can grasp concepts outside their own views, and see other peoples point of view.

Then there are the drives within us all. in order for the species to innitially survive, we developed instincts. instincts to belong to a societal group, to gain wealth, power, dominance, security, all necessary prerequisites to survival. This is why we have craving, craving brings about attainment, attainment ensures survival. This is what buddhism speaks of when they talk about "the extinction of self". it doesn't mean you blink out of existence, it means the extinction of conditioning, whether it be instinctive or societal. Enlightenment is attained when chemical drives no longer control us, when instinct does not determine our actions, when cravings do not push our response. Enlightenment is the realization of pure conscious awareness, complete liberation from the illusion that our cravings and drives-that-push make up who we really are.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

by that deffenition, i am one elnightened motherfucker lol


i do, however, chose not to forsake my instincts or cravings, at least for the time being.

eventually, i'll "reduce" myself to the bare minimums, and spend more time meditating than much anything else. but the circumstances are not properly set to allow this lifestyle.


the bare minimum is cannabis, oxygen, and water. that's all i need, that's all i wish to have. that is my persuit of happyness, shame it's illegal.

[Ganj]

i know what you're talking about. i'm in deep thought most of the day.

have you ever wondered what it would be like to find out that you're schizophrenic and that all the answers that you came up with for all of those questions turned out to be fake and wrong. that would be hell to know that you are wrong but still come to those same conclusions and believe in them.

makes you damn glad you're not schizo

.....just to share some of the everyday madness of my mind....

or are we? everyone's a little crazy. have you ever thought about our society. we were brought up to believe all of this his-story and we used all of it to form the society we live in today. history is being written today.

[smoke ranger]

Ive learned to read a personality like a book, I guess what youre speaking of woul be what I consider street smarts...things you can do on a hunch, that most people take hours to think about...cause you've been deep inside yur mind and studied these things before now, whatever, I hate babbling about this shit, lol

[PureEvil760]

What happens when you think a thought, and then realise that you are not that thought, but merely observing the thought from a deeper position.

Thats all that needed to be said in this thread.

[Polymirize]

word... except, I also want to say this:

Holy shit SSW, you cling to your ego like a drowning man to a life raft. Let go of your desire for enlightenment already...

That is all.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

im good at implying everything i do not truly mean... i have a mental flaw or some shit... i cant communicate my thoughts...


i was just replying to MrDevious' post. all truth. truth online = ego?

if i were to have no ego, i would not exist online, for that is all that CAN exist, is faccets of ego, words from your 'self'.

offline, i am almost a whole different person. online i just pour out my thoughts.

[PureEvil760]

posting on forums is a form a feeding your ego..sometimes it does it to me but i try to catch it.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

yeah i know what you're saying, i used to be REAL bad about it, but i caught myself, and cleaned up my act, i want to get away from the internet really, i want to live off the land a billion miles away from civilization and not have to worry about anything anymore... or die and never come back to this god forsaken rock.

[hubblebubble]

you can go so deep you send yourself mad

[PureEvil760]

SSW ur still REAL bad about it..I am too dont worry about it though.

[Polymirize]

^^ word. I've got a hell of an ego myself. But at least I'm aware of it (or at least partially aware of it). I think trying to deny the ego is fundamentally unhealthy. But that doesn't mean it should control you either.

[S8ted]

Deep . . . within yourself. Within your mind. Is it possible to think too much? Can you manipulate yourself into truely beliving something you previously did not? Are you concious of your own subconcious thoughts? Can you track your/other's thought patterns? Can you figure other people out? Have you explored your mind enough to significantly change yourself and your life? Is any of it possible?
There is a lot going on your head that you don't know about. Figuring out your own subconcious wants an desires while probing concious wants and desires you have. There is a pattern, a thought pattern to everybody and if you explore yourself deeply enough you'll be able to tell what certain people are thinking some of the time.
To explore the mind mostly means asking a lot of questions that seem answerless. And while you search for these answers you will find out more and more about yourself.
Thinking is the key. Thinking a lot about the way the world works, why people are the way they are, whats going to happen next, why do you exist if at all you truely exist.

Anyone know what i'm talkin about? I would like to hear some opinions on self discovery and deep thinking. Whatever you have to say be it friendly or hostile.

Deep thinking . . . i wonder if you could drive yourself insane if you go too deep?

Ooh yeah! insanity is always possible. it's mentioned that, if so, all geniuses have a certain percentage of insanity/eccentricity.

[WalkaWalka]

I have problems with this i have never yet achieved meditation.
I find that i restrain myself alot. Sometimes I just let go and just do things at the time i don't know why but they always become clear later. Is it bad if you freak yourself out sometimes?